Bazzas right boot Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, TheBigO said: Saturday's hard to guess and anyone not playing won't have been dropped rather than rested would be my take of it. Fine line between treating it like a cake walk and getting a fright and getting some minutes in legs and resting guys like Halks who perhaps need it due to carrying a knock. As with everything, cov19 may play a part too. For me, Beni needs to bide his time and win his spot back, and that's the deal with having a good squad. The brilliant thing about it, and been a while since we could say this, is we have a couple of key players missing but are in a position where there's no rush to bring them back. With such a small squad, that is absolute testiment to how balanced it is now. I'm still 50/50 on Devlin. Very tenancious and good out of possession but I'm not convinced with him in possession yet. I think Beni is better and Haring as he improves is better on the ball and offers a threat in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaShango Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Devlin's energy is fantastic and I can't see us leaving him out anytime soon. I think he's better on the ball than he gets credit for. I thought he was poor first half on Tuesday but after that he had a very good game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, Bazzas right boot said: I'm still 50/50 on Devlin. Very tenancious and good out of possession but I'm not convinced with him in possession yet. I think Beni is better and Haring as he improves is better on the ball and offers a threat in the air. Yeah I'm the same, he brings a lot to the table but you can see him almost freeze when there isn't an obvious ball on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, TheBigO said: Haring hasn't put a foot wrong. What we have is 3 very very good CMs and two positions up for grabs. Whichever 2 play, I'm happy tbh. What Pete brings as well as general play is a physical presence at set pieces, which especially in defence, we lack a bit (and Beni has been caught out a couple of times too, not complaining but it's something for him to work on). Just another wee dimension to consider when picking. I loved when Beni and Dev first got together and were pinning teams in in their own third, just not letting them out. Was brilliant to see. Their interactions together were always great too, obviously get on really well. As I say, any two from three. When's the last time we could with any justification say that about our midfield!!!! McEneff a good player too and Smith actually a very able CM too. Opshuns!!!!! You're spot on about midfield, for the first time since Djoum it's a strength of ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: There will also be games you could make a case for playing all 3. As you say very good options and big Pete has been excellent cover without quite having the same energy levels but does bring more physicality. Depends what you mean by energy I guess. He strolls games does Pete - always where you need him if that makes sense. And I actually think he moves the ball quicker and more progressively than the other two. Again, not a slight on Dev or Beni, they're all superb. Pete by far the sexiest, I think we all agree. Yup, I guess OF away games it makes sense. More of a 352 type thing. I actually quite like the thought for those games of playing Dev slightly ahead of the other two and allowing him to basically follow the ball when out of possession, so his job is harrying defenders and DCMs into mistakes and long balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: I'm still 50/50 on Devlin. Very tenancious and good out of possession but I'm not convinced with him in possession yet. I think Beni is better and Haring as he improves is better on the ball and offers a threat in the air. Devlin is so tenacious, always in the oppositon faces. Wins ball back so often and must be a nightmare to play against. Maybe lacks a bit of composure on the ball but he's a must for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Smithee said: Yeah I'm the same, he brings a lot to the table but you can see him almost freeze when there isn't an obvious ball on Neil Berry did a great job for us doing exactly the same. All Devlin has to do is win the ball and play as simple a pass as he likes to get us moving forward. Beni, on the other hand, can win the ball and go forward with it himself. Both make us much stronger and more competitive in the midfield area than we have been for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Smithee said: You're spot on about midfield, for the first time since Djoum it's a strength of ours. And even with Djoum (who I really liked), he often had little in there with him. I liked Cowie (as unpopular as that appears on here) and we had others of course who did OK, incl Lee. But as a trio, never had this strength since, I duno, maybe early VR days?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Anyone got any idea if he’s due back or still out for a while? No heard nothing really since start of December Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We_are_the_Hearts Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 minute ago, theshed said: Anyone got any idea if he’s due back or still out for a while? No heard nothing really since start of December Should be on the bench tomorrow, start against Celtic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAndy Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, We_are_the_Hearts said: Should be on the bench tomorrow, start against Celtic Fingers crossed. Slightly concerning that what looked like an innocuous injury had him out so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: I'm still 50/50 on Devlin. Very tenancious and good out of possession but I'm not convinced with him in possession yet. I think Beni is better