frankblack Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dennis Denuto said: Is this thread now re-running the vaccine or no vaccine argument? It is clear as day that the vaccines have reduced deaths and hospital admissions by 70-80%, we would be in all kinds of trouble right now if it weren't for the vaccine. As it is it would still be better with lower transmission numbers, it's not easy to get that down without restrictions returning - so get the bloody vaccine. As I have tried to get across to the hard of thinking here, it is the knock-on effect of the vaccination numbers easing pressures on hospitals that are allowing us to go to football and gigs again. These will be the first to go if hospitals struggle to cope with the flu season combined with Covid. Its clear that some just don't care, and to those I have no sympathy when you find you can't attend these events you paid for because you chose not to make a tiny little sacrifice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Denuto Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, frankblack said: As I have tried to get across to the hard of thinking here, it is the knock-on effect of the vaccination numbers easing pressures on hospitals that are allowing us to go to football and gigs again. These will be the first to go if hospitals struggle to cope with the flu season combined with Covid. Its clear that some just don't care, and to those I have no sympathy when you find you can't attend these events you paid for because you chose not to make a tiny little sacrifice. There is a perfectly reasonable debate to be had around VPs and if they are effective, are they being implemented correctly or are they even morally justifiable . There is no debate over whether you should or should not get vaccinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 hours ago, doctor jambo said: Hospital admissions are static ,that was the aim . NHS now needs to plow on with this as the norm Assuming you are a doctor. Can I ask what branch of the NHS you work in ? If you are a GP are you back at work yet ? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, luckydug said: Assuming you are a doctor. Can I ask what branch of the NHS you work in ? If you are a GP are you back at work yet ? 🤔 GP, never stopped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, Dennis Denuto said: There is a perfectly reasonable debate to be had around VPs and if they are effective, are they being implemented correctly or are they even morally justifiable . There is no debate over whether you should or should not get vaccinated. Yes, fair comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 49 minutes ago, frankblack said: As I have tried to get across to the hard of thinking here, it is the knock-on effect of the vaccination numbers easing pressures on hospitals that are allowing us to go to football and gigs again. These will be the first to go if hospitals struggle to cope with the flu season combined with Covid. Its clear that some just don't care, and to those I have no sympathy when you find you can't attend these events you paid for because you chose not to make a tiny little sacrifice. Everybody should get the vaccine. end of . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, frankblack said: As I have tried to get across to the hard of thinking here, it is the knock-on effect of the vaccination numbers easing pressures on hospitals that are allowing us to go to football and gigs again. These will be the first to go if hospitals struggle to cope with the flu season combined with Covid. Its clear that some just don't care, and to those I have no sympathy when you find you can't attend these events you paid for because you chose not to make a tiny little sacrifice. “ hard of thinking” another stock phrase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 hours ago, frankblack said: Name calling, derogatory comments, put-downs etc are still personal and an attempt to play the man normally because they have lost the debate. 1 hour ago, frankblack said: As I have tried to get across to the hard of thinking here... Hmmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Denuto Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 43 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Everybody should get the vaccine. end of . Including your kids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: “ hard of thinking” another stock phrase It fits the bill with the intellectually challenged such on this thread that actually think they can influence government policy by refusing to comply. I'll be bringing my VP and paper copy along on Saturday, so I'm covered. Edited October 19, 2021 by frankblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, frankblack said: It fits the bill with the intellectually challenged such on this thread that actually think they can influence government policy by refusing to comply. I'll be bringing my VP and paper copy along on Saturday, so I'm covered. 