XB52 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, jambos are go! said: It appears that the death rate in Scotland is around double the UK death rate and has been for some time. It would seem that the Scottish Government is not being challenged in this. Why? Cases were much higher in Scotland a month ago and deaths follow a few weeks later. Cases much higher in rUK now so would expect death figures to climb in a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Taffin said: England is doing okay just now with it imo given there's almost no restrictions. By design? I doubt it. By sheer luck? That's what I'd bet on! UK nation with some restrictions - case rates down by 60% over the last 5 weeks UK nation without restrictions - case rates up by 60% over the same 5 weeks See, it's dead easy to find some stat that proves/disproves arguments or perceptions. There are explanations for most figures, but probably not worth arguing about. Looking at the current UK figures, week on week Cases are up 13.8%, Hospitalisations are up 6.9%, Deaths are up 5.4%. While individual nations may have their ups and downs, in my opinion the UK's vaccination levels are probably about 3%-5% below the threshold where those numbers would be suppressed considerably. Scotland's death rate and hospital numbers remain disappointingly higher that rUK. I don't know the reason why, but at least deaths have plateaued over the last month, while cases and hospitalisations have fallen, Let's hope the death figures eventually catch up with the case and hospitalisation trends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, jambos are go! said: It appears that the death rate in Scotland is around double the UK death rate and has been for some time. It would seem that the Scottish Government is not being challenged in this. Why? It's baffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 54 minutes ago, XB52 said: Cases were much higher in Scotland a month ago and deaths follow a few weeks later. Cases much higher in rUK now so would expect death figures to climb in a few weeks. Cases have been higher in England for a month now but deaths haven't followed. Most of the infections are in school years 7-11, so maybe that's why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: UK nation with some restrictions - case rates down by 60% over the last 5 weeks UK nation without restrictions - case rates up by 60% over the same 5 weeks Edit: misread that sorry. Quote See, it's dead easy to find some stat that proves/disproves arguments or perceptions. There are explanations for most figures, but probably not worth arguing about. Don't disagree. I was only pointing out that bashing England based on UK numbers when nations who still have restrictions have higher hospitalisations per 100k makes no sense within itself. Quote Looking at the current UK figures, week on week Cases are up 13.8%, Hospitalisations are up 6.9%, Deaths are up 5.4%. While individual nations may have their ups and downs, in my opinion the UK's vaccination levels are probably about 3%-5% below the threshold where those numbers would be suppressed considerably. Scotland's death rate and hospital numbers remain disappointingly higher that rUK. I don't know the reason why, but at least deaths have plateaued over the last month, while cases and hospitalisations have fallen, Let's hope the death figures eventually catch up with the case and hospitalisation trends We're hopefully very much on the home straight and the extra vaccinations you think we need happen soon! 👍 Edited October 16, 2021 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just now, Taffin said: When was that out of interest? Scotland's 7 day average case rate was 6,126 five weeks ago today. It is 2,447 today. (down 60%) England's 7 day average case rate was 21,039 five weeks ago yesterday. It was 33,749 yesterday (up 60%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 hour ago, jambos are go! said: It appears that the death rate in Scotland is around double the UK death rate and has been for some time. It would seem that the Scottish Government is not being challenged in this. Why? Is she killing them herself ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: Scotland's 7 day average case rate was 6,126 five weeks ago today. It is 2,447 today. (down 60%) England's 7 day average case rate was 21,039 five weeks ago yesterday. It was 33,749 yesterday (up 60%) Cheers 👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: Is she killing them herself ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, Taffin said: Cheers 👍👍 My numbers are actually meaningless, as my point was more about being able to pick out stats that support/rebut/refute an argument without the full context behind those figures, i.e. I could offer an opinion why Scotland and England have gone in different directions in recent weeks, such as vaccination rates or schools returning. In general, it's always better to look at larger data blocks than make arguments out of who is up or down up/down this week. Making arguments on a limited basis is often political or just point scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Scottish numbers: 17 October 2021 Summary 2,666 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+85; up from 2,363 a week ago] 27,944 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [-1,040] 10.0% of these were positive [+0.5%] 2 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are now generally closed at weekends) [1-9] 45 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-2] 829 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-12] 4,286,044 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,877,849 have received their second dose [+3,912; +1,883] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 The latest trend stats: 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area WHO Today Yesterday 15 Oct 14 Oct 13 Oct 12 Oct 11 Oct ... 1 Oct Scotland 4 319 313 +6 310 308 309 318 320 ... 345 Stirling 4 478 502 -24 495 479 471 478 495 ... 366 West Lothian 4 459 455 +4 431 433 441 465 480 ... 504 Clackmannanshire 4 448 417 +31 392 322 298 263 263 ... 328 Fife 4 426 412 +14 401 392 396 408 406 ... 407 Falkirk 4 401 371 +30 354 362 366 379 394 ... 421 East Ayrshire 4 388 368 +20 351 368 377 394 405 ... 440 Aberdeenshire 4 382 383 -1 392 377 378 403 404 ... 339 Dundee City 4 380 392 -12 399 408 427 437 435 ... 427 South Lanarkshire 4 359 338 +21 332 321 313 319 333 ... 382 East Renfrewshire 4 356 356 0 383 380 376 375 373 ... 354 Renfrewshire 4 351 343 +8 336 332 309 304 307 ... 371 North Lanarkshire 4 347 342 +5 352 351 342 371 378 ... 442 North Ayrshire 4 342 349 -7 343 346 358 342 341 ... 441 Scottish Borders 4 342 326 +16 313 305 322 335 336 ... 188 Angus 4 338 309 +29 310 308 304 301 293 ... 234 East Dunbartonshire 4 334 341 -7 302 295 294 297 312 ... 382 East Lothian 4 214 329 306 +23 306 301 294 258 246 ... 265 Moray 4 322 332 -10 329 319 324 355 357 ... 231 West Dunbartonshire 4 288 298 -10 297 292 299 310 314 ... 437 South Ayrshire 4 287 273 +14 261 234 237 255 245 ... 541 Perth & Kinross 4 278 259 +19 254 253 288 295 294 ... 304 Midlothian 4 267 269 -2 267 264 246 246 248 ... 327 Aberdeen City 4 261 262 -1 269 253 248 262 272 ... 292 Argyll & Bute 4 250 249 +1 241 250 240 241 239 ... 304 Edinburgh City 4 249 251 -2 244 240 244 246 231 ... 238 Dumfries & Galloway 4 247 239 +8 246 266 271 289 308 ... 361 Glasgow City 4 237 238 -1 242 251 254 262 273 ... 328 Inverclyde 4 230 230 0 223 239 257 258 257 ... 365 Highland 4 211 215 207 +8 215 220 211 217 207 ... 168 Na h-Eileanan Siar 3 140 151 -11 136 151 125 136 132 ... 234 Orkney Islands 3 103 103 0 85 71 98 71 76 ... 85 Shetland Islands 3 92 83 +9 83 87 109 127 127 ... 70 7-day averages Today Yesterday 15 Oct 14 Oct 13 Oct 12 Oct 11 Oct ... 1 Oct Tests 29865 30076 -211 30497 30548 30827 32422 32702 ... 35457 Cases 2491 2447 +44 2424 2405 2412 2480 2501 ... 2694 Positivity rate % 8.8 8.7 +0.1 8.5 8.4 8.4 8.2 8.2 ... 8.2 Deaths 20 20 0 20 17 19 19 18 ... 19 All Vaccinations 6890 7451 -561 7757 8099 8220 8393 8676 ... 6572 1st Dose 4611 5147 -536 5422 5733 5850 6005 6169 ... 3705 2nd Dose 2279 2304 -25 2335 2366 2370 2388 2507 ... 2867 All in hospital 888 903 -15 918 932 943 953 962 ... 1009 Non-ICU 839 852 -13 865 877 885 893 900 ... 935 ICU 49 51 -2 53 55 58 60 62 ... 74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, redjambo said: 4,286,044 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,877,849 have received their second dose [+3,912; +1,883] In addition to the daily dose 1/2 figures, it appears that the "booster" programme is making good progress. The cumulative "booster" figures only started being reported in the middle of last week. The current total is running at 301,878. The last three days numbers were 20,768, 21,161, and 19,493. I assume that the booster numbers are a combination of front line health care staff, care home residents and the elderly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, redjambo said: The latest trend stats: 7-day per-100,000 cases Council Area WHO Today Yesterday 15 Oct 14 Oct 13 Oct 12 Oct 11 Oct ... 