The Merse Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 7 hours ago, heartsfc_fan said: St Mirren P - P Hearts I’d take that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozi Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, kila said: The Met Office forecast If it does go ahead, I hope BT are more competent than the BBC were for the Falkirk game Even the weather is against us just now, seriously how many games on the bounce can we play in severe weather warnings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 If say the game was to go ahead is there a boozer that hearts fans go to near the ground? We are going for a few pints before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, One five said: If say the game was to go ahead is there a boozer that hearts fans go to near the ground? We are going for a few pints before. No. Pubs near station best bet. 20 min walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 The ground is saturated already and heavy rain and 40/50 mph winds forecast all day and evening tomorrow. Just do everyone a favour and call the game off in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: No. Pubs near station best bet. 20 min walk. Ok mate cheers 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 On 18/02/2020 at 14:53, wavydavy said: You could sing that to the tune of the Hokey Cokey. You do the gengenpress and you turn around and that what's it's all about!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4-1 Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC01 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 At least the temperatures up 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, luckydug said: The ground is saturated already and heavy rain and 40/50 mph winds forecast all day and evening tomorrow. Just do everyone a favour and call the game off in the morning. That sounds to me as if it's off. Good thing or bad thing? Injury/illness I would have thought it was good for us. Might be good for them as well though. I don't know. We might also pile up more casualties in the intervening period. What do people think? Overall I say good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: You do the gengenpress and you turn around and that what's it's all about!!! You put your goalie in, you take your goalie out, your defence is chronic so you shake it all about. Someone finish it. I'm no John Lennon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatlock Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 You do the geggenpress and then we go one down, that’s what it’s all about😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo414 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 47 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: You do the gengenpress and you turn around and that what's it's all about!!! You do the gegenpress and you turn aro- FFS WHAT IS JOEL DOING OFF HIS LINE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdust Caesar Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Kiwidoug said: You put your goalie in, you take your goalie out, your defence is chronic so you shake it all about. Someone finish it. I'm no John Lennon. I read all that to the tune of Hokey Cokey and thought those last 2 sentences don't scan before I realised they weren't part of your song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Governor Tarkin said: What happened to Lemmy? If you mean the avatar, GT, that was Ray Sawyer of Dr Hook fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, martoon said: If you mean the avatar, GT, that was Ray Sawyer of Dr Hook fame. For months I thought I was looking at Lemmy. I've been living a lie. I vaguely remember Dr Hook, but being a nipper at the time don't remember much about Mr Sawyer. You could be so kind as to confirm the identity of the present incumbent before I make a tit of myself yet again, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: For months I thought I was looking at Lemmy. I've been living a lie. I vaguely remember Dr Hook, but being a nipper at the time don't remember much about Mr Sawyer. You could be so kind as to confirm the identity of the present incumbent before I make a tit of myself yet again, please. 😊 It's Walter Matthau playing Oscar Madison in "The Odd Couple". Jack Lemmon was Felix Unger. Brilliant movie, bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, martoon said: 😊 It's Walter Matthau playing Oscar Madison in "The Odd Couple". Jack Lemmon was Felix Unger. Brilliant movie, bud. I must've seen that at some point over the years. Loved Jack Lemmon in Some Like it Hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Heaviest rain through the afternnon so hopefully a shout one way or the other before most folks travel. Still think its a go-er. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said: The worst weather is Thursday night to Friday night. Sorry, I meant if the Hearts St Mirren game was postponed, would that further incentavise, the other two relegation spot teams to play better..... Try to pull away from Hearts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 56 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: I must've seen that at some point over the years. Loved Jack Lemmon in Some Like it Hot. Aye. Superb film. "I hope my mother never finds out". 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 On 19/02/2020 at 12:51, amadjambo said: Disagree. Yes he gave a penalty away, but ultimately the blame lies with Souttar for that disaster. Clare has been our best player for weeks now. Clare has played a part in a significant number of the goals we have lost. He’s never a defender and probably never will be. He’s looked half decent coming forward from right back though, mainly due to not being shut down. Put him back into midfield and I think we’ll see the same Clare as previously, he’ll struggle to cope with the pace and physicality of the Scottish game. All in my opinion of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) On 19/02/2020 at 13:05, Sir Gio said: Agree to disagree then. An awful lot of goals coming from our right side, bar his excellent goal against Airdrie, not much on the credit side. Stendel to his credit moved him on Saturday before he did any further damage. I rate him as a player, but not as a defender, I think its patently obvious he cant defend. This, although as a midfielder I don’t rate him, as his numerous previous performances in that role have shown him to be below average at best. Edited February 21, 2020 by Ethan Hunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 6 hours ago, rick witter said: I don’t think we can change it but to say that the team that was listed should easily be good enough to beat St Mirren is arrogant in the extreme and one of the main reasons we are in this mess. We can’t keep saying we have better players when week after week they probs they are not better and if anything are worse. Do you really think that someone on kickback saying that we should win is one of the main reasons we are bottom of the league? Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 If the game goes ahead and isn't postponed then I would like us to change tactics a little bit, Perhaps try and play defensive and on the counter attack for at least the first 30 mins, Then maybe open up a bit more and go for it in the second half? I think this could potentially catch st mirren off guard? But who knows, I'm still not sure what to expect but going to be positive and go for a squeaky 2-1 win for us! Naismith and Meshino off the bench! P.s I would give Boyce a rest and play Denzel up front beside Naismith maybe have him on bench if rumours about him not training all week are true? Line up assuming no one else is injured? 4-4-2 formation Zlamal Smith,Souttar,Halkett,Hickey Clare,Bozanic,Sibbick or Irving,Walker Washington,Naismith Subs Pereira Garuccio Dikamona Meshino Avdijaj Boyce Uche I hope we can do it! Mon the Hearts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Hans Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 The weather is wild on the west coast right now. I'll be pleasantly surprised if this game goes ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Can’t see this going ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Derby v Fulham is on, probably watch that anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 hours ago, luckydug said: The ground is saturated already and heavy rain and 40/50 mph winds forecast all day and evening tomorrow. Just do everyone a favour and call the game off in the morning. this. absolutely absurd to go ahead with this tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Can’t see this going ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Knew I was premature buying my train ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Winter break in January is excellent.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Kiwidoug said: You put your goalie in, you take your goalie out, your defence is chronic so you shake it all about. Someone finish it. I'm no John Lennon. I'm no John Lennon and neither's my wife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I'm off to bed with Lynda La Plante again, convinced that I will waken to find this has been postponed. My phone app says the forecast is utterly grim. Good thing imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, indianajones said: Winter break in January is excellent.... Yeah. The good thing about it is you always get decent weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Sure I saw Brandon back in training. Think we might see him back in tonight. Zlamal Brandon Souttar Halkett Hickey Smith Irving Clare Naismith Walker Washington subs: Pereira, Dikamona, Garrucio, Bozanic, Avdijaj, Uche, Henderson Ive seen some team predictions putting Bozanic in midfield with Irving. Any time we’ve played that formation, they’ve been overrun, it won’t work. Halkett and Souttar will end up out of position trying to cover for them (just think of the Rangers goal against us at home). Cut out the mistakes and we win tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcajambo Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Gashauskis9 said: Sure I saw Brandon back in training. Think we might see him back in tonight. Zlamal Brandon Souttar Halkett Hickey Smith Irving Clare Naismith Walker Washington subs: Pereira, Dikamona, Garrucio, Bozanic, Avdijaj, Uche, Henderson Ive seen some team predictions putting Bozanic in midfield with Irving. Any time we’ve played that formation, they’ve been overrun, it won’t work. Halkett and Souttar will end up out of position trying to cover for them (just think of the Rangers goal against us at home). Cut out the mistakes and we win tonight. Smith at Right Back and Bozanic will start I think. Also think Boyce will manage to make the bench. Edited February 21, 2020 by barcajambo Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Pishing down all day in Paisley and high winds too. Quite happy if this gets rescheduled. We really need the points and I'd probably rather try and play them a little later when hopefully we've got a little momentum. With the knocks we've got, and the fact that weather will once again prevent this from being a decent game of football, I'd be happy to see it called off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick witter Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 hours ago, graygo said: Do you really think that someone on kickback saying that we should win is one of the main reasons we are bottom of the league? Unbelievable. The main reason we are in this mess is our players go out on to the pitch thinking they have to just turn up and they will win. That was clearly obvious in both the Kilmarnock and Hamilton games at home recently. It about time they realised they are the worst team in the league and try to do something about it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That-Day-In-May Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Weather is brutal here in Paisley. I imagine the game will only get called off because of the high winds. St Mirrens groundsman knows what he’s doing so the park will be fine. Hoping the game goes ahead the last thing we need is fixture congestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) See for all the chat of our back line being too high and both fullbacks going at same time etc? How many goals have we actually lost as a direct result of this? Not many I'd bet. An amount which make the tactic a worthwhile positive tactical risk. The basic defending - and goalkeeping - of individuals at key moments has let us down. Bad decision making and technique. It's an easy issue for pundits and managers to pick up on, our high line. Everyone else in Scotland pretty much defends deep and most games are that of attrition, something which holds us back. New tactic being used and everyone starts flapping. It hasn't been perfect but all I'm saying is I wish our supporters would stop picking up the tactical analysis of our numbskull pundits and running with it to beat our manager. The midfield and creative attacker mix is a much bigger issue imo but all we keep hearing is high line high line high line. It's boring and easy. Edited February 21, 2020 by TheBigO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, That-Day-In-May said: Weather is brutal here in Paisley. I imagine the game will only get called off because of the high winds. St Mirrens groundsman knows what he’s doing so the park will be fine. Hoping the game goes ahead the last thing we need is fixture congestion. The groundsman can only do so much with a months worth of rain in a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigO Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, That-Day-In-May said: Weather is brutal here in Paisley. I imagine the game will only get called off because of the high winds. St Mirrens groundsman knows what he’s doing so the park will be fine. Hoping the game goes ahead the last thing we need is fixture congestion. If we are missing Boyce, Smith, Clare and Sibbick, there's