JyTees Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: You need to put your football club before your political prejudices. If this was coming from ScotGov I’d be raging at them. As it is, it’s the JRG. **** being stupid enough to let them off the hook. Sad that you are happy to. Doncaster and Petrie are at the top of my list, but you can't tell me this has nothing to do with the SG. Did you read the statement? "...agreed with the Scottish Government". I think that would suggest they had an input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavySlaveJambo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, JyTees said: Doncaster and Petrie are at the top of my list, but you can't tell me this has nothing to do with the SG. Did you read the statement? "...agreed with the Scottish Government". I think that would suggest they had an input. Jason Leitch confirmed they Scot Gov has no issue with Hearts carrying on training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 In the rare moments when my anger subsides I am trying to take off my maroon specs and consider how the instruction to stop us training helps, supports or even makes it easier for Scottish Football to meet any of the objectives and requirements identified in their statement. Surely having a lower tier side proving week after week that they can meet the requirements, advice and protocols is a positive for Scottish football in its efforts to avoid a “red card”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 34 minutes ago, ramrod said: This has nothing to do with Covid and everything to do with us stealing a march on our competitors in the Championship, Jason Leitch has pretty much confirmed this by distancing the Scottish govt from the decision. Some Championship chairmen have complained about us being back in training guaranteed You may well be correct but can you only begin preseason training a set period before the league commences? If so I've never heard about it but if there is no time period then whose ****ing business is it when we start ours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambomjm74 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Beast Boy said: What do you mean? The Scottish Go we meant are doing their job. The Joint Response Group are the ones who have told us to stop training. Leitch has said he didn’t have a problem with us training. If that’s the case we tell them that we meet all govt policy and Leitch advice so we keep on training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bret the Hitman Hearts Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Quote We should definitely not do this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, JyTees said: Doncaster and Petrie are at the top of my list, but you can't tell me this has nothing to do with the SG. Did you read the statement? "...agreed with the Scottish Government". I think that would suggest they had an input. I would never vote for this government but i don't believe for one second it was their plan to stop footballers training outwith the teams that caused the problem in the first place. That is the JRGs interpretation of being told to by the government to ******* well do something about the mess you have created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, jambomjm74 said: Most industry decisions are run past the govt. esp when so public “yellow card”. not trying to hassle the Scot Gov. but not sure why it matters. the fault lies with Aberdeen and Celtic players and spfl response. Read it and stop your nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, JyTees said: Doncaster and Petrie are at the top of my list, but you can't tell me this has nothing to do with the SG. Did you read the statement? "...agreed with the Scottish Government". I think that would suggest they had an input. Leitch has stayed/insisted that it’s nothing to do with them. This is the SPFL/SFA. The statement you are quoting is from the JRG/Doncaster. Honestly, are you telling me you believe Doncaster/Petrie here? You are doing your club a disservice: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said: I don't think they can. They set out the guidelines and the JRG interpreted in a way that suited them. Yes But they must have a feeling of being used to disguise an attack on Hearts by people within the joke JRG group, who have acheived nothing positive in months of meetings. They lied by implication that the SG had made the request, which Jason Leach has clearly discounted. I fear a grander plot by Petrie and others to try to damage Hearts even more significantly by doing all they can to prevent a quick promotion back into the Premier League. The arbitration verdict was only the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm An Upstart Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Tweet @jasonLeitch and @NicolaSturgeon to get the SPFL & SFA Disbanded and shut the league down, Absolutely Raging at the cheek of those corrupt scumbags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambomjm74 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: Read it and stop your nonsense I read the evening news which talks about govt ministers and football governing body making the decision. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bret the Hitman Hearts said: We should definitely not do this Biological warfare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, JyTees said: Doncaster and Petrie are at the top of my list, but you can't tell me this has nothing to do with the SG. Did you read the statement? "...agreed with the Scottish Government". I think that would suggest they had an input. It is a blatant lie - read what Jason Leitch said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 If those itching to tell us it had nothing to do with the Scottish Government are correct I guess we'll find out soon enough as the below will either be publicly retracted or I'd guess a statement with a threat of legal action will follow: "The Joint Response Group today outlines a wide range of measures agreed with the Scottish Government to reinforce Scottish football’s commitment to public health and adherence to protocols." Note: a wide range of measure agreed with the Scottish Government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1964m Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 So wait a minute and think about this hearts and other teams outside the top flight do nothing wrong and get punished for it. Aberdeen and Celtic break the rule and nothing happens to them what a joke this is becoming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: This just reinforces my decision to put Hearts first and only. I will be putting NO money into the pockets of any other club in Scottish Football until Doncaster is gone from our game. Me to. This is the final straw. It's us v the world as far as I'm concerned. The world is currently leading 2-0 but it's nowhere near halftime yet. Not even sure I will relent when Doncaster goes. He will just be replaced by another puppet. Hate is a strong term but I absolutely hate our authorities and I hate hibernian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm An Upstart Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Forgot to add Lying Cheating ****ing to Corrupt Scumbags 1 minute ago, I'm An Upstart said: Tweet @jasonLeitch and @NicolaSturgeon to get the SPFL & SFA Disbanded and shut the league down, Absolutely Raging at the cheek of those corrupt scumbags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, jambomjm74 said: I read the evening news which talks about govt ministers and football governing body making the decision. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your story https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jason-leitch-insists-hearts-training-22518173.amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Taffin said: If those itching to tell us it had nothing to do with the Scottish Government are correct I guess we'll find out soon enough as the below will either be publicly retracted or I'd guess a statement with a threat of legal action will follow: "The Joint Response Group today outlines a wide range of measures agreed with the Scottish Government to reinforce Scottish football’s commitment to public health and adherence to protocols." Note: a wide range of measure agreed with the Scottish Government. It already has been publicly stated by Jason Leitch that there was no agreement to stop Hearts training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDJ87 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, JyTees said: Doncaster and Petrie are at the top of my list, but you can't tell me this has nothing to do with the SG. Did you read the statement? "...agreed with the Scottish Government". I think that would suggest they had an input. They are using the SG as a shield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, Toxteth O'Grady said: It is a blatant lie - read what Jason Leitch said The only caveat there, Justin Leach often says one thing and means another. Government just as likely to be responsible. As someone has mentioned our facilities are actually the best in Scotland. If you can provide the correct standard, that is all that matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, j1964m said: So wait a minute and think about this hearts and other teams outside the top flight do nothing wrong and get punished for it. Aberdeen and Celtic break the rule and nothing happens to them what a joke this is becoming its o my hearts being punished. We are the only ones training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, gashauskis9 said: Aye, because sending the Hearts squad home for two weeks will stop millionaire Celtic players having daytrips to Benidorm. Footballers on the whole are as daft as each other. The fewer of them training the lower the likelihood of a breach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboman9 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: Is this the best that they can do? Genuinely would love to witness Doncaster being attacked. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRING_BACK_MO_BERTHA Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 If 30 trialists with maroon tracksuits turned up at say Livingston’s training ground for the next 3 weeks, could spfl do anything about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, Sooperstar said: All for having a pop at Doncaster but I can't see anything there that would be aimed at us. I'll lend you my glasses! IT is as plain as the nose on your face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: The only caveat there, Justin Leach often says one thing and means another. Government just as likely to be responsible. As someone has mentioned our facilities are actually the best in Scotland. If you can provide the correct standard, that is all that matters Your first two lines - Utter bulls balls! Edited August 13, 2020 by colinmaroon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, jambomjm74 said: I read the evening news which talks about govt ministers and football governing body making the decision. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your story See my previous post. Leitch said that the “decision lies squarely with the SPFL” and that he didn’t believe the measures should “exclude Hearts from training”. Put the agenda away and open your eyes to what is happening here ffs. You and others of the same mind are actually helping these corrupt dicks get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambomjm74 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Toxteth O'Grady said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jason-leitch-insists-hearts-training-22518173.amp He didn’t know ... probably not top of his list. He probably doesn’t give a monkeys about Hearts ... This would be way below his policy making or involvement. The SpFL would be there to represent clubs and potential special club treatment. The evening news is clear that decisions made between ministers and football. As I stated previously, the SPFL are to blame 100% for our predicament not the govt. but from what I’ve read ministers were involved as I would have expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nookie Bear Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: Yes But they must have a feeling of being used to disguise an attack on Hearts by people within the joke JRG group, who have acheived nothing positive in months of meetings. They lied by implication that the SG had made the request, which Jason Leach has clearly discounted. I fear a grander plot by Petrie and others to try to damage Hearts even more significantly by doing all they can to prevent a quick promotion back into the Premier League. The arbitration verdict was only the beginning. Hard to argue with that. This is all leading up to the Championship being mothballed for a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Does anyone know if any Lower League club was planning to start training before 24th August apart from us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: I set it up, you slot it home, John. I feel a statement coming on..... Statement is that what you call a trouser bulge nowadays.