Daniel Stendel

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

Just now, Nunya Business said:

So he failed at his job and was sacked? Some reward, that. 

Only 2 year too late though !! 2 6th place finishes and sitting 2nd bottom of the league before our owner finally took action 

[Ethan Hunt]

9 hours ago, Arthur Morgan said:

Thankfully I haven't made an arse out of myself, I just had a feeling Davie was right and obviously knew StevenNaismith was slavering a load of pish, very sad and you now have no credibility at all. 

None of this has been proven so technically speaking you have made an arse of yourself.

[Brave Hearts]

7 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

Maybe Stendel googled us and saw some Hearts fans mounted a campaign to get rid of the manager when we were 3rd in the league, painted graffiti about hanging the person who saved the club just a few years ago and defaced the club crest that was a centrepiece of a brand new stand? 

 

As fans we can help sell the club to potential candidates. Like the videos and articles about Barnsley fans and Stendel. Shame the above is what someone who Googles us will find out. Be nice if all the articles were about FoH and stuff like that instead.

 

Very interesting perspective.

 

Yup he would do his research and due diligence.

 

He seems like he is a person that wants to engage and interact with the fans then any negative stuff like the fans behaviour you have listed could deter him.

 

Not only him, maybe other potential candidates as well.

 

So if we don’t or can’t get the manager we all want or desire, maybe the erseholes that conducted this type of activity should look at themselves in the mirror and wonder if their short term actions are helpful in the end.

 

 

[Beast Boy]

19 minutes ago, Nunya Business said:

I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but we’re going through a period where Celtic are hoovering up every trophy going and have done for three years. Our manager was failing to get us up the table, any idea how we “rewarded” that?

 

I understand that we all want to move forward, but bashing the club in this manner is strange, to say the least. 

 

Especially the “loser” and “no medals” chat. Horrific stuff for Hearts supporters.

[kingantti1874]

1 minute ago, Brave Hearts said:

 

Very interesting perspective.

 

Yup he would do his research and due diligence.

 

He seems like he is a person that wants to engage and interact with the fans then any negative stuff like the fans behaviour you have listed could deter him.

 

Not only him, maybe other potential candidates as well.

 

So if we don’t or can’t get the manager we all want or desire, maybe the erseholes that conducted this type of activity should look at themselves in the mirror and wonder if their short term actions are helpful in the end.

 

 

actually our form was so bad for so long that blame lies with the club. 

[Beast Boy]

15 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Not bashing the club at all just being factual , we were 2 seasons ahead of the hobos when we came up and were moving onwards and upwards then made absolute pigs ear of it appointing cathro and then another pigs ear of it appointing levein ! The facts back that up ,

we were two seasons ahead of Hibs and sitting in second place. Unfortunately that wasn’t good enough for some supporters. Something about style and bottle, I think.

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

4 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said:

 

Especially the “loser” and “no medals” chat. Horrific stuff for Hearts supporters.

It's a fact 

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

1 minute ago, Icon of Symmetry said:

we were two seasons ahead of Hibs and sitting in second place. Unfortunately that wasn’t good enough for some supporters. Something about style and bottle, I think.

Yeah you're right about that but the major problem was leveins choice of replacement and then him replacing that replacement 

[Beast Boy]

4 minutes ago, Brave Hearts said:

 

Very interesting perspective.

 

Yup he would do his research and due diligence.

 

He seems like he is a person that wants to engage and interact with the fans then any negative stuff like the fans behaviour you have listed could deter him.

 

Not only him, maybe other potential candidates as well.

 

So if we don’t or can’t get the manager we all want or desire, maybe the erseholes that conducted this type of activity should look at themselves in the mirror and wonder if their short term actions are helpful in the end.

 

 

The article about the worst reactions from our supporters to Craig Levein won’t have made for very encouraging reading. If that’s the way we spoke about and reacted towards a Hearts legend, then how would he be treated if it didn’t start too well? It’s a perfectly valid point that TJ makes.

[Mr Elwood P]

1 hour ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Fact of the matter is Craig levein has won nothing in his career absolutely nothing ! He talks a good game but his results don't back up his talk , Mrs Budge said 2 seasons in a row the target was minimum top 4 and European football yet both seasons finished 6th playing dreadful football and the reward for that was more funds for transfers and a wage rise while Mrs Budge tells us her blue eyed boy levein doing a good job 

Anyone with a bit of brainpower will realise that, most people who work in football will win nothing major, throughout their careers.

 

High profile example: Harry Kane ...

[Bazzas right boot]

Folk moaning about the process and time frame. 

