Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[Governor Tarkin]

26 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said:

 

I would bet my cardboard box under the motorway flyover that the term 'snowflake' is one you use regularly. 

 

[Jeff]

Seems like 1000 pages ago life was semi normal

[Weakened Offender]

12 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said:

 

 

[AlimOzturk]

42 minutes ago, Gone said:

Seems like 1000 pages ago life was semi normal

Cant see what was normal before being the same again. Hope I am wrong. I swear I’ll appreciate life 100 times more if thing go back to the way they were 

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

1 minute ago, AlimOzturk said:

Cant see what was normal before being the same again. Hope I am wrong. I swear I’ll appreciate life 100 times more if thing go back to the way they were 

 

next year hopefully mate

 

politically the winter is going to be a nightmare as lots of people will die unfortunately (as they always do just not on the telly)

 

once the harshness of winter has gone with a bit of luck things will start heading back towards normal - with or without a vaccine

 

 

[Jeff]

19 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Cant see what was normal before being the same again. Hope I am wrong. I swear I’ll appreciate life 100 times more if thing go back to the way they were 

 

Gotta stay positive. It will be bloody strange when ordering a pint of ice cold lager is as simple as walking up to the bar and asking without material covering your mouth

[Dennis Reynolds]

Just now, Brian Dundas said:

Furlough to be extended to March, while this is good news although no detail yet, it is also disappointing that it is thought to be needed until then.

 

Excellent and terrible at the same time. Was not expecting it to go until March.

 

I expect by March, a vaccine will be well through being rolled out so hopefully he's shooting long but won't actually be needed. Fingers crossed anyway.

[Dennis Reynolds]

18 minutes ago, Gone said:

 

Gotta stay positive. It will be bloody strange when ordering a pint of ice cold lager is as simple as walking up to the bar and asking without material covering your mouth

 

I've actually enjoyed the table service when it's been available 🤔

 

Got to agree though, just being able to go to a pub for a couple pints without having to pre-book tables, get temp checked, sign in, time limits etc etc will be great. Also not having to worry about how many households you're with!

[manaliveits105]

22 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said:

Furlough to be extended to March, while this is good news although no detail yet, it is also disappointing that it is thought to be needed until then.

Good news covers whole of UK and as Rishi says shows the strength of the union 

 

[AlimOzturk]

Pretty pleased to hear of the furlough being extended. 

[Ray Gin]

Good news. Ridiculous that Scotland has had to harass the UK gov for a week to get this response, and that Wales were told to bolt a week before it was eventually extended just because England needed it. Shows the weakness of the Union.

[Jambo 4 Ever]

1216 new cases

 

39 deaths!

[And he’s not praying!]

It’s taken England being riddled for this to happen.

 

I’m no Scottish nationalist but I do wonder about our level of support had we needed it and England didn’t.

 

The union is messed.

[Seymour M Hersh]

1 minute ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

1216 new cases

 

39 deaths!

 

Heeeere's Johnny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

[Jambo 4 Ever]

Just now, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Heeeere's Johnny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

You are acting a bit odd mate 

Edited November 5, 2020 by Jambo 4 Ever

[Seymour M Hersh]

1 minute ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

You are acting a bit odd mate 

 

Just laughing my ass off at you, mate! 

[Ray Gin]

2 minutes ago, And he’s not praying! said:

It’s taken England being riddled for this to happen.

 

I’m no Scottish nationalist but I do wonder about our level of support had we needed it and England didn’t.

 

The union is messed.

 

It would have been the same as it was for Wales: bolt.

 

[Ray Gin]

4 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Heeeere's Johnny!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

Is this the level the thread has stooped to? Making jokes about 39 people dying and posting images of the grim reaper?

 

[Jambo 4 Ever]

3 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

Just laughing my ass off at you, mate! 

How come?

 

I just mentioned the daily stats

 

says more about you than me - either you find a deadly virus funny, or trying to act like a keyboard warrior and act like a bully!

[The Mighty Thor]

2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Is this the level the thread has stooped to? Making jokes about 39 people dying and posting images of the grim reaper?

 

You're right. Much more consideration should be given to the consistently high new infection rate and the climbing death toll against a backdrop of tier 3 lockdowns for weeks on end. 

What is driving infection?

Which settings are driving infection? 

What are SG going to do about it?

 

[Enzo Chiefo]

7 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Today's figures (5/11/20)

 

Discarded masks on streets of EH9

Five (+1 on previous day).

 

Of which:

Blue (3)

Black (1)

White (1)

 

 

Anyone got any update on the vast majority of hospital patients who are non- Covid? Or those who have had operations cancelled this week?? Any FM sympathy for the families who lost loved ones, to non-Covid conditions,  this week?  The vast majority of deaths that is.

[GinRummy]

5 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said:

I am not sure how it shows the strength of anything other than the South of England, just ask the the North, The Middle, Wales, NI and Scotland............

 

This measure should never have been removed in the 1st place.

It sort of wasn’t. It only finished at the end of October, albeit at a reduced rate and now it’s back. 