1 Oct Scotland 4 319 313 +6 310 308 309 318 320 ... 345 Stirling 4 478 502 -24 495 479 471 478 495 ... 366 West Lothian 4 459 455 +4 431 433 441 465 480 ... 504 Clackmannanshire 4 448 417 +31 392 322 298 263 263 ... 328 Fife 4 426 412 +14 401 392 396 408 406 ... 407 Falkirk 4 401 371 +30 354 362 366 379 394 ... 421 East Ayrshire 4 388 368 +20 351 368 377 394 405 ... 440 Aberdeenshire 4 382 383 -1 392 377 378 403 404 ... 339 Dundee City 4 380 392 -12 399 408 427 437 435 ... 427 South Lanarkshire 4 359 338 +21 332 321 313 319 333 ... 382 East Renfrewshire 4 356 356 0 383 380 376 375 373 ... 354 Renfrewshire 4 351 343 +8 336 332 309 304 307 ... 371 North Lanarkshire 4 347 342 +5 352 351 342 371 378 ... 442 North Ayrshire 4 342 349 -7 343 346 358 342 341 ... 441 Scottish Borders 4 342 326 +16 313 305 322 335 336 ... 188 Angus 4 338 309 +29 310 308 304 301 293 ... 234 East Dunbartonshire 4 334 341 -7 302 295 294 297 312 ... 382 East Lothian 4 214 329 306 +23 306 301 294 258 246 ... 265 Moray 4 322 332 -10 329 319 324 355 357 ... 231 West Dunbartonshire 4 288 298 -10 297 292 299 310 314 ... 437 South Ayrshire 4 287 273 +14 261 234 237 255 245 ... 541 Perth & Kinross 4 278 259 +19 254 253 288 295 294 ... 304 Midlothian 4 267 269 -2 267 264 246 246 248 ... 327 Aberdeen City 4 261 262 -1 269 253 248 262 272 ... 292 Argyll & Bute 4 250 249 +1 241 250 240 241 239 ... 304 Edinburgh City 4 249 251 -2 244 240 244 246 231 ... 238 Dumfries & Galloway 4 247 239 +8 246 266 271 289 308 ... 361 Glasgow City 4 237 238 -1 242 251 254 262 273 ... 328 Inverclyde 4 230 230 0 223 239 257 258 257 ... 365 Highland 4 211 215 207 +8 215 220 211 217 207 ... 168 Na h-Eileanan Siar 3 140 151 -11 136 151 125 136 132 ... 234 Orkney Islands 3 103 103 0 85 71 98 71 76 ... 85 Shetland Islands 3 92 83 +9 83 87 109 127 127 ... 70 7-day averages Today Yesterday 15 Oct 14 Oct 13 Oct 12 Oct 11 Oct ... 1 Oct Tests 29865 30076 -211 30497 30548 30827 32422 32702 ... 35457 Cases 2491 2447 +44 2424 2405 2412 2480 2501 ... 2694 Positivity rate % 8.8 8.7 +0.1 8.5 8.4 8.4 8.2 8.2 ... 8.2 Deaths 20 20 0 20 17 19 19 18 ... 19 All Vaccinations 6890 7451 -561 7757 8099 8220 8393 8676 ... 6572 1st Dose 4611 5147 -536 5422 5733 5850 6005 6169 ... 3705 2nd Dose 2279 2304 -25 2335 2366 2370 2388 2507 ... 2867 All in hospital 888 903 -15 918 932 943 953 962 ... 1009 Non-ICU 839 852 -13 865 877 885 893 900 ... 935 ICU 49 51 -2 53 55 58 60 62 ... 74 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Pupkin Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) Had my first dose of rage over all this today.. Was at The Vue at Ocean Terminal and as I got out car to go in I realised I had forgotten my mask.. Went in and approached the concession stand to get some food with the family.. The guy asks if I had a mask and I told him I had forgotten it, he then says he can’t serve me, despite others being served at other tellers without masks.. I told him to open his eyes and look about, then to my shame told him to “Eff off” ... I’m so done with this now.. Edited October 17, 2021 by Rupert Pupkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rupert Pupkin said: Had my first dose of rage over all this today.. Was at The Vue at Ocean Terminal and as I got out car to go in I realised I had forgotten my mask.. Went in and approached the concession stand to get some food with the family.. The guy asks if I had a mask and I told him I had forgotten it, he then says he can’t serve me, despite others being served at other tellers without masks.. I told him to open his eyes and look about, then to my shame told him to “Eff off” ... I’m so done with this now.. You should've just said 'exempt' No questions asked. You know what to do from now on. If I'm not required to wear one in England then I'll not be doing it up here either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Jambo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Rupert Pupkin said: Had my first dose of rage over all this today.. Was at The Vue at Ocean Terminal and as I got out car to go in I realised I had forgotten my mask.. Went in and approached the concession stand to get some food with the family.. The guy asks if I