Jambo-Jimbo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, vegas-voss said: US now has more deaths than China.New York has opened up field hospitals in Central park and at Flushing Meadows France now as well & the UK most probably. Italy, Spain, France & the US have all now had more deaths and in a shorter period than China did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Any reason why? I take it you reported it? No I mean the admin had posted above to say can we not make this thread political and when I read my response I thought it was a a bit political so just deleted it voluntarily. I am all for following the rules at the moment!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: No I mean the admin had posted above to say can we not make this thread political and when I read my response I thought it was a a bit political so just deleted it voluntarily. I am all for following the rules at the moment!!!! Sorry I didn’t see that, it will be hard to talk about this if politics are left out but hey ho. I never follow rules if I can help it. Edited March 31, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 34 minutes ago, kila said: Complete incompetence of those at the top running our government. It's becoming a bit like Trump's daily lies, maybe it is similar pages from Steve Bannon's playbook. Need skilled people to sort this mess out, not the clowns who thought they were the bees knees but are so obviously being found out. NHS is devolved in Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 8 hours ago, Homme said: It's certainly better than no face mask! Some have been given more thankfully, but in her particular size they had stock issues. must be a few in museums... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: I tell you one thing if I see one more blond haired backpacker whining on TV that they are stuck in the Galápagos Islands or deepest darkest Sri Lanka I am going to scream! What the hell were they still doing there as this pandemic approached anyway. We have so much more for the government to deal with than flying Tarquin home. Interesting that in the same article the WHO have advised against shutting borders and banning flights at this stage as there is no point. That’s surprised me. It’s a different few every day, I hope they’re isolated when they do come back. Did the WHO say why it’s against shutting borders and banning flights? Too late? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 C4 News have completely eviscerated the official response / information. Comprehensive outing of a wide range of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: It’s a different few every day, I hope they’re isolated when they do come back. Did the WHO say why it’s against shutting borders and banning flights? Too late? They said that once you have community transmission it doesn’t make any difference whether you have new cases flying in and actually the economic and social issues (i.e. people being stranded in the wrong counties all over the world) are more harmful than the additional spread. clearly once we have got it totally clamped down like say South Korea has that position changes and you need to be really strict on who comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Victorian said: Total dither and supply shortages in the testing as well. Now they're on about postal testing, despite outlining the risks involved with it regarding delays affecting results. For me there's a bit of a **** up going on. Rabbit in the headlights stuff. They need to sort the PPE first, then the ventilators...This focus on testing is a smokescreen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: France now as well & the UK most probably. Italy, Spain, France & the US have all now had more deaths and in a shorter period than China did. ‘Officially’ As with most Chinese disasters, natural or manmade I thinks it pretty debatable the ‘true’ figures from China will ever be known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Spellczech said: They need to sort the PPE first, then the ventilators...This focus on testing is a smokescreen. The BS about ppe and testing casts a lot of doubt on the info we've had about other resources. We've been deceived over a few things. There is no doubt whatsoever. We would be deceiving ourselves to believe anything else but visible results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Sorry if discussed already. It looks like the Fringe will be cancelled. This would be a disaster to the local economy. It’s going to take the world a long time to recover from this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Victorian said: The BS about ppe and testing casts a lot of doubt on the info we've had about other resources. We've been deceived over a few things. There is no doubt whatsoever. We would be deceiving ourselves to believe anything else but visible results. That's what I've always said about Gove. Can only trust his actions, never his words. Interesting that the doctor in the video above is saying all the same stuff I was saying on Daily Mail comments 2-3 weeks ago...I used to get sooooo many red arrows from people on there (any criticism of Boris and you got 17-20 red arrows within seconds ...like Tory Party HQ had 20 user accounts just clicking away...