Shit the f up. 

 

I'd rather we tried for a Stendel or Warnock than just settled straight away for someone like Jack Ross or e en Robinson. 

 

We are obviously trying to punch. 

I like that, unfortunately the reality of scottish footballs pull outside the OF is an eye opener. 

 

Unsure who my favourite is now. 

McCall has the better cv than most on this list but is hardly exciting or inspiring. 

 

 

[Beast Boy]

3 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

It's a fact 

Classy way to talk about a guy who was heartbroken along with a good few other Hearts legends and the entire support thirty years ago. Bash on though, whatever floats your boat.

[Sidelight]

1 hour ago, Davie Deans said:

No.

Are you the Mysterious Babushka Lady present at JFK’s Assassination?

[Tommy Brown]

3 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said:

we were two seasons ahead of Hibs and sitting in second place. Unfortunately that wasn’t good enough for some supporters. Something about style and bottle, I think.

it's tired chat.

RN had done way better than initial expectations.

He left (maybe he felt unappreciated) to enhance his career.

he failed, which was proving the doubters correct (myself included).

 

Appointing Cathro and then CL have  been massive missed opportunities.

It's looking similar again.

 

Mothy, we have a decent pool of players and good infrastructure, all we ask is for a good Head Coach.

 

 

Head Coach

[Ethan Hunt]

7 hours ago, ToqueJambo said:

Maybe Stendel googled us and saw some Hearts fans mounted a campaign to get rid of the manager when we were 3rd in the league, painted graffiti about hanging the person who saved the club just a few years ago and defaced the club crest that was a centrepiece of a brand new stand? 

 

As fans we can help sell the club to potential candidates. Like the videos and articles about Barnsley fans and Stendel. Shame the above is what someone who Googles us will find out. Be nice if all the articles were about FoH and stuff like that instead.

You may be on to something here.

 

Maybe the dozens of other candidates should have had the brains to do google us to.  Maybe they would never have applied for the job in the first place if they had. Maybe it’s better to be unemployed than work for a club where some teenagers paint graffiti. Maybe we should all hack google and delete the bad articles about the club and replace them with cute photos of puppies wearing Hearts tops. 

 

Or, maybe Stendel didn’t even apply for the job. Or maybe he did and will get it.  Maybe it’s worth waiting to find out how it all pans out before over dramatising.

Edited November 22, 2019 by Ethan Hunt

[Jodami]

11 minutes ago, Brave Hearts said:

 

Very interesting perspective.

 

Yup he would do his research and due diligence.

 

He seems like he is a person that wants to engage and interact with the fans then any negative stuff like the fans behaviour you have listed could deter him.

 

Not only him, maybe other potential candidates as well.

 

So if we don’t or can’t get the manager we all want or desire, maybe the erseholes that conducted this type of activity should look at themselves in the mirror and wonder if their short term actions are helpful in the end.

 

 

So let's see how would I judge the fan base at my potential new club. Would I 1, consider the very public fact that they saved their club from extinction or 2, trawl through a message board and focus on people being critical? That's a difficult one... 

 

This idea that it is the fans fault for absolutely everything is unquestionably the most embarrassing self hating slavering pish posted here. 

 

Here's a slightly alternative view. Perhaps he has came on here, trawled through the last few months threads and thought Jesus, imagine letting things slide for almost a whole year before getting rid of that failure. No wonder these fans are so unhappy, this is the perfect time to take over...

 

[Beast Boy]

2 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

You may be on to something here.

 

Maybe the dozens of other candidates should have had the brains to do google us to.  Maybe they would never have applied for the job in the first place if they had. Maybe it’s better to be unemployed than work for a club where some teenagers paint graffiti. Maybe we should all hack google and delete the bad articles about the club and replace them with cute photos of puppies wearing Hearts tops. 

Alternatively, maybe we shouldn’t treat our own players and managers like the enemy and generally behave like scum towards them online and through the medium of spray paint? 🤔

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

10 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said:

Classy way to talk about a guy who was heartbroken along with a good few other Hearts legends and the entire support thirty years ago. Bash on though, whatever floats your boat.

Nobody's talking about 30 years ago ! The present day he been a total failure ! Craig levein thinks of Craig levein as was proved when he walked out on eve of a European game

Edited November 22, 2019 by Selkirkhmfc1874

[Prof]

Stendel tells friend he likes England. Sun writes story that he definitely won’t move to Scotland.  The fact he applied for the job is irrelevant.

[Davie Deans]

28 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

It’s almost as if The Sun article was written around the bits of information you posted.

