Covid protocols - ‘Govt money wanted’

[ford donald]

1 hour ago, Mid Calder Jambo said:

Quarantine Parkhead forever.

 

If this was a Hearts player, they would have been down on us like a ton of bricks.

[davieholt]

28 minutes ago, Saint Jambo said:

 

When you say no deaths for weeks. The last week for which data is available is week ending 2nd August. In that week 7 COVID-19 deaths were registered in Scotland.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

 

As Weakened Offender has pointed out the reason the rates are so low is because of the ongoing restrictions.

 

I can totally understand people being sick of it and wanting to get back to watching Hearts, who doesn't. But it is just wishful thinking to believe that the virus has magically disappeared and we can all go back to living a normal life. Football will continue to be disrupted for some time. Apart from anything else there is a fairly wide belief amongst scientists that the virus is very likely to be seasonal. Almost all viruses are seasonal, but the season varies. In the case of COVID-19 it hasn't been around for a full year and because of the way it has been spreading it is hard to say for sure at this stage, but the closest other viruses are all viruses that increase in winter. Because of what the medical profession have learned about managing the virus, an increase in cases in the winter might not require us to go back to full 'lock-down', but it may require re-imposing some restrictions.

 

For what it's worth an article in this week's New Scientist suggests that Covid 19 may not, in fact, be seasonal.

[TyphoonJambo]

5 minutes ago, August Landmesser said:

Apologies for putting this here, but Celtic have released a statement;

 

 

"CELTIC Football Club unreservedly condemns and apologises for the behaviour of the player Boli Bolingoli in travelling to Spain without informing the club and in failing to observe quarantine restrictions.

It is difficult to imagine a more irresponsible action in current circumstances and we find it beyond explanation. The Club will take immediate action through our own disciplinary procedures.

Celtic are in touch with every SPFL club today, and with all relevant authorities, to apologise for the fact that one of our employees has created so much additional difficulty through his actions.

All of our playing and backroom staff have been tested twice for Covid-19 since this incident and all, including the player in question, have tested negative. While this comes as a relief to all concerned, it in no way diminishes the seriousness or stupidity of the player’s actions.

Since the Covid -19 crisis began, we have had a safe and healthy squad of players, recording not one positive test. As a club, we have worked tirelessly to ensure a sustained, safe environment for all.   

We have led the way in working with the football authorities and Scottish Government to establish the most rigorous, effective protocols and working practices, which ultimately led to the resumption of football. We could have done no more in this area.

It is a matter of the deepest regret to us that the behaviour of one individual has jeopardised that reputation and reflected discredit on football more generally."

 

They sound fewmin'

 

Will it be enough to mollify the SG?

Strong words aside and negative test results aside. 14 days quarantine for him and 10 for anyone he's been in contact with. Are those not the protocols? If so, are there footballing exemptions? 

[JackLadd]

Thought they'd be announcing his termination. Disciplinary procedures surely shouldn't detain them long. 

[gashauskis9]

8 minutes ago, August Landmesser said:

Apologies for putting this here, but Celtic have released a statement;

 

 

"CELTIC Football Club unreservedly condemns and apologises for the behaviour of the player Boli Bolingoli in travelling to Spain without informing the club and in failing to observe quarantine restrictions.

It is difficult to imagine a more irresponsible action in current circumstances and we find it beyond explanation. The Club will take immediate action through our own disciplinary procedures.

Celtic are in touch with every SPFL club today, and with all relevant authorities, to apologise for the fact that one of our employees has created so much additional difficulty through his actions.

All of our playing and backroom staff have been tested twice for Covid-19 since this incident and all, including the player in question, have tested negative. While this comes as a relief to all concerned, it in no way diminishes the seriousness or stupidity of the player’s actions.

Since the Covid -19 crisis began, we have had a safe and healthy squad of players, recording not one positive test. As a club, we have worked tirelessly to ensure a sustained, safe environment for all.   

We have led the way in working with the football authorities and Scottish Government to establish the most rigorous, effective protocols and working practices, which ultimately led to the resumption of football. We could have done no more in this area.

