Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[Nucky Thompson]

12 minutes ago, weegranty said:

I missed The Specials  concert 2 weeks ago because the wife had it.Got From The Jam this Friday  so hopefully  im negative.

Hopefully bud.

We've all had cold symptoms in my household, but not one positive test.

I've had a really sore throat and a wee bit of a cough but felt fine. It was going away yesterday and I've woken up this morning as right as rain

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Not 100% sure if this totally relevant but I read this morning that the government is mandating the addition of folic acid to white flour to aid the prevention of approx 200 spinal birth defects a year. 

 

How does that sit with those pissing and whining about having to take a vaccine when folk die anyway?

 

Are Warburtons getting boycotted?

Folic acid has been proven through many studies and years of trial that it’s helpful to a person whereas the jab …..is still in infancy 

2 hours ago, Taffin said:

 

Are they being accompanied by loaf consumption passports to prove you've had sufficient white flour to get into the football or a nightclub?

 

If yes, then yes, screw Warburtons.

 

If no, then no, I don't care.

Good point 

35 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said:

I've got the same and it's just the cold. The first one I've had in about 5 years.

Loads of folk are getting the cold just now

Yes breaking news we are allowed to have other illnesses . That covid thinks it’s the only game in town . Bloody prima Donna 

[JudyJudyJudy]

20 minutes ago, weegranty said:

I missed The Specials  concert 2 weeks ago because the wife had it.Got From The Jam this Friday  so hopefully  im negative.

Was it strawberry or raspberry jam ? Think raspberry is worse fir u 

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

It kind of is relevant though as people are being coerced into taking something they might not want just to stop 200 defects a year.

 

That type of argument is the central plank of this thread for the last 18 months.  

 

I'm expecting a full suite of Mike Yeadons, a plethora of Judy Garlands and a 30 minute Neil Oliver special on G Beebies

 

[redjambo]

Some sort of snafu at the Grampian lab means that the data continues to be incomplete. "Investigation" - what is the world like? People used to step up to the plate and just get things sorted out.

 

Scottish numbers: 20 September 2021

Summary

• 2,917* new cases of COVID-19 reported [-916; down from 4,241 a week ago]
• 29,098* new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [-16,887]
  • 10.8%* of these were positive [+1.7%]
• 0 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive (noting that Register Offices are now generally closed on weekends) [-2]
• 97 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-3]
• 1,088 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+14]
• 4,157,613 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,810,775 have received their second dose [+2,565; +3,795]

*Please note that NHS Grampian Lab have not submitted lab files since Saturday 18 September, investigation into this issue is ongoing.

[redjambo]

Here are the latest trend stats. I don't know how they determine which areas send their tests to which lab, but you can probably assume that the north east results are lower than they should be due to the data issue du jour.

