Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[JudyJudyJudy]

Well Leo ! The top Zodiac sign to

 Vaccinate In Some research . 😎 it really is a grand “‘compassionate “‘sign apparently very ego based 😎. Not that I’m biased !  Looks like Scorpions are bottom of the class  😂😂https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/oct/23/vaccination-rate-zodiac-sign?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR13U6cY9UNWQexAg9_qdNgjQ5F0jYno-24bRahXihNpFj7o0c6A0DZMC2Q#Echobox=1635061030

Edited October 24, 2021 by JamesM48

[indianajones]

10 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Dear Lord ! Just wow 

 

 

That is unreal. 

 

Looks like i am just not voting next time around. Not a single leader in sight. Scary times. 

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

Just now, indianajones said:

 

That is unreal. 

 

Looks like i am just not voting next time around. Not a single leader in sight. Scary times. 

 

 

Yes  I was horrified when I saw it on Twitter . Haven’t seen the full programme so I’ll watch that to get more context but even from this short clip it’s pretty alarming.  I had voted Labour at the last election ( personal reasons ) but doubt I’ll vote for them again if this is their mantra . 

[frankblack]

2 hours ago, manaliveits105 said:

I see there is no sign of the portal to book your booster yet thankfully its not an urgent thing  its not as if its a matter of life or death 

 

 

My mum in her 80s has heard nothing about getting the booster.

 

I'm not expecting to get mine until the beginning of next year at the earliest.  Meanwhile I booked a flu jab for tomorrow months ago at my local chemist rather than wait for the NHS to give me notification.  £15 private and a 5 min walk vs a £10 return bus fare out to Ingliston, so I'll take the £5 hit.

[Victorian]

37 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

My mum in her 80s has heard nothing about getting the booster.

 

I'm not expecting to get mine until the beginning of next year at the earliest.  Meanwhile I booked a flu jab for tomorrow months ago at my local chemist rather than wait for the NHS to give me notification.  £15 private and a 5 min walk vs a £10 return bus fare out to Ingliston, so I'll take the £5 hit.

 

Humza Yousaf was on the BBC this morning crowing about how the 60-69 year olds will be getting their letters soon.  He should have been explaining why lots of over 80s and 90s are still waiting and attempting to address their concerns.  

[Victorian]

9 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Yes the Scottish one is different. 

 

Currently bookings are restricted to Health Care workers and a couple of other categories. They have been working on the site recently. 

 

I thought it would be letters like before so it will be interesting to see if we can book ourselves in due course.

 

Does anyone know for sure ? 

 

Do you know the link that's being used now?

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 24 October 2021

Summary

• 2,528 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+125; down from 2,666 a week ago]
• 26,807 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [-3,244]
  • 9.9% of these were positive [+1.2%]
• 21 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive*
• 58 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-3]
• 899 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+3]
• 4,305,582 people have received the first dose of the Covid vaccination and 3,892,224 have received their second dose [+3,200; +1,747]

*This includes 20 new deaths that were not reported yesterday due to data issues, and one for today (noting that Register Offices are now generally closed at weekends).

[Lee_Mellon]

23 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Yes the Scottish one is different. 

 

Currently bookings are restricted to Health Care workers and a couple of other categories. They have been working on the site recently. 

 

I thought it would be letters like before so it will be interesting to see if we can book ourselves in due course.

 

Does anyone know for sure ? 

Got my letter on Thursday for the flu vaccine, in which it states I may also be offered the booster if I’m eligible, which I reckon I am. Only downside is that the appointment is for next Sunday…at 8:20am!

[redjambo]