had a mask and I told him I had forgotten it, he then says he can’t serve me, despite others being served at other tellers without masks.. I told him to open his eyes and look about, then to my shame told him to “Eff off” ... I’m so done with this now.. I don’t blame you for losing your cool in that situation. The mask situation is getting ridiculous. In Asda today I would say 1 in 3/4 people weren’t wearing a mask whereas three months ago it would have been 1 in 20 that weren’t. People can see from the numbers that facemasks seem to have very little impact and so are starting to take their own decisions. The fact that kids still have to wear them all day in school despite multiple images of politician’s and other prominent people gathering indoors without them is shocking. However because it’s another example of being able to be different from the UK govt the Scottish govt will keep them for the foreseeable unfortunately. edit: I am not adverse to having them in public transport for example but the whole hospitality rules, as an example, are very evidently nonsensical. Edited October 17, 2021 by Brighton Jambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 If it makes you feel comfortable and safe then wear a mask. I do in a lot of situations especially here in Scotland where the weather is changing and the chances of catching Clovis increases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Pupkin Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 37 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: You should've just said 'exempt' No questions asked. You know what to do from now on. If I'm not required to wear one in England then I'll not be doing it up here either Yeah, was The Vue at Star City Birmingham 2 weeks ago to watch the new Bond.. No masks, no problems... Have been down in Englandshire the past few weekends, perhaps that’s why I forgot my mask... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Rupert Pupkin said: Yeah, was The Vue at Star City Birmingham 2 weeks ago to watch the new Bond.. No masks, no problems... Have been down in Englandshire the past few weekends, perhaps that’s why I forgot my mask... Are the pubs mask free in England? Asking for a friend.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fxxx the SPFL Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Are the pubs mask free in England? Asking for a friend.. Tell your friend lol yep me and the wife down in London five weeks ago mask free in all pubs including staff the odd person still wearing a mask but personal choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Are the pubs mask free in England? Asking for a friend.. You're not required to wear one unless you want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Rupert Pupkin said: Had my first dose of rage over all this today.. Was at The Vue at Ocean Terminal and as I got out car to go in I realised I had forgotten my mask.. Went in and approached the concession stand to get some food with the family.. The guy asks if I had a mask and I told him I had forgotten it, he then says he can’t serve me, despite others being served at other tellers without masks.. I told him to open his eyes and look about, then to my shame told him to “Eff off” ... I’m so done with this now.. I would have lost the rag too ! As Nucky said just say “ I’m exempt “ they can bolt . You wouldn’t think they needed custom ? Wouldn’t you ? Unreal . He sounds a little Hitler ! Plenty of them have appeared since covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: You're not required to wear one unless you want to. 👍🍺🍷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Rupert Pupkin said: Yeah, was The Vue at Star City Birmingham 2 weeks ago to watch the new Bond.. No masks, no problems... Have been down in Englandshire the past few weekends, perhaps that’s why I forgot my mask... You probably made the jobsworths day when you said you had forgotten it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 52 minutes ago, Brighton Jambo said: I don’t blame you for losing your cool in that situation. The mask situation is getting ridiculous. In Asda today I would say 1 in 3/4 people weren’t wearing a mask whereas three months ago it would have been 1 in 20 that weren’t. People can see from the numbers that facemasks seem to have very little impact and so are starting to take their own decisions. The fact that kids still have to wear them all day in