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO		Today	Yesterday			18 Sep	17 Sep	16 Sep	15 Sep	14 Sep	...	1 Sep
Scotland	4		495	519	-24		557	524	N/A	666	682	...	747
West Dunbartonshire	4		787	821	-34		875	825	N/A	1097	1120	...	1105
North Lanarkshire	4		664	686	-22		721	679	N/A	856	907	...	1261
South Ayrshire	4		663	670	-7		673	614	N/A	702	659	...	658
Renfrewshire	4		637	650	-13		690	703	N/A	837	832	...	1041
North Ayrshire	4		616	647	-31		682	658	N/A	804	812	...	772
Inverclyde	4		610	625	-15		671	711	N/A	955	908	...	1238
East Renfrewshire	4		601	656	-55		714	709	N/A	919	962	...	1080
East Ayrshire	4		596	604	-8		633	631	N/A	743	769	...	627
East Dunbartonshire	4		585	617	-32		656	584	N/A	687	757	...	1150
West Lothian	4		580	613	-33		700	639	N/A	805	761	...	668
South Lanarkshire	4		551	563	-12		601	565	N/A	732	756	...	1013
Fife	4		546	573	-27		636	588	N/A	737	751	...	597
Midlothian	4		545	596	-51		666	612	N/A	720	782	...	754
Falkirk	4		543	569	-26		605	519	N/A	642	681	...	690
Dundee City	4		539	582	-43		609	592	N/A	785	773	...	697
Stirling	4		539	569	-30		612	542	N/A	660	655	...	628
Glasgow City	4		521	543	-22		582	565	N/A	753	779	...	989
Aberdeenshire	4		475	500	-25		522	480	N/A	615	619	...	424
Argyll & Bute	4		447	469	-22		471	461	N/A	549	572	...	712
Clackmannanshire	4		443	501	-58		556	452	N/A	671	723	...	704
Aberdeen City	4		413	432	-19		439	403	N/A	524	526	...	414
Perth & Kinross	4		386	398	-12		372	357	N/A	423	400	...	297
Edinburgh City	4		384	419	-35		484	445	N/A	583	602	...	722
Dumfries & Galloway	4		363	368	-5		384	343	N/A	426	469	...	620
East Lothian	4		340	363	-23		435	382	N/A	505	495	...	604
Scottish Borders	4		325	351	-26		378	370	N/A	417	444	...	430
Angus	4		311	340	-29		366	367	N/A	457	452	...	430
Highland	4		299	313	-14		339	307	N/A	451	490	...	531
Moray	4		197	210	-13		233	194	N/A	247	250	...	183
Shetland Islands	3		144	162	-18		162	166	N/A	223	223	...	262
Na h-Eileanan Siar	3		140	151	-11		136	140	N/A	117	136	...	170
Orkney Islands	3		107	134	-27		134	188	N/A	205	246	...	67
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			18 Sep	17 Sep	16 Sep	15 Sep	14 Sep	...	1 Sep
Tests			43022	44687	-1665		46067	41663	N/A	51511	51475	...	46368
Cases			3863	4052	-189		4349	4090	N/A	5199	5327	...	5832
Positivity rate %			9.7	9.8	-0.1		10.2	10.6	N/A	10.8	11.1	...	13.3
Deaths			19.4	19.4	0.0		19.1	16.7	15.6	13.6	11.7	...	6.0
All Vaccinations			5771	6279	-508		6699	7342	N/A	8263	8847	...	15364
1st Dose			2119	2062	+57		2004	2118	N/A	2287	2345	...	2844
2nd Dose			3652	4217	-565		4695	5224	N/A	5976	6502	...	12520
All in hospital			1064	1058	+6		1050	1041	1032	1014	986	...	524
Non-ICU			970	965	+5		959	952	944	927	900	...	473
ICU			94	93	+1		91	89	88	87	86	...	51

[The Real Maroonblood]

17 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Here are the latest trend stats. I don't know how they determine which areas send their tests to which lab, but you can probably assume that the north east results are lower than they should be due to the data issue du jour.

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO		Today	Yesterday			18 Sep	17 Sep	16 Sep	15 Sep	14 Sep	...	1 Sep
Scotland	4		495	519	-24		557	524	N/A	666	682	...	747
West Dunbartonshire	4		787	821	-34		875	825	N/A	1097	1120	...	1105
North Lanarkshire	4		664	686	-22		721	679	N/A	856	907	...	1261
South Ayrshire	4		663	670	-7		673	614	N/A	702	659	...	658
Renfrewshire	4		637	650	-13		690	703	N/A	837	832	...	1041
North Ayrshire	4		616	647	-31		682	658	N/A	804	812	...	772
Inverclyde	4		610	625	-15		671	711	N/A	955	908	...	1238
East Renfrewshire	4		601	656	-55		714	709	N/A	919	962	...	1080
East Ayrshire	4		596	604	-8		633	631	N/A	743	769	...	627
East Dunbartonshire	4		585	617	-32		656	584	N/A	687	757	...	1150
West Lothian	4		580	613	-33		700	639	N/A	805	761	...	668
South Lanarkshire	4		551	563	-12		601	565	N/A	732	756	...	1013
Fife	4		546	573	-27		636	588	N/A	737	751	...	597
Midlothian	4		545	596	-51		666	612	N/A	720	782	...	754
Falkirk	4		543	569	-26		605	519	N/A	642	681	...	690
Dundee City	4		539	582	-43		609	592	N/A	785	773	...	697
Stirling	4		539	569	-30		612	542	N/A	660	655	...	628
Glasgow City	4		521	543	-22		582	565	N/A	753	779	...	989
Aberdeenshire	4		475	500	-25		522	480	N/A	615	619	...	424
Argyll & Bute	4		447	469	-22		471	461	N/A	549	572	...	712
Clackmannanshire	4		443	501	-58		556	452	N/A	671	723	...	704
Aberdeen City	4		413	432	-19		439	403	N/A	524	526	...	414
Perth & Kinross	4		386	398	-12		372	357	N/A	423	400	...	297
Edinburgh City	4		384	419	-35		484	445	N/A	583	602	...	722
Dumfries & Galloway	4		363	368	-5		384	343	N/A	426	469	...	620
East Lothian	4		340	363	-23		435	382	N/A	505	495	...	604
Scottish Borders	4		325	351	-26		378	370	N/A	417	444	...	430
Angus	4		311	340	-29		366	367	N/A	457	452	...	430
Highland	4		299	313	-14		339	307	N/A	451	490	...	531
Moray	4		197	210	-13		233	194	N/A	247	250	...	183
Shetland Islands	3		144	162	-18		162	166	N/A	223	223	...	262
Na h-Eileanan Siar	3		140	151	-11		136	140	N/A	117	136	...	170
Orkney Islands	3		107	134	-27		134	188	N/A	205	246	...	67
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			18 Sep	17 Sep	16 Sep	15 Sep	14 Sep	...	1 Sep
Tests			43022	44687	-1665		46067	41663	N/A	51511	51475	...	46368
Cases			3863	4052	-189		4349	4090	N/A	5199	5327	...	5832
Positivity rate %			9.7	9.8	-0.1		10.2	10.6	N/A	10.8	11.1	...	13.3
Deaths			19.4	19.4	0.0		19.1	16.7	15.6	13.6	11.7	...	6.0
All Vaccinations			5771	6279	-508		6699	7342	N/A	8263	8847	...	15364
1st Dose			2119	2062	+57		2004	2118	N/A	2287	2345	...	2844
2nd Dose			3652	4217	-565		4695	5224	N/A	5976	6502	...	12520
All in hospital			1064	1058	+6		1050	1041	1032	1014	986	...	524
Non-ICU			970	965	+5		959	952	944	927	900	...	473
ICU			94	93	+1		91	89	88	87	86	...	51

