Coronavirus Super Thread ( merged )

[JudyJudyJudy]

7 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

To quite your oft used pish

 

Still to hear your definition of “dangerous bullshit “ ! 💀

[kila]

32 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Yes “ ray gin “ certainly has a fragile ego on this and started the ball rolling today. 

 

You would be keen to be first to respond to that post and start trying to point at others 

 

Edited September 21, 2021 by kila

[Ray Gin]

51 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Yes “ ray gin “ certainly has a fragile ego on this and started the ball rolling today. 

 

You started the ball rolling having a pop at another poster as leaving 'vile comments', despite engaging in a very similar kind of post just hours earlier.

 

I simply chose to point out your hypocrisy.

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

24 minutes ago, kila said:

 

You would be keen to be first to respond to that post and start trying to point at others 

 

And another one comes out the woodwork to post ! Quelle surprise   

[JudyJudyJudy]

10 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

You started the ball rolling having a pop at another poster as leaving 'vile comments', despite engaging in a very similar kind of post just hours earlier.

 

I simply chose to point out your hypocrisy.

 

 

With that ego and sanctimonious  attitude ……

[Gizmo]

6 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Vile comment 

Wind your neck in, Dunning-Kruger. 

 

5 hours ago, jonesy said:

Wow...

That is one massive pile of schadenfreude. Just as well these people have the moral high-ground, meaning they're 100% safe from the otherwise vengeful spokes of the karmic wheel.

The point, which I'm sure you get even if the witless James doesn't, is that not only are they paying the price for their own choices - something a lot of right-wing leaning posters seem to espouse - "personal risk assessment, personal responsibility, bearing the consequences of one's choices" - these are people who actively spread disinformation and often revelled in their new-found infamy as part of the conspiracy group-think, which means they have likely not condemned just themselves to the fate they endured, especially the rising number of political radio talk-show hosts.

I don't take much schadenfreude from the sub-reddit, it's actually saddening and at times, very frustrating, tbh.       




 

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

Wind your neck in, Dunning-Kruger. 

 

The point, which I'm sure you get even if the witless James doesn't, is that not only are they paying the price for their own choices - something a lot of right-wing leaning posters seem to espouse - "personal risk assessment, personal responsibility, bearing the consequences of one's choices" - these are people who actively spread disinformation and often revelled in their new-found infamy as part of the conspiracy group-think, which means they have likely not condemned just themselves to the fate they endured, especially the rising number of political radio talk-show hosts.

I don't take much schadenfreude from the sub-reddit, it's actually saddening and at times, very frustrating, tbh.       




 

So pretentious ! ( Dunning Kruger ) 

 

and you do seem to take delight/ satisfaction  in these awful stories of people dying . You maybe haven’t the self awareness to see it 

[Gizmo]

8 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

So pretentious ! ( Dunning Kruger ) 

 

and you do seem to take delight/ satisfaction  in these awful stories of people dying . You maybe haven’t the self awareness to see it 

Actually I don't, perhaps if you learned to comprehend the written word a little bit better you would see I said JUST THAT in the post you just replied to. 🙄 
 

Quote

"I don't take much schadenfreude from the sub-reddit, it's actually saddening and at times, very frustrating, tbh"

But that's the rub isn't it, your bad-faith posting style and desperation for attention sees you reply without even giving your cognitive facilities the opportunity to digest the intent and meaning of the post. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

Actually I don't, perhaps if you learned to comprehend the written word a little bit better you would see I said JUST THAT in the post you just replied to. 🙄 
 

But that's the rub isn't it, your bad-faith posting style and desperation for attention sees you reply without even giving your cognitive facilities the opportunity to digest the intent and meaning of the post. 

I read that other part actually but didn’t believe it , hence making no comment about it.  Stop trying to  weedle   out of posting distasteful , smug and inhumane comments.   

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

42 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

Wind your neck in, Dunning-Kruger. 

 

The point, which I'm sure you get even if the witless James doesn't, is that not only are they paying the price for their own choices - something a lot of right-wing leaning posters seem to espouse - "personal risk assessment, personal responsibility, bearing the consequences of one's choices" - these are people who actively spread disinformation and often revelled in their new-found infamy as part of the conspiracy group-think, which means they have likely not condemned just themselves to the fate they endured, especially the rising number of political radio talk-show hosts.

I don't take much schadenfreude from the sub-reddit, it's actually saddening and at times, very frustrating, tbh.       