👍👍👍👍 you can brandish them about and pontificate like you do on this ! I’m sure that’ll go down well in the real world 👍😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: 👍👍👍👍 you can brandish them about and pontificate like you do on this ! I’m sure that’ll go down well in the real world 👍😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, frankblack said: Me and my fellow Jambos mates will need to keep an eye out for you whilst we sashay in to the stadia . Sounds like you’ll be easy to spot . Maybe you should get a sandwich board . We shall Give you a wave 👍👍 “ No VP no entry by order of Nippoleon” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, Dennis Denuto said: Including your kids? Yes, they have been jabbed . Do they need it ? No. Should they be forced to get it? No. However they are young and idealistic, where I am old, cynical and suspicious of power. I sat with them and addressed their questions /feats and thoughts , and they openly and freely consented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Me and my fellow Jambos mates will need to keep an eye out for you whilst we sashay in to the stadia . Sounds like you’ll be easy to spot . Maybe you should get a sandwich board . We shall Give you a wave 👍👍 “ No VP no entry by order of Nippoleon” I'll be easy to spot as you get launched into the meat wagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, frankblack said: I'll be easy to spot as you get launched into the meat wagon. Lol your so hopelessly a relic ! Who using the term “ meat wagon” any more ? Lol and why would I be launched in one ? I have a VP but Ill don’t not be waving it about like you will be ! 😂 just remember and the 1000s inside the Concorse to mask up too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, JamesM48 said: Lol your so hopelessly a relic ! Who using the term “ meat wagon” any more ? Lol and why would I be launched in one ? I have a VP but Ill don’t not be waving it about like you will be ! 😂 just remember and the 1000s inside the Concorse to mask up too Desperate stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, doctor jambo said: Everybody should get the vaccine. end of . Surprised James skipped over this post, he usually calls people out who say such things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) Going by the footage on STV news from Celtic Park, all it needs is a flash of your phone while walking by. The stewards weren't even looking at them I reckon any kind of QR code on your phone will do the trick Edited October 19, 2021 by Nucky Thompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Going by the footage on STV news from Celtic Park, all it needs is a flash of your phone while walking by. The stewards weren't even looking at them I reckon any kind of QR code on your phone will do the trick Be good if you could get in by just flashing one of frankys memes/gifs. Worth a bash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Going by the footage on STV news from Celtic Park, all it needs is a flash of your phone while walking by. The stewards weren't even looking at them I reckon any kind of QR code on your phone will do the trick Sensible softly softly approach to a ludicrous law . Let’s hope Tynie is respectful enough to do the same . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, been here before said: Be good if you could get in by just flashing one of frankys memes/gifs. Worth a bash. I’ll give that a bash ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Going by the footage on STV news from Celtic Park, all it needs is a flash of your phone while walking by. The stewards weren't even looking at them I reckon any kind of QR code on your phone will do the trick Exactly the same for track and trace during England's lock down. Just point your phone at the QR thingy and you were in to any restaurant or bar you chose. Farcical. I wonder how shutting off juke boxes and music in Scottish pubs at the stroke of midnight will be enforced/policed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, been here before said: Be good if you could get in by just flashing one of frankys memes/gifs. Worth a bash. Still stalking me across the board after humiliating yourself the other week. Have a night off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, doctor jambo said: Yes, they have been jabbed . Do they need it ? No. Should they be forced to get it? No. However they are young and idealistic, where I am old, cynical and suspicious of power. I sat with them and addressed their questions /feats and thoughts , and they openly and freely consented Mmm. Always suspicious about authority and people in power securing "open and free" consent. And as a parent like it or not you qualify. And being young and idealistic doesn't stop you from being influenced. In fact it probably helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, frankblack said: Still stalking me across the board after humiliating yourself the other week. Have a night off. Stalking Anti vaxxer Hard of thinking Gif Memes Someone must have a frankie full house by now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 59 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Going by the footage on STV news from Celtic Park, all it needs is a flash of your phone while walking by. The stewards weren't even looking at them I reckon any kind of QR code on your phone will do the trick To be fair, would you want one of those unwashed scum near you for more than the minimum time possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: Going by the footage on STV news from Celtic Park, all it needs is a flash of your phone while walking by. The stewards weren't even looking at them I reckon any kind of QR code on your phone will do the trick I noticed that too. It was always likely tbh. Just for the craic, I'm going to try showing a crossword puzzle sellotaped over a QR code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 37 minutes ago, been here before said: Stalking Anti vaxxer Hard of thinking Gif Memes Someone must have a frankie full house by now? Lol lol 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars plastic Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, frankblack said: Still stalking me across the board after humiliating yourself the other week. Have a night off. Ol Rodders just reminds me of Caddyshack. One of the best comedies of its time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 My 12 and 15 year old getting their vaccines tomorrow. Did I give them a choice - don’t be daft. 