Tommy Brown Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: 4 months mate, I said it, what seems ages ago now. June/July at best, August if the clowns keep on ignoring things. We are on lockdown lite, too. I just fear for the Joe average punter in UK. Can't work from home, kids not at school, cooked up in an upstairs flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Spellczech said: She's more concerned about bringing it home to me TBH as 75% of ICU cases are male, so if I suddenly disappear from here you'll know why! For my part I give her a shot of 70% absinthe as a welcome home gift and I give her the clap every Thursday! Strange how useless and pointless my career choice feels these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, Seymour M Hersh said: Yeah it was intentional. Trying to keep a little levity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: We are on lockdown lite, too. I just fear for the Joe average punter in UK. Can't work from home, kids not at school, cooked up in an upstairs flat. Not a good mixture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) Watching the BBC news tonight I wondered what was "essential" about at least twenty cameramen and news reporters gathering outside St Thomas's hospital in some sort of macabre vigil for the PM. Or indeed the presence of reporters in Downing Street shouting, pointlessly as usual, questions at anyone entering or leaving No.10. Edited April 6, 2020 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 48 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: We are on lockdown lite, too. I just fear for the Joe average punter in UK. Can't work from home, kids not at school, cooked up in an upstairs flat. Aye I'm finding it easy but then I only have a 3yr old and we have a good sized back garden for him to play about in but I can def see it being a lot worse for folk in flats with multiple kids of varying ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: My wife was telling me that the other day she had a patient who had a bit of a cough and a slight temperature, all she had was a bog standard disposable face mask, she's taking stats etc, he's coughing away, she's trying to turn away from his coughing. Next day she goes in to work and learns that the guy deteriorated during the night and was taken away to one of the covid wards. No wonder staff are dropping like flies, they have little to no protection and suspected covid patients are scattered all over the hospital on normal wards, nobody is getting tested until they get transfered to a covid ward, it's a fecking total shambles. She needs a full face shield, disposable surgical mask gloves and apron as a minimum. Also a good idea if the patient will tolerate it to get them to wear a surgical mask too. It really is a shambles and viral load plays a huge part in my opinion on how bad you will get it if you do get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 New York state talking about the contingency of temporary mass graves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 The lack of PPE really is an absolute disgrace, all medical staff, carers, pharmacists, bus and train drivers who are still working need ASAP.. it is clear as day that masks will be required en masse across the population to allow the lockdown to be lifted, the government still playing the “its not that effective” card to avoid the public making the lack of equipment more acute - of course it’s effective- we have just absolutely ****ed up .. I’d like to know what we are doing to make/buy more.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: She needs a full face shield, disposable surgical mask gloves and apron as a minimum. Also a good idea if the patient will tolerate it to get them to wear a surgical mask too. It really is a shambles and viral load plays a huge part in my opinion on how bad you will get it if you do get it. My wife's friend is a nurse at St Johns and she has said since before the lockdowns came in that viral load is the biggest problem and we have been social distancing since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Francis Albert Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) One of the unexpected pleasures of lock down has been a diversification of my newspaper reading habits after nearly 50 years of slavish loyalty to the Guardian. I now have to settle for whatever limited choice is left in the corner newsagents by the time I am up and about. And so for example I have read the Daily Telegraph for the first time in my life and have been surprised by both its depth of news coverage and diversity of opinions compared to my usual read. It has been at least as fiercely critical of the Government's real shortcomings in testing and provision of PPE for example than my usual choice of paper, and with more force than the relentlessly one sided Guardian. It also contains far more challenges to the establishment generally, An example today is a scathing cartoon on people with gardens condemning those without outside space at home who use a park to do what they do in their gardens. And an op-ed article commenting on lock down and the risk of it being undermined by over-zealous enforcement struck a chord with me. An extract: " "the disgraced official [Calderwood] deserves her five minutes of shame - but did it really necessitate a formal warning by the police? Is it really necessary to move on old ladies who sit down for a breather on a bench, or to threaten to arrest drivers, or to dye a blue lagoon black to stop people taking photographs of it. Where did all these coppers even come from? I've never seen so many in my life. I suppose that with the public now locked indoors, the police finally feel safe enough to walk the streets". Unfair perhaps bit it makes a point, reinforcing the image of policemen unnecessarily moving people sunbathing in parks or empty beaches, despite them fully self-isolating by 30 or 40 yards from anyone.else. Exercise is allowed because it is essential for mental and physical health so the hordes of joggers who pound past me , panting and breathing heavily next to me on my short daily walk are OK. As are cyclists who despite empty roads almost run into me on the pavements. But sunbathing, despite it being at least as essential for physical and mental health is condemned because I assume it offends some puritanical view that it is simply pleasurable and so not essential. Edited April 6, 2020 by Francis Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robroy1874 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Best wishes to the PM for a speedy recovery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 **** sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 ****ing hell. Wish him well 🙁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Hang in there Boris 🙏🏿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Fecks sake. 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micole Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 No love for the man or his politics but really hope he pulls through, this transcends everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Intensive care, not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 FFS! come on Boris! Never thought I’d say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: The lack of PPE really is an absolute disgrace, all medical staff, carers, pharmacists, bus and train drivers who are still working need ASAP.. it is clear as day that masks will be required en masse across the population to allow the lockdown to be lifted, the government still playing the “its not that effective” card to avoid the public making the lack of equipment more acute - of course it’s effective- we have just absolutely ****ed up .. I’d like to know what we are doing to make/buy more.. Journalists ask that every day. Questions are just swept away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Get well soon Boris. I'm sure you have the support of everyone behind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 All the best PM stick in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Come on Boris ol' chap, you can do it. 