school despite multiple images of politician’s and other prominent people gathering indoors without them is shocking. However because it’s another example of being able to be different from the UK govt the Scottish govt will keep them for the foreseeable unfortunately. edit: I am not adverse to having them in public transport for example but the whole hospitality rules, as an example, are very evidently nonsensical. Yes Nippoleon will keep them as long as she can . Just to different from England 🏴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Pupkin Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Are the pubs mask free in England? Asking for a friend.. Yes, no issues in Birmingham or Skegness, pretty much back to normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, JamesM48 said: Nippoleon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rupert Pupkin said: Yes, no issues in Birmingham or Skegness, pretty much back to normal 👍🍺🍷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: 👍🍺🍷 Are you heading over the border anytime soon TRM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Are you heading over the border anytime soon TRM? York tomorrow. Been there lots of times. My favourite Place in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, The Real Maroonblood said: York tomorrow. Been there lots of times. My favourite Place in England. Are you going with your friend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, redjambo said: Are you going with your friend? Yes, She’s been with me for that many years she’s now like one of the family.😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, The Real Maroonblood said: Yes, She’s been with me for that many years she’s now like one of the family.😉 By the way, no need to post thumbs up while you're away. That would be way beyond the call of duty and camaraderie. Have a great time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 For the benefit of quite a few posters on here, Scotland has different rules to England. Also different rules from France/germany/Australia etc etc. If you want to live by the laws of another country then you are free to go and live there. When you live in a country you go by their rules, it really is that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, XB52 said: For the benefit of quite a few posters on here, Scotland has different rules to England. Also different rules from France/germany/Australia etc etc. If you want to live by the laws of another country then you are free to go and live there. When you live in a country you go by their rules, it really is that simple. Oh how bloody condescending 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, redjambo said: By the way, no need to post thumbs up while you're away. That would be way beyond the call of duty and camaraderie. Have a great time! Thanks mate. The weather forecast is poor so not much walking about but plenty of great pubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, XB52 said: For the benefit of quite a few posters on here, Scotland has different rules to England. Also different rules from France/germany/Australia etc etc. If you want to live by the laws of another country then you are free to go and live there. When you live in a country you go by their rules, it really is that simple. Who knew ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: Who knew ? He lives in Turkey 🇹🇷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nucky Thompson said: You probably made the jobsworths day when you said you had forgotten it. I'd normally feel a bit crap for all the abuse they take but if it was the same moron at Vue Ocean Terminal who, when asking where we wanted seats for Shang-Chi (middle of afternoon midweek so totally dead) and I said anywhere will do, parked us next to the only 2 other people in the cinema. 