manaliveits105 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Not being able to go to Morocco is a plus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 8 hours ago, JimmyCant said: I’m not sure about resources in the wider NHS. Whether the bucket is bigger now than it was a year ago, I doubt it. What I can say is that there is a vaccinator crisis and they have less than half the number of vaccinators now than they had 6 months ago. In Lothian they have no mass facility for vaccination in Edinburgh city since EICC closed. All the mass venues are out of town and many people in their 80’s and 90’s have been sent miles away (40 miles in some cases)to Ingliston where the wait times have gone through the roof. Most of the minor venues in Edinburgh are open one day a week for flu and booster. The appointment system is at breaking point and isn’t fit for purpose. The housebound list is huge and people on that list face a wait of at least 6 weeks to get flu and booster, depending on their postcode.The rescheduling helpline is on its knees after a 25% natural staff wastage loss was not replaced. The same number of people in the vulnerable groups that took 4 months to get through completely for Covid 1st jabs, including housebound are expected by government to be done in 8 weeks. It’s operationally impossible at current staff and venue levels to do that and everyone at the top of the NHS knows it but hide under the bed hoping it goes away. In short, the rollout of Covid 1&2 was a comparative roaring success. Certification, Flu and Booster are a complete and utter shameful disaster. Interesting, thanks for sharing that insight. Sounds as though the attempts to bin blame on the public may be a bit unfair as the description above sounds like operational disarray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: 100, 000 daily cases of this fecking thing predicted by the middle/end of November. “ predicted “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 A 3 month Scotland wide study by scientists from Edinburgh Uni finds Scots who are vaccinated reduce their chance of dying from Covid by 90% for those over 40, and 100% for those in the 16 to 39 age group. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2113864 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, Beni said: A 3 month Scotland wide study by scientists from Edinburgh Uni finds Scots who are vaccinated reduce their chance of dying from Covid by 90% for those over 40, and 100% for those in the 16 to 39 age group. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2113864 I think the chances of dying from covid , non vaccinated if 16-39 is probably nearly 💯 anyway . Probably more chance of dying from Side effects of the vaccine . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 12 hours ago, LMc said: I thought it had been a bit quiet from a few posters who had recently joined. Looks like they have been keeping busy though. A guy in trackies, with the obligatory earwear, called Chaves ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Boab said: A guy in trackies, with the obligatory earwear, called Chaves ? What a snooty comment ! Dearie me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: What a snooty comment ! Dearie me If the cap fits ! In fact, that's all that's missing with that arsehole for a full house ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Boab said: If the cap fits ! In fact, that's all that's missing with that arsehole for a full house ! 😂😂😂 dearie me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: think the chances of dying from covid , non vaccinated if 16-39 is probably nearly 💯 anyway . 17 out of 35500 died, so yes it's a low chance, but now that a vaccine is available why take the risk? 20 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Probably more chance of dying from Side effects of the vaccine . "Probably" is doing a hell of a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: 😂😂😂 dearie me ! Exactly what I said when I watched that clip. Hope the hospital staff got a bit of light relief watching that tube in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 13 hours ago, LMc said: I thought it had been a bit quiet from a few posters who had recently joined. Looks like they have been keeping busy though. Jamie Freeman 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I am a free man of the land 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 25 minutes ago, Boab said: Exactly what I said when I watched that clip. Hope the hospital staff got a bit of light relief watching that tube in action. I only got the “ if the cap fits “ eventually lol good play on words if intentional ! 