DETTY29 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, graygo said: Who do you suggest we vote for instead? Any of the other parties that also effed up transport, housing, education policy and so on whilst in charge. Edited October 29, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, AlphonseCapone said: I don't understand why Edinburgh (I'll accept West Lothian) is the same as Glasgow when this new system is meant to allow for more finely tuned restrictions. Precisely my view. We would have been as well having only 3 tiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Good to see the new case numbers dropping. Its a start at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: What an ignorant thing to say mate. People are dying - this must be taken seriously by everyone and EVERYONE MUST follow the rules You do make me chuckle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Irufushi said: You do make me chuckle How come? what part of a serious deadly virus do you find funny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmarkus1981 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: How come? what part of a serious deadly virus do you find funny? I think he meant that you make him chuckle. Not the deadly virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, mrmarkus1981 said: I think he meant that you make him chuckle. Not the deadly virus He is easily amused then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Today's per-board per-100,000 stats (just because I'm used to working them out): Lanarkshire 40 [-4], Greater Glasgow 35 [-3], Ayrshire 33 [+8], Forth Valley 15 [+2], Fife 14 [+4], Lothian 13 [-4], Tayside 12 [-6]. All the rest: less than 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, Jambo 4 Ever said: He is easily amused then Could be a "she". You should be more sensitive as regards gender issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: That’s allowed What about swinging. What if my wife and I decided to visit another couple in their home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Can JIH not just GTF now. Folk should ignore the daft weirdo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, redjambo said: Could be a "she". You should be more sensitive as regards gender issues. Let’s go with “they” then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE16 3LN Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, redjambo said: I was busy while the tiers were being announced. Many people have commented here on the unusually wide disparity of areas being assigned level 3, so I won't comment on that, but how on earth did the Lanarkshires avoid level 4?! Bizarre decision. Nationalist strongholds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 "it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, redjambo said: On a daily basis if it involves an area being moved up a tier, on an annual basis if being moved down. Annual review would indicate some forethought or plan. Thats a non-starter then. Back of the fag packet, don't upset the weeg politics it is then. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Heinrich Helmet-hair making it up as she goes along again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, graygo said: Who do you suggest we vote for instead? Anyone but the incompetent SNP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: Here is the table I did earlier updated with Today's figures from Travelling Tabby Site really struggle to see how Fife is 2, but Stirling is 3 Nice one, BD. If you could have a column for the 7-day average as well (and order it by that), that would be nifty. Edited October 29, 2020 by redjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Anyone but the incompetent SNP Need to do better than that, can you at least name one party that isn't incompetent as a starting point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 4 hours ago, hmfcbilly said: 😂😂👍. I do think an element of the decisions being taken are political too being honest. But can we really expect a politician to make a decision without politics also coming in to the equation? That's their job so I guess it must be difficult to suddenly stop thinking along political lines even if they do have the best of intentions. It's a question of balance I suppose. The poster I replied to was insisting all the SG decisions were made for political gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, jonesy said: The virus poses no threat to our way of life. The response to it has been, is and will continue to be. Who are you referring to ? The whole of humanity ? Maybe just the entire population of Scotland ? For those who have ended up in hospital with the virus, it would appear that the virus has posed a very significant threat to their way of life ...... including death. I sort of get what you and Doctor Jambo are saying ..... people die from various causes, people suffer severe life-changing diseases and injuries........ but what do you suggest the government does about Covid ? Just ignore it ? Maybe ask everyone to sign a disclaimer indicating that they can do whatever they like if they accept the risk ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Who are you referring to ? The whole of humanity ? Maybe just the entire population of Scotland ? For those who have ended up in hospital with the virus, it would appear that the virus has posed a very significant threat to their way of life ...... including death. I sort of get what you and Doctor Jambo are saying ..... people die from various causes, people suffer severe life-changing diseases and injuries........ but what do you suggest the government does about Covid ? Just ignore it ? Maybe ask everyone to sign a disclaimer indicating that they can do whatever they like if they accept the risk ? Not to mention you can pass it on to others who are following the rules and that’s not fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 58 minutes ago, graygo said: Who do you suggest we vote for instead? With attitudes like that, no wonder the Murrell Mafia is untouchable. They are a fecking bunch of gangsters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: Thanks! I am an idiot though. Those were already 7-day figures you were quoting, and I'm not sure the average adds any extra useful info. Also, they were already ordered correctly anyway. You must have thought "What the hell is he on about?", but still you came up with the goods. Cheers. Your original table was fine though without my unnecessary embellishment request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, luckydug said: It's a question of balance I suppose. The poster I replied to was insisting all the SG decisions were made for political gain. Aren’t all decisions made by politicians for political gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 58 minutes ago, Irufushi said: You do make me chuckle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: That’s allowed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 So the tier system as clear as mud ? What was the point of announcing the system if it's not doing what it's set out to do ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 To scared to go to tier 4 and too scared to lower to tier 2 I dont get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: That’s allowed What about face-bang, or is it not that kind of shooting party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: