Maiden Gorgie Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Reekonstrucktion come end of season as Scotland is left with 5 full time professional clubs plus Hibs invited on a 'play if you're clean' basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Lennon is getting confused. What the players do to be safe has nothing to do with letting fans in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2205ian Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, davemclaren said: Now, this is entitlement on display. 😎 Celtic: Neil Lennon hopes fans back for first Old Firm derby https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54120453 Sums Lennon up.........the guy is thick as mince & that's being kind to him. West of Scotland as near as possible getting back to lockdown & he expects thousands at Darkhead. No doubt, Liewell & his donkey will be backing Lenny's plan with a plea to Nippy Sweetie in the press tomorrow! On second thoughts, just let them have a full house & heard them up after the final whistle before dumping them on St Kilda for a fortnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandjambo3 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, 2205ian said: Sums Lennon up.........the guy is thick as mince & that's being kind to him. West of Scotland as near as possible getting back to lockdown & he expects thousands at Darkhead. No doubt, Liewell & his donkey will be backing Lenny's plan with a plea to Nippy Sweetie in the press tomorrow! On second thoughts, just let them have a full house & heard them up after the final whistle before dumping them on St Kilda for a fortnight.............. ...........then calling in the RAF for a live bombing run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 23 hours ago, Mikey1874 said: Peter Lawwell's power limited it seems after all Just wait until they start blaming the rise in domestic abuse in mid October on the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 The matter of playing teams not testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Barack said: Israel has gone back into Nationwide lockdown. Wonder how that affects the Scotland tie now. We’ll be in national lockdown next week as well. All sport to be postponed except the OF game based on its traditional importance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 37 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: The matter of playing teams not testing. Doncaster and Petre currently on a Zoom call discussing how they can get Hearts to pay for the tests of all their opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, Barack said: Israel has gone back into Nationwide lockdown. Wonder how that affects the Scotland tie now. Few farmers in the West Bank will welcome this news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 On 11/09/2020 at 12:46, manaliveits105 said: Hopefully allowed back by following old firm game at Ibrox - the victims will self combust No chance ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, Barack said: Israel has gone back into Nationwide lockdown. Wonder how that affects the Scotland tie now. It will be played on neutral ground. I have no information to back that up except it has been done before. Same for the Aberdeen game, they have hapoel beer sheeva in europa league next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 They wont stop the premier league they cant afford to do it plus they are testing. I am living in real fear that they decide to mothball our league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewB Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, HMFC01 said: It will be played on neutral ground. I have no information to back that up except it has been done before. Same for the Aberdeen game, they have hapoel beer sheeva in europa league next week. Motherwell are the ones involved rather than Aberdeen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewB Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, Barack said: Israel has gone back into Nationwide lockdown. Wonder how that affects the Scotland tie now. What they said a few days ago was that, as it was a 3 week lockdown, it would be OK for the game to go ahead (it's after 3 weeks I believe). Don't know if things have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, AndrewB said: Motherwell are the ones involved rather than Aberdeen. Woops ☺ thank you 👍 yeah Aberdeen have sporting Lisbon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, Rods said: They wont stop the premier league they cant afford to do it plus they are testing. I am living in real fear that they decide to mothball our league. Only teams that are prepared to test should play. Us and one or two other teams play for the promotion spot. ☺️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, Barack said: While Nations were literally shut? It's been (or seems like so long ago) I'm a bit hazy on the neutral thing. Weren't those games played as restrictions were being eased? Like I say, I've genuinely forgotten. Iam thinking primarily about the champions league last season. I can't remember if nations played neutral. I mean they have for friendlies. We will see what happens next week with Motherwell v beer sheeva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 54 minutes ago, Rods said: They wont stop the premier league they cant afford to do it plus they are testing. I am living in real fear that they decide to