 

 

as Taffin mentioned earlier - almost everyone who catches covid would probably made a choice or choices which made that outcome more likely

 

choosing not to be vaccinated is only one choice (may be an important one) but anyone voluntarily returning to anything like normal (like going to tynecastle for example) is taking a risk (which they are entitled to do) - by doing so they are also (indirectly) encouraging others to take similar risks

 

so while anti-vaccers may be top of the ‘they deserved all they got league’ it’s a very big league so let’s be consistent and pretty much include links to all deaths who may have caught it through some non-essential activity

let’s also include the smokers and the old favourite the obese - ‘oh look a fat person died of a heart-attack’ etc

 

or better still let’s not - people have lost the plot arguing over dead people and to the degree they ‘deserved’ it

 

shameful stuff 

 

lord bj and the fragile ego post

 

 

 

 

[Gizmo]

1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

I read that other part actually but didn’t believe it , hence making no comment about it.  Stop trying to  weedle   out of posting distasteful , smug and inhumane comments.   

Utter trash. 



 

[JudyJudyJudy]

12 minutes ago, Gizmo said:

Utter trash. 



 

Job done ✔️ Point proven . Goodnight 

Edited September 21, 2021 by JamesM48

[Beni]

1 hour ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

as Taffin mentioned earlier - almost everyone who catches covid would probably made a choice or choices which made that outcome more likely

 

choosing not to be vaccinated is only one choice (may be an important one) but anyone voluntarily returning to anything like normal (like going to tynecastle for example) is taking a risk (which they are entitled to do) - by doing so they are also (indirectly) encouraging others to take similar risks

 

so while anti-vaccers may be top of the ‘they deserved all they got league’ it’s a very big league so let’s be consistent and pretty much include links to all deaths who may have caught it through some non-essential activity

let’s also include the smokers and the old favourite the obese - ‘oh look a fat person died of a heart-attack’ etc

 

or better still let’s not - people have lost the plot arguing over dead people and to the degree they ‘deserved’ it

 

shameful stuff 

 

lord bj and the fragile ego post

 

 

 

 

 

How is someone returning to normal encouraging anyone else to do the same? 

 

To carry on the obesity analogy, nobody is saying "oh look a fat person has died of a heart attack".

The are saying "oh look this obese person, who claimed heart attacks aren't real/obesity doesn't cause heart attacks/don't lose weight it won't save you from a heart attack, has died of a heart attack". 

It's not the death random punters that are being highlighted.

The point of highlighting their death is to show that the information they've been spreading has been contradicted by the fact they are now dead. 

 

Who's said they deserve it?

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

1 hour ago, Beni said:

 

How is someone returning to normal encouraging anyone else to do the same? 

 

To carry on the obesity analogy, nobody is saying "oh look a fat person has died of a heart attack".

The are saying "oh look this obese person, who claimed heart attacks aren't real/obesity doesn't cause heart attacks/don't lose weight it won't save you from a heart attack, has died of a heart attack". 

It's not the death random punters that are being highlighted.

The point of highlighting their death is to show that the information they've been spreading has been contradicted by the fact they are now dead. 

 

Who's said they deserve it?

 

paragraph 1 - peer pressure as in someone hesitant about taking the risk of returning to normal MAY be encouraged seeing others doing so (and their individual risk may be higher than many they see doing so)

 

the risks attached to many serious illnesses are well known and ignoring them/being unable to negate them makes the person (in judgemental mode) complicit in their illness - equally it will then encourage others as it’s seen as the norm - especially their children - so again being judgemental a dead parent who was complicit in their death could be viewed (in the same way as the rubbish posted on here) as a health win for the child as they would not continue to be exposed to the bad habits of the now dead parent

 

the whole thing is distasteful beyond words

 

maybe no one has directly said “they deserve it” but I don’t think they need to

 

we probably won’t agree so carry on highlighting these deaths on the forum for in your mind possibly it’s an important message to get across

 

 

[jambogaza]

Has anyone actually waited more than 48 hours for a result? We got one on Monday morning and have had no results yet. They say allow 72 hours but it is very frustrating given nearly everyone I know who required a test received their results within 24 hours.

[ri Alban]

12 minutes ago, Barack said:

Well, that was interesting. 

Boring thread now. Get a fecking job. I just read reds info, specifically Renfrewshire numbers, read a couple of posts, see James pish and scroll, because it usually been posted before. 

