Official Neilson Out Thread ( merged )

[GinRummy]

10 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

Total exaggeration. Every big club has had one or more embarrassing defeats at some point. In a year’s time it will be barely remembered by anyone outside Brora and the JKB clique of Robbie-haters and Budge-haters

What’s your opinion on Budge, given the last 5 years? Do you think Robbie is the best manager to take us into next season?

 

Easy to play everything down. We got put out both cups by part time sides and got more and more cautious as the season went on, right up to the recent Alloa game. If we can’t play attacking football in this shitty league then what awaits us next season?

[Niemi’s gloves]

1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said:

It was on the U.K. national news ffs, the single worst result in the clubs history.
Folk still talk about Berwick Rangers beating Rangers in 1967 some 54 years later. 

It may or may not be the single worst defeat in our history - it certainly wasn’t the most painful - but my point remains.  Every club has embarrassing defeats from time to time and the suggestion that it’s the “most embarrassing in the history of Scottish football” is complete nonsense. To take just one example: Hibs’ 9-0 aggregate defeat by Malmö was highly embarrassing not just for them but also for Scottish football. But today barely remembered outside Edinburgh. 

[glynnlondon]

15 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

Total exaggeration. Every big club has had one or more embarrassing defeats at some point. In a year’s time it will be barely remembered by anyone outside Brora and the JKB clique of Robbie-haters and Budge-haters

Hiya Ann

[Unknown user]

6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Changes that needed made, we were joint bottom of the league when he took over. 
He should never have been hired as that squad weren’t capable of playing his style, again that’s not his fault that’s on the clueless Budge.  Having said that we had three managers try everything possible to get a tune out the squad CL amassed and fail, I’m not convinced anyone could. 
The only defence you can make for Neilson is that he still has some of these players, if he had signed better players then his 13 might well have compensated better for this. 

They weren't all changes that needed to be made, and if he wasn't able to balance his playing principles and the pragmatism of the mid season situation then that's got to be on him.

 

As for now, I always hope a hearts manager will come good but it looks pretty unlikely. I'm not the type to rage and shout and demand change. The way I see it, I support the team, the club and it's general endeavours so I suppose you would say I technically support the current manager. I always hope it comes good, but I'm also aware that a lot of the fans have turned and it seems unlikely he'll win them back so I do think change would probably be beneficial for the relationship between fans and club if nothing else.

[Pasquale for King]

3 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

It may or may not be the single worst defeat in our history - it certainly wasn’t the most painful - but my point remains.  Every club has embarrassing defeats from time to time and the suggestion that it’s the “most embarrassing in the history of Scottish football” is complete nonsense. To take just one example: Hibs’ 9-0 aggregate defeat by Malmö was highly embarrassing not just for them but also for Scottish football. But today barely remembered outside Edinburgh. 

Painful no, can you name any other defeat that was worse? 
Birkikara? Alloa for the first time ever? QoS for the first time since 1983?

Livi 5 nil? 
Let’s not lower our standards to Hibs results please. 

[kingantti1874]

15 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

Total exaggeration. Every big club has had one or more embarrassing defeats at some point. In a year’s time it will be barely remembered by anyone outside Brora and the JKB clique of Robbie-haters and Budge-haters

What utter nonsense. This is factually the worst defeat in the history of Scottish football. Worse than Berwick v Rangers which gets brought up annually. We now hold the title for the biggest shock result of al time.  And achieved in a season where we also got pumped out of the league cup by Alloa..

 

there isn’t a JKB clique of Robbie haters. There are a huge majority of hearts fans who want neilson to go.

 

those offering him support are the clique, a small minority putting up an ultimately futile defence.

 

as I’ve said before. There will no doubt be a gig at planet soccer or something for Robbie once he inevitably is fired 

[Niemi’s gloves]

2 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

What’s your opinion on Budge, given the last 5 years? Do you think Robbie is the best manager to take us into next season?

 

Easy to play everything down. We got put out both cups by part time sides and got more and more cautious as the season went on, right up to the recent Alloa game. If we can’t play attacking football in this shitty league then what awaits us next season?