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, Spellczech said: must be a few in museums... You've lost me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, iantjambo said: Sorry if discussed already. It looks like the Fringe will be cancelled. This would be a disaster to the local economy. It’s going to take the world a long time to recover from this. Disaster is an exaggeration in the current context, a disaster would be lifting measures too early before things are safe and under control and flying in people from all over the world where things more than likely won’t be ‘safe’ yet and restarting things all over again. Don’t get me wrong, many businesses and people will be affected by it being cancelled but the economy will suffer a hell of a lot more if **** this up by rushing back to ‘normal’ too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Homme said: You've lost me. It's a 14th century plague mask - Some NHS staff will soon be left seeking anything they can find... Edited March 31, 2020 by Spellczech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Spellczech said: It's a 14th century plague mask - Some NHS staff will soon be left seeking anything they can find... Its a beauty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Spellczech said: That's what I've always said about Gove. Can only trust his actions, never his words. Interesting that the doctor in the video above is saying all the same stuff I was saying on Daily Mail comments 2-3 weeks ago...I used to get sooooo many red arrows from people on there (any criticism of Boris and you got 17-20 red arrows within seconds ...like Tory Party HQ had 20 user accounts just clicking away...) There's also an almighty puzzle to solve re what has gone on between the UK government, the Welsh government and Roche and the daily 5,000 tests the Welsh say they believed was secured in a side contract with Roche. Somebody is lying their arse off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ibrahim Tall said: Disaster is an exaggeration in the current context, a disaster would be lifting measures too early before things are safe and under control and flying in people from all over the world where things more than likely won’t be ‘safe’ yet and restarting things all over again. Don’t get me wrong, many businesses and people will be affected by it being cancelled but the economy will suffer a hell of a lot more if **** this up by rushing back to ‘normal’ too soon. I think, relative to the subject, that it could be classed as a disaster. It will likely cause many businesses to close down and people to lose jobs. I understand that there are more pressing matters to worry about at the minute but we still need to consider the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 13 year old boy died in London, youngest yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 31 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: They said that once you have community transmission it doesn’t make any difference whether you have new cases flying in and actually the economic and social issues (i.e. people being stranded in the wrong counties all over the world) are more harmful than the additional spread. clearly once we have got it totally clamped down like say South Korea has that position changes and you need to be really strict on who comes in. South Korea seem to have dealt with this as well as you can possibly do it, we should be doing whatever worked for them. It might not guarantee the same results obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, graygo said: 13 year old boy died in London, youngest yet. Ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/technology-52095331 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantjambo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, graygo said: 13 year old boy died in London, youngest yet. **** sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, graygo said: 13 year old boy died in London, youngest yet. 19 year old also today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadj Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/nbc24.com/amp/news/offbeat/un-baaaaa-lievable-goats-invade-locked-down-welsh-town Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve123 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) Scotland also has it's fair share of it in hospitals, I will not say any more as not my information to share but everyone needs to follow guidelines and stay safe !! Edited March 31, 2020 by steve123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, The Roller said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/technology-52095331 I've been doing one of these for the last week or so. https://covid.joinzoe.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, graygo said: I've been doing one of these for the last week or so. https://covid.joinzoe.com/ Signed up and will do likewise. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Brighton Jambo said: I tell you one thing if I see one more blond haired backpacker whining on TV that they are stuck in the Galápagos Islands or deepest darkest Sri Lanka I am going to scream! What the hell were they still doing there as this pandemic approached anyway. We have so much more for the government to deal with than flying Tarquin home. Interesting that in the same article the WHO have advised against shutting borders and banning flights at this stage as there is no point. That’s surprised me. I must admit I always think you take a risk going to these places. Of something like this happening. Government has promised to get people home. Hopefully all quarantined though don't think we are doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said: NHS is devolved in Scotland Also why we have less private health because the law is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 31 minutes ago, sadj said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/nbc24.com/amp/news/offbeat/un-baaaaa-lievable-goats-invade-locked-down-welsh-town They better be careful of those single guys 😱😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Peston all over twitter calling bullshit on Gove saying the chemicals are not available to test with. He's spoken to the Chemical industry trade body who has contacted its members tonight and there is no shortage. If there was they'd make more. Somebody is at the ****ing madam here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Government has promised to get people home. Hopefully all quarantined though don't think we are doing that. Nope. Flights still arriving from the USA this morning, no checks, no quarantine, Heathrow express to your left, enjoy your trip 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Nope. Flights still arriving from the USA this morning, no checks, no quarantine, Heathrow express to your left, enjoy your trip 👍 Indeed, from one hot spot to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Peston all over twitter calling bullshit on Gove saying the chemicals are not available to test with. He's spoken to the Chemical industry trade body who has contacted its members tonight and there is no shortage. If there was they'd make more. Somebody is at the ****ing madam here. Ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Nope. Flights still arriving from the USA this morning, no checks, no quarantine, Heathrow express to your left, enjoy your trip 👍 Edited March 31, 2020 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Wit's happening then? When will i be going back to work? Don't really want to if i'm honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo1874 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Wtaf , this is shocking https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/31/nhs-staff-gagged-over-coronavirus-protective-equipment-shortages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel eyes Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) https://i.postimg.cc/505CDYB1/EA14-C2-BE-4-BD5-47-CF-9131-C77-C2-E59191-C.jpg Harrods telling it how it is..... Edited March 31, 2020 by Angel eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 From what some people appear to be suggesting... If it is a policy to not test (window dressing testing), herd immunity rearing it's head again. No interest in knowing where the cases are indicates an acceptance it should spread fully. Load resources into the front line + surpress and delay in order to undershoot emergency resources at the peak (good optics) and continue to treat ongoing serious cases during a prolonged post-peak period. Achieve herd immunity as a byproduct in order to be quick out the blocks post-emergency to protect the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 49 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Peston all over twitter calling bullshit on Gove saying the chemicals are not available to test with. He's spoken to the Chemical industry trade body who has contacted its members tonight and there is no shortage. If there was they'd make more. Somebody is at the ****ing madam here. Is this herd immunity on the sly going here or what ? ****ing stinks Edited March 31, 2020 by vegas-voss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Victorian said: From what some people appear to be suggesting... If it is a policy to not test (window dressing testing), herd immunity rearing it's head again. No interest in knowing where the cases are indicates an acceptance it should spread fully. Load resources into the front line + surpress and delay in order to undershoot emergency resources at the peak (good optics) and continue to treat ongoing serious cases during a prolonged post-peak period. Achieve herd immunity as a byproduct in order to be quick out the blocks post-emergency to protect the economy. Your last word is all they give a **** about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, vegas-voss said: Your last word is all they give a **** about If it is the scenario I suggested, it places a mind numbing premium on immunity being resilient. Do we swallow 20,000+ dead and then discover nobody is immune in 6 months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Victorian said: If it is the scenario I suggested, it places a mind numbing premium on immunity being resilient. Do we swallow 20,000+ dead and then discover nobody is immune in 6 months? Scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zico Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Brighton Jambo said: They said that once you have community transmission it doesn’t make any difference whether you have new cases flying in and actually the economic and social issues (i.e. people being stranded in the wrong counties all over the world) are more harmful than the additional spread. clearly once we have got it totally clamped down like say South Korea has that position changes and you need to be really strict on who comes in. I’ve read that multiple times from multiple sources over the past few weeks. One of the social issues you refer to is that it becomes about stopping ‘them’ rather than about ‘us’ doing the right thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) Trump making a ,....... Trump of himself as usual tonight. You can use a scarf is his brilliant advice, instead of a mask. To be fair, probably because both are equally useless. Edited March 31, 2020 by graygo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 16 minutes ago, graygo said: Trump making a ,....... Trump of himself as usual tonight. You can use a scarf is his brilliant advice, instead of a mask. To be fair, probably because both are equally useless. I missed what he was originally alluding to (the complexity of the virus, probably) but caught something to the effect "it's like the dashboard of an aeroplane". I know I'm being petty but that's how much he gets on my tits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJAC? Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 All Trump has in his locker is the "I suspended travel from China" line. After that, he's a spent force. Zero about the here and now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionDJambo Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, J.T.F.Robertson said: I missed what he was originally alluding to (the complexity of the virus, probably) but caught something to the effect "it's like the dashboard of an aeroplane". I know I'm being petty but that's how much he gets on my tits. He was comparing how complex ventilators are. He is going on about how slow some in the US were to react to the virus. How it’s not just a flu. How it’s very serious. I might be remembering things wrong, but I’m thinking he was going on about the number of deaths from flu, as compared to Coronavirus, weeks ago, to downplay the seriousness of this virus. His early emphasis seemed to be on preventing, what he considered, an unnecessary hit on the US economy. Now that the brown stuff is about to hit the fan, he’s making out that he always knew how serious the virus could be for the US, and he was telling people this all along. How the Americans can’t see through him is an indication of how easily they can be manipulated by propaganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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