 

 

Lord Bj and others usually have good conversation, but I think they're all sick of it(the thread) now, anaw. 

 

Oh didn't realise 74 years of living should be what you should be grateful for. Pathetic, many folk of that age have plenty left to give and being stupid and stubborn should not disqualify you from living. Just get the vaccine,ffs, there's other people you need to think about, like wife and kids.

 

 

As you were, hope the caravans are still static.

Edited September 22, 2021 by ri Alban

[Dazo]

2 hours ago, jambogaza said:

Has anyone actually waited more than 48 hours for a result? We got one on Monday morning and have had no results yet. They say allow 72 hours but it is very frustrating given nearly everyone I know who required a test received their results within 24 hours.

Still waiting on the wife’s result after 3 weeks. 🙄 

 

The rest of us were negative so just went with that. 

[Beni]

9 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

paragraph 1 - peer pressure as in someone hesitant about taking the risk of returning to normal MAY be encouraged seeing others doing so (and their individual risk may be higher than many they see doing so)

 

 

Previously you seemed to be advocating light touch lockdown/restrictions and people taking more personal responsibility, now you're saying people doing exactly that are putting others at risk via peer pressure.

Seems a bit contradictory.

 

9 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

the risks attached to many serious illnesses are well known and ignoring them/being unable to negate them makes the person (in judgemental mode) complicit in their illness - equally it will then encourage others as it’s seen as the norm - especially their children - so again being judgemental a dead parent who was complicit in their death could be viewed (in the same way as the rubbish posted on here) as a health win for the child as they would not continue to be exposed to the bad habits of the now dead parent

 

 

 

They've been putting pictures of dead peoples' damaged lungs on cigarette packets for years to highlight the dangers of tobacco.

How is that any different from highlighting the death of a Covid/vaccination denier?

Or do you find that distasteful beyond words too?

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

52 minutes ago, Beni said:

 

Previously you seemed to be advocating light touch lockdown/restrictions and people taking more personal responsibility, now you're saying people doing exactly that are putting others at risk via peer pressure.

Seems a bit contradictory.

 

 

 

They've been putting pictures of dead peoples' damaged lungs on cigarette packets for years to highlight the dangers of tobacco.

How is that any different from highlighting the death of a Covid/vaccination denier?

Or do you find that distasteful beyond words too?

 

never advocated anything mate so you are wrong there

 

i raised points for discussion one of them being alternatives to lockdowns so may be that would be where you are getting confused - those alternatives coupled with expert advice / guidelines like chief mammys good advice of just because you are allowed to do something doesn’t mean it is the sensible thing to do (depending on circumstances )

 

the cigarette packet thing - 2 things (to my knowledge) the damaged lungs were of anonymous people - secondly  if highlighting the deaths of anti-vaxxers is s similar public service then who is the target audience on here ? to my knowledge all bar a few (who are apparently so far down rabbit hole etc etc .,..) are vaccinated even those opposed to perceived coercion

 

who is the target audience in the very funnily-named a leopard ate my face ?

 

 public service to help people make the right decisions entitled a leopard are my face

 

keep up the good work mate 

 

 

[Turkishcap]

On 21/09/2021 at 14:10, jonesy said:

Sorry to hear that - you on the mend?

 

Nothing worse than lazy/incompetent healthcare. I remember turning up at a small hospital in China with my son. Doc didn't even look up from her computer and diagnosed him. As I was leaving, she clocked I was a foreigner and suddenly suggested he undergo a battery of (very expensive) tests.  

 

The only Doc I trust is @doctor jambo😜 

 

Yeah more meds but feeling good.

[Footballfirst]

6 hours ago, jambogaza said:

Has anyone actually waited more than 48 hours for a result? We got one on Monday morning and have had no results yet. They say allow 72 hours but it is very frustrating given nearly everyone I know who required a test received their results within 24 hours.

My wife had a PCR test at 10:30am yesterday at Oxgangs Library, after being identified as a close contact of a positive case. She got her negative result overnight, so is back to work as normal today.

[Jambo-Jimbo]

I was channel hopping and came across a piece on CNN, where they were on about some Republican states such as Florida & Idaho who are appointing well known anti-vaxxers & covid deniers to senior positions in their states medical hierarchy.  That country is just bonkers.

