Footballfirst Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, redjambo said: Scottish numbers: 16 January 2021 Summary 1,753 new cases of COVID-19 reported [-407] 24,314 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results – 8.4% of these were positive [-10,618; +0.9%] 78 new reported death(s) of people who have tested positive [+17] 145 people are in intensive care with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+4] 1,863 people are in hospital with recently confirmed COVID-19 [+3] 224,840 people have received their first dose of the COVID-19 vaccination and 3,331 have received their second dose [=; =] Note: I have no idea why those vaccination figures haven't increased today. It will probably due to the data not being available or mistakenly not being applied to the report. I'm sure I heard it said at a briefing that no numbers would be announced at the weekend. The UK figures however, may include Scottish numbers, but we will have to wait a couple of hours for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 No data for Scotland or Wales in the weekend UK vaccination numbers. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare#card-people_who_have_received_vaccinations_by_report_date_daily Select the "by nation" and "1st dose data" options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Footballfirst said: I'm sure I heard it said at a briefing that no numbers would be announced at the weekend. The UK figures however, may include Scottish numbers, but we will have to wait a couple of hours for them. Ah, ok. Cheers FF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I think I'd rather go to a mass vaccination centre like that than a cathedral that is blaring out its organ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Chicago for me... Right, back on topic.. Still stickin' with that lot? Admirable stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWL Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Not enough facepalms for these arseholes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-55676507 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Just now, JWL said: Not enough facepalms for these arseholes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-55676507 They won't be lovin it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Walked through town today not that many changes . A few coffee places had queues or people standing about chatting. All the Greggs seemed closed which was surprising. A couple of pubs doing takeaway pints but big signs imploring folk only to drink it indoors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, jonesy said: Ha! Was cursing the 'hawks last night when they almost spoilt my bet. I was cursing them for different reasons, however, illness and injury to key playe...wait a minute the Blackhawks are the Hearts of the NHL 37 minutes ago, J.T.F.Robertson said: Still stickin' with that lot? Admirable stuff! Character building, between them and Hearts I'll be full of character, depressed but full of character Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weakened Offender Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, the general said: Walked through town today not that many changes . A few coffee places had queues or people standing about chatting. All the Greggs seemed closed which was surprising. A couple of pubs doing takeaway pints but big signs imploring folk only to drink it indoors Jolly Judge was doing pints yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBE Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lord BJ said: Switzerland are planning to have a referendum on lockdowns. The are going to hold one about removing the govts power to impose lockdown measures. It’s probably worth noting Switzerland hold referendum over a lot of things, you basically only need to get so many signatures on a petition to trigger one. Apart from Million, Billion & Trillionaires...who gives a ***k about the worlds ultimate fence sitters? Edited January 16, 2021 by OBE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the general Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 38 minutes ago, Weakened Offender said: Jolly Judge was doing pints yesterday. Yesterday was the last day for a few before the new laws came in today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Big crowd at Green Bay for the playoffs and that's with the USA ravaged with covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Big crowd at Green Bay for the playoffs and that's with the USA ravaged with covid. We'll be back at Tynie to celebrate clinching the title. Events will move quickly as the vaccinate programme picks up pace imo. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: We'll be back at Tynie to celebrate clinching the title. Events will move quickly as the vaccinate programme picks up pace imo. 👍 I really hope so mate. I'm cracking up with all this shit. Mental health is really taking a back seat to the SG strategy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, jonesy said: I doubt that outdoor sports events with reasonable precautions taken - not a free-for-all, before the usual suspects start - would contribute in any real way to infection rates. Well done the Septics for allowing fans in some states. exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, jonesy said: Interesting country with a unique mix of overlapping cultures and languages. Generally a progressive people, but not afraid to go their own way. Most Swiss - normal folk, not rich - I've met have been polite, confident people with good knowledge of the world. Unfortunately my only visit there is a complete blur (Basel in 2004!). I was there too Jonesy. I remember it being cold but a fresh cold. Unfortunately, can't remember much about the place due to the beer but there were trams iirc😂. And I'm sure, in the airport, it was exit left for France, right for Switzerland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: I really hope so mate. I'm cracking up with all this shit. Mental health is really taking a back seat to the SG strategy I know NT. There has to be a road map out of this shit soon tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, jonesy said: Interesting country with a unique mix of overlapping cultures and languages. Generally a progressive people, but not afraid to go their own way. Most Swiss - normal folk, not rich - I've met have been polite, confident people with good knowledge of the world. Unfortunately my only visit there is a complete blur (Basel in 2004!). Agree. Its a country which goes its own way . Good on them. Not stuck to any historical allegiances . hatreds or ties like the UK. Ive been to Zurich and Basle. Both great cities although very expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Churches and other religious