Budge: overall a positive contribution to Hearts’ history despite making her fair share of mistakes.

Robbie: overall record is ok over his two spells. But my main belief is that clubs that outperform over time do so because of continuity; while clubs that change their manager too often and have a massive turnover of players will underperform. 

[DH1986]

2 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

It may or may not be the single worst defeat in our history - it certainly wasn’t the most painful - but my point remains.  Every club has embarrassing defeats from time to time and the suggestion that it’s the “most embarrassing in the history of Scottish football” is complete nonsense. To take just one example: Hibs’ 9-0 aggregate defeat by Malmö was highly embarrassing not just for them but also for Scottish football. But today barely remembered outside Edinburgh. 

Who gives a shit about Scottish Football or what folk outside Edinburgh think ?
 

That result v Brora was the worst in our history and it was a disaster for the club and the fans.....well the majority of them anyway.

 

The accepting attitude of the obvious failures of this club from some supporters, the board of directors, the foundation, the various managers and players is absolutely sickening.

 

 

[kingantti1874]

7 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

It may or may not be the single worst defeat in our history - it certainly wasn’t the most painful - but my point remains.  Every club has embarrassing defeats from time to time and the suggestion that it’s the “most embarrassing in the history of Scottish football” is complete nonsense. To take just one example: Hibs’ 9-0 aggregate defeat by Malmö was highly embarrassing not just for them but also for Scottish football. But today barely remembered outside Edinburgh. 

😂 I’d rather be beaten 20-0 by Malmö than lose to postmen, bin men and bakers who hadn’t played or trained for 3 months.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 18, 2021 by kingantti1874

[Pasquale for King]

3 minutes ago, Smithee said:

They weren't all changes that needed to be made, and if he wasn't able to balance his playing principles and the pragmatism of the mid season situation then that's got to be on him.

 

As for now, I always hope a hearts manager will come good but it looks pretty unlikely. I'm not the type to rage and shout and demand change. The way I see it, I support the team, the club and it's general endeavours so I suppose you would say I technically support the current manager. I always hope it comes good, but I'm also aware that a lot of the fans have turned and it seems unlikely he'll win them back so I do think change would probably be beneficial for the relationship between fans and club if nothing else.

We had become more pragmatic by the last few games, ER in particular wasn’t pressing for 90 minutes. 

I think we’ve seen in the time Budge has been in charge that if you don’t analyse what a manager is doing and settle for mediocrity with no consequences for failure you find yourselves back where you started. 
Neilson is a goner, it’s only a matter of time. 

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

32 minutes ago, martoon said:

 

 

Stop it, Tosh. Please. I'm hurting.

 

No limit to his tolerance for self humiliation. It’s quite something. 

[GinRummy]

Just now, Niemi’s gloves said:

Budge: overall a positive contribution to Hearts’ history despite making her fair share of mistakes.

Robbie: overall record is ok over his two spells. But my main belief is that clubs that outperform over time do so because of continuity; while clubs that change their manager too often and have a massive turnover of players will underperform. 

In the last 5 years we’ve had continuity under Budge and it’s been an almost constant decline that culminated in us playing in the championship. You do realise continuity with people who are bad at their job is not a good thing? 

I agree we need continuity for a season or two minimum as far as the manager is concerned. Not the wrong manager though. You must see that Robbies whole approach is different this time so his previous record isn’t that relevant, imo of course.

 

I take it if AB did sack RN you’d be critical of her and disappointed?

[Niemi’s gloves]

4 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

What utter nonsense. This is factually the worst defeat in the history of Scottish football. Worse than Berwick v Rangers which gets brought up annually. We now hold the title for the biggest shock result of al time.  And achieved in a season where we also got pumped out of the league cup by Alloa..

 

there isn’t a JKB clique of Robbie haters. There are a huge majority of hearts fans who want neilson to go.

 

those offering him support are the clique, a small minority putting up an ultimately futile defence.