 

This comes at a time when Covid-19 has officially become America's deadliest pandemic, surpassing the death toll of the 1918 flu pandemic.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/covid-19-is-now-the-deadliest-pandemic-in-us-history

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/20/covid-is-americas-deadliest-pandemic-as-us-fatalities-near-1918-flu-estimates.html

 

[The Real Maroonblood]

9 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said:

I was channel hopping and came across a piece on CNN, where they were on about some Republican states such as Florida & Idaho who are appointing well known anti-vaxxers & covid deniers to senior positions in their states medical hierarchy.  That country is just bonkers.

 

This comes at a time when Covid-19 has officially become America's deadliest pandemic, surpassing the death toll of the 1918 flu pandemic.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/covid-19-is-now-the-deadliest-pandemic-in-us-history

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/20/covid-is-americas-deadliest-pandemic-as-us-fatalities-near-1918-flu-estimates.html

 

Dearie me.

Absolute morons.

[scott herbertson]

Good numbers today in terms of positivity, hospitalisation and ICU occupation - looks like the trend is firmly downward though pof course there is unfortunately a lag with deaths

 

[redjambo]

Scottish numbers: 22 September 2021

Summary

• 3,598 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+728; down from 4,917 a week ago]
• 49,597 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [+23,004]
  • 7.8% of these were positive [-3.9%]
• 31 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+13]
• 82 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-12]
• 1,076 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-31]
• 4,163,235 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,815,907 have received their second dose [+2,400; +2,360]

[Fxxx the SPFL]

3 minutes ago, redjambo said:

Scottish numbers: 22 September 2021

Summary

• 3,598 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+728; down from 4,917 a week ago]
• 49,597 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [+23,004]
  • 7.8% of these were positive [-3.9%]
• 31 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+13]
• 82 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-12]
• 1,076 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-31]
• 4,163,235 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,815,907 have received their second dose [+2,400; +2,360]

Cheers Red good to see the numbers in ICU and Hospital dropping

[Victorian]

Big old dive for the % rate but the daily total is still hovering.  Got to hope that rate continues to creep downwards.  There's been so much fluctuation that it's anyone's guess what the situation will be like next week.  

[redjambo]

The latest trend stats:

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO		Today	Yesterday			20 Sep	19 Sep	18 Sep	17 Sep	16 Sep	...	1 Sep
Scotland	4		461	486	-25		495	519	557	524	N/A	...	747
West Dunbartonshire	4		749	763	-14		787	821	875	825	N/A	...	1105
North Lanarkshire	4		619	665	-46		664	686	721	679	N/A	...	1261
South Ayrshire	4		596	638	-42		663	670	673	614	N/A	...	658
East Dunbartonshire	4		593	573	+20		585	617	656	584	N/A	...	1150
East Ayrshire	4		576	587	-11		596	604	633	631	N/A	...	627
ri Alban’s Turf	4		574	643	-69		637	650	690	703	N/A	...	1041
North Ayrshire	4		561	609	-48		616	647	682	658	N/A	...	772
Falkirk	4		536	527	+9		543	569	605	519	N/A	...	690
Dundee City	4		532	520	+12		539	582	609	592	N/A	...	697
Fife	4		526	544	-18		546	573	636	588	N/A	...	597
Inverclyde	4		522	587	-65		610	625	671	711	N/A	...	1238
South Lanarkshire	4		508	559	-51		551	563	601	565	N/A	...	1013
West Lothian	4		502	555	-53		580	613	700	639	N/A	...	668
Stirling	4		497	526	-29		539	569	612	542	N/A	...	628
Midlothian	4		494	536	-42		545	596	666	612	N/A	...	754
East Renfrewshire	4		493	563	-70		601	656	714	709	N/A	...	1080
Glasgow City	4		483	516	-33		521	543	582	565	N/A	...	989
Clackmannanshire	4		474	452	+22		443	501	556	452	N/A	...	704
Aberdeenshire	4		444	466	-22		475	500	522	480	N/A	...	424
Argyll & Bute	4		423	434	-11		447	469	471	461	N/A	...	712
Perth & Kinross	4		388	375	+13		386	398	372	357	N/A	...	297
Aberdeen City	4		383	397	-14		413	432	439	403	N/A	...	414
Dumfries & Galloway	4		363	355	+8		363	368	384	343	N/A	...	620
Edinburgh City	4		338	367	-29		384	419	484	445	N/A	...	722
Angus	4		314	292	+22		311	340	366	367	N/A	...	430
East Lothian	4		303	327	-24		340	363	435	382	N/A	...	604
Highland	4		291	295	-4		299	313	339	307	N/A	...	531
Scottish Borders	4		287	299	-12		325	351	378	370	N/A	...	430
Moray	4		205	207	-2		197	210	233	194	N/A	...	183
Na h-Eileanan Siar	4		166	147	+19		140	151	136	140	N/A	...	170
Orkney Islands	3		116	103	+13		107	134	134	188	N/A	...	67
Shetland Islands	3		79	131	-52		144	162	162	166	N/A	...	262
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			20 Sep	19 Sep	18 Sep	17 Sep	16 Sep	...	1 Sep
Tests			41225	42337	-1112		43022	44687	46067	41663	N/A	...	46368
Cases			3603	3791	-188		3863	4052	4349	4090	N/A	...	5832
Positivity rate %			9.4	9.7	-0.3		9.7	9.8	10.2	10.6	N/A	...	13.3
Deaths			19.1	19.0	+0.1		19.4	19.4	19.1	16.7	15.6	...	6.0
All Vaccinations			5814	5847	-33		5771	6279	6699	7342	N/A	...	15364
1st Dose			2341	2276	+65		2119	2062	2004	2118	N/A	...	2844
2nd Dose			3473	3571	-98		3652	4217	4695	5224	N/A	...	12520
All in hospital			1069	1071	-2		1064	1058	1050	1041	1032	...	524
Non-ICU			976	976	0		970	965	959	952	944	...	473
ICU			93	95	-2		94	93	91	89	88	...	51