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO		Today	Yesterday			22 Oct	21 Oct	20 Oct	19 Oct	18 Oct	...	1 Oct
Scotland	4		322	325	-3		328	325	331	327	317	...	345
Clackmannanshire	4		583	579	+4		558	556	521	511	489	...	328
East Ayrshire	4		466	471	-5		456	436	444	415	413	...	440
West Lothian	4		457	483	-26		502	487	476	467	448	...	504
Stirling	4		438	443	-5		476	461	461	462	464	...	366
Fife	4		418	424	-6		443	438	442	439	428	...	407
North Lanarkshire	4		414	401	+13		390	384	387	383	356	...	442
Falkirk	4		403	432	-29		434	443	463	451	429	...	421
East Dunbartonshire	4		382	371	+11		407	396	394	392	351	...	382
South Lanarkshire	4		349	378	-29		387	395	399	392	360	...	382
Aberdeenshire	4		340	319	+21		314	329	352	355	356	...	339
Dundee City	4		336	339	-3		341	342	354	367	370	...	427
Scottish Borders	4		336	353	-17		366	372	359	364	342	...	188
West Dunbartonshire	4		335	318	+17		305	293	303	310	294	...	437
East Renfrewshire	4		324	328	-4		335	326	350	352	344	...	354
East Lothian	4	214	316	317	-1		313	306	301	318	325	...	265
Argyll & Bute	4		315	302	+13		286	273	277	273	248	...	304
Angus	4		314	323	-9		328	321	331	341	339	...	234
Perth & Kinross	4		310	308	+2		310	283	263	266	251	...	304
North Ayrshire	4		309	314	-5		328	348	355	356	349	...	441
South Ayrshire	4		298	314	-16		317	324	310	298	292	...	541
Renfrewshire	4		291	300	-9		323	313	345	353	348	...	371
Na h-Eileanan Siar	4		287	264	+23		264	223	208	185	155	...	234
Moray	4		279	267	+12		276	302	332	320	323	...	231
Dumfries & Galloway	4		277	273	+4		273	260	260	243	228	...	361
Inverclyde	4		276	274	+2		292	284	267	234	232	...	365
Highland	4	211	270	265	+5		248	232	232	214	209	...	168
Aberdeen City	4		251	248	+3		244	260	268	262	257	...	292
Glasgow City	4		243	243	0		243	236	248	243	236	...	328
Orkney Islands	4		228	156	+72		112	121	125	125	116	...	85
Edinburgh City	4		223	228	-5		232	234	233	235	240	...	238
Midlothian	4		223	229	-6		225	221	249	263	257	...	327
Shetland Islands	3		52	66	-14		74	92	79	70	83	...	70
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			22 Oct	21 Oct	20 Oct	19 Oct	18 Oct	...	1 Oct
Tests			29784	29946	-162		29794	29844	30772	29939	29705	...	35457
Cases			2516	2535	-19		2561	2541	2581	2555	2476	...	2694
Positivity rate %			9.0	9.0	0.0		9.1	9.0	8.9	9.0	8.8	...	8.2
Deaths			17	18	-1		18	20	19	20	20	...	19
All Vaccinations			4845	4966	-121		5047	5227	5603	5895	6181	...	6572
1st Dose			2791	2893	-102		2959	3117	3427	3699	3999	...	3705
2nd Dose			2054	2073	-19		2088	2110	2176	2196	2182	...	2867
All in hospital			889	879	+10		871	865	864	868	877	...	1009
Non-ICU			835	827	+8		821	817	817	821	829	...	935
ICU			54	52	+2		50	48	47	47	48	...	74

[Victorian]

10 minutes ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

I don't know.  It looks like it could be used for the specific categories shown but I've not looked any further. 

 

My daughter who is an ICU nurse had her booster arranged via the hospital.

 

Cheers.

[The Real Maroonblood]

40 minutes ago, redjambo said:

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO		Today	Yesterday			22 Oct	21 Oct	20 Oct	19 Oct	18 Oct	...	1 Oct
Scotland	4		322	325	-3		328	325	331	327	317	...	345
Clackmannanshire	4		583	579	+4		558	556	521	511	489	...	328
East Ayrshire	4		466	471	-5		456	436	444	415	413	...	440
West Lothian	4		457	483	-26		502	487	476	467	448	...	504
Stirling	4		438	443	-5		476	461	461	462	464	...	366
Fife	4		418	424	-6		443	438	442	439	428	...	407
North Lanarkshire	4		414	401	+13		390	384	387	383	356	...	442
Falkirk	4		403	432	-29		434	443	463	451	429	...	421
East Dunbartonshire	4		382	371	+11		407	396	394	392	351	...	382
South Lanarkshire	4		349	378	-29		387	395	399	392	360	...	382
Aberdeenshire	4		340	319	+21		314	329	352	355	356	...	339
Dundee City	4		336	339	-3		341	342	354	367	370	...	427
Scottish Borders	4		336	353	-17		366	372	359	364	342	...	188
West Dunbartonshire	4		335	318	+17		305	293	303	310	294	...	437
East Renfrewshire	4		324	328	-4		335	326	350	352	344	...	354
East Lothian	4	214	316	317	-1		313	306	301	318	325	...	265
Argyll & Bute	4		315	302	+13		286	273	277	273	248	...	304
Angus	4		314	323	-9		328	321	331	341	339	...	234
Perth & Kinross	4		310	308	+2		310	283	263	266	251	...	304
North Ayrshire	4		309	314	-5		328	348	355	356	349	...	441
South Ayrshire	4		298	314	-16		317	324	310	298	292	...	541
Renfrewshire	4		291	300	-9		323	313	345	353	348	...	371
Na h-Eileanan Siar	4		287	264	+23		264	223	208	185	155	...	234
Moray	4		279	267	+12		276	302	332	320	323	...	231
Dumfries & Galloway	4		277	273	+4		273	260	260	243	228	...	361
Inverclyde	4		276	274	+2		292	284	267	234	232	...	365
Highland	4	211	270	265	+5		248	232	232	214	209	...	168
Aberdeen City	4		251	248	+3		244	260	268	262	257	...	292
Glasgow City	4		243	243	0		243	236	248	243	236	...	328
Orkney Islands	4		228	156	+72		112	121	125	125	116	...	85
Edinburgh City	4		223	228	-5		232	234	233	235	240	...	238
Midlothian	4		223	229	-6		225	221	249	263	257	...	327
Shetland Islands	3		52	66	-14		74	92	79	70	83	...	70
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			22 Oct	21 Oct	20 Oct	19 Oct	18 Oct	...	1 Oct
Tests			29784	29946	-162		29794	29844	30772	29939	29705	...	35457
Cases			2516	2535	-19		2561	2541	2581	2555	2476	...	2694
Positivity rate %			9.0	9.0	0.0		9.1	9.0	8.9	9.0	8.8	...	8.2
Deaths			17	18	-1		18	20	19	20	20	...	19
All Vaccinations			4845	4966	-121		5047	5227	5603	5895	6181	...	6572
1st Dose			2791	2893	-102		2959	3117	3427	3699	3999	...	3705
2nd Dose			2054	2073	-19		2088	2110	2176	2196	2182	...	2867
All in hospital			889	879	+10		871	865	864	868	877	...	1009
Non-ICU			835	827	+8		821	817	817	821	829	...	935
ICU			54	52	+2		50	48	47	47	48	...	74

👍

[Alex Kintner]

4 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

“ super cautious “ sounds more like paranoid . Sorry to say . You have a season ticket to an open air venue and still haven’t been ? And not been to the pub either. ( Albeit a slightly higher risk ) .  It’s about balancing risk and living . It appears your still quite anxious and ironically caught it despite being “ over cautious “ . I’m out and about living now and enjoying life . That’s what’s it’s about . I’ll assess where I need to wear a mask. I’ve had the two jabs . I’ll consider the booster . I haven’t caught it as far as I’m aware . Also been in very close contact with two different people who had it . Still fine. 

For you it may seem paranoid, for me it’s about being realistic and cautious and doing what’s best for me and my family. An “open air event” where I’m packed in like sardines with 15,000 other folk is a high Covid risk as far as I’m concerned especially given everything that goes on during a match with shouting, singing and celebrating. Pals have told me about the lack of people wearing masks and yesterday non-vaccinated folk were sneaking in with fake vaccine passports. I would normally always be in the fans bar before and after games and my mates have experienced folk bizarrely mocking them for wearing masks when ordering at the bar. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

As the father of a one year old with an underlying health condition, I’ve got to balance all that up and for me at the moment it’s just not worth it. Was never a question I’d renew my ST and still want the club to have my money. Hearts TV works for me at the moment.

 

I’m very much still living life and a very happy one at that with a lovely wife and two young kids. The age of the kids  means we don’t have much opportunity for a social life at the moment anyway so choosing not to go to the pub hasn’t really impacted my quality of life. We’ve been out for a few meals in restaurants and felt totally safe. 
 

It’s important that everyone feels free to make their own choices, as long as it doesn’t impact others and I’m glad there’s plenty of fans there to cheer on the team.I don’t include those who can be vaccinated and are choosing not to be and then sneaking into matches in that. They’re selfish ***** as far as I’m aware.