mothball our league. What worries me is that the continued rise in COVID cases will result in lower league competitions being cancelled. With the furlough scheme coming to an end many clubs will demise. Hearts are presently in the wrong place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, HMFC01 said: It will be played on neutral ground. I have no information to back that up except it has been done before. Same for the Aberdeen game, they have hapoel beer sheeva in europa league next week. Play it in the Gaza Strip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewB Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, Tasavallan said: What worries me is that the continued rise in COVID cases will result in lower league competitions being cancelled. With the furlough scheme coming to an end many clubs will demise. Hearts are presently in the wrong place. We need to be ready for the coming row then. I'd like to see lots of clubs go under; they can come back in the Juniors, Lowland League whatever, but there are loads who need liquidated out of the professional set-up. If it's in the leagues below us, it needn't be a factor in anything in the top two divisions. Soooo, that takes us to what happens if a couple in the Championship start squealing for a suspension. Assuming we can get some football played this season BCD, the precedent has been set last season for curtailing the season and using PPG. We need to be top from the off and to stay top. I'd love at least one in the Premier to go into financial trouble. I don't particularly hate St J but if it is them, then they can, er, take their medicine. That creates a vacancy and we know that an odd number in the league was a no-no all round seemingly. We need to be ready for the SPFL pulling up the Premier drawbridge. Since Doncaster didn't get his extra powers, it is again up to the clubs. Maybe we do need to be smoothing the relationship with other boardrooms (not my preference but understandable). If it came down to it, I'd use arbitration and/or courts if it came to that. You're right, Tasavallan, that we are presently in the wrong place and that was at least half the reason why we fought against the expulsion because this scenario was not totally unforeseen. We must be prepared on the pitch (get top and stay top) and off the pitch (be on our mettle for another fight if need be). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, XB52 said: Play it in the Gaza Strip. I was thinking Cyprus but not sure their relations haven't melted either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, XB52 said: Play it in the Gaza Strip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Slightly off topic, but apart from the St Mirren game when lower-league teams hadn't started playing friendlies yet, are we only agreeing to play games v teams that DIDN'T vote to end the league???? East Fife, Falkirk and Partick lined up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo-in-furness Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, EarnockJambo said: Slightly off topic, but apart from the St Mirren game when lower-league teams hadn't started playing friendlies yet, are we only agreeing to play games v teams that DIDN'T vote to end the league???? East Fife, Falkirk and Partick lined up. Friendlies not only by name 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Tasavallan said: What worries me is that the continued rise in COVID cases will result in lower league competitions being cancelled. With the furlough scheme coming to an end many clubs will demise. Hearts are presently in the wrong place. I reckon there will be clubs folding anyway there is no chance of crowds in stadiums until January at the earliest. The lower league clubs will now be forced to play or forefite games. The SPFL board are going to jettison them at the earliest opportunity and us along with them unfortunately like you say. The SPFL board only care about the OF and the Sky love in for them the rest are just collaterall. The premier league teams will feel the pinch aswell if they have to continue testing to facilitate the OF bilefest. Little did they know when they were knocking back reconstruction( and laughing at us) they were actually Turkeys voting for Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tasavallan said: What worries me is that the continued rise in COVID cases will result in lower league competitions being cancelled. With the furlough scheme coming to an end many clubs will demise. Hearts are presently in the wrong place. We all knew this was a possibility and we were being demoted into a league that might not play. This was the whole basis of our court case (especially the large compensation claim) and push for reconstruction IMO. Before taking a vote on anything, the league should have asked every club to prove they can pay for testing and play without crowds for at least half a season, if not a whole season. All the clubs that said they could should have had a vote on what happens next with temporary reconstruction into leagues containing the clubs that can play being an obvious solution. The clubs that said they couldn't play should not have been allowed to vote on the future of clubs that can play. After that, the league should have worked together to provide financial help to clubs that can't play and have to mothball. As it is we have clubs that know, and have always known, that they wouldn't be able to pay for