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6 hours ago, JackLadd said:

Salmond is probably sucking up the old Sheridan SSP vote. The crackpot ne'er-do-well popular front of Alb=ea.  

Bloody hell, a post by you that I actually agree with.

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11 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

Anyone seen the latest polls 

 

Alba forecast to win 6-8 seats 😂

The same pollsters had them the exact same weeks ago.

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https://sputniknews.com/uk/202103081082284132-snp-buried-sexual-harassment-claims-against-two-westminster-mps-says-staffer/

himself on the side of the couch," the whistle-blower said. “At that point, he started putting his fingers down the back of my collar, touching me inappropriately there. He was also grabbing my hair.”

The staff member said he did not initially report the incident as he was reluctant to go “head to head with an MP”, but after another individual raised the issue later he confirmed it to party officials.

Office Ambush

 

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Scottish National Party leader in Westminster MP Ian Blackford speaks during the weekly Prime Minister's Questions session in Parliament in London

The man said SNP Westminster leader Ian Blackford, a staunch supporter of party leader and Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, then called him to a meeting in his office — which he described as an "ambush".

“He calls me into the office and the other MP is sitting on the couch, crying,” the accuser related. After the MP tearfully apologised, he felt obliged to forgive him. “At that time. I felt the only thing I could say was that it was OK. I wasn’t going to tear this guy down in front of me. It was pretty hard for me to watch.”

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11 hours ago, gjcc said:


Maybe just so they know where to put the boards for the open air orchestra festival. ::troll::

:lol: 

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Interesting article about Trident. 
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/26/trident-overseas-or-halted-scotland-independence?__twitter_impression=true
This couple of paragraphs stand out for me..nobody wants this on their doorstep. 
Good enough for us though👍🏼

 

“Alternative sites considered at the time Faslane was chosen, such as Milford Haven in Wales and Falmouth in Cornwall, are now industrialised in the case of the former or have a larger population; while Devonport, where the submarines are refitted, would require significant engineering work and is close to the city of Plymouth.

Any new site would take many years to develop, amid what is likely to be intense local opposition wherever is chosen. “It is therefore a reasonable assumption that achievement of the necessary planning permissions would be testing or impossible,” Gower said.”

 

 

 

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Listened to and watched some of Sarwar lately. Another utter Jack n Danny he is :lol: 

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2 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

Interesting article about Trident. 
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/26/trident-overseas-or-halted-scotland-independence?__twitter_impression=true
This couple of paragraphs stand out for me..nobody wants this on their doorstep. 
Good enough for us though👍🏼

 

“Alternative sites considered at the time Faslane was chosen, such as Milford Haven in Wales and Falmouth in Cornwall, are now industrialised in the case of the former or have a larger population; while Devonport, where the submarines are refitted, would require significant engineering work and is close to the city of Plymouth.

Any new site would take many years to develop, amid what is likely to be intense local opposition wherever is chosen. “It is therefore a reasonable assumption that achievement of the necessary planning permissions would be testing or impossible,” Gower said.”

 

 

 


Reason given for it not initially being placed in Devenport - "too close to a population centre with risk to life too catastrophic". 
 

16 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Listened to and watched some of Sarwar lately. Another utter Jack n Danny he is :lol: 


I'm just waiting for him to follow in his corrupt Father's footsteps. Watch how utterly gormless he becomes when he is off-script - his PR assistant must work overtime to make this dumb fool sound like he has anything about him. 

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3 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

Listened to and watched some of Sarwar lately. Another utter Jack n Danny he is :lol: 

He's a snake. Always has been.

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Anas becoming a target for insults he must be getting under the separatists skins 

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1 hour ago, Roxy Hearts said:

He's a snake. Always has been.

 

Know him personally do you? Has he lied to committees or assaulted any female staffers? 

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1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said:

Anas becoming a target for insults he must be getting under the separatists skins 

 

To be fair his is a slippery individual. Wealthy family with history (dad) kids at expensive private school. Just your run of the mill defender of the workers! 

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Roxy Hearts
4 hours ago, manaliveits105 said:

Anas becoming a target for insults he must be getting under the separatists skins 

I haven't seen any of the political stuff recently but I know by watching and listening to him a few years ago he's not to be trusted. 