😂 I think it’s “ choob” not “ tube “ ( Scottish ! ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, Beni said: 17 out of 35500 died, so yes it's a low chance, but now that a vaccine is available why take the risk? "Probably" is doing a hell of a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Well it’s their choice if they wish to Take it or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 https://apple.news/A7iaKdb6YRlGZ059gwKodzg Sky looked at the National figures regarding. Covid19 deaths and although it looked alarming when they extrapolated the figures it actually proved vaccines were protecting the elderly. More than 800 double-vaccinated people in Scotland have died from Covid-19, with the majority of the deaths taking place after restrictions were effectively abandoned. Public Health Scotland found that of the nearly 600 people who have died of coronavirus since social distancing rules were lifted on August 9, almost 80 per cent were aged over 70. Its report notes that many of the victims also had other illnesses. A quarter of the people currently being admitted to hospital with coronavirus in Scotland are aged over 80. The National Records of Scotland (NRS) says that more than 11,400 people have now died in Scotland with confirmed or suspected coronavirus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said: https://apple.news/A7iaKdb6YRlGZ059gwKodzg Sky looked at the National figures regarding. Covid19 deaths and although it looked alarming when they extrapolated the figures it actually proved vaccines were protecting the elderly. More than 800 double-vaccinated people in Scotland have died from Covid-19, with the majority of the deaths taking place after restrictions were effectively abandoned. Public Health Scotland found that of the nearly 600 people who have died of coronavirus since social distancing rules were lifted on August 9, almost 80 per cent were aged over 70. Its report notes that many of the victims also had other illnesses. A quarter of the people currently being admitted to hospital with coronavirus in Scotland are aged over 80. The National Records of Scotland (NRS) says that more than 11,400 people have now died in Scotland with confirmed or suspected coronavirus. So exactly the same age groups etc who died from covid before the vaccines ? Not exactly surprising . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said: https://apple.news/A7iaKdb6YRlGZ059gwKodzg Sky looked at the National figures regarding. Covid19 deaths and although it looked alarming when they extrapolated the figures it actually proved vaccines were protecting the elderly. More than 800 double-vaccinated people in Scotland have died from Covid-19, with the majority of the deaths taking place after restrictions were effectively abandoned. Public Health Scotland found that of the nearly 600 people who have died of coronavirus since social distancing rules were lifted on August 9, almost 80 per cent were aged over 70. Its report notes that many of the victims also had other illnesses. A quarter of the people currently being admitted to hospital with coronavirus in Scotland are aged over 80. The National Records of Scotland (NRS) says that more than 11,400 people have now died in Scotland with confirmed or suspected coronavirus. So exactly the same age groups etc who died from covid before the vaccines ? Not exactly surprising . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Most of these people are ****ing nuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroondevo52 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 My brother's just booked flights from South Africa to visit my our mum at the end of November, not sure that will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Boab said: If the cap fits ! In fact, that's all that's missing with that arsehole for a full house ! I agree Bob any adult in public wearing trackies (usually grey) outwith sports is usually pondlife who need rounded up and executed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 43 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: Most of these people are ****ing nuts! What a disgusting women . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 47 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: Most of these people are ****ing nuts! Honestly, actually lold, absolute **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Taffin said: Interesting, thanks for sharing that insight. Sounds as though the attempts to bin blame on the public may be a bit unfair as the description above sounds like operational disarray. We’ll there is an element of public blame by those who just ignore the appointments and expect another one immediately but mostly it’s an organisational shambles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 39 minutes ago, Jeffros Furios said: I agree Bob any adult in public wearing trackies (usually grey) outwith sports is usually pondlife who need rounded up and executed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Quite telling that the bam went into the boozer at opening time with no one in the place. Try that stunt on a Friday night ! Medal would have been pinned onto her nose ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Sluggish vaccination rate (57% fully vaccinated) sees Latvia become the first European country to bring back lockdown, closing almost all shops, restaurants, schools and entertainment venues until 15 November: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/20/latvia-enters-month-long-covid-lockdown-as-fourth-wave-breaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Ray Gin said: Sluggish vaccination rate (57% fully vaccinated) sees Latvia become the first European country to bring back lockdown, closing almost all shops, restaurants, schools and entertainment venues until 15 November: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/20/latvia-enters-month-long-covid-lockdown-as-fourth-wave-breaks Seems to be a surge of cases all over Europe right now, with Poland's infection rate doubling in the last week. As was announced yesterday Morocco banning flights to and from the UK, but they also banned flights to and from Germany & The Netherlands as well, and for the same reasons as they did for the UK, so that must mean that cases in Germany & the Netherlands must be rising as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Scottish numbers: 21 October 2021 Summary 2,355 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-413; down from 2,639 a week ago] 33,741 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [-7,815] 7.4% of these were positive [+0.3%] 32 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+6] 58 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+7] 917 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+27] 4,297,028 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,886,176 have received their second dose [+2,912; +2,290] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area WHO Today Yesterday 19 Oct 18 Oct 17 Oct 16 Oct 15 Oct ... 1 Oct Scotland 4 325 331 -6 327 317 319 313 310 ... 345 Clackmannanshire 4 556 521 +35 511 489 448 417 392 ... 328 West Lothian 4 487 476 +11 467 448 459 455 431 ... 504 Stirling 4 461 461 0 462 464 478 502 495 ... 366 Falkirk 4 443 463 -20 451 429 401 371 354 ... 421 Fife 4 438 442 -4 439 428 426 412 401 ... 407 East Ayrshire 4 436 444 -8 415 413 388 368 351 ... 440 East Dunbartonshire 4 396 394 +2 392 351 334 341 302 ... 382 South Lanarkshire 4 395 399 -4 392 360 359 338 332 ... 382 North Lanarkshire 4 384 387 -3 383 356 347 342 352 ... 442 Scottish Borders 4 372 359 +13 364 342 342 326 313 ... 188 North Ayrshire 4 348 355 -7 356 349 342 349 343 ... 441 Dundee City 4 342 354 -12 367 370 380 392 399 ... 427 Aberdeenshire 4 329 352 -23 355 356 382 383 392 ... 339 East Renfrewshire 4 326 350 -24 352 344 356 356 383 ... 354 South Ayrshire 4 324 310 +14 298 292 287 273 261 ... 541 Angus 4 321 331 -10 341 339 338 309 310 ... 234 Renfrewshire 4 313 345 -32 353 348 351 343 336 ... 371 East Lothian 4 214 306 301 +5 318 325 329 306 306 ... 265 Moray 4 302 332 -30 320 323 322 332 329 ... 231 West Dunbartonshire 4 293 303 -10 310 294 288 298 297 ... 437 Inverclyde 4 284 267 +17 234 232 230 230 223 ... 365 Perth & Kinross 4 283 263 +20 266 251 278 259 254 ... 304 Argyll & Bute 4 273 277 -4 273 248 250 249 241 ... 304 Aberdeen City 4 260 268 -8 262 257 261 262 269 ... 292 Dumfries & Galloway 4 260 260 0 243 228 247 239 246 ... 361 Glasgow City 4 236 248 -12 243 236 237 238 242 ... 328 Edinburgh City 4 234 233 +1 235 240 249 251 244 ... 238 Highland 4 211 232 232 0 214 209 215 207 215 ... 168 Na h-Eileanan Siar 4 223 208 +15 185 155 140 151 136 ... 234 Midlothian 4 221 249 -28 263 257 267 269 267 ... 327 Orkney Islands 3 121 125 -4 125 116 103 103 85 ... 85 Shetlands 3 92 79 +13 70 83 92 83 83 ... 70 7-day averages Today Yesterday 19 Oct 18 Oct 17 Oct 16 Oct 15 Oct ... 1 Oct Tests 29844 30772 -928 29939 29705 29865 30076 30497 ... 35457 Cases 2541 2581 -40 2555 2476 2491 2447 2424 ... 2694 Positivity rate % 9.0 8.9 +0.1 9.0 8.8 8.8 8.7 8.5 ... 8.2 Deaths 20 19 +1 20 20 20 20 20 ... 19 All Vaccinations 5227 5603 -376 5895 6181 6890 7451 7757 ... 6572 1st Dose 3117 3427 -310 3699 3999 4611 5147 5422 ... 3705 2nd Dose 2110 2176 -66 2196 2182 2279 2304 2335 ... 2867 All in hospital 865 864 +1 868 877 888 903 918 ... 1009 Non-ICU 817 817 0 821 829 839 852 865 ... 