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[Jambo-Jimbo]

6 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

It kind of is relevant though as people are being coerced into taking something they might not want just to stop 200 defects a year.

 

That type of argument is the central plank of this thread for the last 18 months.  

 

I'm expecting a full suite of Mike Yeadons, a plethora of Judy Garlands and a 30 minute Neil Oliver special on G Beebies

 

Folic acid is added to flour in over 80 countries and has been for many years now, the UK is way behind the curve on this.

[redjambo]

20 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

@redjambonpt been paying much attention to the numbers, despite your Stirling work. I take thats is over the peak and beginning a downward trend, or is data issue giving a misleading opinion.
 

Had a quick look on travelling tabby and it suggests we’re over the latest peak and the downward, well until the next wave. 

 

Yes, we're heading downwards, case-wise.

[The Mighty Thor]

29 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

Folic acid is added to flour in over 80 countries and has been for many years now, the UK is way behind the curve on this.

What?

 

You mean this isn't the usual 'world leading/world beating' sunlit uplands global Britain (Great nation) stuff we've become used to.

 

I'm shocked. 

[Jambo 4 Ever]

5 hours ago, weegranty said:

I've had a cough and a sore throat since Saturday,hopefully  just a cold but went and got a pcr  test this morning.

Why didn’t you get one on Saturday or yesterday?

[Jambo-Jimbo]

59 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

What?

 

You mean this isn't the usual 'world leading/world beating' sunlit uplands global Britain (Great nation) stuff we've become used to.

 

I'm shocked. 

 

That's right, no world leading/beating banging the UK's drum this time.

 

Gutted eh?

 

[weegranty]

59 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Why didn’t you get one on Saturday or yesterday?

Didn't feel too bad over the weekend but felt worse today.

[Jambo 4 Ever]

40 minutes ago, weegranty said:

Didn't feel too bad over the weekend but felt worse today.

Fair enough but to you and anyone else reading - the moment you have a cough - you MUST book a test no matter what.

 

could save lives 

Edited September 20, 2021 by Jambo 4 Ever

[Nucky Thompson]

1 minute ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Fair enough but to you and anyone else reading - the moment you have a cough - you MUST book a test no matter what.

 

could save lives 

 

[redjambo]

12 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Fair enough but to you and anyone else reading - the moment you have a cough - you MUST book a test no matter what.

 

could save lives 

 

Incorrect.

 

https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-and-conditions/infections-and-poisoning/coronavirus-covid-19/test-and-protect/coronavirus-covid-19-get-a-test-if-you-have-symptoms

 

Symptoms of coronavirus are:

• a high temperature or fever
• a new continuous cough
• a loss of, or change in sense of smell or taste

A new, continuous cough means coughing for longer than an hour, or three or more coughing episodes in 24 hours. If you usually have a cough, it may be worse than usual.

[Hesh]

7 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

Incorrect.