testing and to play without crowds, yet they were allowed to decide on the future of clubs that can. It's basically like drowning men taking the whole raft down with them. Edited September 18, 2020 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rods said: I reckon there will be clubs folding anyway there is no chance of crowds in stadiums until January at the earliest. The lower league clubs will now be forced to play or forefite games. The SPFL board are going to jettison them at the earliest opportunity and us along with them unfortunately like you say. The SPFL board only care about the OF and the Sky love in for them the rest are just collaterall. The premier league teams will feel the pinch aswell if they have to continue testing to facilitate the OF bilefest. Little did they know when they were knocking back reconstruction( and laughing at us) they were actually Turkeys voting for Christmas. That's the thing, they knew everything. They knew playing for an extended period without crowds was possible. They acted through pure spite - basically how some Hearts fans want us to act - for example all the clubs that voted on the basis that they didn't want Inverness Caley to benefit (or so some chairman said). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, ToqueJambo said: That's the thing, they knew everything. They knew playing for an extended period without crowds was possible. They acted through pure spite - basically how some Hearts fans want us to act - for example all the clubs that voted on the basis that they didn't want Inverness Caley to benefit (or so some chairman said). A lot of them only had short term thinking in mind others done it as they wanted to get at us/inverness. They will be forced to play I would imagine now inline with uefa guidance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 44 minutes ago, EarnockJambo said: Slightly off topic, but apart from the St Mirren game when lower-league teams hadn't started playing friendlies yet, are we only agreeing to play games v teams that DIDN'T vote to end the league???? East Fife, Falkirk and Partick lined up. And hopefully it continues for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Using the words Fan Return delayed here. Hearts are the victims of a hateful crew of wannabees. Fans are being punished, mentally worn down with the farce. Will Fans Return is a better way to put it on Kickback . The only thing some Jambos are wondering is Fan returns on season tickets they were seemingly misled over. Recent history says we will be lucky to see the team play other than on Hearts TV or if like me you manage to sneak in anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 All these spfl scumbags knew full well there was a good chance that lower leagues may not happen and couldnt care less in shafting us Thistle et al anyone who thinks there will not be years of hatred whether we play or not will be grossly mistaken - there will be consequences and revenge at every opportunity however long it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Barack said: Israel has gone back into Nationwide lockdown. Wonder how that affects the Scotland tie now. The Israeli FA spokesman said on BBC website a few days ago that it wouldn't/shouldn't be a problem , in his view. Sorry, can't be arsed looking for a link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchies75 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 SPFL STATEMENT SPFL ANNOUNCES COVID-19 TESTING PROTOCOLS FOR BETFRED CUP AND CHALLENGE CUP... At its meeting earlier today, the Board of the Scottish Professional Football League determined the Covid-19 testing regime that will be put in place for the Betfred Cup and the Challenge Cup this season. League matches At present, all Premiership clubs are obliged to carry out RT-PCR (swab) testing of their squad in the 168 hours prior to kick-off for a Premiership match, with results made available to the SPFL by midday two days prior to the match. These arrangements will continue. There remains no requirement for routine swab testing in relation to Championship, League 1 or League 2 matches. Betfred Cup In relation to the Betfred Cup, a number of lower division and non-SPFL (and therefore non-swab testing) clubs will play against Premiership (swab testing) clubs this season. To minimise the risk of transmission to Premiership players, any team drawn against a Premiership club in the Betfred Cup this season will be required to swab test their players in the 168-hour period prior to that Betfred Cup fixture, with results provided to the League by midday two days prior to the tie. As with Premiership league fixtures, any players who test positive would be required to self-isolate and would not be able to take part in the tie. If a club is unable or unwilling to field a team in a Betfred Cup Round 1 group stage tie, or fails to provide sufficient negative test results, the club concerned will forfeit the match (on the basis of a 3-0 defeat). Challenge Cup The SPFL’s Challenge Cup has, over its history, predominantly been a competition for the benefit of lower league clubs. It also noted that prize money in this competition is significantly less than for the Betfred Cup. As a result, the SPFL Board does not consider it reasonable to impose a requirement on clubs to have to swab test, if they are drawn against a Colt team in the Challenge Cup. However, the prospect of having their Colt team play