The Mighty Thor Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: It’s your pompous view that Scottish people are somewhat more superior in values etc , that leads me to believe it’s racist . It’s ascribing certain attributes to English Where did I say that in my post plz? Stop making stuff up. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ray Gin Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, pablo said: I'm not. I don't think we'd be like either. I think we'd be like the rest of the UK, only poorer and with even more Scottish flags on things. I just laugh at how it's always Denmark or New Zealand we'd be like rather than Portugal or Botswana. Aye it's hilarious how we get compared with one of our closest neighbours with a similar climate and the same population, rather than a random country in Africa that's about 80% desert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, pablo said: The common vales of fairness, respecting the rule of law and standing up to bullies or intolerance is found across Britain. I personally think that's all a bit Enid Blyton, warm beer, the thwack of leather on willow, endless summers and all that shite. I hope with all my heart you are right though, because right now the country is going to the dogs with a serial liar in charge hurtling headlong towards soft fascism all the while being supported by a very large majority in Westminster who returned by the people of the England predominately. We'll find out at the next election but I personally would not even be remotely surprised if they all get returned again, which in itself is a depressing thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Where did I say that in my post plz? Stop making stuff up. Thanks in advance. What's the difference between Scottish people and English people ? I don't see much tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Lord Montpelier said: What's the difference between Scottish people and English people ? I don't see much tbh. Never mind that, what about Sweden?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Well that's a relevant , modern , argument for independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: What's the difference between Scottish people and English people ? I don't see much tbh. We're from different countries mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Lord Montpelier said: Well that's a relevant , modern , argument for independence. They must be kicking themselves eh… wasn’t meant to be serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Well that's a relevant , modern , argument for independence. It's not that. I could equally say 2m are estimated to have died after 1947 India / Pakistan independence in the upheaval that followed But I won't as neither modern or relevant. Get with the century Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: We're from different countries mate. Is that it ?. Got me convinced on your argument then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, Smithee said: Never mind that, what about Sweden?? Great place in my view. Beer a bit expensive though and can be nippy in winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: It's not that. I could equally say 2m are estimated to have died after 1947 India / Pakistan independence in the upheaval that followed But I won't as neither modern or relevant. Get with the century Jack. Jeez…man period week is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, jack D and coke said: Jeez…man period week is it? I'll take that as you putting your hand up you lost that one Jack. Try posting more relevant stuff going forward and not just robbing some halfwits twitter remarks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Is that it ?. Got me convinced on your argument then. We're from 2 different countries. Whilst you may think that we're all the same, we're not. There a whole host of subtle differences between us and the English/Welsh/Irish to make a huge difference to how we think, how we act, our morals etc. Our education is different - Similar subjects, different course material etc Our religion is different - Calvinism, Presbyterianism etc Our legal system is different - That has a huge impact on how we live our lives. Our values and outlook to life are different - Scots generally tend to be a bit more self effacing, conservative than other parts of the UK. Probably more pessimistic too. There's also huge variation in England too. I'm married to a Geordie and she's like a different species to my friends and colleagues in London etc. For the avoidance of doubt for the uni-troll none of that is racist. Not a single word of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: I'll take that as you putting your hand up you lost that one Jack. Try posting more relevant stuff going forward and not just robbing some halfwits twitter remarks aye eh…ok mate👍🏼 I’m assuming you know who Greg Hemphill is too? Edited July 4, 2022 by jack D and coke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, The Mighty Thor said: We're from 2 different countries. Whilst you may think that we're all the same, we're not. There a whole host of subtle differences between us and the English/Welsh/Irish to make a huge difference to how we think, how we act, our morals etc. Our education is different - Similar subjects, different course material etc Our religion is different - Calvinism, Presbyterianism etc Our legal system is different - That has a huge impact on how we live our lives. Our values and outlook to life are different - Scots generally tend to be a bit more self effacing, conservative than other parts of the UK. Probably more pessimistic too. There's also huge variation in England too. I'm married to a Geordie and she's like a different species to my friends and colleagues in London etc. For the avoidance of doubt for the uni-troll none of that is racist. Not a single word of it. I'm Scottish, grew up in England, and now live north of the border working with good people across the UK. There are differences. But not enough to split a country on. In fact the overwhelming similarities are a reason to keep it together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: aye eh…ok mate👍🏼 I’m assuming you know who Greg Hemphill is too? Never heard of him. Is he you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: We're from different countries mate. See, I don't think we are really. And before anyone starts, I'm not denying Scotland is a country/nation whatever. But the UK is also our country, there's 400k from other parts of the UK living here in Scotland, there's 800k Scots in England. There's been centuries of Britons moving and settling over the country. There's companies based here whose business is located predominantly in the South. There's generation's of marriage between, Scots, English Welsh and Irish. There's just so many interdependences between us. I understand that for any form to flourish there has to be and them and us narrative. But for me, we're by and large the same people. The only thing that differentiates us is our accents. Edited July 4, 2022 by pablo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: I'm Scottish, grew up in England, and now live north of the border working with good people across the UK. There are differences. But not enough to split a country on. In fact the overwhelming similarities are a reason to keep it together. What country are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 40 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: What's the difference between Scottish people and English people ? I don't see much tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Never heard of him. Is he you? It’s not me no Never watched Still Game? Chewin the Fat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: What country are you talking about? The one you live in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, Smithee said: Actually . Pretty true from experience. Good one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, jack D and coke said: It’s not me no Never watched Still Game? Chewin the Fat? More of an only fools and horses man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Lord Montpelier said: The one you live in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: I'm Scottish, grew up in England, and now live north of the border working with good people across the UK. There are differences. But