and Haring as he improves is better on the ball and offers a threat in the air. I think he does good work that seems to be overlooked. He's often played very nice little balls in and around the box, and he can be intricate around the 20 yard mark (had a lovely dummy that nearly paid off the other night). At least once a game he gets himself a decent chance with a good run too - though the dafty needs to work on his composure - I mean, bring that one back across the defender on to your left foot on Tues, son! His biting and energy are huge to the way we play, so even if he has failings, I don't see us replacing that. For me, he's the first choice of the 3, even though he may weirdly be the lesser as a "player" if that makes sense (though I don't like that term as a player is anyone effective, not all about silk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, TheBigO said: I think he does good work that seems to be overlooked. He's often played very nice little balls in and around the box, and he can be intricate around the 20 yard mark (had a lovely dummy that nearly paid off the other night). At least once a game he gets himself a decent chance with a good run too - though the dafty needs to work on his composure - I mean, bring that one back across the defender on to your left foot on Tues, son! His biting and energy are huge to the way we play, so even if he has failings, I don't see us replacing that. For me, he's the first choice of the 3, even though he may weirdly be the lesser as a "player" if that makes sense (though I don't like that term as a player is anyone effective, not all about silk) Fair as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Smithee said: Yeah I'm the same, he brings a lot to the table but you can see him almost freeze when there isn't an obvious ball on Also agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 13/11/2021 at 12:17, Section Q said: Just read Ellis Sims expected to leave Everton in January. 20yo striker who was loaned to Blackpool last season and scored ten goals to get them to the play offs before he picked up an injury. He's been in the everton first team squad a few times this season without starting. Could be another Beni...........thoughts anyone..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 On 21/01/2022 at 02:41, TheBigO said: And even with Djoum (who I really liked), he often had little in there with him. I liked Cowie (as unpopular as that appears on here) and we had others of course who did OK, incl Lee. But as a trio, never had this strength since, I duno, maybe early VR days?? Cowie, Kitchen and Djoum were developing into a good midfield 3, with Cowie and Kitchen sitting, but Cathro ripped that up, trying all sorts of centre midfield permutations for no reason at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 59 minutes ago, Section Q said: No transfer fee paid, value £270Th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 9 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: Cowie, Kitchen and Djoum were developing into a good midfield 3, with Cowie and Kitchen sitting, but Cathro ripped that up, trying all sorts of centre midfield permutations for no reason at all. It was, it was a good balance as well. Kitchen sitting, Cowie box to box and Djoum more attacking. He ripped up a side sitting 3rd for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 12 hours ago, Section Q said: Hearts look at Everton striker Ellis Simms to fill their attacking void | Edinburgh News (scotsman.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 16 hours ago, Factuer Moi said: No transfer fee paid, value £270Th. will be worth about £ a million when he is fit again and another year under his belt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, wattie exploited said: will be worth about £ a million when he is fit again and another year under his belt Ellis Sims ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Factuer Moi said: Ellis Sims ? thought we were talking about Beni 🙃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factuer Moi Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, wattie exploited said: thought we were talking about Beni 🙃 I would place £5M on Beni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB GIN Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 On 21/01/2022 at 09:22, wallace_mercer said: Who’s he coming in for ? haring deserves to keep his place Don’t think he will play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Oh how we missed Beni. What a signing. Absolutely strolled that game. Simms looks a baller. Looks a decent signing. I’m very confident of third place being ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Yep. Great to have him back .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 A combination of formation change and the substitution, but for me Baningime changed the game. We took control of the game in midfield and should have done better with our possession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie1980 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I've seldom seen us dominate either of the OF the way did in that second half Someone today called Beni a "trier" Pfft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 He was class when he came on. Can’t believe some people were saying he wouldn’t get in instead of haring and Devlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Think we need to change the formation to 532 in games against the old firm and Hibs and Aberdeen away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Baningime and Haring for me going forward. Certainly for the derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Shouldn’t be judging us on games vs them, we are underdogs quality wise, we competed and fought our way back into it. Had the chance to make it 2-2 and missed it. Just need to stop giving these ***** a head start. Anyway