 

as I’ve said before. There will no doubt be a gig at planet soccer or something for Robbie once he inevitably is fired 

“Factually the worst defeat in the history of Scottish football”. Nonsense. It may be your opinion but that doesn’t make it “factual”

[Pasquale for King]

4 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

😂 I’d rather be beaten 20-0 by Malmö than lose to postmen, bin men and bakers who hadn’t played or trained for 3 months.

 

 

 

 

The two goal scorers were sparkies, they certainly know about shocks 🙈. 

[Unknown user]

2 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

We had become more pragmatic by the last few games, ER in particular wasn’t pressing for 90 minutes. 

I think we’ve seen in the time Budge has been in charge that if you don’t analyse what a manager is doing and settle for mediocrity with no consequences for failure you find yourselves back where you started. 
Neilson is a goner, it’s only a matter of time. 

Your second sentence could easily apply to Stendel by the way, but I probably tend to agree with the last one while always hoping for the best.

[Hashimoto]

31 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

Total exaggeration. Every big club has had one or more embarrassing defeats at some point. In a year’s time it will be barely remembered by anyone outside Brora and the JKB clique of Robbie-haters and Budge-haters

Behave yourself.....Hangover not kicked in yet?

Neilson Out

[Niemi’s gloves]

8 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

😂 I’d rather be beaten 20-0 by Malmö than lose to postmen, bin men and bakers who hadn’t played or trained for 3 months.

 

 

 

 

Seems to me that you’re outing yourself as a Hibs fan. At best, you’re saying that you’d rather be embarrassed in front of all of European football than just domestically.

[kingantti1874]

6 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

“Factually the worst defeat in the history of Scottish football”. Nonsense. It may be your opinion but that doesn’t make it “factual”

no it’s a fact. 3rd biggest team in Scotland currently running the 4th biggest budget knocked out of the Scottish cup by a highland league team who hadn’t been able to train or play for months.

 

it’s a FACT. Try as you may you won’t find a bigger upset

[Hashimoto]

19 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

It may or may not be the single worst defeat in our history - it certainly wasn’t the most painful - but my point remains.  Every club has embarrassing defeats from time to time and the suggestion that it’s the “most embarrassing in the history of Scottish football” is complete nonsense. To take just one example: Hibs’ 9-0 aggregate defeat by Malmö was highly embarrassing not just for them but also for Scottish football. But today barely remembered outside Edinburgh. 

Pathetic.

Malmo...Top Swedish premier team = Brora.....Highland league amateur team...

Seriously, think before you post....

Neilson Out

[Niemi’s gloves]

1 minute ago, kingantti1874 said:

no it’s a fact. 3rd biggest team in Scotland currently running the 4th biggest budget knocked out of the Scottish cup by a highland league team who hadn’t been able to train or play for months.

 

it’s a FACT. Try as you may you won’t find a bigger upset

It really isn’t worth debating with folk who can’t distinguish between facts and opinions. 

[Bad Religion]

4 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

Seems to me that you’re outing yourself as a Hibs fan. At best, you’re saying that you’d rather be embarrassed in front of all of European football than just domestically.

🤦🏽

[Beni]

7 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

But my main belief is that clubs that outperform over time do so because of continuity; while clubs that change their manager too often and have a massive turnover of players will underperform

 

The club couldn't have had more stability from 2014 to 2019, with one man in charge of the entire football operation, he even returned to the dugout himself and had an unprecedented amount of power on modern football by wearing 3 hats at the club.

That's not to say continuity isn't desirable, but there's a very good argument that Budge's desire for continuity by (as she admitted) backing Levein for too long is the very reason the club has fallen so far.

The alarm bells are ringing again, with capitulation to part time teams and turgid football on display.

 

As the great philosopher George W Bush once said:

Fool me once, shame on you,

Fool me twice, erm..  

eh...

Don't get fooled again!

 

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

38 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

Total exaggeration. Every big club has had one or more embarrassing defeats at some point. In a year’s time it will be barely remembered by anyone outside Brora and the JKB clique of Robbie-haters and Budge-haters

The problem is Neilson specialises in them. The Maltese pub team were a mere starter to the Brora main course.

