Adam_the_legend Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, mitch41 said: And the question I asked yesterday was answered this morning. Donald Park, a club Lawyer & Ann Budge are doing the interviews. Absolutely Tragic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought Police Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, Adam_the_legend said: Absolutely Tragic Who did you think it would be? There’s no sporting director Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
better_call_saul Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, mitch41 said: And the question I asked yesterday was answered this morning. Donald Park, a club Lawyer & Ann Budge are doing the interviews. Go away. Your patter is getting boring now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle rock Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Leveins Battalion said: Gary Holt No it’s Martingale that’s the brains behind Livingston not holt or Hopkins it’s why Miller quit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said: Absolutely Tragic Why? What’s wrong with Donald Park? Glad he’s at the club right now tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amadjambo Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said: Absolutely Tragic Why is it tragic? Donald Park is a vastly experienced coach, and Ann Budge is the owner. Seems a perfectly reasonable interview panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, Icon of Symmetry said: Why? What’s wrong with Donald Park? Glad he’s at the club right now tbh. He could be a candidate for Sporting Director Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, Mikey1874 said: He could be a candidate for Sporting Director As long as he stays in some capacity or other. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Thought Police said: Who did you think it would be? There’s no sporting director Not a random club lawyer that’s for damn sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboscanbevicius Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jodami said: Weighing up where we are today, if the 4 or now 3 candidates not in a job are the only people we are looking at who are currently unemployed then that seems to discount Warnock, Hughes, Stendel and Keane from the process. Looking at potential candidates who are in a job that would seem to be Robinson, Robbo , Freedman and Terry (which I find highly unlikely on wages and budget available for players). So I think realistically Robinson, Robbo and Freedman. Of those three I am inclined to think Robinson would put the strongest case of knowing the league, working with the budget and being on an upward curve in his career. That makes me think we are talking about a realistic shortlist of MacPhee, Cotterill and Robinson. Working on the premise that I think MacPhee will definitely be kept as he is close to Budge I think he will end up as the SD. So that leaves Robinson and Cotterill. Based on what both bring to the table the more tangible evidence of having Motherwell punching above their weight in the league would make Robinson seem the least risky proposition (and this seems to be a key consideration as they are taking their time) and I can see him being appointed as manager. So, in summary MacPhee as SD and Robinson as manager is how I can see this panning out. Totally agree. Kind of hope we’re wrong and there is an amazing left field option, but I don’t see it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, Adam_the_legend said: Not a random club lawyer that’s for damn sure. Which club lawyer is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, LarrysRightFoot said: I wonder who the other employed managers (and coaches) may be. Paul Hartley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, amadjambo said: Why is it tragic? Donald Park is a vastly experienced coach, and Ann Budge is the owner. Seems a perfectly reasonable interview panel. DP knows the score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said: Not a random club lawyer that’s for damn sure. You didn’t think a lawyer would be involved in a discussion about an employment contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASIL_HEARTS Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Neilson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Realistic current employed managers: Robinson Holt Neilson Robbo Hartley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthomas Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr Elwood P said: You didn’t think a lawyer would be involved in a discussion about an employment contract? First 3 words is sufficient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamTarts51 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 35 minutes ago, stirlingshirejambo said: Lampard had no money to spend at all which is why he is going with many younger players.... and doing a fine job Doing an excellent job, also saying he's earning £7m annually and is a club legend. I relate to his first season at Derby where they reckon he spent over £12m. My post relates to John Terry maybe seeing Hearts as to much of a risk for his career, lower budget and lower pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, Hampden Demolition said: Who are the 3 that have been/are being interviewed today? Ivan Golac,stevie Paterson and jim lieshman . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, heartsfc_fan said: Realistic current employed managers: Robinson Holt Neilson Robbo Hartley Seems likely. Anybody else over achieving in Scottish Championship or League 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 The two chaps at Ross County maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, johnthomas said: First 3 words is sufficient A recurring theme ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Seems likely. Anybody else over achieving in Scottish Championship or League 1? Dick Campbell at Arbroath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, heartsfc_fan said: Dick Campbell at Arbroath Aye that would be...actually, anybody else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, LeylandJambo said: It's all went a bit quiet on the Warnock storyline. 😬 Sure I read somewhere straight on holiday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: You didn’t think a lawyer would be involved in a discussion about an employment contract? I’m in recruitment, never seen a lawyer involved in hiring processes apart from in the legal sector. Drawing up an employment contract is a very separate part of the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB21 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Embarrassing if we appoint Robbo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartley10 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Can't believe Budgey has been able to seek the opinions of this footballing expert. The guy must have some insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_the_legend Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, johnthomas said: First 3 words is sufficient 6 minutes ago, Mr Elwood P said: A recurring theme ... Can we try try and keep things civil, snidey comments don’t add anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said: Absolutely Tragic Given she has said the SD will be in on the choice, I think they are sifting out the pish whilst practicing their interview technique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damo Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 31 minutes ago, Jodami said: Weighing up where we are today, if the 4 or now 3 candidates not in