Edited November 5, 2020 by GinRummy

[Ray Gin]

4 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

You're right. Much more consideration should be given to the consistently high new infection rate and the climbing death toll against a backdrop of tier 3 lockdowns for weeks on end. 

What is driving infection?

Which settings are driving infection? 

What are SG going to do about it?

 

 

SG have introduced a tier system and cases + hospital admissions have levelled off instead of the steep rise we saw in September-mid October. Deaths are a few weeks behind the case rate, so it could well be a while yet before these drop.

[manaliveits105]

Chancellor has always been dealing with an unknown moving target - we are where we are and furlough now extended I see wee Jimmy isnt happy the rug has been pulled from her feet - " I will have to look into this" - at the end of the day its Scottish peoples jobs that matter not politiking 

[escobri]

Furlough extension means lockdowns to continue all winter. Mass testing rolled out will probably set up a good base for mass vaccination, no jag = no job/travel?. Starting to not like where this is heading.

[GinRummy]

1 minute ago, Brian Dundas said:

It should have remained at 80% and not have ended at the end of October.

While I agree, as it’s turned out it’s only left a gap of a few days. 

Edited November 5, 2020 by GinRummy

[The Mighty Thor]

5 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

SG have introduced a tier system and cases + hospital admissions have levelled off instead of the steep rise we saw in September-mid October. Deaths are a few weeks behind the case rate, so it could well be a while yet before these drop.

I'm aware of the levelling off but the question of how, with the supposed high transmission taps of home mixing and hospitality turned off, is it possible that we're still racking up 1200-1500 new cases per day 4-6 weeks down the line, has not been answered. 

 

Edited November 5, 2020 by The Mighty Thor

[GinRummy]

1 minute ago, The Mighty Thor said:

I'm aware of the levelling off but the question of how, with the supposed high transmission taps of home mixing and hospitality turned off, is it possible that we're still racking up 1200-1500 new cases per day 4-6 weeks down the line, has not been answered. 

 

Bound to be partly because people ARE still mixing at home. Though I personally believe you close everything bar the essential or close nothing at all. 

[Ray Gin]

4 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

I'm aware of the levelling off but the question of how, with the supposed high transmission taps of home mixing and hospitality turned off, is it possible that we're still racking up 1200-1500 new cases per day 4-6 weeks down the line, has not been answered. 

 

 

Because cases don't just instantly disappear. We had a full pelt lockdown in March/April and it took several week for the case rate to come down.

 

[Malinga the Swinga]

1 hour ago, Ray Gin said:

 

It would have been the same as it was for Wales: bolt.

 

Total guesswork and bollocks. Winge about no support being available and now it is available, winge about how it came about. Pretty sure those relying on scheme do not give a **** about your complaints, they're just grateful it is. 

[Victorian]

Sturgeon (some may know as Nippy / Krankie / witch / fun sponge / Hitler) seems encouraged by some progress being made to suppress the wave.  I dare say this will herald the green light for some to demand an instant easing of measures.  I say they shouldn't change a damn thing.  Keep going with the current tiers and bash this as hard as we can.  

 

Infections being flattened already would be really good news.  We have to keep going while the opportunity is there to put it into reverse again.

[Malinga the Swinga]

50 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said:

It should have remained at 80% and not have ended at the end of October.

Your qualifications must have been missed by Treasury. Look forward to reading your plans for repaying all this. 

[Malinga the Swinga]

1 hour ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Is this the level the thread has stooped to? Making jokes about 39 people dying and posting images of the grim reaper?

 

Nope, it was more a comment on the posters excitement and joy at being able to post more depressing stats. Why the exclamation mark at end of deaths? J4E is loving this scenario. 

[Ray Gin]

7 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Total guesswork and bollocks. Winge about no support being available and now it is available, winge about how it came about. Pretty sure those relying on scheme do not give a **** about your complaints, they're just grateful it is. 

 

Aye, I'm sure they've loved the uncertainty over the past few weeks while England were telling Wales to piss off.

 

[Malinga the Swinga]

5 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Sturgeon (some may know as Nippy / Krankie / witch / fun sponge / Hitler) seems encouraged by some progress being made to suppress the wave.  I dare say this will herald the green light for some to demand an instant easing of measures.  I say they shouldn't change a damn thing.  Keep going with the current tiers and bash this as hard as we can.  

 

Infections being flattened already would be really good news.  We have to keep going while the opportunity is there to put it into reverse again.

I assume your job is safe and you can afford to carry on with living like this. If stats go down, then areas should change tiers or what is the point in having them.

Cannot understand the enthusiasm you have for living under restrictions. 

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 5 November 2020

Summary

• 1,216 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-217]
• 39 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [-11]
• 95 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+1]
• 1,252 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-5]
• 18,777 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 7.6% of these were positive

[Guest]

Well done the Tories.

[AlimOzturk]

Just now, redjambo said:

Scottish numbers: 5 November 2020

Summary

• 1,216 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-217]
• 39 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [-11]
• 95 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+1]
• 1,252 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-5]
• 18,777 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 7.6% of these were positive

Doesn’t look like anything is improving does it. 