It is a matter of the deepest regret to us that the behaviour of one individual has jeopardised that reputation and reflected discredit on football more generally."

 

They sound fewmin'

 

Will it be enough to mollify the SG?

“We could have done no more in this area” - how about 

a) not giving players 4 days off during the week, or

b)asking the prick when he returned to training where he went for his days off?

[BelgeJambo]

3 minutes ago, gashauskis9 said:

“We could have done no more in this area” - how about 

a) not giving players 4 days off during the week, or

b)asking the prick when he returned to training where he went for his days off?

Simple

They are the untouchables 

[Anything2]

14 minutes ago, August Landmesser said:

Apologies for putting this here, but Celtic have released a statement;

 

 

"CELTIC Football Club unreservedly condemns and apologises for the behaviour of the player Boli Bolingoli in travelling to Spain without informing the club and in failing to observe quarantine restrictions.

It is difficult to imagine a more irresponsible action in current circumstances and we find it beyond explanation. The Club will take immediate action through our own disciplinary procedures.

Celtic are in touch with every SPFL club today, and with all relevant authorities, to apologise for the fact that one of our employees has created so much additional difficulty through his actions.

All of our playing and backroom staff have been tested twice for Covid-19 since this incident and all, including the player in question, have tested negative. While this comes as a relief to all concerned, it in no way diminishes the seriousness or stupidity of the player’s actions.

Since the Covid -19 crisis began, we have had a safe and healthy squad of players, recording not one positive test. As a club, we have worked tirelessly to ensure a sustained, safe environment for all.   

We have led the way in working with the football authorities and Scottish Government to establish the most rigorous, effective protocols and working practices, which ultimately led to the resumption of football. We could have done no more in this area.

It is a matter of the deepest regret to us that the behaviour of one individual has jeopardised that reputation and reflected discredit on football more generally."

 

They sound fewmin'

 

Will it be enough to mollify the SG?

Actually quite an appropriate statement for once. Was expecting them to ignore it officially and use their media contacts to downplay the seriousness of the incident so fair play. 

[Jeff]

Just now, Anything2 said:

Actually quite an appropriate statement for once. Was expecting them to ignore it officially and use their media contacts to downplay the seriousness of the incident so fair play. 

 

Probably easier given that he's a useless bench warmer.

 

If it was Édouard it would be interesting

[Toxteth O'Grady]

17 minutes ago, August Landmesser said:

Apologies for putting this here, but Celtic have released a statement;

 

 

"CELTIC Football Club unreservedly condemns and apologises for the behaviour of the player Boli Bolingoli in travelling to Spain without informing the club and in failing to observe quarantine restrictions.

It is difficult to imagine a more irresponsible action in current circumstances and we find it beyond explanation. The Club will take immediate action through our own disciplinary procedures.

Celtic are in touch with every SPFL club today, and with all relevant authorities, to apologise for the fact that one of our employees has created so much additional difficulty through his actions.

All of our playing and backroom staff have been tested twice for Covid-19 since this incident and all, including the player in question, have tested negative. While this comes as a relief to all concerned, it in no way diminishes the seriousness or stupidity of the player’s actions.

Since the Covid -19 crisis began, we have had a safe and healthy squad of players, recording not one positive test. As a club, we have worked tirelessly to ensure a sustained, safe environment for all.   

We have led the way in working with the football authorities and Scottish Government to establish the most rigorous, effective protocols and working practices, which ultimately led to the resumption of football. We could have done no more in this area.

It is a matter of the deepest regret to us that the behaviour of one individual has jeopardised that reputation and reflected discredit on football more generally."

 

They sound fewmin'

 

Will it be enough to mollify the SG?

Just words to try to placate the government. Clearly bollocks when their manager said that Griffiths holding a party at his house wasn’t a big issue.  

[StirlingJambo]

The games that Celtic and Aberdeen have to miss due to quarantine, the opposition should get the 3-0 win. There should be no re-arranged games as it could be unfair to the team that has been following the rules. Aberdeen for example, there game against St.Johnstone been moved which will suit them as they’ll have their main striker back. Their on fault if they can’t field a team.