against an untested team may concern Premiership clubs, due to the increased risk of transmission of Covid-19 into their playing ‘bubble’. The SPFL Board has therefore decided that: - for any tie not involving a Colt team, there will be no requirement to swab test - for any tie involving a Colt team, the Premiership club may elect for their opponent to have to swab test their squad in the 168 hours before kick-off, but at the cost of the Premiership club - Premiership clubs may elect not to enter a Colt team in the Challenge Cup this season As with the Betfred Cup, there is potential for a club not to (or not to be able to) play a tie. In these circumstances, the club concerned will forfeit the match, with their opponents automatically progressing to the next round. Neil Doncaster, chief executive of the SPFL said: “The enormous efforts SPFL clubs are going to is a sign of the sport’s determination to do everything humanly possible to mitigate the impact of Covid19. The very future of many of our clubs depends on this comprehensive suite of steps to which clubs are rigorously adhering. The fact that Premiership clubs will pay for Covid-19 tests to be carried out by lower league opponents in the Challenge Cup is very positive. Everyone in our game knows we are all in this together and the fact that the game as a whole is taking a very collegiate and mature approach augurs very well for the future.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Seems the cost of testing has persuaded the SPFL to let off the clubs. Should be saying a bit more though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 So another point. Loan players. Loans to lower league clubs generally involve the players continuing to train with Hearts. How will that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, ritchies75 said: SPFL STATEMENT SPFL ANNOUNCES COVID-19 TESTING PROTOCOLS FOR BETFRED CUP AND CHALLENGE CUP... At its meeting earlier today, the Board of the Scottish Professional Football League determined the Covid-19 testing regime that will be put in place for the Betfred Cup and the Challenge Cup this season. League matches At present, all Premiership clubs are obliged to carry out RT-PCR (swab) testing of their squad in the 168 hours prior to kick-off for a Premiership match, with results made available to the SPFL by midday two days prior to the match. These arrangements will continue. There remains no requirement for routine swab testing in relation to Championship, League 1 or League 2 matches. Betfred Cup In relation to the Betfred Cup, a number of lower division and non-SPFL (and therefore non-swab testing) clubs will play against Premiership (swab testing) clubs this season. To minimise the risk of transmission to Premiership players, any team drawn against a Premiership club in the Betfred Cup this season will be required to swab test their players in the 168-hour period prior to that Betfred Cup fixture, with results provided to the League by midday two days prior to the tie. As with Premiership league fixtures, any players who test positive would be required to self-isolate and would not be able to take part in the tie. If a club is unable or unwilling to field a team in a Betfred Cup Round 1 group stage tie, or fails to provide sufficient negative test results, the club concerned will forfeit the match (on the basis of a 3-0 defeat). Challenge Cup The SPFL’s Challenge Cup has, over its history, predominantly been a competition for the benefit of lower league clubs. It also noted that prize money in this competition is significantly less than for the Betfred Cup. As a result, the SPFL Board does not consider it reasonable to impose a requirement on clubs to have to swab test, if they are drawn against a Colt team in the Challenge Cup. However, the prospect of having their Colt team play against an untested team may concern Premiership clubs, due to the increased risk of transmission of Covid-19 into their playing ‘bubble’. The SPFL Board has therefore decided that: - for any tie not involving a Colt team, there will be no requirement to swab test - for any tie involving a Colt team, the Premiership club may elect for their opponent to have to swab test their squad in the 168 hours before kick-off, but at the cost of the Premiership club - Premiership clubs may elect not to enter a Colt team in the Challenge Cup this season As with the Betfred Cup, there is potential for a club not to (or not to be able to) play a tie. In these circumstances, the club concerned will forfeit the match, with their opponents automatically progressing to the next round. Neil Doncaster, chief executive of the SPFL said: “The enormous efforts SPFL clubs are going to is a sign of the sport’s determination to do everything humanly possible to mitigate the impact of Covid19. The very future of many of our clubs depends on this comprehensive suite of steps to which clubs are rigorously adhering. The fact that Premiership clubs will pay for Covid-19 tests to be carried out by lower league opponents in the Challenge Cup is very positive. Everyone in our game knows we are all in this together and the fact that the game as a whole is taking a very collegiate and mature approach augurs very well for the future.” Just mental they are doing this now, a few weeks before the start. No compulsory testing for lower leagues for league games but no guidelines is going to be chaos. We simply can't play. Our players will