 

Wouldn’t it be crazy if some second rate journalist sits on fans forums and just makes articles based on what is being posted. Surely not though, surely a decent journalist would have sources,  sources that could provide even one more bit of information than you could have garnered from this thread. Alas, not in this case.

 

Credit where credits due though. You have effectively managed to get your posts published in The Sun, because their article has no more information than what’s contained on here.

 

You don’t happen to be a second rate journalist do you?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Ethan Hunt]

Just now, Icon of Symmetry said:

Alternatively, maybe we shouldn’t treat our own players and managers like the enemy and generally behave like scum towards them online and through the medium of spray paint? 🤔

When you say “we” you mean a handful of people.

 

I’d suggest you visit other teams forums, particularly those teams that aren’t performing well. You might be surprised to learn that being pissed off is not exclusive to Hearts fans (not that I am condoning OTT behaviour).

[Beast Boy]

2 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Nobody's talking about 30 years ago ! The present day he been a total failure 

Oh, so when you call him a loser and cite his lack of medals, you are referring to just his last few seasons?

[ford donald]

3 minutes ago, Prof said:

Stendel tells friend he likes England. Sun writes story that he definitely won’t move to Scotland.  The fact he applied for the job is irrelevant.

 

If that is the case,move on.

[JI TEES]

25 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

The saga seems like Brexit. 

Yip long drawn out process that's going to end in tears! 

[Ethan Hunt]

1 minute ago, ford donald said:

 

If that is the case,move on.

Are you fully awake yet?

[Beast Boy]

1 minute ago, Ethan Hunt said:

When you say “we” you mean a handful of people.

 

I’d suggest you visit other teams forums, particularly those teams that aren’t performing well. You might be surprised to learn that being pissed off is not exclusive to Hearts fans (not that I am condoning OTT behaviour).

Had a look on Hibs’ forum and they were far less scummy towards a man who had no long running association or affection towards their club whilst struggling badly. Never saw any porn or terrorist beheading photos photoshopped either. There may have been slogans spray painted calling for Dempster to be hanged right enough, but they can’t have made it in to the public arena yet.

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

2 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said:

Oh, so when you call him a loser and cite his lack of medals, you are referring to just his last few seasons?

Craig levein was the finest centre half I've ever seen playing for hearts ! In his first time as manager he was great but since the day robbie left he's got it badly wrong in my opinion 

[DH1986]

2 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

We've become a football club who accepts failure and actually rewards it ! Losers mentality and it's all about the taking part mentality 

Just two things.......

 

1)  If we accept failure so readily why have we sacked 2 managers in 3 years for not being good enough ?
 

2) Who has been rewarded for being a failure ?

Edited November 22, 2019 by DH1986

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

Just now, DH1986 said:

Just two things.......

 

1)  If we accept failure so readily why have we sacked 2 managers in 3 years for not beung good enough ?
 

2) Who has been rewarded for being a failure ?

Read previous answers to same questions 

[Beast Boy]

Just now, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Craig levein was the finest centre half I've ever seen playing for hearts ! In his first time as manager he was great but since the day robbie left he's got it badly wrong in my opinion 

So why would you feel comfortable slagging him about not winning medals and being a loser then? Weird way to treat a guy you claim to have revered... I mean moan about how our form went yes, want him removed yes, but ripping in to him about something that has probably tortured him for a long time? Can’t see why any Hearts supporter would want to do that.

[DH1986]

2 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Read previous answers to same questions 

Those were serious answers ?

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

1 minute ago, DH1986 said:

Those were serious answers ?

Well if you don't think we've rewarded failure we going to have to agree to disagree because we got totally opposite opinions 

[Ethan Hunt]

Just now, Icon of Symmetry said:

Had a look on Hib

 

s’ forum and they were far less scummy towards a man who had no long running association or affection towards their club whilst struggling badly. Never saw any porn or terrorist beheading photos photoshopped either. There may have been slogans spray painted calling for Dempster to be hanged right enough, but they can’t have made it in to the public arena yet.

Define “scummy”.

 

Who on here posted photoshopped porn or terrorist beheading pictures? Or spray painted slogans about people being hanged? (Can you spray paint on the internet?).

 

Personally I’m gobsmacked that JKB’s mods allowed any of that to happen.

 

 

[Jodami]

9 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said:

Had a look on Hibs’ forum and they were far less scummy towards a man who had no long running association or affection towards their club whilst struggling badly. Never saw any porn or terrorist beheading photos photoshopped either. There may have been slogans spray painted calling for Dempster to be hanged right enough, but they can’t have made it in to the public arena yet.