[redjambo]

12 minutes ago, **** the SPFL said:

Cheers Red good to see the numbers in ICU and Hospital dropping

 

Indeed it is!

[Fxxx the SPFL]

7 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Big old dive for the % rate but the daily total is still hovering.  Got to hope that rate continues to creep downwards.  There's been so much fluctuation that it's anyone's guess what the situation will be like next week.  

i tend to just look at the hospitalisations and as long as they keep nosing downwards fine. Probably a spike in a couple of weeks with the Students who knows.

[The Real Maroonblood]

9 minutes ago, redjambo said:

The latest trend stats:

 

			7-day per-100,000 cases
Council Area	WHO		Today	Yesterday			20 Sep	19 Sep	18 Sep	17 Sep	16 Sep	...	1 Sep
Scotland	4		461	486	-25		495	519	557	524	N/A	...	747
West Dunbartonshire	4		749	763	-14		787	821	875	825	N/A	...	1105
North Lanarkshire	4		619	665	-46		664	686	721	679	N/A	...	1261
South Ayrshire	4		596	638	-42		663	670	673	614	N/A	...	658
East Dunbartonshire	4		593	573	+20		585	617	656	584	N/A	...	1150
East Ayrshire	4		576	587	-11		596	604	633	631	N/A	...	627
ri Alban’s Turf	4		574	643	-69		637	650	690	703	N/A	...	1041
North Ayrshire	4		561	609	-48		616	647	682	658	N/A	...	772
Falkirk	4		536	527	+9		543	569	605	519	N/A	...	690
Dundee City	4		532	520	+12		539	582	609	592	N/A	...	697
Fife	4		526	544	-18		546	573	636	588	N/A	...	597
Inverclyde	4		522	587	-65		610	625	671	711	N/A	...	1238
South Lanarkshire	4		508	559	-51		551	563	601	565	N/A	...	1013
West Lothian	4		502	555	-53		580	613	700	639	N/A	...	668
Stirling	4		497	526	-29		539	569	612	542	N/A	...	628
Midlothian	4		494	536	-42		545	596	666	612	N/A	...	754
East Renfrewshire	4		493	563	-70		601	656	714	709	N/A	...	1080
Glasgow City	4		483	516	-33		521	543	582	565	N/A	...	989
Clackmannanshire	4		474	452	+22		443	501	556	452	N/A	...	704
Aberdeenshire	4		444	466	-22		475	500	522	480	N/A	...	424
Argyll & Bute	4		423	434	-11		447	469	471	461	N/A	...	712
Perth & Kinross	4		388	375	+13		386	398	372	357	N/A	...	297
Aberdeen City	4		383	397	-14		413	432	439	403	N/A	...	414
Dumfries & Galloway	4		363	355	+8		363	368	384	343	N/A	...	620
Edinburgh City	4		338	367	-29		384	419	484	445	N/A	...	722
Angus	4		314	292	+22		311	340	366	367	N/A	...	430
East Lothian	4		303	327	-24		340	363	435	382	N/A	...	604
Highland	4		291	295	-4		299	313	339	307	N/A	...	531
Scottish Borders	4		287	299	-12		325	351	378	370	N/A	...	430
Moray	4		205	207	-2		197	210	233	194	N/A	...	183
Na h-Eileanan Siar	4		166	147	+19		140	151	136	140	N/A	...	170
Orkney Islands	3		116	103	+13		107	134	134	188	N/A	...	67
Shetland Islands	3		79	131	-52		144	162	162	166	N/A	...	262
7-day averages			Today	Yesterday			20 Sep	19 Sep	18 Sep	17 Sep	16 Sep	...	1 Sep
Tests			41225	42337	-1112		43022	44687	46067	41663	N/A	...	46368
Cases			3603	3791	-188		3863	4052	4349	4090	N/A	...	5832
Positivity rate %			9.4	9.7	-0.3		9.7	9.8	10.2	10.6	N/A	...	13.3
Deaths			19.1	19.0	+0.1		19.4	19.4	19.1	16.7	15.6	...	6.0
All Vaccinations			5814	5847	-33		5771	6279	6699	7342	N/A	...	15364
1st Dose			2341	2276	+65		2119	2062	2004	2118	N/A	...	2844
2nd Dose			3473	3571	-98		3652	4217	4695	5224	N/A	...	12520
All in hospital			1069	1071	-2		1064	1058	1050	1041	1032	...	524
Non-ICU			976	976	0		970	965	959	952	944	...	473
ICU			93	95	-2		94	93	91	89	88	...	51