[Shanks]

‘We could not have done more’ 

 

 

Always the victims.

[Beast Boy]

19 minutes ago, Zico said:

Aye they ****ing led the way alright. Led to us getting expelled from the league. 

The bit that jumped out for me too. Celtic, the saviours of Scottish Football.

[Footballfirst]

15 minutes ago, JackLadd said:

Thought they'd be announcing his termination. Disciplinary procedures surely shouldn't detain them long. 

 

[gashauskis9]

Some mallet on Twitter saying Bolingoli might have not known he had to quarantine because the arrivals information at Glasgow airport is poor 😂😂😂

 

Offended by everything, ashamed of nothing!

[Ray Gin]

26 minutes ago, August Landmesser said:

Apologies for putting this here, but Celtic have released a statement;

 

 

"CELTIC Football Club unreservedly condemns and apologises for the behaviour of the player Boli Bolingoli in travelling to Spain without informing the club and in failing to observe quarantine restrictions.

It is difficult to imagine a more irresponsible action in current circumstances and we find it beyond explanation. The Club will take immediate action through our own disciplinary procedures.

Celtic are in touch with every SPFL club today, and with all relevant authorities, to apologise for the fact that one of our employees has created so much additional difficulty through his actions.

All of our playing and backroom staff have been tested twice for Covid-19 since this incident and all, including the player in question, have tested negative. While this comes as a relief to all concerned, it in no way diminishes the seriousness or stupidity of the player’s actions.

Since the Covid -19 crisis began, we have had a safe and healthy squad of players, recording not one positive test. As a club, we have worked tirelessly to ensure a sustained, safe environment for all.   

We have led the way in working with the football authorities and Scottish Government to establish the most rigorous, effective protocols and working practices, which ultimately led to the resumption of football. We could have done no more in this area.

It is a matter of the deepest regret to us that the behaviour of one individual has jeopardised that reputation and reflected discredit on football more generally."

 

They sound fewmin'

 

Will it be enough to mollify the SG?

 

Decent statement by them for a change to be fair. Now give them a fine and point deduction.

 

[Shanks said no]

2 minutes ago, Shanks said:

‘We could not have done more’ 

 

 

Always the victims.

Well apart from knowing where one of your players had jetted off to for 4 days

 

lying scum and twits

[Beast Boy]

1 minute ago, gashauskis9 said:

Some mallet on Twitter saying Bolingoli might have not known he had to quarantine because the arrivals information at Glasgow airport is poor 😂😂😂

 

Offended by everything, ashamed of nothing!

Always thought those arrival boards were Hunnish.

 

[gashauskis9]

1 minute ago, Beast Boy said:

Always thought those arrival boards were Hunnish.

 

😂😂😂

[Gordon Ramsay]

Highly enjoyable watching Celtic squirm.

[JackLadd]

6 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

 

 

[redjambo]

So where's the immediate two week quarantine that Bolingoli should *now* undertake, or does that not count if you delay it a few days and apologise for it?

 

Scottish football stinks.

Edited August 11, 2020 by redjambo

[JKBMod 3]

If you want to discuss how well/bad the UK/Scottish governments are handling the pandemic, or whether there is indeed a pandemic or not, then take it to the Shed!!

[john thomas]

13 minutes ago, The Frenchman Returns said:

Well apart from knowing where one of your players had jetted off to for 4 days

 

lying scum and twits

Is it not strange that a player has 4 days off ?

[complete control]

13 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Decent statement by them for a change to be fair. Now give them a fine and point deduction.

 

The scum laugh at all the fines they get. 

[Jambo61]

30 minutes ago, BelgeJambo said:

Simple

They are the untouchables 

They most certainly are now along with Aberdeen!

[Jambo61]

3 minutes ago, john thomas said:

Is it not strange that a player has 4 days off ?

He did well not to post to social media during his jaunt!

[Back to 2005]

Will the whole squad have to self isolate for 14 days and Celtic will therefore have to withdraw from the champions league? 