[Enzo Chiefo]

UK figures back down below 40k again today, where they have been bobbing about for several months. Still fewer daily cases than there were just prior to restrictions being lifted in July. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

19 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said:

For you it may seem paranoid, for me it’s about being realistic and cautious and doing what’s best for me and my family. An “open air event” where I’m packed in like sardines with 15,000 other folk is a high Covid risk as far as I’m concerned especially given everything that goes on during a match with shouting, singing and celebrating. Pals have told me about the lack of people wearing masks and yesterday non-vaccinated folk were sneaking in with fake vaccine passports. I would normally always be in the fans bar before and after games and my mates have experienced folk bizarrely mocking them for wearing masks when ordering at the bar. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

As the father of a one year old with an underlying health condition, I’ve got to balance all that up and for me at the moment it’s just not worth it. Was never a question I’d renew my ST and still want the club to have my money. Hearts TV works for me at the moment.

 

I’m very much still living life and a very happy one at that with a lovely wife and two young kids. The age of the kids  means we don’t have much opportunity for a social life at the moment anyway so choosing not to go to the pub hasn’t really impacted my quality of life. We’ve been out for a few meals in restaurants and felt totally safe. 
 

It’s important that everyone feels free to make their own choices, as long as it doesn’t impact others and I’m glad there’s plenty of fans there to cheer on the team.I don’t include those who can be vaccinated and are choosing not to be and then sneaking into matches in that. They’re selfish ***** as far as I’m aware.

Yes everyone has the right to make choices. You make yours and Ill make mine.  The problem is when others decide they have the right to force their choices on to others.  I think youll find your completely wrong about open air venues like football matches.  Never heard of one " outbreak" yet from any such event. 

 

Its unlikely to say the least. You do know that anyone who is vaccinated can also carry the virus and spread it ? Hence the futility of vaccine passports?  Anyway it was great to see the powers that be at Tynie taking a very softly softly ,measured and sensible approach to it yesterday.  Seems your thinking is more based on emotions than facts really.  However if you have a vulnerable 1 years old you are probably right to be cautious about what you get up to outwith the family home.  If it lessens your anxiety thats fine. 

Edited October 24, 2021 by JamesM48

[Enzo Chiefo]

7 minutes ago, Alex Kintner said:

For you it may seem paranoid, for me it’s about being realistic and cautious and doing what’s best for me and my family. An “open air event” where I’m packed in like sardines with 15,000 other folk is a high Covid risk as far as I’m concerned especially given everything that goes on during a match with shouting, singing and celebrating. Pals have told me about the lack of people wearing masks and yesterday non-vaccinated folk were sneaking in with fake vaccine passports. I would normally always be in the fans bar before and after games and my mates have experienced folk bizarrely mocking them for wearing masks when ordering at the bar. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

As the father of a one year old with an underlying health condition, I’ve got to balance all that up and for me at the moment it’s just not worth it. Was never a question I’d renew my ST and still want the club to have my money. Hearts TV works for me at the moment.

 

I’m very much still living life and a very happy one at that with a lovely wife and two young kids. The age of the kids  means we don’t have much opportunity for a social life at the moment anyway so choosing not to go to the pub hasn’t really impacted my quality of life. We’ve been out for a few meals in restaurants and felt totally safe. 
 

It’s important that everyone feels free to make their own choices, as long as it doesn’t impact others and I’m glad there’s plenty of fans there to cheer on the team.I don’t include those who can be vaccinated and are choosing not to be and then sneaking into matches in that. They’re selfish ***** as far as I’m aware.

Good post. You've got to assess your own risks and make your own judgement calls, Alex.

 

Personally,  I'm at the stage where, yes, I'm going into environments where Covid could spread but with most folks double jabbed, the chances of anyone having it, far less passing it on are minimal imo. 

A recent Dutch study found that a vaccinated person with the Delta variant is 63% less likely to pass it on to a family member. 

Another study,  based on Israeli data, found the vaccine reduced transmission by up to 89%.

 

But, yes, once the booster programme kicks in, hopefully you get the chance to get back to Tynie to witness the rest of what will, hopefully, be a good season.

[JudyJudyJudy]

12 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

UK figures back down below 40k again today, where they have been bobbing about for several months. Still fewer daily cases than there were just prior to restrictions being lifted in July. 

👍

[JimmyCant]

2 hours ago, jonnothejambo said:

 

Yes the Scottish one is different. 