935 ICU 48 47 +1 47 48 49 51 53 ... 74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 45 minutes ago, redjambo said: 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area WHO Today Yesterday 19 Oct 18 Oct 17 Oct 16 Oct 15 Oct ... 1 Oct Scotland 4 325 331 -6 327 317 319 313 310 ... 345 Clackmannanshire 4 556 521 +35 511 489 448 417 392 ... 328 West Lothian 4 487 476 +11 467 448 459 455 431 ... 504 Stirling 4 461 461 0 462 464 478 502 495 ... 366 Falkirk 4 443 463 -20 451 429 401 371 354 ... 421 Fife 4 438 442 -4 439 428 426 412 401 ... 407 East Ayrshire 4 436 444 -8 415 413 388 368 351 ... 440 East Dunbartonshire 4 396 394 +2 392 351 334 341 302 ... 382 South Lanarkshire 4 395 399 -4 392 360 359 338 332 ... 382 North Lanarkshire 4 384 387 -3 383 356 347 342 352 ... 442 Scottish Borders 4 372 359 +13 364 342 342 326 313 ... 188 North Ayrshire 4 348 355 -7 356 349 342 349 343 ... 441 Dundee City 4 342 354 -12 367 370 380 392 399 ... 427 Aberdeenshire 4 329 352 -23 355 356 382 383 392 ... 339 East Renfrewshire 4 326 350 -24 352 344 356 356 383 ... 354 South Ayrshire 4 324 310 +14 298 292 287 273 261 ... 541 Angus 4 321 331 -10 341 339 338 309 310 ... 234 Renfrewshire 4 313 345 -32 353 348 351 343 336 ... 371 East Lothian 4 214 306 301 +5 318 325 329 306 306 ... 265 Moray 4 302 332 -30 320 323 322 332 329 ... 231 West Dunbartonshire 4 293 303 -10 310 294 288 298 297 ... 437 Inverclyde 4 284 267 +17 234 232 230 230 223 ... 365 Perth & Kinross 4 283 263 +20 266 251 278 259 254 ... 304 Argyll & Bute 4 273 277 -4 273 248 250 249 241 ... 304 Aberdeen City 4 260 268 -8 262 257 261 262 269 ... 292 Dumfries & Galloway 4 260 260 0 243 228 247 239 246 ... 361 Glasgow City 4 236 248 -12 243 236 237 238 242 ... 328 Edinburgh City 4 234 233 +1 235 240 249 251 244 ... 238 Highland 4 211 232 232 0 214 209 215 207 215 ... 168 Na h-Eileanan Siar 4 223 208 +15 185 155 140 151 136 ... 234 Midlothian 4 221 249 -28 263 257 267 269 267 ... 327 Orkney Islands 3 121 125 -4 125 116 103 103 85 ... 85 Shetlands 3 92 79 +13 70 83 92 83 83 ... 70 7-day averages Today Yesterday 19 Oct 18 Oct 17 Oct 16 Oct 15 Oct ... 1 Oct Tests 29844 30772 -928 29939 29705 29865 30076 30497 ... 35457 Cases 2541 2581 -40 2555 2476 2491 2447 2424 ... 2694 Positivity rate % 9.0 8.9 +0.1 9.0 8.8 8.8 8.7 8.5 ... 8.2 Deaths 20 19 +1 20 20 20 20 20 ... 19 All Vaccinations 5227 5603 -376 5895 6181 6890 7451 7757 ... 6572 1st Dose 3117 3427 -310 3699 3999 4611 5147 5422 ... 3705 2nd Dose 2110 2176 -66 2196 2182 2279 2304 2335 ... 2867 All in hospital 865 864 +1 868 877 888 903 918 ... 1009 Non-ICU 817 817 0 821 829 839 852 865 ... 935 ICU 48 47 +1 47 48 49 51 53 ... 74 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryheart Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 6 hours ago, maroondevo52 said: My brother's just booked flights from South Africa to visit my our mum at the end of November, not sure that will happen. It should happen. On 4 September the 7 day rolling rate in Scotland was 785.7 per 100,000. Today it is 324.6 and figures have been in the low 300s for over three weeks now. Since the late August/early September explosion when, incidentally, countries were no banning Brits from entry, the figures in Scotland have been fairly steady. England is a bit behind the trend as the schools returned later. Interestingly Morocco is not banning Brits, just direct flights from the UK, meaning with a stopover you could still go there on holiday. I'm not quite sure what the point of it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 39 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: 👍 Welcome home, TRM! How was your trip down south? I hope it wasn't a shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 9 hours ago, JamesM48 said: “ predicted “ Going by the information. It's a well educated guess, James. I'll take their facts well before yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 40 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Going by the information. It's a well educated guess, James. I'll take their facts well before yours. Well Im not so sure about that their “ expert” “ predictions “ have been all over the place and wildly inaccurate at times . Time will tell although I’m not sitting ever day obsessing about numbers . I’ve got a life to live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 https://apple.news/AloA59_g_RGilAHaZPQ3bbg A third dose of the Pfizer vaccine provides “excellent” immunity, scientists have said, after the first full trial of the booster showed an additional jab raises protection by a further 95 per cent. In a study of 10,000 people, those who received a third injection of the Pfizer vaccine almost a year after their first two saw protection against symptomatic infection soar compared with those who had had just two doses. An earlier study, looking at real world data from Israel, found a similar boost in protection against serious illness. This means that any waning of the first two doses is more than compensated for by the third, scientists said. Since its early introduction of a booster programme, Israel has seen a steady fall in its case rates and hospital admissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, redjambo said: Welcome home, TRM! How was your trip down south? I hope it wasn't a shambles. It was good.