[Hashimoto]

6 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

Seems to me that you’re outing yourself as a Hibs fan. At best, you’re saying that you’d rather be embarrassed in front of all of European football than just domestically.

Ah!....The "you must be a Hibs fan" thrown at decent Hearts fans again!

Mate, take a couple of aspirin, shut the curtains and go back to bed for a couple of hours!

You'll feel better in a wee while, honestly!

Neilson Out 

[kingantti1874]

1 minute ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

Seems to me that you’re outing yourself as a Hibs fan. At best, you’re saying that you’d rather be embarrassed in front of all of European football than just domestically.

what you are is a ****ing loser, happy to be embarrassed by all and sundry.  probably enjoy being dominated at home as well! I bet you have a safe word 😆

 

Anyway, your excuse making poster boy landed us on the main BBC webpage, the ****ing U.K. national news. I don’t belive hibs 9-0 aggregate loss achieved that did it? . 
 

Fact is there is more credibility than losing heavily to a team who are far better than you than there is to losing to a village of 1300 people, and a highland league virtually amateur outfit who were able to play or train.

 

 

[Niemi’s gloves]

2 minutes ago, Hashimoto said:

Pathetic.

Malmo...Top Swedish premier team = Brora.....Highland league amateur team...

Seriously, think before you post....

Neilson Out

My point was that every team has embarrassing defeats, which are later largely forgotten by the world at large. 
 

And I don’t think I need advice on posting from someone who pathetically ends every post with “Neilson out”

[kingantti1874]

4 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

It really isn’t worth debating with folk who can’t distinguish between facts and opinions. 

Never before had a club operating as low as the highland league ever knocked out a bigger club.

 

that is a fact. Not an opinion. A stone cold measurable fact .

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

4 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

My point was that every team has embarrassing defeats, which are later largely forgotten by the world at large. 
 

And I don’t think I need advice on posting from someone who pathetically ends every post with “Neilson out”

Even if they are forgotten by the world at large, why should we forget as Hearts fans?

[Hashimoto]

1 minute ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

My point was that every team has embarrassing defeats, which are later largely forgotten by the world at large. 
 

And I don’t think I need advice on posting from someone who pathetically ends every post with “Neilson out”

Honest question.....Do you think we should forget the Brora result?

Or is it just another case of acceptance, mediocracy reigns at Tynecastle.

Budge and especially Neilson must love fans like you who can just conveniently put results like Brora behind them.
I mean, You aren't shocked or embarrassed?

You have the cheek to come on and question decent posters about their Hearts supporting credentials.
As I see it.....There's only one on here that raises question marks about who they support!

Neilson Out

[Hashimoto]

7 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

My point was that every team has embarrassing defeats, which are later largely forgotten by the world at large. 
 

And I don’t think I need advice on posting from someone who pathetically ends every post with “Neilson out”

NEILSON OUT

Is the message clear enough for you...?

Neilson Out

[Pasquale for King]

32 minutes ago, Smithee said:

Your second sentence could easily apply to Stendel by the way, but I probably tend to agree with the last one while always hoping for the best.

I think Stendel definitely suffered the consequences of three months in charge.
As I’ve said her lack of knowledge led her to believe that it was ok to take six weeks to hire a manager, let’s not forget it took nearly a month to find the guy along the corridor. He had her under the impression it was all just a wee blip that would be corrected easily. 
She has no idea how to run a football club and made quite a few awful decisions whilst surrounding herself with her acolytes. Neilson is the very embodiment of that.  

Edited April 18, 2021 by Pasquale for King

[Niemi’s gloves]

4 minutes ago, Hashimoto said:

Honest question.....Do you think we should forget the Brora result?

Or is it just another case of acceptance, mediocracy reigns at Tynecastle.

Budge and especially Neilson must love fans like you who can just conveniently put results like Brora behind them.
I mean, You aren't shocked or embarrassed?

You have the cheek to come on and question decent posters about their Hearts supporting credentials.
As I see it.....There's only one on here that raises question marks about who they support!