we move on now to a game where we are the favourites and want to put on a dominant performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logopolis Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 This tactics of letting the OF running us ragged in the first 45 and burning themselves out after 70 minutes doesn't seem to work if we don't take our chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 And btw for me it’s Beni and devlin at cm. cammy has 1 bad game and suddenly he’s pish. Them 2 are both dynamos for us teams can’t live with their engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Brown Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 We are well covered in centre mid. Haring back doing well and Beni back. Concerned about CBs. Halkett injured, Moore??, Souttar maybe away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAlim Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Thought we looked much more likely to score when we went for a back 4. I understand the merits of a back five system but with the players that we have it feels like we're just wasting a position when we play a left back next to Kingsley. Would like to see a lopsided front three similar to the Adam-Hamilton-McCann set up of old: ________________Gordon Atkinson__Souttar__Halkett__Kingsley ________Devlin__Haring__Baningme _______McKay__Simms__Boyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Thought Cammy was a bit unlucky tonight. No idea why he got a yellow. Subbed was right thing to do as he was going to be provoked into the 2nd yellow. That said quite a few players could have been subbed if the decision was based on not trying hard enough in that first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Yes Beni and Haring for me in the next few games. I think we can rotate them a bit to give them a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, BigAlim said: Thought we looked much more likely to score when we went for a back 4. I understand the merits of a back five system but with the players that we have it feels like we're just wasting a position when we play a left back next to Kingsley. Would like to see a lopsided front three similar to the Adam-Hamilton-McCann set up of old: ________________Gordon Atkinson__Souttar__Halkett__Kingsley ________Devlin__Haring__Baningme _______McKay__Simms__Boyce Now that’s a team!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number witheld Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, logopolis said: This tactics of letting the OF running us ragged in the first 45 and burning themselves out after 70 minutes doesn't seem to work if we don't take our chances. Not sure that’s tactics. They are just better than us. They do it to most teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts00 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, BigAlim said: Thought we looked much more likely to score when we went for a back 4. I understand the merits of a back five system but with the players that we have it feels like we're just wasting a position when we play a left back next to Kingsley. Would like to see a lopsided front three similar to the Adam-Hamilton-McCann set up of old: ________________Gordon Atkinson__Souttar__Halkett__Kingsley ________Devlin__Haring__Baningme _______McKay__Simms__Boyce I thought we were playing a four right from the start? Actually no idea what the formation was in the first half but it was a disaster. Cochrane completely lost. No reason to change from 3-4-3 for most games though but back to the drawing board for Celtic and Ranger’s games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lithuania Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: And btw for me it’s Beni and devlin at cm. cammy has 1 bad game and suddenly he’s pish. Them 2 are both dynamos for us teams can’t live with their engines Devlin has been poor for the majority of his games IMO. Runs about a lot and winds folk up. Can’t do anything first time and his second touch is often a (bad) tackle. Good squad player and better than the Olly Lee days but not even close to Haring and Beni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Still very optimistic for the rest of the season. Only Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo1975 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Devlin chases every ball and while that's what you usually want at home when you are up against a team that are comfortable in possession you need someone that can win the battles that need won but knows when to drop off and stick to his man. That was the difference when Beni came on. Devlin didn't have a bad game, he just didn't adapt to what was needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Missed penalty away from a point, at the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haj Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Hard to take but this is the best squad we’ve had in a long time. Great effort to get ourselves back in the game tonight against a side with **** knows how many times our resources. Onwards and upwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattie exploited Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 welcome back Beni what a difference when he came on Devlin was pure shit today cant make a forward pass !!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Big difference when he came on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickycameron98 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Devlin was nowhere to be seen tonight and is overrated tbh. Haring and Beni all day long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 6 hours ago, wattie exploited said: will be worth about £ a million when he is fit again and another year under his belt I'd multiply that by 5. He's that good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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