Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Common sense trumps the scaremongering psychological war that @scotgov is waging on the population. Sanitise your hands, wear a mask in enclosed spaces, socially distance where possible and adhere to the rules in hospitality settings. That's all you need to follow. Any other restrictions are tyrannical But there are laws in place now about going into other people’s houses and the rule of 6 - these MUST be followed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: But there are laws in place now about going into other people’s houses and the rule of 6 - these MUST be followed Yes, but closing hospitality etc would be madness and economically suicidal for no reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartstastic Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Common sense trumps the scaremongering psychological war that @scotgov is waging on the population. Sanitise your hands, , socially distance where possible, if you feel a cough or sneeze coming cover your mouth and nose like you always used to before and adhere to the rules in hospitality settings. That's all you need to follow. Any other restrictions are tyrannical F.t.f.y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWL Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: Yes, but closing hospitality etc would be madness and economically suicidal for no reason Agreed, but JiH obviously doesn't socialise much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: For a start The mods could remove him if he is openly admitting to breaking the law! I stood 194 cm away from someone this morning. Made me feel deeply ashamed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Avoided the thread for a few days... pop my head back in and Jambo in Hamilton is still trolling the shit out of the message board. Splendid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Keep the pubs open.🍺👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, King prawn said: Avoided the thread for a few days... pop my head back in and Jambo in Hamilton is still trolling the shit out of the message board. Splendid. The ones he's trolling are biting. It would appear they're not very bright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: But there are laws in place now about going into other people’s houses and the rule of 6 - these MUST be followed But they are utterly illogial and the number 6 has been plucked out of thin air. There is no science behind it at all. As for the "not going into each others houses" - well, its utter guff too. My 3 kids are at school all day with their pals, play hockey with them at the weekend, but then cannot give their friend a lift home, or have them back to the house. You can tell Auld Icy Clunge has no kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, doctor jambo said: But they are utterly illogial and the number 6 has been plucked out of thin air. There is no science behind it at all. As for the "not going into each others houses" - well, its utter guff too. My 3 kids are at school all day with their pals, play hockey with them at the weekend, but then cannot give their friend a lift home, or have them back to the house. You can tell Auld Icy Clunge has no kids If you really are a doctor you must set example to your patients too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 57 minutes ago, Back to 2005 said: Presumably much lower flu cases in Asia then? Certainly much lower covid-19 cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: As for the "not going into each others houses" - well, its utter guff too. My 3 kids are at school all day with their pals, play hockey with them at the weekend, but then cannot give their friend a lift home, or have them back to the house. It's not utter guff, it's where the vast, vast majority of cases are being transmitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) https://uk.yahoo.com/style/health-expert-warns-long-covid-160347154.html Edited October 5, 2020 by Ray Gin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Well at least we can go to the cinema without fear. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54387856 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: It's not utter guff, it's where the vast, vast majority of cases are being transmitted. According to a University of Delhi study, you have an 80% chance of catching Covid while sharing public transport on a long journey, only 10% in a household setting and 2.5% while shopping. Hospitality probably represents a miniscule chance too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: NO offence to them, but its a generalisation. Its describing problems suffered by patients ventilated in ICU- no matter the reasons admitted. "occuring in up to 12 %" so that could be anything from 0% to 11.9 % pretty embarassingly vague especially as, well, most patients admitted to hospital with COVID are elderly or have other issues, so not sure what their cariac status was preadmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: According to a University of Delhi study, you have an 80% chance of catching Covid while sharing public transport on a long journey, only 10% in a household setting and 2.5% while shopping. Hospitality probably represents a miniscule chance too. That may be true for Delhi but in the UK, over 80% of the cases were transmitted in people's homes. (this was in a government report I posted several pages back that I can't be arsed trawling back for) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Ron Burgundy said: Out of that 697 I reckon 692 have nothing to worry about. Still it grabs people attention. You’d think with this huge second wave that we are being told about my daughter who works at the Covid hub in the western wouldn’t have had her days cut from 3 to 2 because they aren’t busy enough!! something doesn’t add up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 You can see why public transport would be a hot zone in Delhi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, SteauaNeedarest said: Well at least we can go to the cinema without fear. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54387856 Which one? Cineworld just closed all theirs! Catch-22 situation - film makers are stalling releasing big films until they can guarantee to pack out cinemas. Cinemas aren't going to get any punters until there are films worth watching and they feel safe to go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Ron Burgundy said: Out of that 697 I reckon 692 have nothing to worry about. Still it grabs people attention. Sure but the 692 folk will have likely passed that on to another 700+ people who then pass it on further...that's how exponential growth works. Eventually you end up with hospitals full again. 1 hour ago, And he’s not praying! said: Sounds very much like some sort of circuit breaker is in the post. A big week coming up. Lockdown from Saturday until Sunday 25th. Announced tomorrow. Alledgedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Jason Leitch now tells us that having a circuit breaker may buy us some time, but it isn't an exact science as to how much time. FFS, all we ever hear is 'we are following the science', and now we are told, as most suspected, that they don't have science and it is just a complete and utter panic measure made by bureaucrats who are desperate to protect themselves and their political masters. Meanwhile, Boris wants us all to go to the cinema. ****ing useless, the whole lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King prawn Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Jason Leitch now tells us that having a circuit breaker may buy us some time, but it isn't an exact science as to how much time. FFS, all we ever hear is 'we are following the science', and now we are told, as most suspected, that they don't have science and it is just a complete and utter panic measure made by bureaucrats who are desperate to protect themselves and their political masters. Meanwhile, Boris wants us all to go to the cinema. ****ing useless, the whole lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBJambo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Jason Leitch now tells us that having a circuit breaker may buy us some time, but it isn't an exact science as to how much time. FFS, all we ever hear is 'we are following the science', and now we are told, as most suspected, that they don't have science and it is just a complete and utter panic measure made by bureaucrats who are desperate to protect themselves and their political masters. Meanwhile, Boris wants us all to go to the cinema. ****ing useless, the whole lot of them. Buy us some time for what?! They are just kicking the can down the road. Vaccine is years off and not guarantee. It will still be there when we come out of lockdown. .I will continue living my life lockdown or not as will everyone I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut doug Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, JamesM48 said: I’m very suspicious of this. Considering the infections rates were will lower than the Whitty / Valence “ predictions “ several weeks ago it just Makes me wonder they are at it Is this because they are inventing cases to justify their predictions or are they just jealous that other countries have higher rates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Sure but the 692 folk will have likely passed that on to another 700+ people who then pass it on further...that's how exponential growth works. Eventually you end up with hospitals full again. Lockdown from Saturday until Sunday 25th. Announced tomorrow. Alledgedly. I don’t think they were ever full, covid emergency unit in the secc hasn’t been used once at a cost of over 30 million.... Splendid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: That may be true for Delhi but in the UK, over 80% of the cases were transmitted in people's homes. (this was in a government report I posted several pages back that I can't be arsed trawling back for) The University was in Delhi but it was looking at cases worldwide. They were assessing risk factors, so you have a 10% chance of catching it if you share a home with an infected person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Sure but the 692 folk will have likely passed that on to another 700+ people who then pass it on further...that's how exponential growth works. Eventually you end up with hospitals full again. Lockdown from Saturday until Sunday 25th. Announced tomorrow. Alledgedly. Oh well, another few thousand jobs to be added to the total number that will be lost. Still as long as Jason, Nicola, Boris and the rest of them can carry on trousering cash, don't suppose they are that bothered. Let's sacrifice future of thousands cause of a 0.003 percentage chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, Ray Gin said: It's not utter guff, it's where the vast, vast majority of cases are being transmitted. Having a 12 year old from your school class and hockey team you spend 7 hours a day with, and get the bus home with , round for dinner is not the cause of mass covid transmission. I'd love to see the science behind it......because it seems to me like a ridiculous and draconian measure from a government who simply dont have a feckin clue what they are doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, GBJambo said: Buy us some time for what?! They are just kicking the can down the road. Vaccine is years off and not guarantee. It will still be there when we come out of lockdown. .I will continue living my life lockdown or not as will everyone I know. Yes, nailed it. I hope any attempt to close hospitality would be met by widespread defiance by the industry and a refusal by the UK govt to provide any more funding to Sturgeon. "Stay Open to Save Jobs" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, GBJambo said: Buy us some time for what?! They are just kicking the can down the road. Vaccine is years off and not guarantee. It will still be there when we come out of lockdown. .I will continue living my life lockdown or not as will everyone I know. Buy us time till they can think of another reason to carry on as they are doing. They have no idea what to do, the scientific advisers have no idea what to do, so instead of sheltering those at risk, they simply go for economic suicide. Well apart from the scientific researchers and analysts, who will be raking in the cash. You seriously think they want this to end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOak88 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Lockdown from Saturday until Sunday 25th. Announced tomorrow. Alledgedly. According to