 

3 hours ago, JackLadd said:

 

Know him personally do you? Has he lied to committees or assaulted any female staffers? 

I wouldn't want to know him or any other unionist toady. Has he lied, probably, he's a politician! Don't know about female staffers unless you do?

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47 minutes ago, Roxy Hearts said:

I wouldn't want to know him or any other unionist toady. Has he lied, probably, he's a politician! Don't know about female staffers unless you do?

 

You don't like him because you're a cultist allergic to facts. Folk talking sense like Sarwar send you scurrying back under your stone.

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1 hour ago, JackLadd said:

 

You don't like him because you're a cultist allergic to facts. Folk talking sense like Sarwar send you scurrying back under your stone.

If Sarwar floats your boat then it will sink! He's an absolute roaster.

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On 28/04/2021 at 21:32, JackLadd said:

 

You don't like him because you're a cultist allergic to facts. Folk talking sense like Sarwar send you scurrying back under your stone.


Watch Sarwar when he goes off script - he's utterly glakit.

Still, that aside - his other qualities include being part of a dynasty of corruption, not paying his staff the living wage and revealing his champagne socialist credentials by sending his kids to public school. 

Definitely the guy to take poor, council school attending kids out of poverty imo. 

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Just now, Gizmo said:


Watch Sarwar when he goes off script - he's utterly glakit.

Still, that aside - his other qualities include being part of a dynasty of corruption, not paying his staff the living wage and revealing his champagne socialist credentials by sending his kids to public school. 

Definitely the guy to take poor, council school attending kids out of poverty imo. 

 

Haven't seen enough to gauge him although I'm not overly impressed. Undecided whether to vote Rennie or wee Ross. Rennie might be edging it. 

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1 minute ago, JackLadd said:

 

Haven't seen enough to gauge him although I'm not overly impressed. Undecided whether to vote Rennie or wee Ross. Rennie might be edging it. 


Rennie is just the wee guy in a playground that might have the odd good idea but gets ignored. Ross is definitely turning off the tory voter base by most polls - whom Sarwar may pick up a couple of seats from the floating unionist voters - which will be better than Leonard, Dugdale or Murphy managed.

Can't say I've ever seen Sarwar as trustworthy but then Labour lost me a long time ago - Lamont in particular ruined that party and treated the voter base like they were scum. 

Hope that's a reasonable response since your post wasn't a troll or attack - fair's fair.  
  

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1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said:

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I will just leave that there 

An Indy ref will not happen until at least 2024 just before the end of the next parliament . This will give NS and others enough earnings / pension to semi Retire as they know when it is a No then that’s the end game fir her and others . I honestly cannot seen the electorate voting yes when push comes to shove . 

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15 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

An Indy ref will not happen until at least 2024 just before the end of the next parliament . This will give NS and others enough earnings / pension to semi Retire as they know when it is a No then that’s the end game fir her and others . I honestly cannot seen the electorate voting yes when push comes to shove . 

It'll most certainly be a no for me.

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6 minutes ago, Mars plastic said:

It'll most certainly be a no for me.

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44 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

An Indy ref will not happen until at least 2024 just before the end of the next parliament . This will give NS and others enough earnings / pension to semi Retire as they know when it is a No then that’s the end game fir her and others . I honestly cannot seen the electorate voting yes when push comes to shove . 

 

Right now i think we're seeing people fed up of the last few months of SNP infighting along with a concern over how we recover from Covid and Brexit.

 

The general trend is that younger voters are more inclined to be open to Indie - we're getting more of them and will see that  positive % creep up over time IMO.

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5 minutes ago, Mysterion said:

 

Right now i think we're seeing people fed up of the last few months of SNP infighting along with a concern over how we recover from Covid and Brexit.

 

The general trend is that younger voters are more inclined to be open to Indie - we're getting more of them and will see that  positive % creep up over time IMO.

Yes I think you are right . But the priority should be to recover from covid and get the economy up and running again the think about a ref

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20 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

the priority should be to recover from covid and get the economy up and running again before thinking about a ref

 

Don't forget Albaman says he is ...

 

 

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30 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Yes I think you are right . But the priority should be to recover from covid and get the economy up and running again the think about a ref

 

Which parts of our economy are not up and running and what needs to be done to help them that cannot be done during a referendum?

