Bazzas right boot Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: Bash on pal - you don’t like Scottish Government but you are way off the mark - I’m done replying to you There are a couple of posters intent on blaming the sg for how scottish football is run and trying to blame them for how we have been treated. It's astonishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micole Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 The SPFL and SFA are slowly starting to reek their revenge against Hearts, the only thing we can do as supporters is boycott all away grounds ( with a couple of exceptions) and cup games, the decision is as simple as that IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambomjm74 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: Bash on pal - you don’t like Scottish Government but you are way off the mark - I’m done replying to you I couldn’t care, they are doing their job . I worked in a policy team so understand this well and keen to add my thoughts. Not sure why people care the other way, no the Govts not to blame as they aren’t involved ? I’d hope they are involved and laying down strong rules to ensure min impact from the virus. Over riding is Hearts being shated again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husref musemic Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 the only reason I'll take a ticket is if it's next to the centre stand. We should lay siege to they b @stards in October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 It's a bit Hibs but if enough of us tweet and email the government telling them we're changing our vote, even if we ain't, it could reverse the decision. It would use the confusion caused about who's decision it was to cause a bit of friction between both parties. I doubt the government want any responsibility and the SPFL won't want sole responsibility. Worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Australis Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said: We mullered a lot of championship teams due to superior fitness before, we will do it again but with the added anger this time. A number of teams are due a real pasting. Yep, Robbie has to really make them feel hard done by. No easing up on any of them goals goals goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just emailed SPFL, do not expect a response, clearly Petrie and Doncaster at it and unlikely any Championship matches this season and Hobos given a bye to play Septic in Cup Final! Surely if any club should stop training it is those who clearly have breached the rules! Is this another go at Hearts? YES I AM A JAMBO! YOUR ACTIONS SPFL ARE A DISGRACE NO WONDER SCOTTISH FOOTBALL IS A LAUGHING STOCK. Perhaps Mr Doncaster himself can respond or is that not the SPFL way. Any response will be posted on JKB so I do not expect one. I hope Nicola shows you the red card sooner rather than later. HEARTS WILL ALWAYS SURVIVE WILL YOU? ALWAYS HEARTS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Taffin said: I'm not saying there was, we've two parties saying different things. I'm saying we'll know which is true based on whether that statement changes or not. If it's not accurate you can bet your bottom dollar they'll be made to change it. If what Leitch said is accurate then the Scottish Government didn't agree to the measures the SPFL/SFA came up with and we'll see that clarified imminently. I'm hoping it changes. I have written a lengthy email to the Scottish government, addressed to NS, to pass on as she sees fit. Made sure there was a mention of misogyny buried in the text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, WDJ87 said: Fair point so is it also fair to say because they are not training Hearts players can breach rules without any ramifications? No, that would not be fair to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said: There are a couple of posters intent on blaming the sg for how scottish football is run and trying to blame them for how we have been treated. It's astonishing. They are actually willingly assisting the SPFL/SFA in their corruption, by knowingly going along with their lies. All because of political prejudice. It is astonishing, you are quite correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, colinmaroon said: I have written a lengthy email to the Scottish government, addressed to NS, to pass on as she sees fit. Made sure there was a mention of misogyny buried in the text. Good on you. If the SFA statement proves to be false then I hope they are met with her full wrath!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphonseCapone Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Taffin said: If those itching to tell us it had nothing to do with the Scottish Government are correct I guess we'll find out soon enough as the below will either be publicly retracted or I'd guess a statement with a threat of legal action will follow: "The Joint Response Group today outlines a wide range of measures agreed with the Scottish Government to reinforce Scottish football’s commitment to public health and adherence to protocols." Note: a wide range of measure agreed with the Scottish Government. To be fair, that could be referring to the general measures they've released. I doubt Rod suggested specifically to the SG that they'll stop Hearts training. That part is in their little additional detail part. Pricks. Edited August 13, 2020 by AlphonseCapone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, colinmaroon said: Exactly! This is further compelling evidence of corruption in the SFA and strengthens the arguments that those on the respective boards should not be allowed to take decisions when they have a blatant self-interest. Hibs chairman stops Hearts training, despite government being satisfied with the quality of our measures to fight pandemic. If that is not a definition of corruption then I don't know what is. He is no longer Hibs chairman or even on the Hibs board he sold to Ron the Con along with Sir Tom. Petrie is a SFA blazer holder only nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornhillHearts Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Aaron's normally a pretty mild mannered wee dude, but he, like the rest of us is raging. A young lad can see the absolute shambles of a decision that our football administrators can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambomjm74 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: There are a couple of posters intent on blaming the sg for how scottish football is run and trying to blame them for how we have been treated. It's astonishing. That’s not what’s happening. Some posters are keen to point out this is a joint decision and others saying no as it makes the govt look bad. the key is that the SpFL and sfa should be looking at the club level details and so they are to blame. Not govt bashing, they are doing their job here and as they should !! god knows what’s going on in junior