who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 43 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: If you really are a doctor you must set example to your patients too Must I? How extraordinarily backward that you have to "live your job" To be fair I have stopped smoking, what more could you want? I am both human and fallible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, coconut doug said: Is this because they are inventing cases to justify their predictions or are they just jealous that other countries have higher rates? They have literally no idea how many cases they actually have. YOu can test +ve some time after you no longer have it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, doctor jambo said: Must I? How extraordinarily backward that you have to "live your job" To be fair I have stopped smoking, what more could you want? I am both human and fallible. Follow J4E as he is example to everyone, or so he would have you believe. Complete troll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Chiefo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Must I? How extraordinarily backward that you have to "live your job" To be fair I have stopped smoking, what more could you want? I am both human and fallible. Fwiw Doc, I always stand by the principle that you only have a drink problem if you consume more than your GP. I am assuming that you are a moderate/social drinker, like myself 👍😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Took the wife out for an anniversary lunch today, why the need to wear a mask to get to your table and then to get from your table to the door when leaving? Mental!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 You can guarantee if these lockdowns were putting these so called scientists jobs in jeopardy and also the members of Parliament jobs at risk they wouldn’t be implementing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshed Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Jason Leitch now tells us that having a circuit breaker may buy us some time, but it isn't an exact science as to how much time. FFS, all we ever hear is 'we are following the science', and now we are told, as most suspected, that they don't have science and it is just a complete and utter panic measure made by bureaucrats who are desperate to protect themselves and their political masters. Meanwhile, Boris wants us all to go to the cinema. ****ing useless, the whole lot of them. I seen that last night and he said it might buy us 28 days but he’s not sure. So in 28 days do we have another lockdown? Utterly clueless the lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Enzo Chiefo said: Fwiw Doc, I always stand by the principle that you only have a drink problem if you consume more than your GP. I am assuming that you are a moderate/social drinker, like myself 👍😂 who knows how shaky I would be if I stopped constantly applying hand gel....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, graygo said: Took the wife out for an anniversary lunch today, why the need to wear a mask to get to your table and then to get from your table to the door when leaving? Mental!! What part are you struggling with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Enzo Chiefo said: The University was in Delhi but it was looking at cases worldwide. They were assessing risk factors, so you have a 10% chance of catching it if you share a home with an infected person. Don't question the experts...unless the experts disagree with the ones the UK are following...in which case, question them. 🤷🏻♂️ Edited October 5, 2020 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, 1874robbo said: You can guarantee if these lockdowns were putting these so called scientists jobs in jeopardy and also the members of Parliament jobs at risk they wouldn’t be implementing them. Quite, she feckin locks me down again and I'll be dropping my 3 kids are her house and see how she likes it- especially the 16 year old........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 IF there is a “circuit breaker” do we really believe it will only last 2 weeks?? It would take weeks for it to show in the figures and I can’t see sturgeon saying after 2 weeks of continuing growth that we can reduce restrictions. The 2 week thing is a ruse, we’d be under heavy restrictions for months most likely with the total decimation of the economy an obvious outcome. Completely crazy approach from Scot gov if it is in fact true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Adam_the_legend said: IF there is a “circuit breaker” do we really believe it will only last 2 weeks?? It would take weeks for it to show in the figures and I can’t see sturgeon saying after 2 weeks of continuing growth that we can reduce restrictions. The 2 week thing is a ruse, we’d be under heavy restrictions for months most likely with the total decimation of the economy an obvious outcome. Completely crazy approach from Scot gov if it is in fact true. It will last over the duration of the school holidays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: What part are you struggling with? Taking his wife out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: What part are you struggling with? Struggling? I never said I was struggling. However, the fact that nobody was between our table and the door and we are told that to be at risk you need to be within 2m for 15 minutes makes this requirement seem ridiculous. Another case of the government not trusting the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, doctor jambo said: Quite, she feckin locks me down again and I'll be dropping my 3 kids are her house and see how she likes it- especially the 16 year old........ You should see a doctor about your blood pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, graygo said: Struggling? I never said I was struggling. However, the fact that nobody was between our table and the door and we are told that to be at risk you need to be within 2m for 15 minutes makes this requirement seem ridiculous. Another case of the government not trusting the public. As j4E would say not good worrying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Taking his wife out. Cheap date as the restaurant are still doing the 50% discount. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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