 

https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-and-conditions/infections-and-poisoning/coronavirus-covid-19/test-and-protect/coronavirus-covid-19-get-a-test-if-you-have-symptoms

 

Symptoms of coronavirus are:

• a high temperature or fever
• a new continuous cough
• a loss of, or change in sense of smell or taste

A new, continuous cough means coughing for longer than an hour, or three or more coughing episodes in 24 hours. If you usually have a cough, it may be worse than usual.

Thank you for cutting out the melodrama

[Jambo 4 Ever]

17 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

Incorrect.

 

https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-and-conditions/infections-and-poisoning/coronavirus-covid-19/test-and-protect/coronavirus-covid-19-get-a-test-if-you-have-symptoms

 

Symptoms of coronavirus are:

• a high temperature or fever
• a new continuous cough
• a loss of, or change in sense of smell or taste

A new, continuous cough means coughing for longer than an hour, or three or more coughing episodes in 24 hours. If you usually have a cough, it may be worse than usual.

So by Sunday he should have booked a test

 

never a problem to take a test to be on the safe side anyway 

[weegranty]

1 minute ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

So by Sunday he should have booked a test

 

never a problem to take a test to be on the safe side anyway 

My cough wasn't continuous over the weekend.

[The Mighty Thor]

1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

That's right, no world leading/beating banging the UK's drum this time.

 

Gutted eh?

 

Cannae believe some Johnny Foreigner types thought of this first. 

 

Raging.

[Ked]

7 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

So by Sunday he should have booked a test

 

never a problem to take a test to be on the safe side anyway 

At it.

100%

[redjambo]

13 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

So by Sunday he should have booked a test

 

never a problem to take a test to be on the safe side anyway 

 

Only if he fulfilled the criteria, which is not the simplistic and incorrect one you originally stated. If everyone who had a simple cough booked in for a PCR, it would cause mayhem, particularly around the season when folk start getting coughs. Perhaps you ought to be more careful in your advice and point folk towards lateral flow tests in the first instance for coughs which do not meet the criteria.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Cannae believe some Johnny Foreigner types thought of this first. 

 

Raging.

 

Indeed, the fecking nerve.

[Boab]

1 hour ago, redjambo said:

 

Only if he fulfilled the criteria, which is not the simplistic and incorrect one you originally stated. If everyone who had a simple cough booked in for a PCR, it would cause mayhem, particularly around the season when folk start getting coughs. Perhaps you ought to be more careful in your advice and point folk towards lateral flow tests in the first instance for coughs which do not meet the criteria.

Advice ?

😂

C’mon, Red, it’s not Jambo 4 Ever’s daytime surgery !

It’s guys spraffing on a football message board. No offence, mate !

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 hours ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Fair enough but to you and anyone else reading - the moment you have a cough - you MUST book a test no matter what.

 

could save lives 

Woo hoo welcome back ! Where u been ? And more importantly was it voluntary ? 

[redjambo]

45 minutes ago, Boab said:

Advice ?

😂

C’mon, Red, it’s not Jambo 4 Ever’s daytime surgery !

It’s guys spraffing on a football message board. No offence, mate !

 

I was only ever slightly tongue in cheek, Boab. My delivery is far too dry, I admit.

[Boab]

7 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

I was only ever slightly tongue in cheek, Boab. My delivery is far too dry, I admit.

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[Enzo Chiefo]

On 19/09/2021 at 07:14, Governor Tarkin said:

 

This news certainly takes the edge of the disappointing result in Dingwall.

Be sure to fill your boots, Enzo.

Cheers Guv. Will do.👍

[ri Alban]

If heard immunity is a thing with covid, Scotland must be nearly there. Nae ***** left to catch it.

[JudyJudyJudy]

Stupid is what stupid does ! Unbelievable on so many levels 

 

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/scottish-couple-dream-holiday-fall-21627010

[Turkishcap]

Think a few weeks back I said I had covid cos that's what the hospital told me to get rid of me, went private turns out I had blood clots on both lungs and pneumonia, on top of that a small private centre passed me fit, I could have died had I believed either.

Big private hospital always.

[The Real Maroonblood]

Just now, jonesy said:

Sorry to hear that - you on the mend?

 

Nothing worse than lazy/incompetent healthcare. I remember turning up at a small hospital in China with my son. Doc didn't even look up from her computer and diagnosed him. As I was leaving, she clocked I was a foreigner and suddenly suggested he undergo a battery of (very expensive) tests.  

 

The only Doc I trust is @doctor jambo😜 

 

Probably not even a real doctor.

😄

[Don Dan]

Death from Covid19 for an anti-vaxxer.