👏 Course we could move row and did as it was totally empty otherwise, but surely if they are so keen on enforcing the wearing of masks they'd also be vigilant to ensure social distancing where possible? Edited October 17, 2021 by Gizmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, XB52 said: For the benefit of quite a few posters on here, Scotland has different rules to England. Also different rules from France/germany/Australia etc etc. If you want to live by the laws of another country then you are free to go and live there. When you live in a country you go by their rules, it really is that simple. I shan't hear another peep from anyone bemoaning Westminster's rules on non-devolved issues then...right? Don't like it, go and live somewhere else. Amiright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Taffin said: I shan't hear another peep from anyone bemoaning Westminster's rules on non-devolved issues then...right? Don't like it, go and live somewhere else. Amiright? Yip, that's why I, and anyone with a bit of common sense, wants out of the shit show that is the uk, via independence. Meanwhile I have to live by the laws of the land so when Scotland sets the laws I live by them, if UK set them I live by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, JamesM48 said: He lives in Turkey 🇹🇷 Not like you to be wrong, again. And, when I did live in Turkey, I lived by their rules. I didn't whinge and moan and demand to live by Scottish laws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Taffin said: I shan't hear another peep from anyone bemoaning Westminster's rules on non-devolved issues then...right? Don't like it, go and live somewhere else. Amiright? That’s all he does, moans about “ West monster “ 3 minutes ago, XB52 said: Not like you to be wrong, again. And, when I did live in Turkey, I lived by their rules. I didn't whinge and moan and demand to live by Scottish laws Well you did , i seem to recall . Mind you I might be wrong as I haven’t the slightest interest in anything about you . Your a groan , moan and whinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Boy Daniel said: If it makes you feel comfortable and safe then wear a mask. I do in a lot of situations especially here in Scotland where the weather is changing and the chances of catching Clovis increases. Its better bread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, JamesM48 said: That’s all he does, moans about “ West monster “ Well you did , i seem to recall . Mind you I might be wrong as I haven’t the slightest interest in anything about you . Your a groan , moan and whinger 😂😂😂😂 A stalker that doesn't care 😂😂😂😂 oh, and I have you on ignore so don't see much of your witterings but I just had a hunch you would be talking about me so had a peep. Bye for another week or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 48 minutes ago, XB52 said: 😂😂😂😂 A stalker that doesn't care 😂😂😂😂 oh, and I have you on ignore so don't see much of your witterings but I just had a hunch you would be talking about me so had a peep. Bye for another week or so Rattled much ! 😂. In all my time on this ive never had anyone on ignore ! Result ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 7 hours ago, XB52 said: Yip, that's why I, and anyone with a bit of common sense, wants out of the shit show that is the uk, via independence. Meanwhile I have to live by the laws of the land so when Scotland sets the laws I live by them, if UK set them I live by them. Which UK rules affect you enough that you bemoan them? Can't be the Barnett formula windfall that gives YOU an extra £2k+ per annum public spending? Or the billions that were poured into the furlough scheme? It wasn't the world leading vaccine scheme was it? Could it be the millions UK gov want to spend on upgrading Scotland's main arterial road links? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Which UK rules affect you enough that you bemoan them? Can't be the Barnett formula windfall that gives YOU an extra £2k+ per annum public spending? Or the billions that were poured into the furlough scheme? It wasn't the world leading vaccine scheme was it? Could it be the millions UK gov want to spend on upgrading Scotland's main arterial road links? Yeah Scotland got all this for free. Jeff Bezos could save millions on Equipment and fuel by getting a shoodery or cocarry from you. 🚀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 9 hours ago, XB52 said: Yip, that's why I, and anyone with a bit of common sense, wants out of the shit show that is the uk, via independence. Meanwhile I have to live by the laws of the land so when Scotland sets the laws I live by them, if UK set them I live by them. If there are laws you don't like in Scotland just move somewhere where you do like them. I want independence too, but moaning about it is no different to moaning about any other laws...given it was already voted down. Anyway off topic I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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