Neilson Out

Results like Brora only tear a club apart if fans and directors over-react to them. It was an awful result but it was also something that wouldn’t have happened (in my view) if Craig Gordon had been in goal. To the best of my knowledge, no team has been asked to play a cup game with players on international duty in the 60 years I have been supporting Hearts.

[GinRummy]

Just now, Niemi’s gloves said:

Results like Brora only tear a club apart if fans and directors over-react to them. It was an awful result but it was also something that wouldn’t have happened (in my view) if Craig Gordon had been in goal. To the best of my knowledge, no team has been asked to play a cup game with players on international duty in the 60 years I have been supporting Hearts.

I’m genuinely interested because I struggle to understand why anyone could accept that result and our decline over the years. If Hearts were to suffer another 5 years of decline would that be ok or would you have reached a breaking point by then?  Say we get put out the cup by Kelty and bathgate thistle during this period? Would that be too far or not?

[martoon]

24 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

No limit to his tolerance for self humiliation. It’s quite something. 

 

The notion that a traditional top tier club winning the 2nd tier, or gaining promotion from it, instantly signals the end of a decline is laughable.

 

The promotions in 1978, 1980 and 2015 meant nothing of the sort. Only 1983 had that affect on Hearts and that was because we had, to say the least, competent leadership in Mercer and McDonald.

 

What have we got now: Ann Budge and Neilson with the shadow of Levein ever lurking in the background.

 

I hope @Smith's right bootis correct. 

 

But it doesn't look at all promising. There's absolutely nothing there to believe otherwise.

 

 

[The Mighty Thor]

3 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

Results like Brora only tear a club apart if fans and directors over-react to them. It was an awful result but it was also something that wouldn’t have happened (in my view) if Craig Gordon had been in goal. To the best of my knowledge, no team has been asked to play a cup game with players on international duty in the 60 years I have been supporting Hearts.

Sorry but that's a pish poor excuse. 

We've got a fairly large, highly paid squad of professional footballers who were given the run around by a team of part-time, semi -professional footballers who hadn't played a competitive fixture for nearly 3 months, who had apparently had 5 training sessions and a bounce game. 

If we were asked to play two games a day against teams like that I'd be fully expecting us to win them. 

It's no overreaction. It was entirely predictable because we have a poor manager devoid of tactics, devoid of the ability to get the best out of players or indeed a team. 

We also have a cancer running through the football department, which has eaten away any potential for good in the last 5 years and which has left us with Bob, the shite he inherited and the shite he added. 

 

It's no way to run a rodeo. 

[Hashimoto]

1 minute ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

Results like Brora only tear a club apart if fans and directors over-react to them. It was an awful result but it was also something that wouldn’t have happened (in my view) if Craig Gordon had been in goal. To the best of my knowledge, no team has been asked to play a cup game with players on international duty in the 60 years I have been supporting Hearts.

A properly coached Hearts reserves team should be able to put away teams like Brora with plenty to spare.

Imagine the embarrassment of asking the SFA to postpone a game against Brora because Gordon was on Scotland duty.
Never in the 60+ years of me supporting Hearts have we witnessed a result on the scale of Brora.
Losing at Dens park was bloody hard to take, took years to get over it. Conspiracy at Love Street and all that. and on top of that, Dundee were a decent outfit at that time.
But Brora dragged us down to new depths....

But let's be honest for a minute. Brora is just the icing on the cake. The vast majority of fans are no longer buying into this charade any longer. It's a massive Budge / Neilson con job. The same majority are no longer willing to having the wool pulled over their eyes.
If the minority are happy with the direction in which the club are heading then fine!.....I'm glad that they are content and share the same limited ambitions as those leading our club.
I just don't want to be part of that journey any longer

 
And FWIW..On the basis of the Brora result - You don't let the person, or persons responsible for that get a 2nd chance

Neilson Out  

[Pasquale for King]

13 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

Results like Brora only tear a club apart if fans and directors over-react to them. It was an awful result but it was also something that wouldn’t have happened (in my view) if Craig Gordon had been in goal. To the best of my knowledge, no team has been asked to play a cup game with players on international duty in the 60 years I have been supporting Hearts.