football right now..: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bret the Hitman Hearts Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 We should protest this (with social distancing measures in place, of course). Give the SPFL a real problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: It's a bit Hibs but if enough of us tweet and email the government telling them we're changing our vote, even if we ain't, it could reverse the decision. It would use the confusion caused about who's decision it was to cause a bit of friction between both parties. I doubt the government want any responsibility and the SPFL won't want sole responsibility. Worth a shot. Got an email address handy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: It's a bit Hibs but if enough of us tweet and email the government telling them we're changing our vote, even if we ain't, it could reverse the decision. It would use the confusion caused about who's decision it was to cause a bit of friction between both parties. I doubt the government want any responsibility and the SPFL won't want sole responsibility. Worth a shot. As stated above, just appeal to fairness, justice and against misogyny, plus the chairman of one club due to play them in a Cup semi-final hampering that teams chances. Nicola, it is corruption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, AlphonseCapone said: To be fair, that could be referring to the general measures they've released. I doubt Rod suggested specifically to the SG that they'll stop Hearts training. That part is in their little additional detail part. Pricks. Yeh, I'm fairly certain the SFA are intentionally misleading/misrepresenting but it's so blatant that if it's allowed to remain and without official comment from the SG then I can only assume it's correct and that Jason Leitch simply wasn't involved at that level of detail...which I wouldn't expect him to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, John Findlay said: He is no longer Hibs chairman or even on the Hibs board he sold to Ron the Con along with Sir Tom. Petrie is a SFA blazer holder only nowadays. Still blatantly obvious where his loyalty lies. Just add EX- to above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) WTAF, only just heard this. It makes absolutely no sense at all. You know, when it comes to the SPFL, I think about this incident a lot. https://youtu.be/Rp3H66chq4c Edited August 13, 2020 by Costanza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennant's 6's Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, colinmaroon said: I have written a lengthy email to the Scottish government, addressed to NS, to pass on as she sees fit. Made sure there was a mention of misogyny buried in the text. Good for you colin 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coatbridgejambo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, John Findlay said: He is no longer Hibs chairman or even on the Hibs board he sold to Ron the Con along with Sir Tom. Petrie is a SFA blazer holder only nowadays. Still hates the hearts with a passion though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly the Saltire Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 This could not be clearer for those try to blame our Scottish Government. “Hearts were already training. My understanding was that they wouldn't have to stop." Jason Leitch: SPFL and SFA stopped Hearts training - not the Scottish Government. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jason-leitch-spfl-and-sfa-stopped-hearts-training-not-scottish-government-2942000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: If a player breaches and then comes into training there is potential for him to pass it onto the rest of the players in his bubble. Then let’s stop all teams training. After all, the ones who have been allowed to play are the ones who have failed miserably to follow the guidelines. Shut it all down now, before one of them, inevitably, breaches the rules again. No point in stopping teams who haven’t even been training yet, and allowing the clowns who have been playing, to continue. That would be much more hazardous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: They are actually willingly assisting the SPFL/SFA in their corruption, by knowingly going along with their lies. All because of political prejudice. It is astonishing, you are quite correct. 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Hold on a second...if the SPFL/SFA/JRG statement says that clubs outwith the Premiership aren't permitted to return to training...we should be okay to continue training. Our 'return' was ages ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDJ87 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: No, that would not be fair to say. So if we are training or not makes no difference then. If a Hearts player contracts covid, no games get postponed. Stopping us from training safeguards nothing. It's ridiculous. Edited August 13, 2020 by WDJ87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: Footballers on the whole are as daft as each other. The fewer of them training the lower the likelihood of a breach. Sorry, but that’s a very lazy generalisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: There are a couple of posters intent on blaming the sg for how scottish football is run and trying to blame them for how we have been treated. It's astonishing. Utterly incredible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Whatever said: Got an email address handy? [email protected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, Boof said: Hold on a second...if the SPFL/SFA/JRG statement says that clubs outwith the Premiership aren't permitted to return to training...we should be okay to continue training. Our 'return' was ages ago. We’ve been specifically mentioned by name in their press release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, Rick Sanchez said: [email protected] Ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said: 😳 Thankfully they are in the minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly the Saltire Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rick Sanchez said: [email protected] 3 minutes ago, Fly the Saltire said: This could not be clearer for those try to blame our Scottish Government. “Hearts were already training. My understanding was that they wouldn't have to stop." Jason Leitch: SPFL and SFA stopped Hearts training - not the Scottish Government. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jason-leitch-spfl-and-sfa-stopped-hearts-training-not-scottish-government-2942000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: Then let’s stop all teams training. After all, the ones who have been allowed to play are the ones who have failed miserably to follow the guidelines. Shut it all down now, before one of them, inevitably, breaches the rules again. No point in stopping teams who haven’t even been training yet, and allowing the clowns who have been playing, to continue. That would be much more hazardous. I agree, mate. I think you will find if one more breach happens the whole thing will be shut down by NS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: Then let’s stop all teams training. After all, the ones who have been allowed to play are the ones who have failed miserably to follow the guidelines. Shut it all down now, before one of them, inevitably, breaches the rules again. No point in stopping teams who haven’t even been training yet, and allowing the clowns who have been playing, to continue. That would be much more hazardous. It doesn't make sense Premiership clubs are still being allowed to train if everything is so bad that lower league clubs can't start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambomjm74 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Fly the Saltire said: This could not be clearer for those try to blame our Scottish Government. “Hearts were already training. My understanding was that they wouldn't have to stop." Jason Leitch: SPFL and SFA stopped Hearts training - not the Scottish Government. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jason-leitch-spfl-and-sfa-stopped-hearts-training-not-scottish-government-2942000 What a mess ! no blame on the govt, he says he thought they should be ok to train.,, But the article mentions discussions with ministers. Either way, it doesn’t matter. The custodians of the game,SpFL and Sfa are the ones who Own this mess !! And are more than happy to F up Hearts at each step. This has to be war we won’t let go !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, Toxteth O'Grady said: Utterly incredible Tbh, giving the debates with these sorts nothing surprises me. It's a fair effort tho. I never even seen it coming. It's why I avoid the shed and deleted fb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Now there might be another way of looking at this. Maybe Doncaster and the SPFL are concerned about football integrity, ie, they think that it's totally unfair that Hearts can train three weeks before other Championship clubs. Aye? Honestly, the more you look at his the more F*****g ludicrous it becomes. Two Scottish clubs transgress. Neither is punished. All the other clubs currently in training quite legally are allowed to continue training... Except one... Hearts. What the **** is going on here. This decision alone should be cause for Hearts to challenge, again, the authority of Doncaster and his cronies. Just when you think that Scottish football couldn't get any more bloody stupid it promptly does. Seriously: a statement from the club is needed, maybe saying that they will encourage the supporters in any act of self denial, ie refraining from attending away games, whenever that becomes possible, while the current management structure of the SPFL is in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) The Scottish government agreed that a fit and proper response to the Aberdeen and Celtic farce was to punish lower league football yes? How is that in any way an appropriate action.. they are partly to blame - but clearly they have not understood hearts would be impacted , at best they have been played by the SPFL .. Made to look like arseholes. Let’s also not shy away from the fact they will not want to be seen punishing Celtic.. Edited August 13, 2020 by kingantti1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Whatever said: We’ve been specifically mentioned by name in their press release. We were? Sorry, then. Must've missed it in my attempts to catch up with the thread. Named us. Specifically. Wow...****ing wow. Well...they ain't gonna break me. 2 season tickets getting bought on Saturday. Edited August 13, 2020 by Boof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboNation Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Write to your local MSP too politicians will do anything to avoid the shit sticking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Fly the Saltire said: This could not be clearer for those try to blame our Scottish Government. “Hearts were already training. My understanding was that they wouldn't have to stop." Jason Leitch: SPFL and SFA stopped Hearts training - not the Scottish Government. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jason-leitch-spfl-and-sfa-stopped-hearts-training-not-scottish-government-2942000 It’s amazing the difficulty some are having with this, isn’t it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, gashauskis9 said: Sorry, but that’s a very lazy generalisation. Thats why I said on the whole. You will get some mature ones that understand the gravity of the situation. But the reality is footballers are like any young people, in all areas of society - they make mistakes, and can be reckless at times. I am sure we have all done things in our teens/20s that we regret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 You genuinely couldn't make this shit up. Aberdeen and Celtic players breach guidance.Hearts are punished. Had it been, say Peter Haring breaching you can guarantee they'd have deducted points or hammered the club not the player. It's beyond a ****** joke. They can't punish the teams because Celtic are involved. **** em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queensferryjambo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, CornhillHearts said: Aaron's normally a pretty mild mannered wee dude, but he, like the rest of us is raging. A young lad can see the absolute shambles of a decision that our football administrators can't. Top lad Aaron and his anger and frustration sum up how me and my Hearts supporting mates all feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Boof said: We we're? Sorry, then. Must've missed it in my attempts to catch up with the thread. Named us. Specifically. Wow...****ing wow. Well...they ain't gonna break me. 2 season tickets getting bought on Saturday. it is in the guidance or whatever nonsense they are calling it where they state glasgow city women can train due to their euro game this week but specifically mention us that we can not train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorinoJambo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Shafted again because of a Mhank and 8 sheep. The SPFL statement doesn't even mention the two scummy shitehawk clubs by name. They tell a blatant lie about SG involvement. We should refuse tickets for the semi, say we'll play without fans and not turn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, WDJ87 said: So if we are training or not makes no difference then. If a Hearts player contracts covid, no games get postponed. Stopping us from training safeguards nothing. It's ridiculous. Football is a contact sport so if a player contracts CV, and is in football training he is more likely to pass the virus on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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