I don't understand why if they are being ultra cautious did they not put Glasgow and Lanarkshire into 4?? Then the rest would make more sense. That's how I feel.Im all for being cautious I just don't think it makes sense though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 59 minutes ago, graygo said: Need to do better than that, can you at least name one party that isn't incompetent as a starting point? I think the question is could another party lke Labour, Lib Demos, or the Scottish Tories have avoided the cluster**** that the SNP have made of the pandemic? I'd say yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 46 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: With attitudes like that, no wonder the Murrell Mafia is untouchable. They are a fecking bunch of gangsters Can you suggest anyone or are are is it just anyone but the SNP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 A new treatment trialing in Edinburgh and the Lothians https://www.ed.ac.uk/news/2020/covid-19-drug-trial-raises-prospect-of-home-based Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, frankblack said: I think the question is could another party lke Labour, Lib Demos, or the Scottish Tories have avoided the cluster**** that the SNP have made of the pandemic? I'd say yes. I would say no to be honest.I think they would all make a shambles of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, frankblack said: I think the question is could another party lke Labour, Lib Demos, or the Scottish Tories have avoided the cluster**** that the SNP have made of the pandemic? I'd say yes. I reckon we can discount the Scottish Tories seeing as their masters have seriously fecked up down South. Lib Dems? No idea as I've never seen them make a decision that they have to carry the can if it goes wrong. Labour? Track record isn't too great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: A new treatment trialing in Edinburgh and the Lothians https://www.ed.ac.uk/news/2020/covid-19-drug-trial-raises-prospect-of-home-based Women from my work is going to be doing this.Told me about it last week , I had no idea about it then. Edited October 29, 2020 by vegas-voss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 50 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Not to mention you can pass it on to others who are following the rules and that’s not fair How do you catch it if you're following the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, graygo said: I reckon we can discount the Scottish Tories seeing as their masters have seriously fecked up down South. Lib Dems? No idea as I've never seen them make a decision that they have to carry the can if it goes wrong. Labour? Track record isn't too great. Point is that its time to give someone else a go. These levels of mistakes can't be justified in keeping them in power. Edit: Tories will get the boot for similar at the next GE. Edited October 29, 2020 by frankblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, graygo said: I reckon we can discount the Scottish Tories seeing as their masters have seriously fecked up down South. Lib Dems? No idea as I've never seen them make a decision that they have to carry the can if it goes wrong. Labour? Track record isn't too great. Scottish politics is pretty shit right now it's why the status quo gets in so easily now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, GinRummy said: What about swinging. What if my wife and I decided to visit another couple in their home? That's allowed. In Tier 2, swinging can take place in groups of up to 10, as long as all the car keys are sanitised before being thrown into the pot.👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 47 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: A quick look at a few of the numbers, mostly deaths, shows we are moving much slower this time still, what was a week in March is about a month this time. There was a consultant on from Salford hospital on 5 live earlier. He was saying that fewer people are dying from covid as they have a better understanding of treatments and how to make them effective. The down side was the survivors need beds for longer and they're a finite resource. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, graygo said: How do you catch it if you're following the rules? You don't. It's just an urban myth among the hysterical types who believe it hovers about in the air, waiting to strike. The vast majority catching it will be those who are flaunting the rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, graygo said: How do you catch it if you're following the rules? In a hospital for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, graygo said: How do you catch it if you're following the rules? Because wearing a mask helps you stop passing it on. The masketeers who don't infect everyone else. Blowhards the lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, graygo said: Can you suggest anyone or are are is it just anyone but the SNP? That's how politics work. If you're not happy with how the current lot are running the country, vote them out. I'm in Edinburgh West and vote Lib Dem. I wouldn't say I was a die hard member of their party, but Alex Cole Hamilton is doing a good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 56 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: A quick look at a few of the numbers, mostly deaths, shows we are moving much slower this time still, what was a week in March is about a month this time. Hopefully a mix of better treatments and less vulnerable people catching it will keep the death count as low as possible. Plus I don't think we'll ever know the true scale of what was hitting us in March/April or even earlier. Are there any educated estimates out there as to how many people would've had it in those days without knowing or being confirmed through a test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: In a hospital for example Are hospitals not meant to be safe and clean? Back in Mar/Apr, nurses were switching from non Covid to Covid wards on the same shift. Probably the Scot Gov will think this was a safe practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joondalupjambo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brian Dundas said: Here is the table I did earlier updated with Today's figures from Travelling Tabby Site really struggle to see how Fife is 2, but Stirling is 3 Volume of hospital beds available. More spare capacity in Fife than Stirling area. That might be on key reason. The SG have published information on the indicators that were used/ will be used when looking at Tier allocations. It foes explain a good bit more than I have so far read. Edited October 29, 2020 by joondalupjambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: Have a quit read of this, really well presented and gives us nice information about how people can catch the virus https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-10-28/a-room-a-bar-and-a-class-how-the-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html?fbclid=IwAR0N1TXZfWTArJsl6Y1oIGQbiNbZrbpGm7fOkUOlDOaka2J69m25IKsFLlQ I find it mental why they don't just put this message out everywhere.Leaflets through doors etc etc. Make things clear as daylight.Cause despite all the messages some folk just don't seem to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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