 

Currently bookings are restricted to Health Care workers and a couple of other categories. They have been working on the site recently. 

 

I thought it would be letters like before so it will be interesting to see if we can book ourselves in due course.

 

Does anyone know for sure ? 

60-70 plus the remaining at risk group will get letters with appointments before the end of the month. 50-60 will get a letter giving them access to a portal to book their own if they wish. They expect we’ll over 50% of 50-60 to decline flu that’s why it’s self appointment.  God knows what is happening with boosters for that age groups if you are not yet eligible. The focus in Scotland is on flu and many folk in the 50-60 band won’t get boosters till into the spring the way things are looking

[JimmyCant]

12 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:Never heard of one " outbreak" yet from any such event. 

Never heard of Cheltenham ? The Wembley trip ? The spike when fans were allowed back in England. All of which were scientifically mapped as ‘super spreaders’ 

[JudyJudyJudy]

6 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

Never heard of Cheltenham ? The Wembley trip ? The spike when fans were allowed back in England. All of which were scientifically mapped as ‘super spreaders’ 

Never heard there has been matches played in England and Scotland since August every single week and sometimes during the week ???? 

[joondalupjambo]

5 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

Never heard of Cheltenham ? The Wembley trip ? The spike when fans were allowed back in England. All of which were scientifically mapped as ‘super spreaders’ 

Yep first one classed like that might have been Liverpool v Atletico I think, maybe same week as Cheltenham.  Anyway football matches are a risk, perhaps not high as they were with double jabbing but still a level of risk involved for some depending on circumstances.

[Nucky Thompson]

34 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

UK figures back down below 40k again today, where they have been bobbing about for several months. Still fewer daily cases than there were just prior to restrictions being lifted in July. 

Aye, dipped below 40k for the first time in 12 days and the English schools are now off for half term

[JimmyCant]

9 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Never heard there has been matches played in England and Scotland since August every single week and sometimes during the week ???? 

Well of course I’ve heard. Your asserting that large outdoor events don’t spread coronavirus is utter nonsense though It’s proven and accepted that they do. This certificate checking is nothing more than a PR stunt. A token effort aimed and getting more people vaccinated and nothing more. Large events spread the virus, even if every single person attending has been vaccinated and can prove it. The government are accepting the numbers, they have no intention whatsoever of putting restrictions back on. They are effectively letting it run through the younger population and as long as the death rate is ‘acceptable’ that’s the policy track they will stick to.

Edited October 24, 2021 by JimmyCant

[Nucky Thompson]

325,000 were given booster shots in England yesterday. Good going 

[JimmyCant]

3 hours ago, Lee_Mellon said:

Got my letter on Thursday for the flu vaccine, in which it states I may also be offered the booster if I’m eligible, which I reckon I am. Only downside is that the appointment is for next Sunday…at 8:20am!

They don’t worry too much about being prompt. As long as you are in the rough ballpark of 8.20, you won’t get turned away. On the upside you’ll probably avoid the queues if you go early.

Edited October 24, 2021 by JimmyCant

[Alex Kintner]

39 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Yes everyone has the right to make choices. You make yours and Ill make mine.  The problem is when others decide they have the right to force their choices on to others.  I think youll find your completely wrong about open air venues like football matches.  Never heard of one " outbreak" yet from any such event. 

 

Its unlikely to say the least. You do know that anyone who is vaccinated can also carry the virus and spread it ? Hence the futility of vaccine passports?  Anyway it was great to see the powers that be at Tynie taking a very softly softly ,measured and sensible approach to it yesterday.  Seems your thinking is more based on emotions than facts really.  However if you have a vulnerable 1 years old you are probably right to be cautious about what you get up to outwith the family home.  If it lessens your anxiety thats fine. 

It’s a fact that open air sporting events such as Cheltenham and the Liverpool match have been super spreader events.
 

It’s also a fact that being vaccinated lowers the likelihood of you passing on the virus.

 

I think it’s your thinking that's based on emotions rather than facts tbh. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

33 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Good post. You've got to assess your own risks and make your own judgement calls, Alex.

 

Personally,  I'm at the stage where, yes, I'm going into environments where Covid could spread but with most folks double jabbed, the chances of anyone having it, far less passing it on are minimal imo. 