🍺🍺🍺🍺 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, henryheart said: It should happen. On 4 September the 7 day rolling rate in Scotland was 785.7 per 100,000. Today it is 324.6 and figures have been in the low 300s for over three weeks now. Since the late August/early September explosion when, incidentally, countries were no banning Brits from entry, the figures in Scotland have been fairly steady. England is a bit behind the trend as the schools returned later. Interestingly Morocco is not banning Brits, just direct flights from the UK, meaning with a stopover you could still go there on holiday. I'm not quite sure what the point of it is? Germany & The Netherlands as well and for the same reasons why they have stopped flights from the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 More on the boosters. Leitch said the other day that the over 80s were done. He had to admit he made an arse of it and seems to have suggested that care homes have been done. Wrong again. He also now says that the qualifying people (over 80s and others) will be done by mid November. In the community, I know of an infirm 93 year old who has heard nothing. They phoned the helpline today and were told there was nothing available for the next 2 months. The GP has already said that they will not be involved. I'll be phoning the local MSP about this very soon. An omni-shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, Victorian said: More on the boosters. Leitch said the other day that the over 80s were done. He had to admit he made an arse of it and seems to have suggested that care homes have been done. Wrong again. He also now says that the qualifying people (over 80s and others) will be done by mid November. In the community, I know of an infirm 93 year old who has heard nothing. They phoned the helpline today and were told there was nothing available for the next 2 months. The GP has already said that they will not be involved. I'll be phoning the local MSP about this very soon. An omni-shambles. There is zero chance of all over 80’s being done by mid November (see my post above) aside from which, unprocessed housebound visits are well into 4 figures in Lothian alone. Most of those have no chance of being vaccinated this side of Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: There is zero chance of all over 80’s being done by mid November (see my post above) aside from which, unprocessed housebound visits are well into 4 figures in Lothian alone. Most of those have no chance of being vaccinated this side of Christmas. So it would seem. So the dissemination of inaccurate and/or misleading information by people who should know better is all the more appalling. Over 50s in England have begun to access their boosters. In Scotland they've already sold the pies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said: It was good.🍺🍺🍺🍺 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzroy Pointon Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Des Lynam said: Most of these people are ****ing nuts! He did the best thing there in not rising to it. Okay, not a problem, thank you, goodbye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, Victorian said: So it would seem. So the dissemination of inaccurate and/or misleading information by people who should know better is all the more appalling. Over 50s in England have begun to access their boosters. In Scotland they've already sold the pies. Just about every MSP in Lothian has a case file of complaints and concerns, so they know what the reality is, therefore the SG knows what the reality is. God forbid that the reality gets released to the public though. Even opposition MSP’s are keeping stum. Middle management downwards in the vaccination programme are tearing their hair out with what’s happening versus the sugar coats and downright lies being put out by Leitch etc. I could say much much more but I’m in an ITK position so I’ll keep it general. But it really is a shambles and something has to give or we’re going to have literally thousands of elderly and