JamboJoker98 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Seems like a sensible option for cover at left back. Presumably there is a chance Kingsley will be out for periods and Halliday is seen as predominantly midfield? Just a loan so low risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_HMFC Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Newton51 said: Left back? We already have 2 Taking the number 17 - GMS must be changing his number then. Thought if he was a LB and 3 is available he would of taken that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 At least we have a Cochrane back in the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: Hmmm. Given Kingsley's inability to stay fit this probably makes sense. I suppose it would feel better if he signed post signing a centre half. Anyway, welcome to the famous. There are concerns hence this signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 He must be decent to play for his country at that level, will probably start in the cup games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo92 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 His injury problems last season fill me with a bit of fear but looks on paper a solid signing and will be steady deputy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Chances of making it permanent, if he does well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 We get a loan deal and still negative comments from those that know nothing. Honestly, they’d moan if they won the lottery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Just now, Cruyff said: We want players in for pre season. We've seen what happens when we begin a season unprepared. Absolutely. I was being sarcastic as we know how long it takes for us to get players in. But yes, the sooner we get players in the quicker they'll integrate with the rest of the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said: Dunne wasn’t exactly Baresi but at 21 he had a better track record than a single game in the isthmian southern league and half a dozen for a Belgian diddy team. I’m happy to give him a chance but Hearts screaming it’s a “coup” and calling him “highly rated” is a cringe. With only 4500 STs renewed at full price, it seems like we are going down the bargain basement route with this sort of signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Hope he works out well for us but I’d rather avoid loan signings ( just my preference) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansel Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 From wiki- On 5 February 2021, it was announced that Cochrane has suffered an injury which would keep him out for the rest of the season. Hopefully not a sign of what's to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said: Dunne wasn’t exactly Baresi but at 21 he had a better track record than a single game in the isthmian southern league and half a dozen for a Belgian diddy team. I’m happy to give him a chance but Hearts screaming it’s a “coup” and calling him “highly rated” is a cringe. They're hardly going to play him down are they. Let's just see how he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Just now, Baxfee said: We get a loan deal and still negative comments from those that know nothing. Honestly, they’d moan if they won the lottery This deal suits Hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Welcome fella. Only conerns are: Does this mean we see Halliday as CM? Hope not. Are we penny pinching cos we'd already had Harry's strip printed? Positives: young lad, eager to get his career started, not a bad kind of market for us even on loan gives us options, incl Kingsley at LCB in a 3 "just" a loan means we're adding to the squad but imagine budget-wise perm signings in more essential positions not effected Impossible to be whelmed in any direction so anyone showing any whelm degree is at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berra than you Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Just now, David McCaig said: With only 4500 STs renewed at full price, it seems like we are going down the bargain basement route with this sort of signing. Not saying that we weren't planning on a low spend window anyway, but I imagine the club budgeted on reduced season ticket numbers, and I'd be surprised if they factored in the full price option at all given they were offering reasonable alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: A signing from Hibs parent club? I read an article on the Brighton website about this and saw that David Weir is with them so maybe he influenced him coming to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamle1874 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Out of contract next summer so you never know if he does well, could get him on a perm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Fredrickson Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 His contract at Brighton is up at the end of the season so this could be a positive for us if he impresses and enjoys hsi time here. A 21 year old former England under 20 player (ok only a couple of games) with not much first team experience. This could/should be the kind of player we are looking at to bring in, develop & if they leave, sell for a profit. Welcome and good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Welcome to the lad 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_HMFC Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, 3fingersreid said: Hope he works out well for us but I’d rather avoid loan signings ( just my preference) . One of the positions we seem to loan players in. Mitchell and Smith-Brown . I'd imagine Kingsley will be first choice when fit but would be good to have quality in all positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Carl Fredrickson said: His contract at Brighton is up at the end of the season so this could be a positive for us if he impresses and enjoys hsi time here. A 21 year old former England under 20 player (ok only a couple of games) with not much first team experience. This could/should be the kind of player we are looking at to bring in, develop & if they leave, sell for a profit. Welcome and good luck Ah makes even more sense if deal up at end of season. Never know, might even try to tie up in Jan if he's doing ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geomac Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Baxfee said: We get a loan deal and still negative comments from those that know nothing. Honestly, they’d moan if they won the lottery Yip would moan it wasn't a rollover week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sertse Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Not to be negative however did we actually need this player? I thought our targets were centre back and a striker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said: Happy to give him a chance but signing what seems a fairly mediocre unproven left back on loan from Brighton is hardly ‘awe inspiring’. He only played half a dozen games for a Belgian lower league diddy team last season, it’s not exactly the best track record for helping us challenge for 3rd/4th this season. Robbie Neilson spent at least one season at a Scottish diddy team, went on to become a mainstay of Hearts over a long period, and won a cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Stu_HMFC said: One of the positions we seem to loan players in. Mitchell and Smith-Brown . I'd imagine Kingsley will be first choice when fit but would be good to have quality in all positions. Hope he's more a first season Mitchell than a Smith-Brown! Good luck to the lad. Hopefully does well and we see him in the team for some of the friendlies coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3fingersreid Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Stu_HMFC said: One of the positions we seem to loan players in. Mitchell and Smith-Brown . I'd imagine Kingsley will be first choice when fit but would be good to have quality in all positions. I