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[Beni]

3 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

never advocated anything mate so you are wrong there

 

i raised points for discussion one of them being alternatives to lockdowns so may be that would be where you are getting confused - those alternatives coupled with expert advice / guidelines like chief mammys good advice of just because you are allowed to do something doesn’t mean it is the sensible thing to do (depending on circumstances )

 

Fair enough, I think it's reasonable to presume what people post is their opinion unless they say otherwise, and I don't remember you doing that, but might be wrong about that.

 

3 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

the cigarette packet thing - 2 things (to my knowledge) the damaged lungs were of anonymous people - secondly  if highlighting the deaths of anti-vaxxers is s similar public service then who is the target audience on here ? to my knowledge all bar a few (who are apparently so far down rabbit hole etc etc .,..) are vaccinated even those opposed to perceived coercion

 

This is a public forum, anyone can read it, so I don't think you can assume that the only people that read this thread post on it too.

When the vaccine passport thread came on the scene there were quite a lot of new people joined up to post on that thread, and several of them were covid/vaccine sceptics/deniers. They must have been reading the forum before joining, maybe if they read that people who had espoused similar views have died from Covid it will give them pause for thought.  

 

3 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

who is the target audience in the very funnily-named a leopard ate my face ?

 

 public service to help people make the right decisions entitled a leopard are my face

 

Yesterday was the first time I looked at that page so you'll know as much about it as I do,  I'd guess the target audience is Reddit users. 

I don't know if that page was set up before the pandemic, but the phrase about leopards definitely preceded Covid, and was a shorthand for people facing the consequences of their actions. 

The posts aren't exclusive to Covid, so you're maybe reading a bit too much into it.

 

3 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

keep up the good work mate 

 

Will do mate.

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

23 minutes ago, Beni said:

 

Fair enough, I think it's reasonable to presume what people post is their opinion unless they say otherwise, and I don't remember you doing that, but might be wrong about that.

 

 

This is a public forum, anyone can read it, so I don't think you can assume that the only people that read this thread post on it too.

When the vaccine passport thread came on the scene there were quite a lot of new people joined up to post on that thread, and several of them were covid/vaccine sceptics/deniers. They must have been reading the forum before joining, maybe if they read that people who had espoused similar views have died from Covid it will give them pause for thought.  

 

 

Yesterday was the first time I looked at that page so you'll know as much about it as I do,  I'd guess the target audience is Reddit users. 

I don't know if that page was set up before the pandemic, but the phrase about leopards definitely preceded Covid, and was a shorthand for people facing the consequences of their actions. 