vulnerable not getting the flu vaccine they need. That’s before Boosters are even given a second thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Victorian said: More on the boosters. Leitch said the other day that the over 80s were done. He had to admit he made an arse of it and seems to have suggested that care homes have been done. Wrong again. He also now says that the qualifying people (over 80s and others) will be done by mid November. In the community, I know of an infirm 93 year old who has heard nothing. They phoned the helpline today and were told there was nothing available for the next 2 months. The GP has already said that they will not be involved. I'll be phoning the local MSP about this very soon. An omni-shambles. Yes, there seems to have been a lower profile given to the booster, in terms of publicity, messaging etc both in Scotland and rUK. I didn't think there was any difference in terms of roll-out between the nations so it's surprising to hear that over 50s are being invited in England. Seems like both Govts have been far too slow on this and, I agree, it's been a bit of a shambles so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Boy Daniel said: https://apple.news/A7iaKdb6YRlGZ059gwKodzg Sky looked at the National figures regarding. Covid19 deaths and although it looked alarming when they extrapolated the figures it actually proved vaccines were protecting the elderly. More than 800 double-vaccinated people in Scotland have died from Covid-19, with the majority of the deaths taking place after restrictions were effectively abandoned. Public Health Scotland found that of the nearly 600 people who have died of coronavirus since social distancing rules were lifted on August 9, almost 80 per cent were aged over 70. Its report notes that many of the victims also had other illnesses. A quarter of the people currently being admitted to hospital with coronavirus in Scotland are aged over 80. The National Records of Scotland (NRS) says that more than 11,400 people have now died in Scotland with confirmed or suspected coronavirus. Agree with that conclusion. However the unacceptable time lag between dose 2 and booster for the elderly (70yo +) is giving the anti-vaxxers an excuse to proclaim (again) that vaccines are pointless - when its most likely the waning immunity 6 months after dose 2 which is causing most of these deaths. If the rate of booster jabs doesn't increase, some of those risks will permeate down the age groups as their immunity starts to wane too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Today's figures show that Scotland has given 400,511 boosters thus far. England has given 4,269,111. That puts Scotland marginally behind the rate down south (approx 0.2% on a comparative population basis). However, if you look back to the initial rollout of vaccines, Scotland was well behind the curve in the first two or three months, allegedly due to the SG focus on Care Homes. I don't know if the SG has repeated the priorities of the 1st round, as they haven't broken down the figures yet. England has helpfully published a breakdown by age group, that shows the progress being made. The U50s given a booster will probably be in front line Health or Care roles. Boosters 12-17 1,570 0.0% 18-24 48,172 1.0% 25-29 71,584 1.9% 30-34 90,608 2.4% 35-39 103,655 2.8% 40-44 123,842 3.6% 45-49 162,497 4.5% 50-54 252,753 6.5% 55-59 278,788 7.4% 60-64 248,673 7.8% 65-69 237,181 8.5% 70-74 521,792 18.5% 75-79 733,885 36.5% 80+ 1,391,573 48.7% Edited October 21, 2021 by Footballfirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 The flu jab seems to be running late this year . Positive it’s usually earlier than this usually . My old friend friend who’s 80 hasn’t heard anything about a booster jag . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said: In September I booked an appointment in Boots for my wife and myself to get our flu jabs. These were to be done last Friday. I got a phone call from Boots the day before at 4pm to say our appointment had been cancelled. They had supply but there were logistics issues. The lady on the call said we would be contacted during the first week in November and that we would be given an appointment for that week. We will see..... My other friend got his flu jab today . He said he just phoned up his surgery and got an appointment . Apparently your meant To wait till you hear from your practice . I’ll wait . I’m in no rush for it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 11 hours ago, Des Lynam said: Most of these people are ****ing nuts! Aye and so are their supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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