[Malinga the Swinga]

2 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Aye, I'm sure they've loved the uncertainty over the past few weeks while England were telling Wales to piss off.

 

We want furlough extended? What it's been extended. We want to complain about why furlough extended. 

Some folk never happy. 

[Malinga the Swinga]

2 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said:

Well done the Tories.

Only extended because of SNP apparently! Thought Sunak in charge of Treasury but according to some on here, he only helps England and English. 

[Ray Gin]

1 minute ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

We want furlough extended? What it's been extended. We want to complain about why furlough extended. 

Some folk never happy. 

 

I'm merely responding the comment that this is some sort of glowing example of the union working brilliantly.

 

[redjambo]

Today's per-board, per-100,000 case breakdown:

 

Scotland 22 [-4].

 

Greater Glasgow 41 [-10], Lanarkshire 36 [-12], Forth Valley 24 [+13], Ayrshire 22 [-2].

 

Tayside 19 [+2], Fife 18 [-4], Lothian 14 [-4], Dumfries & Galloway 13 [+6].

 

Highland 6 [+2], Grampian 5 [-2], Borders 3 [-6], all the Isles 0.

[redjambo]

5 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Doesn’t look like anything is improving does it. 

 

No, but cases are stabilising around the 1,200 mark. It's not getting markedly worse, and that's a bonus.

[Malinga the Swinga]

Just now, redjambo said:

Today's per-board, per-100,000 case breakdown:

 

Scotland 22 [-4].

 

Greater Glasgow 41 [-10], Lanarkshire 36 [-12], Forth Valley 24 [+13], Ayrshire 22 [-2].

 

Tayside 19 [+2], Fife 18 [-4], Lothian 14 [-4], Dumfries & Galloway 13 [+6].

 

Highland 6 [+2], Grampian 5 [-2], Borders 3 [-6], all the Isles 0.

Lothian doing okay. Should separate from Glasgow and Lanarkshire soon and be Tier 2. That is purpose of NS's tier system after all. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Anyone got any update on the vast majority of hospital patients who are non- Covid? Or those who have had operations cancelled this week?? Any FM sympathy for the families who lost loved ones, to non-Covid conditions,  this week?  The vast majority of deaths that is.

Very true. My mate been told he will maybe wait 14 weeks to see a specialist about his possible cancer issues. Shocking. Hes wrote email to complain and also contacted his MSP that might give the NHS a kick up the a*** 

[Malinga the Swinga]

4 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

I'm merely responding the comment that this is some sort of glowing example of the union working brilliantly.

 

Well it sort of is. UK chancellor looking after UK workers. That's a good thing. 

[Victorian]

Just now, Malinga the Swinga said:

I assume your job is safe and you can afford to carry on with living like this. If stats go down, then areas should change tiers or what is the point in having them.

Cannot understand the enthusiasm you have for living under restrictions. 

 

What's becoming more and more clear is that measures need to be an above and beyond,  long haul effort.  The premature clamour to ease measures is counter productive.  We'll all benefit and benefit sooner if the effort is harder and longer.  

 

If this is going in the right direction already then a great opportinity exists to drive it under control for the winter.  It would be criminal to waste a chance to see us through the winter.  

 

The only thing I'm enthusiastic about is for the gvts to capitalise on the opportunties that present themselves.  We'll all be able to return to more normality if there's a determined campaign.  

[Malinga the Swinga]

Just now, Victorian said:

 

What's becoming more and more clear is that measures need to be an above and beyond,  long haul effort.  The premature clamour to ease measures is counter productive.  We'll all benefit and benefit sooner if the effort is harder and longer.  

 

If this is going in the right direction already then a great opportinity exists to drive it under control for the winter.  It would be criminal to waste a chance to see us through the winter.  

 

The only thing I'm enthusiastic about is for the gvts to capitalise on the opportunties that present themselves.  We'll all be able to return to more normality if there's a determined campaign.  

Or alternatively we do as Nicola said science showed and we follow her much heralded Tier system. We should only use furlough system if it is required, not just because it is an easy out for those in charge. Future generations will be paying this back for decades, all to extend lives of oldest generation. You want to add to future generations problems because of virus that we need to learn to live with. Haven't you seen job losses announced today. 

[Victorian]

1 minute ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Or alternatively we do as Nicola said science showed and we follow her much heralded Tier system. We should only use furlough system if it is required, not just because it is an easy out for those in charge. Future generations will be paying this back for decades, all to extend lives of oldest generation. You want to add to future generations problems because of virus that we need to learn to live with. Haven't you seen job losses announced today. 

 

I say the longer and harder route will benefit everyone in the end.  Economic recovery.  Mental health.  Hospitals able to continue treating non covid.   We need to try to get back near where we were in the summer and hopefully start the mass testing regime and begin the vaccine roll-out.  Half hearted attempts to suppress just don't work.  Suppression and test & trace works better from a lower base.  

 

Quite content to see it out over the long haul.  Everyone else seems to approach this from a self interest point of view so I aint going to take any lectures on that score.

 

 

[The Real Maroonblood]

33 minutes ago, Fun Boaby said:

Well done the Tories.

We're eternally grateful.