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: The only caveat there, Justin Leach often says one thing and means another. Government just as likely to be responsible. As someone has mentioned our facilities are actually the best in Scotland. If you can provide the correct standard, that is all that matters It couldn’t be clearer Leitch said on BBC Radio Scotland: "These are matters for the SPFL, we didn't tell them what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: The only caveat there, Justin Leach often says one thing and means another. Government just as likely to be responsible. As someone has mentioned our facilities are actually the best in Scotland. If you can provide the correct standard, that is all that matters Absolute horseshit mate. FFS... I don’t even think you believe that shit yourself. At least I hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, kingantti1874 said: Yeah that’s why the government said no new clubs. Stopping hearts is vindictive SG also said they are on a “yellow card” so they cannot afford any more breaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 The whole thing is disgusting. I hope to god I never see Doncaster or Petrie ever. Rage doesn’t come close to how I am feeling regarding this. Punish us because of these Aberdeen / Celtic* wanks. i absolutely detest Scottish Football. Any Hearts fan even thinking of going and putting their maroon £ in any other clubs pocket (except the very select few) need to get a grip. I actually hope that there is another case of an arsehole breaking the rules and the whole SPL gets canned. Fek them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDJ87 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, TheOak88 said: Footballers on the whole are as daft as each other. The fewer of them training the lower the likelihood of a breach. Neither of the breaches had anything to do with training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambomjm74 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, Beast Boy said: See my previous post. Leitch said that the “decision lies squarely with the SPFL” and that he didn’t believe the measures should “exclude Hearts from training”. Put the agenda away and open your eyes to what is happening here ffs. You and others of the same mind are actually helping these corrupt dicks get away with it. No. The blame lies 100% with the SPFL and this is scandalous and we “Hearts” shouldn’t take this lying down. Ministers wouldn’t give a jot about Hearts - only health policy. it is the SpFL and SFA continuing a campaign to hurt Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, jambomjm74 said: He didn’t know ... probably not top of his list. He probably doesn’t give a monkeys about Hearts ... This would be way below his policy making or involvement. The SpFL would be there to represent clubs and potential special club treatment. The evening news is clear that decisions made between ministers and football. As I stated previously, the SPFL are to blame 100% for our predicament not the govt. but from what I’ve read ministers were involved as I would have expected. Bash on pal - you don’t like Scottish Government but you are way off the mark - I’m done replying to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, SectionDJambo said: It already has been publicly stated by Jason Leitch that there was no agreement to stop Hearts training. I'm not saying there was, we've two parties saying different things. I'm saying we'll know which is true based on whether that statement changes or not. If it's not accurate you can bet your bottom dollar they'll be made to change it. If what Leitch said is accurate then the Scottish Government didn't agree to the measures the SPFL/SFA came up with and we'll see that clarified imminently. I'm hoping it changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, WDJ87 said: Neither of the breaches had anything to do with training. If a player breaches and then comes into training there is potential for him to pass it onto the rest of the players in his bubble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo in Bathgate Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, upgotheheads said: This just reinforces my decision to put Hearts first and only. I will be putting NO money into the pockets of any other club in Scottish Football until Doncaster is gone from our game. Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmaroon Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, Beast Boy said: See my previous post. Leitch said that the “decision lies squarely with the SPFL” and that he didn’t believe the measures should “exclude Hearts from training”. Put the agenda away and open your eyes to what is happening here ffs. You and others of the same mind are actually helping these corrupt dicks get away with it. Exactly! This is further compelling evidence of corruption in the SFA and strengthens the arguments that those on the respective boards should not be allowed to take decisions when they have a blatant self-interest. Hibs chairman stops Hearts training, despite government being satisfied with the quality of our measures to fight pandemic. If that is not a definition of corruption then I don't know what is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musemic Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 The players should all turn up for training in Neil Doncaster masks and wearing Celtic strips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, AllyjamboDerbyshire said: While letting the clubs already proven to be unable to control their players to not only train within their bubble, but to mix with the players of other clubs on the football field? What is the rationale behind this? Do they/you believe a football player is more likely to break the rules/go to the pub if he is training than if he is not? They cannot afford to stop the top flight season. So unfortunately it’s not viable to completely stop Aberdeen and Celtic training. The season is already underway. Ours is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDJ87 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, TheOak88 said: If a player breaches and then comes into training there is potential for him to pass it onto the rest of the players in his bubble. Fair point so is it also fair to say because they are not training Hearts players can breach rules without any ramifications? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo_4_eva Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 minute ago, jambomjm74 said: No. The blame lies 100% with the SPFL and this is scandalous and we “Hearts” shouldn’t take this lying down. Ministers wouldn’t give a jot about Hearts - only health policy. it is the SpFL and SFA continuing a campaign to hurt Hearts. ***loophole I just thought off. Buy amateur side in England for a small fee. Loan whole team to English team for next couple of months. Nothing sfa or spl can do about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinkster Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 As previously stated. Enjoy your away games lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb1958 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 34 minutes ago, tightrope said: Aye and we have to play a cup semi with a different team against a fully prepared opposition, gid yin **** their cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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