Nonsense, happens all the time. Hibs have had to do it with Boyle away, Rangers did it and we also did it with Djoum and Rherras in the AFCON. 
The rule is three players and you can postpone it, and we didn’t have three away. It would’ve been embarrassing to ask for a cancellation anyway against a PT amateur team that had only played 3 games all season and none for three months. 

[JohnB]

3 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

 

"We also have a cancer running through the football department, which has eaten away any potential for good in the last 5 years and which has left us with Bob, the shite he inherited and the shite he added. 

 

It's no way to run a rodeo". 

If Carlsberg wrote succinct descriptions of what's wrong in football clubs they'd find it difficult to beat this one.

[Debut 4]

16 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

I’m genuinely interested because I struggle to understand why anyone could accept that result and our decline over the years. If Hearts were to suffer another 5 years of decline would that be ok or would you have reached a breaking point by then?  Say we get put out the cup by Kelty and bathgate thistle during this period? Would that be too far or not?

We still have a hell of a lot of fighting to do to see the light at the end of the tunnel.  I think many people are missing it, mate. There’s every chance we won’t float to the top 3, 4 next season and if that is the case, we won’t be far of a decade of mediocrity for most part by the time we get our act together(if we do!).

I’m going to cut a bit slack and say the admin period naturally interferes with the stability of a club, but what’s the excuse for the last 3, 4 years?  
 

Even if you wanted to include season 11-12 when we finished 5th in the table, it’s been 10 seasons of inconsistency.  As the lad said on the podcast on Sportsound, Hearts standing in the game has taken a big dent.  That’s what happens when you accept mediocrity and people become blasé.

 

 

 

Edited April 18, 2021 by Debut 4

[glynnlondon]

54 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

No limit to his tolerance for self humiliation. It’s quite something. 

 

[kingantti1874]

20 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

Results like Brora only tear a club apart if fans and directors over-react to them. It was an awful result but it was also something that wouldn’t have happened (in my view) if Craig Gordon had been in goal. To the best of my knowledge, no team has been asked to play a cup game with players on international duty in the 60 years I have been supporting Hearts.

An excuse worthy of Robbie Neilson himself. He will be writing that excuse into his long list of excuses

 

Bobby Pitch

International Duty

The Referee Fault

Plastic Pitch

They Sat in 

It was windy

It was too cold

A bird landed on the roof and distracted us. 

 

Clubs tear themselves apart when they are not run properly, when they don’t make best use of resources and decisons are made on something other than performances. The fact that Ann likes Robbie is not a reason to keep a guy who is out of his depth. 

[Bazzas right boot]

1 hour ago, martoon said:

 

 

Stop it, Tosh. Please. I'm hurting.

 

 

 

So promotion is a decline? 

 

 

[Gambo]

27 minutes ago, Niemi’s gloves said:

Results like Brora only tear a club apart if fans and directors over-react to them. It was an awful result but it was also something that wouldn’t have happened (in my view) if Craig Gordon had been in goal. To the best of my knowledge, no team has been asked to play a cup game with players on international duty in the 60 years I have been supporting Hearts.

Quite worrying that Neilson supporters think that missing Craig Gordon was the problem v Brora.

 

You would have thought the Great Robbie would have been able to put a team together to get a result v  a part time Highland League team who had not really trained or played for 3 months no matter who we had to put in goals. Quite a damming defence of Robbie tbf.

[kingantti1874]

2 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

 

So promotion is a decline? 

 

 

bigger picture 

Loses to Dunfermline, Dundee, Raith, Alloa, Queen of the South, Brora Rangers.Further Dropped points to Queen of the south, Dunfermline, Morton, Arbroath, Inverness in the Space of 7 months . 
 

we have had 3 good wins all season, the rest of it has been turgid mince. 
 