 

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/prominent-west-lothian-businessman-and-anti-vaxxer-dies-after-month-long-covid-battle-3389917

[The Real Maroonblood]

11 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Aye, and Red probably isn't even a Commie.

👍

Edited September 21, 2021 by The Real Maroonblood

[Jambo-Jimbo]

11 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

Death from Covid19 for an anti-vaxxer.

 

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/prominent-west-lothian-businessman-and-anti-vaxxer-dies-after-month-long-covid-battle-3389917

 

Last week I was reading about a mother & daughter from N. Ireland who both caught covid-19 and died within days of each other, both worked in the care sector and both were unvaccinated, the mother (aged 55) had shared numerious anti-vaxx videos and conspiracy theory shite online, the daughter (aged 32) leaves behind a husband and 4 young kids.

 

 

[Gizmo]

This is the place for all your anti-vaccine people bearing the consequences of their actions: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/

[ri Alban]

36 minutes ago, jonesy said:

Aye, and Red probably isn't even a Commie.

🤣

[JudyJudyJudy]

59 minutes ago, Boy Daniel said:

Death from Covid19 for an anti-vaxxer.

 

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/prominent-west-lothian-businessman-and-anti-vaxxer-dies-after-month-long-covid-battle-3389917

He was 74 years old !!! 

[JudyJudyJudy]

26 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

This is the place for all your anti-vaccine people bearing the consequences of their actions: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/

Vile comment 

[Ray Gin]

3 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

He was 74 years old !!! 

 

Vile comment.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

31 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

This is the place for all your anti-vaccine people bearing the consequences of their actions: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/

 

It is absoultely tragic the number of people losing their lives after reading & believing some of the anti-vaxxer shite that's on the internet.

 

I caught the tail end of a report on the news the other day where an A&E consultant said that he's seeing more and more unvaccinated people being brought in seriously ill with Covid-19 and many are now begging to be vaccinated, but in many cases it's too late.

Edited September 21, 2021 by Jambo-Jimbo

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Vile comment.

It was a compliment to the guy . He Made his own choices at that age . He wasn’t afraid of illness or death . Good him . Whats to say if he had been jabbed he would have survived anyway ? . He died living not dying . Unlike you who is doom merchant number one on this . There are a few close to you but you take the biscuit . 

Edited September 21, 2021 by JamesM48

[Ray Gin]

Just now, JamesM48 said:

It was a compliment to the guy . He Made his own choices at that age . He wasn’t afraid of illness or death . Go on him . Whats to say if he had been jabbed he would have survived anyway . He died living not dying . Unlike you who doom merchant number one on this . There are a few close to you but you take the biscuit . 

 

My life is pretty much completely back to normal other than working from home, thanks.

 

Imagine that 74 year old was your relative. Have some empathy. Old lives matter.

 

[Ray Gin]

3 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Stupid is what stupid does ! Unbelievable on so many levels 

 

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/scottish-couple-dream-holiday-fall-21627010

 

They were just getting on with it and living their lives. Go on them.

 

[Victorian]

3 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

 

It is absoultely tragic the number of people losing their lives after reading & believing some of the anti-vaxxer shite that's on the internet.

 

I caught the tail end of a report on the news the other day where an A&E consultant said that he's seeing more and more unvaccinated people being brought in seriously ill with Covid-19 and many are now begging to be vaccinated, but in many cases it's too late.

 

In every case it's too late to be vaccinated.  A vaccine trains the immune system to recognise a pathogen and to mount a response to it.  It can never act as a therapeutic intervention.

[JudyJudyJudy]

Just now, Ray Gin said:

 

My life is pretty much completely back to normal other than working from home, thanks.

 

Imagine that 74 year old was your relative. Have some empathy. Old lives matter.

 

If he was I’d feel exactly the same . He stood by his principles . Made his own risk assessment . It was his choice . He was an adult . 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Ray Gin said:

 

They were just getting on with it and living their lives. Go on them.

 

Rattled much ?? So dredging up this from earlier !! Sweet !!! Now that was just plain stupid of them . There’s a difference between stupidity and making choices out of principle. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

They were just getting on with it and living their lives. Go on them.

 

 

[Ray Gin]

2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Rattled much ?? So dredging up this from earlier !! Sweet !!! Now that was just plain stupid of them . There’s a difference between stupidity and making choices out of principle. 

 

Tying yourself up in knots of hypocrisy and contradiction as per usual. All over the place.

 

 

Edited September 21, 2021 by Ray Gin

[Victorian]

2 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Rattled much ?? So dredging up this from earlier !! Sweet !!! Now that was just plain stupid of them . There’s a difference between stupidity and making choices out of principle.