frankblack Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Are you proposing that we send NHS staff who are at high risk of having caught the virus in to hospitals where they are surrounded by highly vulnerable patients? After a shorter period of isolation and two clear LFTs or PCRs seems fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Vince Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Clownshoes has just been asked by a reporter where he's been for the last 10 days. He replied by mumbling "in this country." So, not in this country then. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: It’s because of thd isolsation rules . They need binned Correct. Along with a lot of other things now. Need to deconstruct the system/rules they've set up . Will Sturgeon be brave enough / willing to ? Answer seems to be no at the moment . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, frankblack said: After a shorter period of isolation and two clear LFTs or PCRs seems fair enough. Doesn't seem workable. LFTs are only 80-90% accurate and PCRs take far too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Savage Vince said: Clownshoes has just been asked by a reporter where he's been for the last 10 days. He replied by mumbling "in this country." So, not in this country then. 😊 That was funny 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Correct. Along with a lot of other things now. Need to deconstruct the system/rules they've set up . Will Sturgeon be brave enough / willing to ? Answer seems to be no at the moment . The word “ brave “ and Nicola sturgeon are incompatible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: Doesn't seem workable. LFTs are only 80-90% accurate and PCRs take far too long. Chances of two LFTs giving false negatives are slim, and PCRs are only taking too long just now, probably because of people's holidays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, frankblack said: Its time we took these pandemic powers away from the devolved governments and let Westminster deal with all nations equally. Its quite clear our government and the Welsh are at it and not fit for purpose. agree 100% England potentially going to 5 days isolation, yet wee nippy likely to leave it at 10 (apart from NHS staff) . I actually detest our government now and was staunch SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, Savage Vince said: Clownshoes has just been asked by a reporter where he's been for the last 10 days. He replied by mumbling "in this country." So, not in this country then. 😊 Boris should have said that he was on a beach in the Maldives. The seethe would've been hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: agree 100% England potentially going to 5 days isolation, yet wee nippy likely to leave it at 10 (apart from NHS staff) . I actually detest our government now and was staunch SNP. Did Sturgeon get / got given / awarded herself emergency powers until March ? Big test for her if she's willing to relinquish them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Did Sturgeon get / got given / awarded herself emergency powers until March ? Big test for her if she's willing to relinquish them I’m sure I read somewhere they are trying to make them permanent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971fozzy Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Did Sturgeon get / got given / awarded herself emergency powers until March ? Big test for her if she's willing to relinquish them she’s a power mad loon . She should be reducing isolation days and restrictions, but we all know it will be the other way round come 2pm. football will be lucky to have full houses again this season under her dictatorship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: agree 100% England potentially going to 5 days isolation, yet wee nippy likely to leave it at 10 (apart from NHS staff) . I actually detest our government now and was staunch SNP. Sturgeon and her wee kangaroo government are making loads of people cringe to be Scottish. The country is more divided than it's ever been. The quicker Westminster administer a power grab, the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Vince Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Boris should have said that he was on a beach in the Maldives. The seethe would've been hilarious He could say he was on the moon for all it mattered. He's finished. It's only complete fandans 😘 who think his bumbling act is funny now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Denuto Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, frankblack said: Its time we took these pandemic powers away from the devolved governments and let Westminster deal with all nations equally. Its quite clear our government and the Welsh are at it and not fit for purpose. Well that's one way to look at it, I would say let's give more power to the Devolved Governments so they are able to deal with it as they see fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Sturgeon and her wee kangaroo government are making loads of people cringe to be Scottish. The country is more divided than it's ever been. The quicker Westminster administer a power grab, the better Yep moved north of the border about 17 years ago. Scotland seemed like a prosperous, exciting place. Now most of my colleagues nationally and internationally just laugh at it (well mainly laugh at Sturgeon and her cronies, outside those morons Scotland still has plenty of assets ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Did Sturgeon get / got given / awarded herself emergency powers until March ? Big test for her if she's willing to relinquish them Sturgeon is a despot. I have no doubt she will extend her emergency powers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Dennis Denuto said: Well that's one way to look at it, I would say let's give more power to the Devolved Governments so they are able to deal with it as they see fit. On current evidence the devolved governments aren't fit to handle such powers . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: agree 100% England potentially going to 5 days isolation, yet wee nippy likely to leave it at 10 (apart from NHS staff) . I actually detest our government now and was staunch SNP. Was never staunch but actually hate them now . 11 minutes ago, Lord Montpelier said: Did Sturgeon get / got given / awarded herself emergency powers until March ? Big test for her if she's willing to relinquish them She won’t 5 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said: she’s a power mad loon . She should be reducing isolation days and restrictions, but we all know it will be the other way round come 2pm. football will be lucky to have full houses again this season under her dictatorship And yet you will still get her fan club in this supporting her even though she has taken away our football . Stockholm syndrome 4 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Sturgeon and her wee kangaroo government are making loads of people cringe to be Scottish. The country is more divided than it's ever been. The quicker Westminster administer a power grab, the better I really hope that Boris does that . He would easily get any change through Parliament with his majority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Hotel and transport booked for York to see in the bells. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Savage Vince said: He could say he was on the moon for all it mattered. He's finished. It's only complete fandans 😘 who think his bumbling act is funny now. Agree. Same can be said for Sturgeon and Drakeford. (With the exception they howl at the moon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Denuto Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Sturgeon and her wee kangaroo government are making loads of people cringe to be Scottish. The country is more divided than it's ever been. The quicker Westminster administer a power grab, the better Kangaroo = Elected?? Very Recently elected in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just now, Ainsley Harriott said: Hotel and transport booked for York to see in the bells. Happy days Good work. Have fun . Enjoyed my trip south this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 59 minutes ago, frankblack said: I would rather they run the response than Krankie and Drakeford who are trying to score cheap political points in the absence of the scientific data. Yeah because BJ never tries to score cheap political points or lie about world beating track n trace for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said: Yeah because BJ never tries to score cheap political points or lie about world beating track n trace for example. That wasn't a lie as more incompetent administration, and who exactly was that used to score political points against? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Hotel and transport booked for York to see in the bells. Happy days Have you checked that with John Swinney? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59817307 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montpelier Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, frankblack said: Have you checked that with John Swinney? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59817307 Should send the clown a message asking for permission for a laugh see what you get back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Denuto Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 It will be interesting to see what the Hospital numbers are for Scotland if they are going to be produced today. Even the BBC is reporting the true figure in England is 6000 rather than 9500 because of incidental admission rates and the slower rates of patients discharged over the Holidays. I wonder if our Government will mention these mitigating factors or not?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Hotel and transport booked for York to see in the bells. Happy days Have a great time 6 minutes ago, Dennis Denuto said: It will be interesting to see what the Hospital numbers are for Scotland if they are going to be produced today. Even the BBC is reporting the true figure in England is 6000 rather than 9500 because of incidental admission rates and the slower rates of patients discharged over the Holidays. I wonder if our Government will mention these mitigating factors or not?? No they wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just captured this pic of Swinney at the border...Braveheart spirit and awe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Ray Gin said: Possibly about the same. Flu doesn't infect 800k people in a week though. How do you know? Have you done a study on flu cases over the last 20 years? People got flu , went to bed with paracetamol and a hot drink. Now people are screaming for a PCR test and demanding people stay home because they refused a jab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: How do you know? Have you done a study on flu cases over the last 20 years? People got flu , went to bed with paracetamol and a hot drink. Now people are screaming for a PCR test and demanding people stay home because they refused a jab. Good point . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ex member of the SaS Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 hour ago, frankblack said: I've said before that Europe is not comparable. Its clear their testing system is miles behind ours. You think that we can keep on closing businesses for every mild strain of virus? How long before the economy crashes? Where I will concede is on the area of travel - I think that we should be focusing on keeping out the new strains rather than reacting too late. Correct, Had we closed the borders and made people test before allowing them in ( or back in for those away on holiday ) we could have missed most of this. They had three weeks where Italy had it bad to do this and did nothing, also when India had it bad Boris closed our borders to those from Pakistan etc but not India where he wanted to do a trade deal. Stopping dinghy divers is also a priority as they are coming in with no health checks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ex member of the SaS said: How do you know? Have you done a study on flu cases over the last 20 years? People got flu , went to bed with paracetamol and a hot drink. Now people are screaming for a PCR test and demanding people stay home because they refused a jab. You think if that many people had the flu in the week it wouldn't make the news? Really? I think you're confusing the flu with the common cold. Edited December 29, 2021 by Ray Gin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 41 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Hotel and transport booked for York to see in the bells. Happy days Going to England to bring in the New Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 34 minutes ago, frankblack said: Have you checked that with John Swinney? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59817307 If the party won't come to Ainsley then Ainsley will come to the party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just now, The Real Maroonblood said: Going to England to bring in the New Year. Aye have fun sitting in watching only excuse I'm sure it will be riviting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Just now, Ainsley Harriott said: Aye have fun sitting in watching only excuse I'm sure it will be riviting LOL or the cultural " still game" which is probably Sturgeons cultural highlight . IN fact in an Independent Scotland it will be mandatory viewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 37 minutes ago, frankblack said: That wasn't a lie as more incompetent administration, and who exactly was that used to score political points against? It was to score points for the Great British myth that it’s somehow better than anyone else, when all the facts show otherwise. Helps with support for blatant power grabs as the rabid British nationalists on here are advocating for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Aye have fun sitting in watching only excuse I'm sure it will be riviting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Aye have fun sitting in watching only excuse I'm sure it will be riviting I doubt it as it's not on this hogmanay. Last year's edition was the last (not before time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Great reading some of the social media comments about Swinney and his England new year ban. Lots of comments from English people welcoming us down south. Lovely to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ainsley Harriott said: Aye have fun sitting in watching only excuse I'm sure it will be riviting I'm sure you'll be made very welcome. Unlike last year when Sturgeon shut those of us south of the border... Hope you have a good time 👍 life's too short to watch OAE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Burgundy Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Seen lots of stuff today about a crisis actor called Henry Dyne who the BBC have interviewed as he lies on a hospital bed. I don't know if the guy is ill or not but it's covid related so thought I'd post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 The director general of W.H.O. stated it was wrong to give boosters to kids. He slipped up and said it was killing them. Just can't find it again to post a link. ( help anyone? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: You think if that many people had the flu in the week it wouldn't make the news? Really? I think you're confusing the flu with the common cold. You do know that most Flu is asymptomatic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: You think if that many people had the flu in the week it wouldn't make the news? Really? I think you're confusing the flu with the common cold. I think you are confusing Covid with the plague. They told us we would be dying in the thousands. Save the NHS, Three weeks to flatten the curve, the vaccine to get us back to normal and every other sound bite they have used to move the goal posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex member of the SaS Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: Seen lots of stuff today about a crisis actor called Henry Dyne who the BBC have interviewed as he lies on a hospital bed. I don't know if the guy is ill or not but it's covid related so thought I'd post it. Aye he looks like he's a death's door right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: You do know that most Flu is asymptomatic? 1 in 3 = most? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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