institutions can gtf. If schools are closed, it would be obscene to open up churches, mosques, etc. Without starting on the fact that it’s not essential to do it in person (do it online), the demographics that attend religious institutions is pretty closely related to the demographic that gets pumped by COVID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: Rabb claiming all over 18’s in U.K. will be jabbed by September. Some papers claiming could be done by June. Sufficient supplies would make it entirely possible to do by June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, Captain Sausage said: Churches and other religious institutions can gtf. If schools are closed, it would be obscene to open up churches, mosques, etc. Without starting on the fact that it’s not essential to do it in person (do it online), the demographics that attend religious institutions is pretty closely related to the demographic that gets pumped by COVID. That's a number of months now that my parents have been having their church services online. It works fine for them. Early on in the pandemic, the local minister went around all the congregation members who were on their own and tried to ensure that they were set up with the technical equipment and know-how to allow her to keep in communication with them during the crisis. The church has a very busy WhatsApp group for example. For Christmas they sent everyone some food and party hats etc., and then held a party online. They'll be doing similar for Burns Night, sending everyone haggis. There's no need for them to be physically mingling during a pandemic which would make it dangerous for them to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Heard it said on the radio while I was driving in Oklahoma today that the experts are forecasting another 100,000 dead in the US by coronavirus in the next 3 weeks alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Not long until the budget will be announced I dread to think what we are facing in tax increases to pay for this shit show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Not long until the budget will be announced I dread to think what we are facing in tax increases to pay for this shit show. A new settlement of the portfolio of taxation is the way to pay for it. Everyone should now be looking forward to a future of all people paying a fair and sustainable share of the burden. Ordinary working people and Tory enablers and all points in between. Post-crisis, this is the absolutely ideal time to start a gradual shift away from the self entitled culture of low personal taxation towards a fairer settlement where the country can properly fund all public services to a gold standard, with finances to spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sausage Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Victorian said: A new settlement of the portfolio of taxation is the way to pay for it. Everyone should now be looking forward to a future of all people paying a fair and sustainable share of the burden. Ordinary working people and Tory enablers and all points in between. Post-crisis, this is the absolutely ideal time to start a gradual shift away from the self entitled culture of low personal taxation towards a fairer settlement where the country can properly fund all public services to a gold standard, with finances to spare. Totally agree. Hopefully a simpler tax system that enables it. None of this self employed people paying themselves dividends, offshore tax loopholes and corporations pulling their weight too. Maybe I’m delusional but I absolutely don’t mind paying more tax, if it feels like everyone is working together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Victorian said: A new settlement of the portfolio of taxation is the way to pay for it. Everyone should now be looking forward to a future of all people paying a fair and sustainable share of the burden. Ordinary working people and Tory enablers and all points in between. Post-crisis, this is the absolutely ideal time to start a gradual shift away from the self entitled culture of low personal taxation towards a fairer settlement where the country can properly fund all public services to a gold standard, with finances to spare. Do you genuinely believe that scotland suffers from low personal taxation? When you say ordinary working people would that be someone earning 49k finding themselves in a 40% tax bracket? I dont see our public services as underfunded more mismanaged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, Victorian said: A new settlement of the portfolio of taxation is the way to pay for it. Everyone should now be looking forward to a future of all people paying a fair and sustainable share of the burden. Ordinary working people and Tory enablers and all points in between. Post-crisis, this is the absolutely ideal time to start a gradual shift away from the self entitled culture of low personal taxation towards a fairer settlement where the country can properly fund all public services to a gold standard, with finances to spare. You Sir are indeed a truly remarkable character, an expert in absolutely everything. The world needs to know you exist imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, Victorian said: A new settlement of the portfolio of taxation is the way to pay for it. Everyone should now be looking forward to a future of all people paying a fair and sustainable share of the burden. Ordinary working people and Tory enablers and all points in between. Post-crisis, this is the absolutely ideal time to start a gradual shift away from the self entitled culture of low personal taxation towards a fairer settlement where the country can properly fund all public services to a gold standard, with finances to spare. Post brexit the Tories have no excuses for not collecting tax from those companies who were writing off everything to some small office in Luxembourg or Ireland and paying sod all here. Start collecting that money and you solve half your problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Do you genuinely believe that scotland suffers from low personal taxation? When you say ordinary working people would that be someone earning 49k finding themselves in a 40% tax bracket? I dont see our public services as underfunded more mismanaged More or less the response I expected. £49,000 paying tax on the top slice of earnings at 40%? Yes of course. Nobody will ever provide anything that comes close to an argument that £49,000 is not a very comfortable level of income. A small part of that income being taxed at a higher rate is entirely fair and affordable. The comment about public services is nothing but an excuse. A bogus cliche to justify the status quo. The new settlement should be to prevent wastage, increase efficiency and properly