a job are the only people we are looking at who are currently unemployed then that seems to discount Warnock, Hughes, Stendel and Keane from the process. Looking at potential candidates who are in a job that would seem to be Robinson, Robbo , Freedman and Terry (which I find highly unlikely on wages and budget available for players). So I think realistically Robinson, Robbo and Freedman. Of those three I am inclined to think Robinson would put the strongest case of knowing the league, working with the budget and being on an upward curve in his career. That makes me think we are talking about a realistic shortlist of MacPhee, Cotterill and Robinson. Working on the premise that I think MacPhee will definitely be kept as he is close to Budge I think he will end up as the SD. So that leaves Robinson and Cotterill. Based on what both bring to the table the more tangible evidence of having Motherwell punching above their weight in the league would make Robinson seem the least risky proposition (and this seems to be a key consideration as they are taking their time) and I can see him being appointed as manager. So, in summary MacPhee as SD and Robinson as manager is how I can see this panning out. A manager punching above their weight playing attacking football is not a bad outcome for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Adam_the_legend said: I’m in recruitment, never seen a lawyer involved in hiring processes apart from in the legal sector. Drawing up an employment contract is a very separate part of the process. Have you recruited in football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, damo said: A manager punching above their weight playing attacking football is not a bad outcome for me. Edit; replied to wrong person, Edited November 15, 2019 by GinRummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 Up to now the candidates who’ve been mentioned as having interviews leave me no cause for optimism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, PaulHartley10 said: Can't believe Budgey has been able to seek the opinions of this footballing expert. The guy must have some insight. Another footballing dinosaur probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said: Realistic current employed managers: Robinson Holt Neilson Robbo Hartley Add Freedman, Flynn,Johnson, all maybe’s plus there are undoubtedly more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartsofgold Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, August Landmesser said: I'm guessing because Terry's a racist scumbag. Just guessing though. Graham Rix was a sexual predator but we still (unfortunately) appointed him. Edited November 15, 2019 by Heartsofgold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, SteauaNeedarest said: Up to now the candidates who’ve been mentioned as having interviews leave me no cause for optimism. cotterill might be ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB-14 Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, heartsfc_fan said: Realistic current employed managers: Robinson Holt Neilson Robbo Hartley Depressing list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: cotterill might be ok All about himself, poor dynamic for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 hours ago, JFK-1 said: What'st he obsession with the OF? If beating them is the criteria for a manager job in Scotland then almost everybody will be sacked every season. Know what i'm obsessed with? Beating Aberdeen and hubz more often than not. That's the real criteria. So your criteria for a manager is him telling you 3rd is the best we could ever hope for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, stevie1874 said: So your criteria for a manager is him telling you 3rd is the best we could ever hope for? Candidate should be telling us what he is aiming to achieve and how he is going to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartley10 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Another footballing dinosaur probably. No doubt! I got excited about the possibility of changing the entire setup and trying something different. You never know, I could be wrong in my worrying but I'd take MacPhee and Robinson right now to avoid McCall and McCann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Heartsofgold said: Graham Rix was a sexual predator but we still (unfortunately) appointed him. Romanov appointed him - different, less principled times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damo Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, stevie1874 said: So your criteria for a manager is him telling you 3rd is the best we could ever hope for? Until we have a player budget like the OF then I'd suggest it's a fair to say we' will struggle to overtake them both regardless of who is the manager. ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Lippi just resigned from the China national side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle rock Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) We play 4 times a season in glasgow is it to much to ask for us to at least be competitive in these games? I’m not expecting us to go there and play them off the park but we should be competing in these games Whoever the manager is. Edited November 15, 2019 by Castle rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sac Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, mitch41 said: And the question I asked yesterday was answered this morning. Donald Park, a club Lawyer & Ann Budge are doing the interviews. A club Lawyer? Really? were we not led to believe that the panel would be more substantial? Can’t remember the exact quote from the club about who would be involved but it was certainly more than just those three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, sac said: A club Lawyer? Really? were we not led to believe that the panel would be more substantial? Can’t remember the exact quote from the club about who would be involved but it was certainly more than just those three. Does that not indicate these people are in the eliminators? If one is lucky he might...maybe just get a shot at the final interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambonian Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, damo said: Until we have a player budget like the OF then I'd suggest it's a fair to say we' will struggle to overtake them both regardless of who is the manager. ☹️ The old firm have had big players in their teams for years (well Glasgow Rangers did, not so many at Rangers 2012) and when we've recruited well in the past, the mid 90s for example when we signed the likes of Weir, Fulton, Cameron, McCann, Salvatori, Adam, Flogel and many others , we at least competed and gave them a game. At the moment Rangers 2012 must be relieved when they know they are playing us as the game's usually over by the time they score their first goal. Clubs like Killie and Livvy give them a harder time of it than we do. You don't need a massive budget if you recruit well and know how to set out a team (playing players in their natural positions often helps) but a lot of it is down to very effective scouting, something I believe we've lacked these last few years. Plenty good experienced pros around and finding a gem somewhere like we did with Adam or Flogel for example isn't beyond possibilities. We've also got good foreign ex-players all over Europe that could be consulted on any potential targets. Money does help, but it's not all about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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