graygo Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Pubs can open from 6am to 6pm but can't serve alcohol? FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brian Dundas said: The debate is opening up in the medical community now https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54442386 Also a different German view from the one posted earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Ray Gin said: I think you'll find that in scientific terms that is a couple of dozen. In statistical terms it's practically **** all though, which is what he was clearly driving at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, graygo said: Pubs can open from 6am to 6pm but can't serve alcohol? FFS. That should keep them afloat. Next lockdown will be restaurants can open but not have customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: But do nothing about the massive number of cases in universities. Need that rent money after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, theshed said: I know you’re only going on what you have been told but it would be crazy not to be allowed a drink with your meal A couple can’t have a glass of wine with their meal is hard to believe but will find out soon enough BYOB 😎😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, Ron Burgundy said: That should keep them afloat. Next lockdown will be restaurants can open but not have customers. I remember years ago that pubs could only serve alcohol all day if they did food. Cue pubs getting in microwaves and sales of Rustler burgers going through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: How will they offer financial help to the hospitality sector?? Money from where, Westminster?? I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, graygo said: What time are we getting telt? According to bar staff in my local 14.50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Heartsmad1874 said: How will they offer financial help to the hospitality sector?? Money from where, Westminster?? I doubt it. maybe use the money that doncaster, maxwel et al wee hoping would go to celtic scottish football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 30 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: I think that's very possible. She really hates those that like a drink. 2 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: According to bar staff in my local 14.50. Our wee puritanical Obergruppenführer hates you, TRM. Try not to cry into your afternoon pint, mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, theshed said: I know you’re only going on what you have been told but it would be crazy not to be allowed a drink with your meal A couple can’t have a glass of wine with their meal is hard to believe but will find out soon enough I've got until my company year end to take my wife and I out for my annual Christmas party. We were booked in for a tasting meal on 25th and chances of it getting rescheduled before 31st are slim. Tasting menu with no booze. 'Sake. Surely an 6 drink restriction per person would be a far more reasonable shout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) Don't know if that photo that Hughesie posted is accurate or not but to say indoor attractions can stay open cause they are Covid secure whilst most if not all restaurants and bars have done everything they could to make their businesses safe can't. Real kick in the stains that if true. Edited October 7, 2020 by Heartsmad1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: Our wee puritanical Obergruppenführer hates you, TRM. Try not to cry into your afternoon pint, mate. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: According to bar staff in my local 14.50. Aye, just heard that on the radio. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Heartsmad1874 said: Don't know if that photo that Hughesie posted is accurate or not but to say indoor attractions can stay open cause they are Covid secure whilst most if not all restaurants and bars have done everything they could to make their businesses safe can't. Real kick in the stains that if true. There must be some other way (then again why is bevvying the most important part of our civil liberties?). Just more stringent measures surely. Staff need to ID folk and their addresses; Screens put up if need be; Hand sanitisers at every table; record (not individuals) number of times people have been asked to leave if continually raising voices; tougher licencing controls if officers visit premises and regulations are being broken; booking system and so on. That said, all needs to be backed up with evidence and makes a difference. Edit - as mentioned above the vast majority of hospitality venues are doing as much as they can, if not more. Edited October 7, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, graygo said: I remember years ago that pubs could only serve alcohol all day if they did food. Cue pubs getting in microwaves and sales of Rustler burgers going through the roof. Rustler burgers🥴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, graygo said: Pubs can open from 6am to 6pm but can't serve alcohol? FFS. Why the need to drink alcohol at all just now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Factor Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Why the need to drink alcohol at all just now? It gets us through the day reading your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Why the need to drink alcohol at all just now? Or ever. Bloody selfish people with their urge for alcohol. Why can't they just stick to the sober FACTS ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Brian Dundas said: I suspect that the venues are not the major problem, it is more the behaviour and decision making of customers after they have had a few drinks, or especially a lot of drinks. What evidence they have for this I don't know obviously The old symptoms / consequences v. root cause analysis. But is alcohol the root cause and not the pubs, or in reality it is the actions of humans that is the root cause? Or the government? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, EarnockJambo said: It gets us through the day reading your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Oh dear, supplier for Covid swabs is facing supply difficulties. Add that to the growing list of failings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Lord BJ said: Im not convinced we will see a ban on alcohol in resteraunts etc. It wouldn’t make a lot of sense not that counts for all that much. Neither did closing at 10pm when everyone piled into the streets and onto public transport, chippies together but they did that 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Lord BJ said: Im not convinced we will see a ban on alcohol in resteraunts etc. It wouldn’t make a lot of sense not that counts for all that much. Jason Leitch mentioned alcohol specifically yesterday. I found that quite telling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, The Roller said: Jason Leitch mentioned alcohol specifically yesterday. I found that quite telling As did Linda Bauld, Edinburgh University's top behavioural professor. She is on R. Scotland just now. Edit mentioned a few things. - Cluster spreading in Central Scotland is running out of control. - Poorly ventilated venues, such as pubs are a problem. - Infections and spreading among kids still low and even her kids school (no doubt private) have had a case but secondary level are taking good measures with teacher pupil contact adhering to strict social distancing. - There needs to be evidence (which she hasn't seen) that bringing forward closing time from 10 till 6 would work. If they do hospitality needs a financial package - Hospital admissions increasing (one day same as whole last week) - Already not enough non-Covid appointments / admissions catch up - Obvs govts have to look wider than just hospitals and impacts and balance decisions. - Govts need to get data, research and reasoning to public quicker. Waiting weeks on SAGE advice being published isn't acceptable. - Looking across world just now and in - out restrictions, impact on health, virtually no govt getting it close to 100% right. Edited October 7, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 The brewer Greene King has just announced that they are closing dozens of pubs with the loss of around about 800 jobs, they are blaming a slump in trade which has been made worse by the 10pm curfew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: The brewer Greene King has just announced that they are closing dozens of pubs with the loss of around about 800 jobs, they are blaming a slump in trade which has been made worse by the 10pm curfew. Is McCowans at Fountain Park not part of Greene King? Brilliant place to go for food and drinks so shame if that was to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Heartsmad1874 said: Oh dear, supplier for Covid swabs is facing supply difficulties. Add that to the growing list of failings. Not just Covid swabs but also blood tests for cancer & heart disease, some GP's are having to ration the use of blood tests. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54435226 Edited October 7, 2020 by Jambo-Jimbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Not just Covid swabs but also blood tests for cancer & heart disease, some GP's are having to ration the use of blood tests. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54435226 But Matt Han Cock says cancer patients will have to wait until Covid is under control. Both governments are a shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Lord BJ said: https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6132145/scotland-lockdown-pubs-rules-alcohol-sturgeon/amp/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebarweb The sun is running the restrictions story and reveals where it’s come from Mr Macleod said the screen grab had been flagged to him by a contact, and while he could not prove it was genuine, he believes it read as if it was government guidance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Heartsmad1874 said: Is McCowans at Fountain Park not part of Greene King? Brilliant place to go for food and drinks so shame if that was to happen. Don't know, never been in it, only time I'm anywhere near Fountain park is where we park the car for home games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 All bars and cafes in Brussels to close completely for a month from tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Why the need to drink alcohol at all just now? Go away you silly little clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 If this ‘leak’ proves to be true, then they’ve completely lost the plot.. I think they will come to regret this decision. (IMO) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, Heartsmad1874 said: Oh dear, supplier for Covid swabs is facing supply difficulties. Add that to the growing list of failings. Who's failings? You're not blaming the SG for that are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Go away you silly little clown Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, Radio Ga Ga said: If this ‘leak’ proves to be true, then they’ve completely lost the plot.. I think they will come to regret this decision. (IMO) How come? i think it is sensible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsmad1874 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, graygo said: Who's failings? You're not blaming the SG for that are you? The failings that have come from the response to this pandemic not just the SG, Westminster, Track and Trace, Test suppliers etc etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: How come? i think it is sensible Piss off you feckin Trolling roaster, the hospitality industry are NOT the cause of this current spike and you bloody well know it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Greene King to shut dozens of pubs and cost 800 jobs. I'm sure there will be more if pubs are forced to close by the SG: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54451739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Radio Ga Ga said: Piss off you feckin Trolling roaster, the hospitality industry are NOT the cause of this current spike and you bloody well know it! Households mixing is and this is where people meet up with other households less alcohol means less people breaking the rules or not caring and please refrain from name calling Edited October 7, 2020 by Jambo 4 Ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Households mixing is and this is where people meet up with other households less alcohol means less people breaking the rules or not caring and please refrain from name calling If the pubs are shut, people will meet in houses to drink, think about it, the closing of pubs won’t stop the consumption of alcohol. In fact I’d say that it is safer to drink in pubs with social distancing than gather unmanaged in a house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, Radio Ga Ga said: If the pubs are shut, people will meet in houses to drink, think about it, the closing of pubs won’t stop the consumption of alcohol. In fact I’d say that it is safer to drink in pubs with social distancing than gather unmanaged in a house. If people do the right thing then they won’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Radio Ga Ga said: Piss off you feckin Trolling roaster, the hospitality industry are NOT the cause of this current spike and you bloody well know it! Anyone with more than an ounce of common sense knows that hospitality is not the cause of the increase. The chance of catching Covid in a well run pub with all the measures in place must be close to ZERO. Supermarkets, buses etc are far more likely sources of transmission but, of course, they can't touch them. But the biggest cause is among those who blatantly flaunt the rules by holding mass gatherings in halls of residence, house parties etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Radio Ga Ga said: If the pubs are shut, people will meet in houses to drink, think about it, the closing of pubs won’t stop the consumption of alcohol. In fact I’d say that it is safer to drink in pubs with social distancing than gather unmanaged in a house. The verb "to think" will not really resonate with that particular poster, or indeed anyone in #scotgov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Ga Ga Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: If people do the right thing then they won’t Whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just now, Radio Ga Ga said: Whatever. It’s true and you know it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: If people do the right thing then they won’t Pubs and restaurants have in the main done "the right thing" as dictated to by the SG, now they are getting kicked in the baws with no scientific data to back up the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, graygo said: Pubs and restaurants have in the main done "the right thing" as dictated to by the SG, now they are getting kicked in the baws with no scientific data to back up the decision. Too many people are meeting up with more than one household in the pubs and get closer to each other than 2m - you only have to look at social media and you will often see people taking photos with each other next to other people in pubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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