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Smithee
8 minutes ago, coconut doug said:

 

Which parts of our economy are not up and running and what needs to be done to help them that cannot be done during a referendum?

It's that whole "they should be concentrating on winning games, no speaking to the media" thing, there's absolutely no reason a government of hundreds couldn't deal with more than one concept at a time, it's a ridiculous arrow to sling.

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15 minutes ago, Smithee said:

It's that whole "they should be concentrating on winning games, no speaking to the media" thing, there's absolutely no reason a government of hundreds couldn't deal with more than one concept at a time, it's a ridiculous arrow to sling.

 

Brexit is damaging the economy. It was o.k. to do that during the pandemic but not indy. 

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13 hours ago, JackLadd said:

 

Haven't seen enough to gauge him although I'm not overly impressed. Undecided whether to vote Rennie or wee Ross. Rennie might be edging it. 

 

A wasted vote with Rennie. 

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2 minutes ago, coconut doug said:

 

Brexit is damaging the economy. It was o.k. to do that during the pandemic but not indy. 

 

Probably not the best idea to do either, tbf.

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7 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

A wasted vote with Rennie. 

 

Likewise Ross and Sarwar on constituency vote. Rennie would be a good FM but will never get  the chance I know. 

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53 minutes ago, Mars plastic said:

Alas, I'm a traitor.

Haha not what I’d say pal there’s nowt wrong with wanting the union. It’s the knocking and degrading Scotland and the people who want the opposite is what winds me up👍🏼

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2 hours ago, Mysterion said:

 

Right now i think we're seeing people fed up of the last few months of SNP infighting along with a concern over how we recover from Covid and Brexit.

 

The general trend is that younger voters are more inclined to be open to Indie - we're getting more of them and will see that  positive % creep up over time IMO.

You might be right about younger voters but you have a couple of problems. Like the rest of us they are getting older all the time whilst the old are not getting younger. The older demographic is also a growing majority of the electorate and that will continue.

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37 minutes ago, jambos are go! said:

You might be right about younger voters but you have a couple of problems. Like the rest of us they are getting older all the time whilst the old are not getting younger. The older demographic is also a growing majority of the electorate and that will continue.

It's a mistake I think a lot of people make. It's less that an older, more conservative generation are dwindling, and more that people generally get more conservative as they get older, they have more to protect and are less inclined to want change.

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3 hours ago, JackLadd said:

 

Likewise Ross and Sarwar on constituency vote. Rennie would be a good FM but will never get  the chance I know. 

 

Maybe not. 

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18 hours ago, Gizmo said:

 


Rennie is just the wee guy in a playground that might have the odd good idea but gets ignored. Ross is definitely turning off the tory voter base by most polls - whom Sarwar may pick up a couple of seats from the floating unionist voters - which will be better than Leonard, Dugdale or Murphy managed.

Can't say I've ever seen Sarwar as trustworthy but then Labour lost me a long time ago - Lamont in particular ruined that party and treated the voter base like they were scum. 

Hope that's a reasonable response since your post wasn't a troll or attack - fair's fair.  
  

Labour lost me the day John Smith died. The party I supported died that day as well. And has NEVER recovered. 

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31 minutes ago, EH11_2NL said:

Labour lost me the day John Smith died. The party I supported died that day as well. And has NEVER recovered. 

 

How melodramatic! :shockio:

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41 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:


Tad more subtle than the screeching headline, but we'll see. It's quite simple - if the SNP fail this time round to deliver a referendum, the next one will be delivered by Alba and they will be finished.

You do get that the determination to extricate ourselves from this undemocratic union is not about the SNP or about cults, aye?

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4 hours ago, EH11_2NL said:

Labour lost me the day John Smith died. The party I supported died that day as well. And has NEVER recovered. 

100 pc correct

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pablo

This is absolutely fantastic. Krankie pretending to lose connection when she doesn't have an answer to a question, a proper journalist asked her on the radio yesterday. :gok:

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:greggy:    Boris could learn a few tricks off Nicoliar 

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3 minutes ago, pablo said:

This is absolutely fantastic. Krankie pretending to lose connection when she doesn't have an answer to a question, a proper journalist asked her on the radio yesterday. :gok:

The whole thing was a right laugh..."I don't necessarily accept that..."

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She accepts that we would have to take our share of debt or negotiate the amount .

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