[Jambo61]

Just now, Back to 2005 said:

Will the whole squad have to self isolate for 14 days and Celtic will therefore have to withdraw from the champions league? 

Depends......are they playing in Spain?

[David Black]

My God , the untouchables at Celtic have actually had to issue an apology admitting one of their own was an idiot. Oh the times they are a changing. They must have squirmed having to issue that. 

[jambokev]

Celtic raging cos Boli has been a silly Billy. Doncaster raging cos he has to make up something to excuse them.

[Seymour M Hersh]

I wonder if Liewell is still pushing for fans to be let back into darkheid by September? 

[jamboinglasgow]

8 minutes ago, David Black said:

My God , the untouchables at Celtic have actually had to issue an apology admitting one of their own was an idiot. Oh the times they are a changing. They must have squirmed having to issue that. 

 

I think they are trying to push Boli as much as possible under the bus (not that he doesn't deserve massive scorn) in the hope that it can be seen as all Boli's fault and Celtic did all they can. As if it is shown that Celtic were complicit in any of this then there could be even bigger punishment.

[brux]

10 minutes ago, David Black said:

My God , the untouchables at Celtic have actually had to issue an apology admitting one of their own was an idiot. Oh the times they are a changing. They must have squirmed having to issue that. 

Only done to try to appease the scottish govt

[Dazo]

24 minutes ago, redjambo said:

So where's the immediate two week quarantine that Bolingoli should *now* undertake, or does that not count if you delay it a few days and apologise for it?

 

Scottish football stinks.

That horse has bolted and since he and the rest of the squad have tested negative I only imagine quarantine is an issue. 

[Footballfirst]

If Celtic is unable to play their CL qualifier next week, then they will have to forfeit the tie, according to UEFA rules.

[Fxxx the SPFL]

Just now, Footballfirst said:

If Celtic is unable to play their CL qualifier next week, then they will have to forfeit the tie, according to UEFA rules.

brilliant if true FF

[MarkDevriesScores4]

So from Celtic’s statement, it’s clear by saying that they done everything they could, they never knew that their player was going to Spain or had come back from Spain. No one at the club at all knew he was in Spain. Smells like lies. They’re only chastising the player now because he’s been caught.

[Marvin]

I take it the GPL has not been cancelled because Celtic aren't top yet?

[Beast Boy]

5 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

 

I think they are trying to push Boli as much as possible under the bus (not that he doesn't deserve massive scorn) in the hope that it can be seen as all Boli's fault and Celtic did all they can. As if it is shown that Celtic were complicit in any of this then there could be even bigger punishment.

I think they’d probably be happy to sack him and cut their losses.

[Bull's-eye]

Nothing will happen.

 

It never does.

 

Nobodies interested.

[Lovecraft]

Just now, Bull's-eye said:

Nothing will happen.

 

It never does.

 

Nobodies interested.

 

Celtic's CL opponents will be.

 

 

[Footballfirst]

3 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said:

brilliant if true FF

From the Wiki entry for the Champions League 2020/21

Effects of the COVID-19 pandemic[edit]

Due to the COVID-19 pandemic in Europe, the following special rules are applicable to the qualifying phase and play-offs:^[38]

• Prior to each draw, UEFA will publish the list of known travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic. All teams must inform UEFA if there are other existing restrictions other than those published. If a team fails to do so which as a consequence the match cannot take place, the team is considered responsible and to have forfeited the match.
• If travel restrictions imposed by the home team's country prevent the away team from entering, the home team must propose an alternative venue that allows the match to take place without any restrictions. Otherwise they are considered to have forfeited the match.
• If travel restrictions imposed by the away team's country prevent the away team from leaving or returning, the home team must propose an alternative venue that allows the match to take place without any restrictions. Otherwise UEFA will decide on a venue.
• If after the draw, new restrictions imposed by either the home team's or away team's country prevent the match from taking place, the team of that country are considered to have forfeited the match.
• If either team refuses to play the match, they are considered to have forfeited the match. If both teams refuse to play or are responsible for a match not taking place, both teams are disqualified.
• If a team has players and/or officials tested positive for COVID-19 preventing them from playing the match before the deadline set by UEFA, they are considered to have forfeited the match.
• In all cases, the two teams may agree to play the match at the away team's country or at a neutral country, subject to UEFA's approval. UEFA has the final authority to decide on a venue for any match, or to reschedule any match if necessary.
• If, for any reason, the qualifying phase and play-offs cannot be completed before the deadline set by UEFA, UEFA will decide on the principles for determining the teams qualified for the group stage.