be risking their and their families health. There's no chance lower leagues are happening. I hope we sue them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: All these spfl scumbags knew full well there was a good chance that lower leagues may not happen and couldnt care less in shafting us Thistle et al anyone who thinks there will not be years of hatred whether we play or not will be grossly mistaken - there will be consequences and revenge at every opportunity however long it takes. And we're paying for testing while our competitors don't have to. What do Morton, Raith, etc joint response group and co have to say about that in terms of fairness? It's ****ing nonsensical. Why should we continue testing then? Because we're trying to do the right thing. Edited September 18, 2020 by ToqueJambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 The Premiership clubs that are complaining about having their players exposed to untested opponents are exactly the same Premiership clubs that are advocating the return of thousands of untested fans into their stadiums and risking the health of their own employees involved in various roles on turnstiles, catering, cleaning and security. It should be the Premiership clubs who should be forfeiting matches if they are unwilling to play against untested opponents. After all, the SFA and the JRG have already sanctioned adult and youth matches involving untested players. The Premiership players will still benefit from their regular testing regimes following any matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upgotheheads Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 "There remains no requirement for routine swab testing in relation to Championship, League 1 or League 2 matches." Chickens coming home to roost. It was said at the time that clubs could have been asked if they would be able to operate through a régime of testing, limited activity and reconstruction. Half the senior clubs in Scotland could have been put in to hibernation for a year if they had been supported financially, leaving those who could stand the cost making up a League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchies75 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 stephen.mcgowan @mcgowan_stephen Teams finishing bottom of a Betfred Cup group earn a minimum of £20k for taking part. Testing for two games against Premiership teams will cost roughly £3k. Ewan Murray @mrewanmurray 13m Replying to @mcgowan_stephen Could you play one game, forfeit the rest and “earn” £20k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 It's true that testing for players playing and training outdoors is relatively needless. Overall the risk is very low. A few hundred fans all close together trying to leave a ground indoors on the other hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: All these spfl scumbags knew full well there was a good chance that lower leagues may not happen and couldnt care less in shafting us Thistle et al anyone who thinks there will not be years of hatred whether we play or not will be grossly mistaken - there will be consequences and revenge at every opportunity however long it takes. And yet we keep loaning out our players...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie Boot boy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 hours ago, ritchies75 said: SPFL STATEMENT SPFL ANNOUNCES COVID-19 TESTING PROTOCOLS FOR BETFRED CUP AND CHALLENGE CUP... At its meeting earlier today, the Board of the Scottish Professional Football League determined the Covid-19 testing regime that will be put in place for the Betfred Cup and the Challenge Cup this season. League matches At present, all Premiership clubs are obliged to carry out RT-PCR (swab) testing of their squad in the 168 hours prior to kick-off for a Premiership match, with results made available to the SPFL by midday two days prior to the match. These arrangements will continue. There remains no requirement for routine swab testing in relation to Championship, League 1 or League 2 matches. Betfred Cup In relation to the Betfred Cup, a number of lower division and non-SPFL (and therefore non-swab testing) clubs will play against Premiership (swab testing) clubs this season. To minimise the risk of transmission to Premiership players, any team drawn against a Premiership club in the Betfred Cup this season will be required to swab test their players in the 168-hour period prior to that Betfred Cup fixture, with results provided to the League by midday two days prior to the tie. As with Premiership league fixtures, any players who test positive would be required to self-isolate and would not be able to take part in the tie. If a club is unable or unwilling to field a team in a Betfred Cup Round 1 group stage tie, or fails to provide sufficient negative test results, the club concerned will forfeit the match (on the basis of a 3-0 defeat). Challenge Cup The SPFL’s Challenge Cup has, over its history, predominantly been a competition for the benefit of lower league clubs. It also noted that prize money in this competition is significantly less than for the Betfred Cup. As a result, the SPFL Board does not consider it reasonable to impose a requirement on clubs to have to swab test, if they are drawn against a Colt team in the Challenge Cup. However, the prospect of having their Colt team play against an untested team may concern Premiership clubs, due to the