an argument that postponement would suit. Not sure if we are missing them or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylejordan Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheBigO said: See for all the chat of our back line being too high and both fullbacks going at same time etc? How many goals have we actually lost as a direct result of this? Not many I'd bet. An amount which make the tactic a worthwhile positive tactical risk. The basic defending - and goalkeeping - of individuals at key moments has let us down. Bad decision making and technique. It's an easy issue for pundits and managers to pick up on, our high line. Everyone else in Scotald pretty much defends deep and most games are that or attrition, something which holds us back. New tactic being used and everyone starts flapping. It hasn't been perfect but all I'm saying is I wish our supporters would stop picking up the tactical analysis of our numbskull pundits and running with it to beat our manager. The midfield and creative attacker mix is a much bigger issue imo but all we keep hearing is high line high line high line. It's boring and easy. I don’t think the high line is the problem. Its the turnover of what happens when we don’t win the ball back quick enough higher up the pitch that allows the oppo forwards to make runs in behind and for the defenders to just pump it over our heads. Teams have been playing with high lines for donkeys years but the football experts of Scottish punditry think this is some new formula in football. We can all see it is the individual errors that are costing us game after game, some more so than others (cough pereira cough) but it’s also not being disciplined enough to take charge at the back to stop them playing through us so easily or giving up stupid goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, TheBigO said: See for all the chat of our back line being too high and both fullbacks going at same time etc? How many goals have we actually lost as a direct result of this? Not many I'd bet. An amount which make the tactic a worthwhile positive tactical risk. The basic defending - and goalkeeping - of individuals at key moments has let us down. Bad decision making and technique. It's an easy issue for pundits and managers to pick up on, our high line. Everyone else in Scotland pretty much defends deep and most games are that of attrition, something which holds us back. New tactic being used and everyone starts flapping. It hasn't been perfect but all I'm saying is I wish our supporters would stop picking up the tactical analysis of our numbskull pundits and running with it to beat our manager. The midfield and creative attacker mix is a much bigger issue imo but all we keep hearing is high line high line high line. It's boring and easy. I agree, players doing stupid/shit things has been the bullet in our foot recently, but there's very little room for error playing the way we do so I see the argument that we need to allow for that tactically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VivaObua Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Wind is mid 20s with gusts around 40. That isn’t going to stop the game going ahead. Rain forecast is nasty but looks to calm around 8/9 tonight guessing they’ll give it to 5 and have a look at the pitch and make a call. Sure I read its Muir who’s the ref and he’s a prat wouldn’t be surprised if he makes an arse of the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Feel sorry for the fans travelling with the anticipation and build up to the game all week and then waiting all day to see if it is going to be on or not, it kind of makes a mockery of the winter break but hey ho I suppose our weather is always unpredictable. I just wonder if our high press system would work better in better conditions with the chance of mistakes lessened due to the pitch, winds, slips, falls etc. I know they are professionals blah blah blah but integrating a brand new system in the conditions recently and when we are languishing so close to relegation must be daunting. One mistake and it is very costly with everyone so high up the pitch gives other teams to expose and counter attack at will. Will say this though been most exciting games these past couple of months for a LONG time now even if results have been disastrous minus the Rangers game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, TheBigO said: See for all the chat of our back line being too high and both fullbacks going at same time etc? How many goals have we actually lost as a direct result of this? Not many I'd bet. An amount which make the tactic a worthwhile positive tactical risk. The basic defending - and goalkeeping - of individuals at key moments has let us down. Bad decision making and technique. It's an easy issue for pundits and managers to pick up on, our high line. Everyone else in Scotland pretty much defends deep and most games are that of attrition, something which holds us back. New tactic being used and everyone starts flapping. It hasn't been perfect but all I'm saying is I wish our supporters would stop picking up the tactical analysis of our numbskull pundits and running with it to beat our manager. The midfield and creative attacker mix is a much bigger issue imo but all we keep hearing is high line high line high line. It's boring and easy. I've been thinking the same thing. It's individual errors and shite goalkeeping that has cost us. We've had a few scary moments with players having to make last ditch tackles, but that is all part of playing this styele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Why do people insist on going on about the weather being fine in January/makes a joke of the winter break etc The winter break has nothing to do with the weather in this country, it is designed purely to give the players a break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, TheBigO said: See for all the chat of our back line being too high and both fullbacks going at same time etc? How many goals have we actually lost as a direct result of this? Not many I'd bet. An amount which make the tactic a worthwhile positive tactical risk. The basic defending - and goalkeeping - of individuals at key moments has let us down. Bad decision making and technique. It's an easy issue for pundits and managers to pick up on, our high line. Everyone else in Scotland pretty much defends deep and most games are that of attrition, something which holds us back. New tactic being used and everyone starts flapping. It hasn't been perfect but all I'm saying is I wish our supporters would stop picking up the tactical analysis of our numbskull pundits and running with it to beat our manager. The midfield and creative attacker mix is a much bigger issue imo but all we keep hearing is high line high line high line. It's boring and easy. off the top of my head I can think of Burke for killie against us. As you say It’s stupid errors costing us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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