Edited August 11, 2020 by Footballfirst

[the jambo poet]

How many holidays do players get? They've only just returned to playing? Surely, all the players don't get 4 days off when there's games on. Surely, Septic knew he wasn't around. 

[davemclaren]

Just now, Footballfirst said:

From the Wiki entry for the Champions league

Effects of the COVID-19 pandemic[edit]

Due to the COVID-19 pandemic in Europe, the following special rules are applicable to the qualifying phase and play-offs:^[38]

• Prior to each draw, UEFA will publish the list of known travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic. All teams must inform UEFA if there are other existing restrictions other than those published. If a team fails to do so which as a consequence the match cannot take place, the team is considered responsible and to have forfeited the match.
• If travel restrictions imposed by the home team's country prevent the away team from entering, the home team must propose an alternative venue that allows the match to take place without any restrictions. Otherwise they are considered to have forfeited the match.
• If travel restrictions imposed by the away team's country prevent the away team from leaving or returning, the home team must propose an alternative venue that allows the match to take place without any restrictions. Otherwise UEFA will decide on a venue.
• If after the draw, new restrictions imposed by either the home team's or away team's country prevent the match from taking place, the team of that country are considered to have forfeited the match.
• If either team refuses to play the match, they are considered to have forfeited the match. If both teams refuse to play or are responsible for a match not taking place, both teams are disqualified.
• If a team has players and/or officials tested positive for COVID-19 preventing them from playing the match before the deadline set by UEFA, they are considered to have forfeited the match.
• In all cases, the two teams may agree to play the match at the away team's country or at a neutral country, subject to UEFA's approval. UEFA has the final authority to decide on a venue for any match, or to reschedule any match if necessary.
• If, for any reason, the qualifying phase and play-offs cannot be completed before the deadline set by UEFA, UEFA will decide on the principles for determining the teams qualified for the group stage.

Celtic sweating. 

[John Findlay]

4 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

If Celtic is unable to play their CL qualifier next week, then they will have to forfeit the tie, according to UEFA rules.

FF, you know as well as I do that Peter Lawell will be doing his damndest to make sure this does not happen. Far to much money involved here for them.

Let's hope that those in authority tell  him to stow his tits and wind his neck in.

[jamboinglasgow]

3 minutes ago, Beast Boy said:

I think they’d probably be happy to sack him and cut their losses.

 

I'm sure they would love to, though I imagine he would get a pay out for being sacked and with 3 years left on his contract it wont be cheap.

[John Findlay]

2 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Celtic sweating. 

Bigtime, Lawell will be attempting to twist arms all over the place.

[Beast Boy]

3 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Celtic sweating. 

Ew... they better email their fans again to remind them to wash.

[Beast Boy]

1 minute ago, jamboinglasgow said:

 

I'm sure they would love to, though I imagine he would get a pay out for being sacked and with 3 years left on his contract it wont be cheap.

Serious misconduct, I would have thought.

[Gizmo]

6 minutes ago, MarkDevriesScores4 said:

So from Celtic’s statement, it’s clear by saying that they done everything they could, they never knew that their player was going to Spain or had come back from Spain. No one at the club at all knew he was in Spain. Smells like lies. They’re only chastising the player now because he’s been caught.

How was he not in training? This is bullshit, some clubs are simply not taking this seriously and the only way to make them is to forfeit the 3 points for each game that has to be postponed. After all, we were told there was NO wriggle room for delayed games at the start of this season.