The posts aren't exclusive to Covid, so you're maybe reading a bit too much into it.

 

 

Will do mate.

first part you are wrong - the general theme of my posts on here have roughly gone along the lines of a poster saying we should do A and B will happen and me going have you thought of all the other complexities in your assumption that B will actually happen

 

those examples could be for or against lockdown / the likelihood and extent of covid being seasonal / whether we should copy nz as we’re also an island etc etc - mostly me asking questions as the experts don’t know though the answers so it’s unlikely I will though plenty on here thought they did - in the most part I challenged the certainty of their opinions/conclusions rather than their opinion in itself

If you think the posts on this forum or on a leopard ate my face and such like about anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers etc losing their lives are posted primarily as a help and warning to others without distaste then we’ll just have to disagree on that one

 

 

 

 

 

[jambogaza]

2 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

My wife had a PCR test at 10:30am yesterday at Oxgangs Library, after being identified as a close contact of a positive case. She got her negative result overnight, so is back to work as normal today.

 

That's the case for the vast majority of people. My daughter had one at 12pm on Monday and we are still waiting. It is extremely frustrating, exacerbated by the fact they won't investigate delayed results until 72 hours. 

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

1 hour ago, Victorian said:

Big old dive for the % rate but the daily total is still hovering.  Got to hope that rate continues to creep downwards.  There's been so much fluctuation that it's anyone's guess what the situation will be like next week.  

seen a couple of recent interviews where scientists saying it could wax and wane without any obvious reason - as you say anyone’s guess (including theirs)

 

 

[Ray Gin]

1 hour ago, redjambo said:

Scottish numbers: 22 September 2021

Summary

• 3,598 new cases of COVID-19 reported [+728; down from 4,917 a week ago]
• 49,597 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results [+23,004]
  • 7.8% of these were positive [-3.9%]
• 31 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+13]
• 82 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-12]
• 1,076 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 [-31]
• 4,163,235 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination and 3,815,907 have received their second dose [+2,400; +2,360]

 

Wow...excellent drop in positive test results. Hospital numbers dipping for the first time in ages too. Long may it continue. 👏

[Footballfirst]

1 minute ago, Ray Gin said:

 

Wow...excellent drop in positive test results. Hospital numbers dipping for the first time in ages too. Long may it continue. 👏

One of the stats still to be cautious about is the ICU number. While it dropped nicely today, I'd imagine that half of the 49 deaths reported over the last couple of days came from those in ICU.  Daily admissions to ICU average around 10, which is where they have been for the last couple of weeks.

 

Increased cases -> two weeks -> Increased hospitalisations -> one week -> increased ICU -> one week -> increased deaths

 

Falling cases -> two weeks -> falling hospitalisations -> one week -> falling ICU -> one week -> falling deaths 

 

Case rates peaked just over two weeks ago (6 Sep), so we should be entering the "falling hospitalisations" stage.  My rough model can obviously go tits up if there is another spike in cases as students return.

[scott herbertson]

1 minute ago, Footballfirst said:

One of the stats still to be cautious about is the ICU number. While it dropped nicely today, I'd imagine that half of the 49 deaths reported over the last couple of days came from those in ICU.  Daily admissions to ICU average around 10, which is where they have been for the last couple of weeks.

 

Increased cases -> two weeks -> Increased hospitalisations -> one week -> increased ICU -> one week -> increased deaths

 

Falling cases -> two weeks -> falling hospitalisations -> one week -> falling ICU -> one week -> falling deaths 

 

Case rates peaked just over two weeks ago (6 Sep), so we should be entering the "falling hospitalisations" stage.  My rough model can obviously go tits up if there is another spike in cases as students return.

 

 

One factor is that most of the students this time round have either had covid (one of my kids) , so will have some antibodies hopefully, have had vaccinations (both my kids have had both) . So the R rate should be inhibited in that group

[The Real Maroonblood]

3 minutes ago, scott herbertson said:

 

 

One factor is that most of the students this time round have either had covid (one of my kids) , so will have some antibodies hopefully, have had vaccinations (both my kids have had both) . So the R rate should be inhibited in that group

That sounds positive.

[escobri]

10 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

That sounds positive.

It is estimated over 93% of adult population in Scotland had antibodies in August.

[The Real Maroonblood]

17 minutes ago, escobri said:

It is estimated over 93% of adult population in Scotland had antibodies in August.