A recent Dutch study found that a vaccinated person with the Delta variant is 63% less likely to pass it on to a family member. 

Another study,  based on Israeli data, found the vaccine reduced transmission by up to 89%.

 

But, yes, once the booster programme kicks in, hopefully you get the chance to get back to Tynie to witness the rest of what will, hopefully, be a good season.

Cheers 👍🏻

[JudyJudyJudy]

19 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said:

Yep first one classed like that might have been Liverpool v Atletico I think, maybe same week as Cheltenham.  Anyway football matches are a risk, perhaps not high as they were with double jabbing but still a level of risk involved for some depending on circumstances.

Life is a risk 

14 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

Well of course I’ve heard. Your asserting that large outdoor events don’t spread coronavirus is utter nonsense though It’s proven and accepted that they do. This certificate checking is nothing more than a PR stunt. A token effort aimed and getting more people vaccinated and nothing more. Large events spread the virus, even if every single person attending has been vaccinated and can prove it. The government are accepting the numbers, they have no intention whatsoever of putting restrictions back on. They are effectively letting it run through the younger population and as long as the death rate is ‘acceptable’ that’s the policy track they will stick to.

Yes the Govt are being realistic and balancing living with it, as opposed to living in fear of it.   Its the media stirring up the fear mongering. 

[JimmyCant]

3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Life is a risk 

Yes the Govt are being realistic and balancing living with it, as opposed to living in fear of it.   Its the media stirring up the fear mongering. 

Wait. HUD oan. Have you not been slating the government at every opportunity on here for months. Suddenly they are getting it right ? 

[Enzo Chiefo]

3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Life is a risk 

Yes the Govt are being realistic and balancing living with it, as opposed to living in fear of it.   Its the media stirring up the fear mongering. 

👍. Yes, the minute cases go up a bit, even though they are still lower than they were in July, all the usual doommongers are wheeled out.

People's freedoms and liberties should not be used as a tool to cover for NHS capacity issues. 

[Beni]

It's often been said that infection with Covid provides more effective immunity than vaccination due to the levels of antibodies produced, but ONS data has found they both give similar protection against future infection.

67% for vaccination, 71% for previous infection.

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveytechnicalarticleimpactofvaccinationontestingpositiveintheuk/october2021#risk-of-testing-positive-for-covid-19-by-vaccination-status

[JudyJudyJudy]

22 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

Wait. HUD oan. Have you not been slating the government at every opportunity on here for months. Suddenly they are getting it right ? 

Yes i am at the opinion they are getting it right at the present time. Its not exactly breaking news. I have said this before. Still disagree with mandatory mask wearing for school kids and VPs. But the rest I can live with .  They just have to stand firm against the media onslaught. 

21 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

👍. Yes, the minute cases go up a bit, even though they are still lower than they were in July, all the usual doommongers are wheeled out.

People's freedoms and liberties should not be used as a tool to cover for NHS capacity issues. 

I am afraid freedoms seem to be getting curtailed due  to the covering up of  NHS inadequacies.  Yes all we need to see is Linda Bauld to complete the trinity of fear. 

6 minutes ago, Beni said:

It's often been said that infection with Covid provides more effective immunity than vaccination due to the levels of antibodies produced, but ONS data has found they both give similar protection against future infection.

67% for vaccination, 71% for previous infection.

 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveytechnicalarticleimpactofvaccinationontestingpositiveintheuk/october2021#risk-of-testing-positive-for-covid-19-by-vaccination-status

Yes i saw that earlier. Very interesting. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

17 minutes ago, jonesy said:

When my wife's cooking, it certainly is.

 

 

Well i dont have that problem im the maestro in the kitchen. Hes the maestro elsewhere in the house.  

[Hesh]

2 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Yes everyone has the right to make choices. You make yours and Ill make mine.  The problem is when others decide they have the right to force their choices on to others.  

Hilarious, when you’re calling the OP ‘paranoid’ this is forcing your choices onto the OP mentally, rather than verbally or physically. It says a lot you have over 5.5 k posts on this thread, over 5%, I suspect many of them forcing your opinion on others.

[Footballfirst]

2 hours ago, Nucky Thompson said:

325,000 were given booster shots in England yesterday. Good going 

31,448 were given booster shots in Scotland yesterday. Equally good going

[JudyJudyJudy]

15 minutes ago, Hesh said:

Hilarious, when you’re calling the OP ‘paranoid’ this is forcing your choices onto the OP mentally, rather than verbally or physically. It says a lot you have over 5.5 k posts on this thread, over 5%, I suspect many of them forcing your opinion on others.