fund. All in conjunction together. Everyone will soon be getting their lives back. For lots of people it will be like getting a second chance at life. Society needs to ensure that the eternal contract of mutual enablement between the Tories and their core vote does not place the burden of payment on the least well off and future generations to a disproportionate amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Victorian said: A small part of that income being taxed at a higher rate is entirely fair and affordable. A facet that often seems to be neglected. They're not taking 40% of the entire 49K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Cant see too many tax rises on the horizon. Its too early for that. Well need to be on the road to economic recovery before anything major. Any increases will be ones that don't make too many headlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Wonder if Branson and co might pay a little more tax to the UK 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Just now, Candy said: Cant see too many tax rises on the horizon. Its too early for that. Well need to be on the road to economic recovery before anything major. Any increases will be ones that don't make too many headlines. It should start now and be a gradual process. There will never be a better time to introduce a reformed tax settlement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Victorian said: Nobody will ever provide anything that comes close to an argument that £49,000 is not a very comfortable level of income. 49 grand is a decent wedge, but ot isn't a very comfortable income if there's only one earner in the household, a couple of kids, and a mortgate with Edinburgh house prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gone said: Wonder if Branson and co might pay a little more tax to the UK 😬 Doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Victorian said: It should start now and be a gradual process. There will never be a better time to introduce a reformed tax settlement. Depends what the tax is. There's an argument for lowering VAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, JFK-1 said: A facet that often seems to be neglected. They're not taking 40% of the entire 49K No they take 40% of anything over 43k. Most countries it's people on 6 figure salaries that start hitting 40% tax brackets. The 49k was an example of someone on a fairly average salary hitting high tax brackets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFK-1 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) They should leagalise weed and tax it rather than see all the profits go to dealers. It's turned into a very nice little earner indeed for the US states who have legalised. Colorado made far more from it than they had anticipated. So much so that they apparently didn't know what to do with the surplus. Edited January 17, 2021 by JFK-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: 49 grand is a decent wedge, but ot isn't a very comfortable income if there's only one earner in the household, a couple of kids, and a mortgate with Edinburgh house prices. Exactly the average house price in Edinburgh is now 320k. Trouble is the scottish government tax us all like we live in Castlemilk where 320k would buy you a country estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Exactly the average house price in Edinburgh is now 320k. Trouble is the scottish government tax us all like we live in Castlemilk where 320k would buy you a country estate. Would someone with £49,000 income get a £320,000 mortgage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, Gone said: Wonder if Branson and co might pay a little more tax to the UK 😬 The EU loophole for them might be closed I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Would someone with £49,000 income get a £320,000 mortgage? No you multiply your salary by 4 then add your deposit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: No you multiply your salary by 4 then add your deposit. 👍OK, I thought the banks were going back to their old ways, for a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Brian Dundas said: Just heard of a second person I know catching Covid about a week to ten days after being vaccinated. These are both frontline workers who could have caught it anytime so I think it is more just bad luck, but it just shows we need to be careful for the few weeks until immunity kicks in. Sure I heard that it takes around 2 weeks for it to properly work. Just unlucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lord BJ said: No, isn’t that kind of the point though. 50k isn’t really enough to live in Edinburgh. it’s a long way short of even getting you a ‘average’ house in the city or to be honest and most the surrounding areas. Pretty shite. But I expect its the same all over the planet. High end London must be pretty off limits for 99. 9% of the common people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 With the new self assessment due date on the 31st of January, will they change the eligibility date for the self employed grants. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, Governor Tarkin said: 49 grand is a decent wedge, but ot isn't a very comfortable income if there's only one earner in the household, a couple of kids, and a mortgate with Edinburgh house prices. The reason it's comfortable is that it provides the luxury of having choices and options. If a one income, two child family chooses to mortgage up to the hilt then that's a choice. It's still a level of income that can afford a little bit more tax and then mortgage decisions can be taken on the basis of the take home earnings. Let's also not forget that having and servicing a mortgage is not lost money. It's a form of investment and saving for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connlach Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 You will always comment on these things based on your own personal situation. Someone that earns more than 49k understands there situation better than someone who isnt in that position and vice versa. The same as comments about public sector is badly mismanaged. That is such a generalisation. Unless you have worked in every part of public sector you cant possible know. Parts of the public sector are so badly underfunded it is amazing what they are able to do. But again I have worked in private and public sector and am commenting from my situation. A little knowledge is dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, ri Alban said: 👍OK, I thought the banks were going back to their old ways, for a minute. If anything they are going the other way lots now asking for 20% deposits as opposed to the old 10%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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