fully agree regarding the quality , just hope it’s not the start of a host of loanees though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Carl Fredrickson said: His contract at Brighton is up at the end of the season so this could be a positive for us if he impresses and enjoys hsi time here. A 21 year old former England under 20 player (ok only a couple of games) with not much first team experience. This could/should be the kind of player we are looking at to bring in, develop & if they leave, sell for a profit. Welcome and good luck If he does well Brighton will give him an extension, I feel we have been played here. Hibs cash in on Doig next season. Hope he does well with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Aidy White mark II. Complete lack of whelms for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I’m seeing this as a replacement for Aidy White. Someone who can step in when needed, mostly off the bench be at left back or left midfield. Not audaciously whelming though but good luck to the lad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Just now, Pasquale for King said: When you look at the wages they pay £200k is about what they will pay Dunnes replacement, no way they’re waiving any fee. Which is fair enough as they’re fans would want to know why they let players go for nothing. They might take a sell on clause in the contract and a smaller fee though. Yes. My thinking was that we could maybe have offered to even pay half his development fee now and the other half later. Also throw in any potential sell-on clause. I'm sure there's different permutations that go on between clubs regards fees etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldie83 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Sertse said: Not to be negative however did we actually need this player? I thought our targets were centre back and a striker? Who else plays left back if Kingsley can’t? Sensible signing. Cheap and nothing to lose. Welcome Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 minute ago, David McCaig said: With only 4500 STs renewed at full price, it seems like we are going down the bargain basement route with this sort of signing. Probably, to be honest under the financial constraints I’d even understand that. The club just blatantly lying and pretending we’ve signed some superstar prospect from Brighton that everybody wants and that we’re so ‘lucky’ to get, doesn’t help anyone though, Cochrane especially. Even a quick glance at his career so far shows actually playing for Hearts senior team would be by FAR the biggest challenge and highest level he’s been at so far. Kid will have enough pressure on him without pretending we’ve signed Reece James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Sertse said: Not to be negative however did we actually need this player? I thought our targets were centre back and a striker? It could well be that they have had to do this due to the Kingsley injury situation and wanting to utilise Halliday elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Definitely needed this player. Was surprised when notified a left back was on radar, this is actually a decent bit of proactive work for a change rather than reaction when it would have been too late. Positive news ahead I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bistokid Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Only issue is if this means Halliday is seen as a CM for next season. Really hope we strengthen in their with 2 first team options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David McCaig Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Berra than you said: Not saying that we weren't planning on a low spend window anyway, but I imagine the club budgeted on reduced season ticket numbers, and I'd be surprised if they factored in the full price option at all given they were offering reasonable alternatives. Obviously any comments need to caveated with the fact that none of us have seen him play, but the quotes on our website claiming a 'coup' seem completely at odds with the playing career of someone who is now 21. It seem more like the sort of back-up signing that would sneak into a newspaper's in-brief column rather than a transfer to be lauded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 minute ago, bistokid said: Only issue is if this means Halliday is seen as a CM for next season. Really hope we strengthen in their with 2 first team options Bit of flexibility I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 When I was at ricarton last week Kingsley was training with a separate group being watched by the physio. So presuming he's not fit enough to join the main group so it's defo a sensible signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Kingsley might be out for a bit longer so this makes sense I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 minute ago, bistokid said: Only issue is if this means Halliday is seen as a CM for next season. Really hope we strengthen in their with 2 first team options Yup said that above. Hope is basically this kid is seen as better than Halliday as cover at LB or to compete with Kingsley and Halliday is very much utility man on the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Probably the sort of signing that would be fine if it came on the back of 3 good players coming in as starters. Still time 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgieheart Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 is halliday on a 2 year deal ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Just now, David McCaig said: Obviously any comments need to caveated with the fact that none of us have seen him play, but the quotes on our website claiming a 'coup' seem completely at odds with the playing career of someone who is now 21. It seem more like the sort of back-up signing that would sneak into a newspaper's in-brief column rather than a transfer to be lauded. Depends who else wanted him. Always take that stuff with a pinch of salt in any case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, Stu_HMFC said: One of the positions we seem to loan players in. Mitchell and Smith-Brown . I'd imagine Kingsley will be first choice when fit but would be good to have quality in all positions. More to do with the complete inability of the last DoF to sign a decent LB. Lets hope this guy contributes more than the two you mentioned, one of which is playing for Blackpool as a right winger and the other at Farsley Celtic in the national football league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Just now, Nookie Bear said: Probably the sort of signing that would be fine if it came on the back of 3 good players coming in as starters. Still time 🤷♂️ Aye it's a funny one, the club have to announce the signings as they sign, especially with pre-season already on the go. But to stop all the weeping, be better if this signing came after others probably. I've no doubt we'll be signing a couple of players who we think will improve our first XI, but there'll also be some squad padding too, such as this. No offence to the kid and I hope he storms it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, gorgieheart said: is halliday on a 2 year deal ? Yes, thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Might be better than Kingsley. Let's reserve judgement on the laddie. I'm sure we will bring in the players in other positions we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Weird one, I get it from the point of view that Kingsley may be injured a lot, but I thought Hibs had a Brighton tie up? If he was any good they'd have snapped him up surely with that tie up no? Just a thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_R Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Probably been mentioned already but havnt Hibs just signed some agreement to be linked with Brighton? Seems odd we would then get one of their "highly rated" prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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