not enough to split a country on. In fact the overwhelming similarities are a reason to keep it together. I'm Scottish. Lived and worked in London. Work(ed) with people from all over the UK and lucky enough to have worked with clients in countries all over Europe and the Americas. There are differences. Differences big enough for them to be acknowledged and for governments or those seeking to be in government to realise that a one size fits all solution doesn't work as the UK is not just England. If you want to engage the people of Scotland then you need to realise that our differences are as numerous as our similarities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Lord Montpelier said: More of an only fools and horses man But you are aware of these shows? Well he’s half of that pair. Ford Kiernan being the shorter stouter one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, pablo said: See, I don't think we are really. And before anyone starts, I'm not denying Scotland is a country/nation whatever. But the UK is also our country, there's 400k from other parts of the UK living here in Scotland, there's 800k Scots in England. There's been centuries of Britons moving and settling over the country. There's companies based here whose business is located predominantly in the South. There's generation's of marriage between, Scots, English Welsh and Irish. There's just so many interdependences between us. I understand that for any form to flourish there has to be and them and us narrative. But for me, we're by and large the same people. The only thing that differentiates us is our accents. I'm not denying that there's interdependencies. not at all. I think you're really far off the mark if you think the only thing that differentiates us is our accent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 This more relevant @Lord Montpelier?☺️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, jack D and coke said: But you are aware of these shows? Well he’s half of that pair. Ford Kiernan being the shorter stouter one. Great. Have heard of them . Was Ford a supporter of American independence as well ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, Lord Montpelier said: Great. Have heard of them . Was Ford a supporter of American independence as well ? Right that’s plenty 👋🏼😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, jack D and coke said: This more relevant @Lord Montpelier?☺️ Didn't agree with Brexit, but it happened. No major impact for me though so far. How about you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, Lord Montpelier said: Didn't agree with Brexit, but it happened. No major impact for me though so far. How about you ? Yes. I own a property in Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, jack D and coke said: Yes. I own a property in Spain. So your a champagne socialist then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxy Hearts Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: aye eh…ok mate👍🏼 I’m assuming you know who Greg Hemphill is too? I'd rather listen to Greg Hemphill than some of the dafties on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Lord Montpelier said: So your a champagne socialist then ? How on earth am I champagne socialist? Maybe more Prosecco tbh…😋 I wasn’t given it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, jack D and coke said: How on earth am I champagne socialist? Maybe more Prosecco tbh…😋 I wasn’t given it. Fair play. Im all for property porfolios. Hope its a good earner for you. What's the impact ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said: I'd rather listen to Greg Hemphill than some of the dafties on here! One in particular scraping the bottom of the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: One in particular scraping the bottom of the barrel. That's no way to talk about ri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, Lord Montpelier said: That's no way to talk about ri What’s he done now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Fair play. Im all for property porfolios. Hope its a good earner for you. What's the impact ? It’s not really bought for an earner in all honesty. I rent it to help pay the bills though. Impacts aren’t immediate but as I get older and want to spend more time there then there will be. There’s daft old gits who live there and voted brexit. They’ve had to buy caravans at home to come for 3 months of the year now. Funny but not funny. How stupid can you be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: I'm not denying that there's interdependencies. not at all. I think you're really far off the mark if you think the only thing that differentiates us is our accent. Okay, I'll put it another way. Of course there's regional characteristics and mentalities. But are they neatly bucketed into or Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland? Of course not. Look at Liverpool and their Scouse not English declaration. Cockneys or Londoners in general aren't exactly famous for awareness of anything happening outside the Capital. Look at those minging huns that @jack D and coke posted the other day, they're our fellow Scots. Feel much unity or affinity with weegies in general? When it comes to the integrity of the United Kingdom, it's people and our culture, there's much more that unites than divides us, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, pablo said: Okay, I'll put it another way. Of course there's regional characteristics and mentalities. But are they neatly bucketed into or Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland? Of course not. Look at Liverpool and their Scouse not English declaration. Cockneys or Londoners in general aren't exactly famous for awareness of anything happening outside the Capital. Look at those minging huns that @jack D and coke posted the other day, they're our fellow Scots. Feel much unity or affinity with weegies in general? When it comes to the integrity of the United Kingdom, it's people and our culture, there's much more that unites than divides us, in my opinion. Good points. I feel little affiliation with most of Glasgow. Perhaps others here do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: What’s he done now? Just the usual anti English , Scots pure blood type nonsence . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, Lord Montpelier said: Just the usual anti English , Scots pure blood type nonsence . Could’ve been 105 and his/her shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Could’ve been 105 and his/her shit. Maybe, but there is an edge / darkness with ri's postings that should be called out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: It’s not really bought for an earner in all honesty. I rent it to help pay the bills though. Impacts aren’t immediate but as I get older and want to spend more time there then there will be. There’s daft old gits who live there and voted brexit. They’ve had to buy caravans at home to come for 3 months of the year now. Funny but not funny. How stupid can you be. Fancy voting for brexit whilst living in Spain. Hope the property works for you. Something I aspire to but can only commit once the world is a more stable place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said: We're from 2 different countries. Whilst you may think that we're all the same, we're not. There a whole host of subtle differences between us and the English/Welsh/Irish to make a huge difference to how we think, how we act, our morals etc. Our education is different - Similar subjects, different course material etc Our religion is different - Calvinism, Presbyterianism etc Our legal system is different - That has a huge impact on how we live our lives. Our values and outlook to life are different - Scots generally tend to be a bit more self effacing, conservative than other parts of the UK. Probably more pessimistic too. There's also huge variation in England too. I'm married to a Geordie and she's like a different species to my friends and colleagues in London etc. For the avoidance of doubt for the uni-troll none of that is racist. Not a single word of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Maybe, but there is an edge / darkness with ri's postings that should be called out His postings are vile . It’s more than a darkness it’s hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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