The standard in this league has been absolutely brutal, and virtually every team

in the league has take points from us - embarrassing 

[Agentjambo]

4 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

bigger picture 

Loses to Dunfermline, Dundee, Raith, Alloa, Queen of the South, Brora Rangers.Further Dropped points to Queen of the south, Dunfermline, Morton, Arbroath, Inverness in the Space of 7 months . 
 

we have had 3 good wins all season, the rest of it has been turgid mince. 
 

The standard in this league has been absolutely brutal, and virtually every team

in the league has take points from us - embarrassing 

Nail on the head.

[Lfhearts]

34 minutes ago, Hashimoto said:

A properly coached Hearts reserves team should be able to put away teams like Brora with plenty to spare.

Imagine the embarrassment of asking the SFA to postpone a game against Brora because Gordon was on Scotland duty.
Never in the 60+ years of me supporting Hearts have we witnessed a result on the scale of Brora.
Losing at Dens park was bloody hard to take, took years to get over it. Conspiracy at Love Street and all that. and on top of that, Dundee were a decent outfit at that time.
But Brora dragged us down to new depths....

But let's be honest for a minute. Brora is just the icing on the cake. The vast majority of fans are no longer buying into this charade any longer. It's a massive Budge / Neilson con job. The same majority are no longer willing to having the wool pulled over their eyes.
If the minority are happy with the direction in which the club are heading then fine!.....I'm glad that they are content and share the same limited ambitions as those leading our club.
I just don't want to be part of that journey any longer

 
And FWIW..On the basis of the Brora result - You don't let the person, or persons responsible for that get a 2nd chance

Neilson Out  

Magnificent.

[Bazzas right boot]

10 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

bigger picture 

Loses to Dunfermline, Dundee, Raith, Alloa, Queen of the South, Brora Rangers.Further Dropped points to Queen of the south, Dunfermline, Morton, Arbroath, Inverness in the Space of 7 months . 
 

we have had 3 good wins all season, the rest of it has been turgid mince. 
 

The standard in this league has been absolutely brutal, and virtually every team

in the league has take points from us - embarrassing 

 

Individual games are not the bigger picture. The league season is. 

Winning the league and being promoted is not embarrassing either. 

It is what we had to do in order to start our upward trajectory and reverse the last few years of decline. 

 

Should we not take promotion and decline it? 

Give it to Raith or Dundee instead? 

How embarrassed are you? 

 

Ridiculous. 

 

 

 

[Hashimoto]

7 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

bigger picture 

Loses to Dunfermline, Dundee, Raith, Alloa, Queen of the South, Brora Rangers.Further Dropped points to Queen of the south, Dunfermline, Morton, Arbroath, Inverness in the Space of 7 months . 
 

we have had 3 good wins all season, the rest of it has been turgid mince. 
 

The standard in this league has been absolutely brutal, and virtually every team

in the league has take points from us - embarrassing 

He should be asking if the last 6 years have been a decline?

Narrow, tunnelled vision again by the likes of Srb......

Imagine praising Hearts getting promoted out of the worst 2nd tier in Scottish football history as some badge of honour!

I really despair for future generations of Hearts supporters if Srb and his kin are the way forward.


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[Agentjambo]

1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said:

 

Individual games are not the bigger picture. The league season is. 

Winning the league and being promoted is not embarrassing either. 

It is what we had to do in order to start our upward trajectory and reverse the last few years of decline. 

 

Should we not take promotion and decline it? 

Give it to Raith or Dundee instead? 

How embarrassed are you? 

 

Ridiculous. 

 

 

 

You really don’t get the bigger picture do you?

[kingantti1874]

Just now, Smith's right boot said:

 

Individual games are not the bigger picture. The league season is. 

Winning the league and being promoted is not embarrassing either. 

It is what we had to do in order to start our upward trajectory and reverse the last few years of decline. 

 

Should we not take promotion and decline it? 

Give it to Raith or Dundee instead? 

How embarrassed are you? 

 

Ridiculous. 

 

 

 

disagree, looking beyond the results at performances and individual games is the bigger picture.

 

this league is an absolute joke. The quality is embarrassing.  Play like this and we get relegated next season