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I'm sure it's just a precaution. Routine stuff, nothing to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 They've said Boris has still been in charge. But Raab said he hadn't spoken to him since Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Boris is an utter **** of a man. I despise him, his party and all he/they stand for however; I wouldnt like to see him suffer from this virus & wish him a speedy recovery so I can go back to slinging shit in his direction (once he has fully recovered). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Not heard from his Dad recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Pans Jambo said: Boris is an utter **** of a man. I despise him, his party and all he/they stand for however; I wouldnt like to see him suffer from this virus & wish him a speedy recovery so I can go back to slinging shit in his direction (once he has fully recovered). Makes decisions on a party basis that leads to millions in poverty and others to their death bed. That's all I'll say on this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoolfordsHearts Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Get well soon Prime Minister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: Not heard from his Dad recently. Locked in a Wetherspoons toilet somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Roller Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/health/coronavirus/death-rate-those-admitted-intensive-care-coronavirus-more-50-latest-figures-2529434%3famp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Forget politics just lets hope Boris survives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Jeezo, keep fighting Boris. Pretty sure that moving anyone into ICU isn't routine, especially at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, hughesie27 said: Makes decisions on a party basis that leads to millions in poverty and others to their death bed. That's all I'll say on this matter. You should have just said feck all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Amazingly I think I just heard that they have moved him into ICU as a precaution. Just like it was a precaution last night then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic roundabout Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Terrible news... Keep fighting Boris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, hughesie27 said: Amazingly I think I just heard that they have moved him into ICU as a precaution. Just like it was a precaution last night then. Trying to avoid widespread panic I guess... pretty obvious things aren't ok though 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF11JamTart Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, Francis Albert said: One of the unexpected pleasures of lock down has been a diversification of my newspaper reading habits after nearly 50 years of slavish loyalty to the Guardian. I now have to settle for whatever limited choice is left in the corner newsagents by the time I am up and about. And so for example I have read the Daily Telegraph for the first time in my life and have been surprised by both its depth of news coverage and diversity of opinions compared to my usual read. It has been at least as fiercely critical of the Government's real shortcomings in testing and provision of PPE for example than my usual choice of paper, and with more force than the relentlessly one sided Guardian. It also contains far more challenges to the establishment generally, An example today is a scathing cartoon on people with gardens condemning those without outside space at home who use a park to do what they do in their gardens. And an op-ed article commenting on lock down and the risk of it being undermined by over-zealous enforcement struck a chord with me. An extract: " "the disgraced official [Calderwood] deserves her five minutes of shame - but did it really necessitate a formal warning by the police? Is it really necessary to move on old ladies who sit down for a breather on a bench, or to threaten to arrest drivers, or to dye a blue lagoon black to stop people taking photographs of it. Where did all these coppers even come from? I've never seen so many in my life. I suppose that with the public now locked indoors, the police finally feel safe enough to walk the streets". Unfair perhaps bit it makes a point, reinforcing the image of policemen unnecessarily moving people sunbathing in parks or empty beaches, despite them fully self-isolating by 30 or 40 yards from anyone.else. Exercise is allowed because it is essential for mental and physical health so the hordes of joggers who pound past me , panting and breathing heavily next to me on my short daily walk are OK. As are cyclists who despite empty roads almost run into me on the pavements. But sunbathing, despite it being at least as essential for physical and mental health is condemned because I assume it offends some puritanical view that it is simply pleasurable and so not essential. I agree about the Daily Telegraph. It more balanced than I expected. Regarding Police etc... My wife, our year old daughter and i got "moved on" by the police yesterday (well, PCSO). We don't have a garden. So we went to the park across the road with a football. Passing the ball round in a small triangle. Miles from anyone. BUT... playing with a ball isn't exercise... it's leisure/ recreation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Always like Boris, hope this is just a precaution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Nick Eardley on radio saying he's not on a ventilator yet but definitely in ICU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Mauricio Pinilla said: I'm sure it's just a precaution. Routine stuff, nothing to worry about. As he's our PM he does need to get a significant degree of preferential treatment, so lets hope so, but they have been playing this down all along. Edited April 6, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 He might not be serious but it does raise again the point it's not just people over 80 at risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SwindonJambo said: Nick Eardley on radio saying he's not on a ventilator yet but definitely in ICU. Better news. Edited April 6, 2020 by DETTY29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, DETTY29 said: Good news. Best wishes are coming in from his fiercest opponents as well as his own side. Good to see that Most people are fundamentally decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, SwindonJambo said: Best wishes are coming in from his fiercest opponents as well as his own side. Good to see that Most people are fundamentally decent. If you avoid social media then you're right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, CF11JamTart said: I agree about the Daily Telegraph. It more balanced than I expected. Regarding Police etc... My wife, our year old daughter and i got "moved on" by the police yesterday (well, PCSO). We don't have a garden. So we went to the park across the road with a football. Passing the ball round in a small triangle. Miles from anyone. BUT... playing with a ball isn't exercise... it's leisure/ recreation. That is quite frankly ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETTY29 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, SwindonJambo said: Best wishes are coming in from his fiercest opponents as well as his own side. Good to see that Most people are fundamentally decent. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internet Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, SwindonJambo said: Best wishes are coming in from his fiercest opponents as well as his own side. Good to see that Most people are fundamentally decent. It's like when a rival player gets a bad injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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