Never forced my opinion on anyone ! Don’t be silly  . In my opinion ofcourse 

[manaliveits105]

When is the JKB Christmas Party ?

[Enzo Chiefo]

50 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

When is the JKB Christmas Party ?

I've booked the Conservative Club for Sat 18th. All welcome.

[Footballfirst]

3 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

I've booked the Conservative Club for Sat 18th. All welcome.

I assume that if you make a donation to party funds on the night, you would become eligible for a government contract, a peerage or a gong (MBE/OBE etc)  

[JudyJudyJudy]

11 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

I've booked the Conservative Club for Sat 18th. All welcome.

 

[Fxxx the SPFL]

3 hours ago, Alex Kintner said:

It’s a fact that open air sporting events such as Cheltenham and the Liverpool match have been super spreader events.
 

It’s also a fact that being vaccinated lowers the likelihood of you passing on the virus.

 

I think it’s your thinking that's based on emotions rather than facts tbh. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

Cheers 👍🏻

Everyone keeps going on about Cheltenham being a superspreader event sorry that’s absolute pish 90% of the punters at that event come from craggy island they had very little covid after that so that’s just nonsense and fwiw we were down in Manchester the week of lockdown unfortunately and had Athletico Madrid supporters in our hotel I imagine cheaper staying there than Liverpool we chatted with them at breakfast day of the game at same table and didn’t get covid and that’s when Madrid were getting big numbers 

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said:

Everyone keeps going on about Cheltenham being a superspreader event sorry that’s absolute pish 90% of the punters at that event come from craggy island they had very little covid after that so that’s just nonsense and fwiw we were down in Manchester the week of lockdown unfortunately and had Athletico Madrid supporters in our hotel I imagine cheaper staying there than Liverpool we chatted with them at breakfast day of the game at same table and didn’t get covid and that’s when Madrid were getting big numbers 

Was Cheltenham a coronavirus super-spreader event? | WIRED UK

 

 

[Footballfirst]

6 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Was Cheltenham a coronavirus super-spreader event? | WIRED UK

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-cheltenham-festival-and-liverpool-v-atletico-madrid-led-to-spike-in-covid-19-deaths-11994875

[JudyJudyJudy]

Tragic 

 

 

[Herbert.]

Everyone in my house has covid apart from me, mental how you can sleep 6inches from someone and not catch it.

[Alex Kintner]

1 hour ago, **** the SPFL said:

Everyone keeps going on about Cheltenham being a superspreader event sorry that’s absolute pish 90% of the punters at that event come from craggy island they had very little covid after that so that’s just nonsense and fwiw we were down in Manchester the week of lockdown unfortunately and had Athletico Madrid supporters in our hotel I imagine cheaper staying there than Liverpool we chatted with them at breakfast day of the game at same table and didn’t get covid and that’s when Madrid were getting big numbers 

Well who needs scientific evidence when we’ve got much more important anecdotal evidence. 

[Alex Kintner]

1 hour ago, Footballfirst said:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-cheltenham-festival-and-liverpool-v-atletico-madrid-led-to-spike-in-covid-19-deaths-11994875

Yeah but he’s just a scientist andI bet he never had breakfast with any Athletico fans.

[EH11_2NL]

24 minutes ago, Herbert said:

Everyone in my house has covid apart from me, mental how you can sleep 6inches from someone and not catch it.

Boast type post IMHO 

[JudyJudyJudy]

27 minutes ago, Herbert said:

Everyone in my house has covid apart from me, mental how you can sleep 6inches from someone and not catch it.

Yes its very odd. There are  Numerous examples of this . Makes one wonder............

[Enzo Chiefo]

1 hour ago, Footballfirst said:

I assume that if you make a donation to party funds on the night, you would become eligible for a government contract, a peerage or a gong (MBE/OBE etc)  

😂Depends how much your donation is FF😎

[Nucky Thompson]

20 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Yes its very odd. There are  Numerous examples of this . Makes one wonder............

Some people will just have natural immunity and will never catch it

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

Some people will just have natural immunity and will never catch it

Yes I think that must be the case ! Still positive I had it last year .