Mothy, comparing us to a club whose fans' representative felt compelled to resign because she was being subjected to in her own words relentless abuse doesn't really stand up. 

Edited November 22, 2019 by Jodami

[Ethan Hunt]

8 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Craig levein was the finest centre half I've ever seen playing for hearts ! In his first time as manager he was great but since the day robbie left he's got it badly wrong in my opinion 

Sandy Jardine was better.

[Beast Boy]

19 minutes ago, Jodami said:

Here's a slightly alternative view. Perhaps he has came on here, trawled through the last few months threads and thought Jesus, imagine letting things slide for almost a whole year before getting rid of that failure. No wonder these fans are so unhappy, this is the perfect time to take over...

A popular manager with the fans who was sacked after a successful season followed by a run of ten games without a win would be put off a job because he felt a prospective club gives their managers too long? 
 

Its an interesting take Jodami, but I don’t find it as plausible as ToqueJambo’s suggestion. 😄

 

[FWJ]

In my (modest) experience Germans are about the worst in saying “England” when they mean “Britain”.

Just saying....

[Ethan Hunt]

1 minute ago, Jodami said:

Mothy, comparing us to a club who's fans' representative felt compelled to resign because she was being subjected to in her own words relentless abuse doesn't really stand up. 

Did that same clubs CEO not move into a travellodge to escape abuse from the clubs fans?

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

2 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

Sandy Jardine was better.

Not in my opinion ! Levein was class and had it all , great in the air , brilliant on the ball , could spot a pass , brilliant reader of the game and probably his biggest attribute was he was lightning quick 

[Beast Boy]

3 minutes ago, Jodami said:

Mothy, comparing us to a club whose fans' representative felt compelled to resign because she was being subjected to in her own words relentless abuse doesn't really stand up. 

I was answering a question. They certainly aren’t my favourite people on the planet, but they didn’t treat their own as shabbily as some of our fellow supporters did. Sad but true. I find it part sad and part humorous how some folk are so completely unwilling to recognise arseholery from the fans, yet are comfortable with the way we treat our players, managers and owners.  

[Seymour M Hersh]

9 hours ago, Zlatanable said:

I can't see how Hearts could afford Stendal.

He seems above our money.

 

If true what a shameful indictment on the state of Scottish football that a league one side can pay more than the 3rd biggest team in Scotland can. 

[DH1986]

1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Well if you don't think we've rewarded failure we going to have to agree to disagree because we got totally opposite opinions 

We really haven’t rewarded failure.......if we did then Cathro or Levein would still be in the dugout.

 

So your opinion is worthless tbh. It’s just another screwed up illogical view of someone who can only see black and white when there is a ton of grey in-between,

 

 

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

Just now, DH1986 said:

We really haven’t rewarded failure.......if we did then Cathro or Levein would still be in the dugout.

 

So your opinion is worthless tbh. It’s just another screwed up illogical view of someone who can only see black and white when there is a ton of grey in-between,

 

 

You're having a laugh! Leveins reward for failure was a pay rise .

[londonjambo]

Stendel: I really want £300,000 a year but Hearts are only offering £250,000

 

Stendel's Agent: Hold my beer .... Hello, yes, is that the Sun ? Daniel's keen on Hearts but he's got an offer to stay in England and he's quite keen on that .... 

 

 

[Beast Boy]

2 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

 

If true what a shameful indictment on the state of Scottish football that a league one side can pay more than the 3rd biggest team in Scotland can. 

 

[DH1986]

Just now, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

You're having a laugh! Leveins reward for failure was a pay rise .

Please please expand.......

[Selkirkhmfc1874]

Just now, DH1986 said:

Please please expand.......

Don't need to expand! Have a look at accounts which out 

[Hampden Demolition]

Just catching up on this thread. So because an article has appeared in the Sun, Stendal is no longer in the running? 🤔 Wouldn’t even believe the date on the front page, never mind anything inside it.

[Beast Boy]

Just now, Barack said:

Barnsley's owner makes Budge look like a street urchin.

 

All about the Benjamin's. Sure Stendel took one look at Barnsley, found out he could commute from the Lancashire countryside easily enough, and took the obscene money he'd be getting to work there.

 

People from Barnsley don't think it's an attractive proposition either.

 

 

Horrible place. Before anyone asks, yes. Yes I have been been to Barnsley. He’s right though, it is a very sad state of affairs that we are a less attractive proposition than League 1 clubs down there. Blame for that lies with the Blazers though.

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said:

 

Boke.