🙂 Hopefully it hurts and I get a small bit of payback for them being the occasional cants 🤣🙌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: My 12 and 15 year old getting their vaccines tomorrow. Did I give them a choice - don’t be daft. 🙂 Hopefully it hurts and I get a small bit of payback for them being the occasional cants 🤣🙌 What an odd posting ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 36 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: What an odd posting ! Relax Pushpops Only banter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: Relax Pushpops Only banter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Genuinely Devastated 🙁 Was it calling you Pushpops that tipped you over I need to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, been here before said: Stalking Anti vaxxer Hard of thinking Gif Memes Someone must have a frankie full house by now? Your paranoia and fixation on me is dangerously creepy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 26 minutes ago, frankblack said: Your paranoia and fixation on me is dangerously creepy. Yes!! I was waiting on the victim card for the middle line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, been here before said: Yes!! I was waiting on the victim card for the middle line. Lol I was too . Looks like it’s a tie !! 😂👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, PTBCAL said: Genuinely Devastated 🙁 Was it calling you Pushpops that tipped you over I need to know Never heard the term so it can’t have tipped me over the edge . It was probably the original comment which alarmed me as it seems you treat you’re children like they are like you’re property. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 10 hours ago, PTBCAL said: Genuinely Devastated 🙁 Was it calling you Pushpops that tipped you over I need to know It does seem him and his new found creepy chum think that tag teaming and harassing other posters wins their argument. Their arguments about the pandemic have been based on the apparent fact that the grass is always greener on the other side, which in this case was England. However, it all seems to be going pear shaped and they are set to bring back face masks and work from home advice. Denial from the Tories but that usually means they are stalling and will do a u-turn in 2 to 3 weeks top as per usual. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58976577 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, frankblack said: It does seem him and his new found creepy chum think that tag teaming and harassing other posters wins their argument. Their arguments about the pandemic have been based on the apparent fact that the grass is always greener on the other side, which in this case was England. However, it all seems to be going pear shaped and they are set to bring back face masks and work from home advice. Denial from the Tories but that usually means they are stalling and will do a u-turn in 2 to 3 weeks top as per usual. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58976577 Early day victim card there frankybobs. Now lets see 9 minutes ago, frankblack said: they are set to bring back face masks and work from home advice. Are they? Lets look at your link... "Some Covid restrictions must immediately be reintroduced if England is to avoid "stumbling into a winter crisis", health leaders have warned. The NHS Confederation said a back-up strategy, or Plan B, which includes mandatory face coverings in crowded and enclosed spaces, should be implemented.". Now that isnt quite the same as being... 11 minutes ago, frankblack said: set to bring back face masks and work from home advice .... is it? Or do you mean this bit?... "Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng said it was not time for Plan B and urged greater uptake of booster jabs. The lower hospitalisation and death rate compared to January showed that "this is a virus we are learning to live with", he told BBC Breakfast, and he did not want to jeopardise the "hard-won gains" of reopening the economy and returning to a more normal life. "I don't want to go back to a situation where we have lockdowns," he said. "I don't want to inject any hint of complacency but I think so far our approach is working." So lets see... no mention there of anyone being... 15 minutes ago, frankblack said: set to bring back face masks and work from home advice In short franky babes, nowhere in that article does its say 18 minutes ago, frankblack said: they are set to bring back face masks and work from home advice No-one "is set" to do any such thing. All your article proves is that, yet again, you cant read and understand things you post In short, like pretty much everything you've posted, you're making stuff up. Please franky just dont ever, ever change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, been here before said: Early day victim card there frankybobs. Now lets see Are they? Lets look at your link... "Some Covid restrictions must immediately be reintroduced if England is to avoid "stumbling into a winter crisis", health leaders have warned. The NHS Confederation said a back-up strategy, or Plan B, which includes mandatory face coverings in crowded and enclosed spaces, should be implemented.". Now that isnt quite the same as being... .... is it? Or do you mean this bit?... "Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng said it was not time for Plan B and urged greater uptake of booster jabs. The lower hospitalisation and death rate compared to January showed that "this is a virus we are learning to live with", he told BBC Breakfast, and he did not want to jeopardise the "hard-won gains" of reopening the economy and returning to a more normal