👍

[Enzo Chiefo]

Anyone know if Corporate Travel Management are still the only supplier of Day 2 PCR tests when returning to Scotland? 

There are plenty suppliers here in Spain for the pre-flight antigen tests but not sure about the Day 2 arrival ones.

[Enzo Chiefo]

3 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

👍

Means you can safely enjoy a liquid lunch!👍🍺

[The Real Maroonblood]

9 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Means you can safely enjoy a liquid lunch!👍🍺

[Footballfirst]

11 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said:

Anyone know if Corporate Travel Management are still the only supplier of Day 2 PCR tests when returning to Scotland? 

There are plenty suppliers here in Spain for the pre-flight antigen tests but not sure about the Day 2 arrival ones.

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/how-to-find-the-cheapest-private-coronavirus-tests-for-travel/#arrivalstwo

 

There are also discount codes you can use with some of the private suppliers.

My last day 2 test was with Randox (£48, reduced to £43 with a discount).

 

From the document link.

(1) Randox Health via code BritishAirways43. (2) Randox Health via code easyjet2021. (3) Randox Health via code ejh2021. (4) Randox Health (for Jet2) via code Test21. (5) Randox Health via code KLM. (6) For 2021 travel to Cyprus, Greece & Spain (incl Balearic, Canary & Greek Islands), booked by Thursday 30 September. (7) Randox Health via code FLYRYANAIR. (8) Via code AMEX20.

Discount codes for private testers via airlines are only for their own passengers.

Edited September 22, 2021 by Footballfirst

[Enzo Chiefo]

8 minutes ago, Lord BJ said:

 

You can use the English private companies now. There is loads of them at various price points. 

 

Depending on your flying with you might fight they have a deal with or at least recommend some private supplier./

Thanks Lord BJ. Yes, the link on the Scot Gov site didn't seem to work for me but I've googled the other self-swab ones now. 👍

[Enzo Chiefo]

3 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/how-to-find-the-cheapest-private-coronavirus-tests-for-travel/#arrivalstwo

 

There are also discount codes you can use with some of the private suppliers.

My last day 2 test was with Randox (£48, reduced to £43 with a discount).

 

From the document link.

(1) Randox Health via code BritishAirways43. (2) Randox Health via code easyjet2021. (3) Randox Health via code ejh2021. (4) Randox Health via code Test21. (5) Randox Health via code KLM. (6) For 2021 travel to Cyprus, Greece & Spain (incl Balearic, Canary & Greek Islands), booked by Thursday 30 September. (7) Randox Health via code FLYRYANAIR. (8) Via code AMEX20.

Discount codes for private testers via airlines are only for their own passengers.

Thanks for that FF. I'll have a look at the options there. At least they bring the price down a bit, from the £68 NHS one..👍

[Nucky Thompson]

How the pandemic ends?

 

How the Covid pandemic ends: Scientists look to the past to see the future (statnews.com)

 

Decent article 

[Beni]

2 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

If you think the posts on this forum or on a leopard ate my face and such like about anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers etc losing their lives are posted primarily as a help and warning to others without distaste then we’ll just have to disagree on that one

 

I'm not going to second guess why people are posting about the deaths of covid deniers, that's up to them, and you are free to speculate on my thoughts if you like, but I do think it's useful for people to know that the virus doesn't care what they believe, what YouTube channels they watch, or what conspiracy sites they subscribe to.

You find that distasteful, fair enough, personally I find the spreading of disinformation which costs people their lives more distasteful.

[willie wallace]

2 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/how-to-find-the-cheapest-private-coronavirus-tests-for-travel/#arrivalstwo

 

There are also discount codes you can use with some of the private suppliers.

My last day 2 test was with Randox (£48, reduced to £43 with a discount).

 

From the document link.

(1) Randox Health via code BritishAirways43. (2) Randox Health via code easyjet2021. (3) Randox Health via code ejh2021. (4) Randox Health (for Jet2) via code Test21. (5) Randox Health via code KLM. (6) For 2021 travel to Cyprus, Greece & Spain (incl Balearic, Canary & Greek Islands), booked by Thursday 30 September. (7) Randox Health via code FLYRYANAIR. (8) Via code AMEX20.

Discount codes for private testers via airlines are only for their own passengers.

Are you still hoping to make it to Holland FF.

I think you mentioned October in of one of your posts.

I am also now aiming for mid to late October but not too confident