increased risk of transmission of Covid-19 into their playing ‘bubble’. The SPFL Board has therefore decided that: - for any tie not involving a Colt team, there will be no requirement to swab test - for any tie involving a Colt team, the Premiership club may elect for their opponent to have to swab test their squad in the 168 hours before kick-off, but at the cost of the Premiership club - Premiership clubs may elect not to enter a Colt team in the Challenge Cup this season As with the Betfred Cup, there is potential for a club not to (or not to be able to) play a tie. In these circumstances, the club concerned will forfeit the match, with their opponents automatically progressing to the next round. Neil Doncaster, chief executive of the SPFL said: “The enormous efforts SPFL clubs are going to is a sign of the sport’s determination to do everything humanly possible to mitigate the impact of Covid19. The very future of many of our clubs depends on this comprehensive suite of steps to which clubs are rigorously adhering. The fact that Premiership clubs will pay for Covid-19 tests to be carried out by lower league opponents in the Challenge Cup is very positive. Everyone in our game knows we are all in this together and the fact that the game as a whole is taking a very collegiate and mature approach augurs very well for the future.” I think Hearts make the decision to invest and set up according to restriction rules etc. If a club is unable or unwilling to field a team in a Betfred Cup Round 1 group stage tie, or fails to provide sufficient negative test results, the club concerned will forfeit the match (on the basis of a 3-0 defeat). This part is for clubs who are skint and will more than likely forfeit the matches. So they are looking at defeat before they even start. The SPFL need to dip into their accounts and help out. The Sports minister should also be on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 5 hours ago, ToqueJambo said: We all knew this was a possibility and we were being demoted into a league that might not play. This was the whole basis of our court case (especially the large compensation claim) and push for reconstruction IMO. Before taking a vote on anything, the league should have asked every club to prove they can pay for testing and play without crowds for at least half a season, if not a whole season. All the clubs that said they could should have had a vote on what happens next with temporary reconstruction into leagues containing the clubs that can play being an obvious solution. The clubs that said they couldn't play should not have been allowed to vote on the future of clubs that can play. After that, the league should have worked together to provide financial help to clubs that can't play and have to mothball. As it is we have clubs that know, and have always known, that they wouldn't be able to pay for testing and to play without crowds, yet they were allowed to decide on the future of clubs that can. It's basically like drowning men taking the whole raft down with them. You have summed it up perfectly. It’s sickening. I just feckin hate everything connected to Scottish football, and the recent loans and ST/TV coverage incidents have got me (temporarily) pissed off with Hearts. ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Barack said: Israel has gone back into Nationwide lockdown. Wonder how that affects the Scotland tie now. Frankly I don’t give a FF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 3 hours ago, ritchies75 said: stephen.mcgowan @mcgowan_stephen Teams finishing bottom of a Betfred Cup group earn a minimum of £20k for taking part. Testing for two games against Premiership teams will cost roughly £3k. Ewan Murray @mrewanmurray 13m Replying to @mcgowan_stephen Could you play one game, forfeit the rest and “earn” £20k? Hold up, that's a fly one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, Cruickshank for Scotland said: You have summed it up perfectly. It’s sickening. I just feckin hate everything connected to Scottish football, and the recent loans and ST/TV coverage incidents have got me (temporarily) pissed off with Hearts. ☹️ I prefer to channel all my anger and bitterness to the real villains: the SPFL and SFA. And St Mirren obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Given what has been covered in today's SPFL statement and that Hearts operates a testing bubble, I'd be surprised if both East Fife (tonight) and Spartans (tomorrow) will have tested their squads within the last seven days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: Given what has been covered in today's SPFL statement and that Hearts operates a testing bubble, I'd be surprised if both East Fife (tonight) and Spartans (tomorrow) will have tested their squads within the last seven days. I thought clubs had to test if they played 11v11 (east fife are part of the spfl). What changed? I'll be surprised if Spartans (non-spfl club) can afford it. Unless we're paying for it. Edited September 18, 2020 by HMFC01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, HMFC01 said: I thought clubs had to test if they played 11v11. What changed? I'll be surprised if Spartans can afford it. Unless we're paying for it. I think that it changed last weekend as loads of friendlies have been played by LL, EOS and WOS sides in the past week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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