life. "I don't want to go back to a situation where we have lockdowns," he said. "I don't want to inject any hint of complacency but I think so far our approach is working." So lets see... no mention there of anyone being... In short franky babes, nowhere in that article does its say No-one "is set" to do any such thing. All your article proves is that, yet again, you cant read and understand things you post In short, like pretty much everything you've posted, you're making stuff up. Please franky just dont ever, ever change. Actually, you can't read, as I put qualifications on the article based on what I saw on BBC news this morning. In case you have been asleep for the past 18 months, there is a pattern from the Tories of denial before acceptance gradually hits. All I said was they will move back in line with Scotland when their health service starts to struggle, as the increasing hospitalisation numbers are indicating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Just now, frankblack said: Actually, you can't read, as I put qualifications on the article based on what I saw on BBC news this morning. In case you have been asleep for the past 18 months, there is a pattern from the Tories of denial before acceptance gradually hits. All I said was they will move back in line with Scotland when their health service starts to struggle, as the increasing hospitalisation numbers are indicating. Franko, it doesnt say what you claim it says. Putting qualifications in it means your saying it doesnt say what your saying it says. Have you any other links you can use to make a point you admit they're not making? Better off sticking with the gif/memes in all honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 The sexual tension on this thread is becoming unbearable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, frankblack said: It does seem him and his new found creepy chum think that tag teaming and harassing other posters wins their argument. Their arguments about the pandemic have been based on the apparent fact that the grass is always greener on the other side, which in this case was England. However, it all seems to be going pear shaped and they are set to bring back face masks and work from home advice. Denial from the Tories but that usually means they are stalling and will do a u-turn in 2 to 3 weeks top as per usual. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58976577 Tag teaming ? 😂😂😂 you’ve got more than two in your “ team” don’t like being challenged on your frankly absurd doom laden postings . Hard lines , it’s a forum That’s what happens on them . If you can’t master debate 😎 don’t debate 54 minutes ago, been here before said: Early day victim card there frankybobs. Now lets see Are they? Lets look at your link... "Some Covid restrictions must immediately be reintroduced if England is to avoid "stumbling into a winter crisis", health leaders have warned. The NHS Confederation said a back-up strategy, or Plan B, which includes mandatory face coverings in crowded and enclosed spaces, should be implemented.". Now that isnt quite the same as being... .... is it? Or do you mean this bit?... "Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng said it was not time for Plan B and urged greater uptake of booster jabs. The lower hospitalisation and death rate compared to January showed that "this is a virus we are learning to live with", he told BBC Breakfast, and he did not want to jeopardise the "hard-won gains" of reopening the economy and returning to a more normal life. "I don't want to go back to a situation where we have lockdowns," he said. "I don't want to inject any hint of complacency but I think so far our approach is working." So lets see... no mention there of anyone being... In short franky babes, nowhere in that article does its say No-one "is set" to do any such thing. All your article proves is that, yet again, you cant read and understand things you post In short, like pretty much everything you've posted, you're making stuff up. Please franky just dont ever, ever change. Oh he will be like a pig in shit with these tantalising morsels of news . Absolutely orgasmic ! More restrictions ! Yeah haaaa . Dearie me . It’s really 😞 I really mean that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 22 minutes ago, Beni said: The sexual tension on this thread is becoming unbearable. You must be feeling something I’m not 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Beni said: The sexual tension on this thread is becoming unbearable. Heres an article about the sexual tension on this thread. https://adespresso.com/blog/4-things-you-should-know-before-you-start-using-memes-on-social-media/ Although I'll qualify it by saying it isnt about the sexual tension on this thread but regardless my point, which I've made up and the article doesnt back up, remains true because I've qualified it. At least I think how its done. Franky chops? Edited October 20, 2021 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 The covid threads have all been bad but don’t think I’ve read a worse thread in the 15 years I’ve been on this place. Jesus ****ing christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: The covid threads have all been bad but don’t think I’ve read a worse thread in the 15 years I’ve been on this place. Jesus ****ing christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Denuto Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: The covid threads have all been bad but don’t think I’ve read a worse thread in the 15 years I’ve been on this place. Jesus ****ing christ. And yet somehow it is managing to continue to get even worse!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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