Taffin Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, TheStig said: Lafferty doesn't go smashing up his room so that could save us a few quid on damages. Lafferty has actually scored goals at our level as well so that might offset the baggage a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarSteve Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hackney Hearts said: Assuming you mean 'has' rather than 'is'... Who has more baggage - Lafferty or Cummings? You assumed correct. Lafferty would be my guess, as am no sure Cumming is known for being a bad gambler. Edited June 28, 2019 by SuperstarSteve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandylejambo Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I cannot get excited about McLean, I can't see Cummings making me moist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav M Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Surely if he was anywhere near riccarton/oriam then someone who had 'spotted' him would have had a pic by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Taffin said: Lafferty has actually scored goals at our level as well so that might offset the baggage a little. Absolutely, there are good players out their that have done far worse off the field than Lafferty, fact is when he played for us he gave his all and scored important goals and that is all that should matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyk Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, dellboy1971 said: Heard the rumour that Jason Cummings has been spotted at Riccarton today anyone heard anything My thoughts are with the Estate Agents at this difficult time.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo85 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) There is no chance that Cummings will ever sign for us. Anyway give me big Lafferty over that wee rodent any day of the week! Edited June 28, 2019 by Lambo85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgieheart Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, dellboy1971 said: Heard the rumour that Jason Cummings has been spotted at Riccarton today anyone heard anything I heard a rumour..... Its Keren, not Karen !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Certainly not ITK, simply chewing the fat earlier in the week when I suggested we target someone like him. I think he scores goals, he may not have done it for Rangers, OF goldfish bowl would have been tough for him. He knows Edinburgh and Hearts, class clown at Hibs, a bit off the rails out of his own environment, possible he would light it up. Its his type of player we lack, whether its him or someone else of his ilk, not really bothered. Like anything else, score a couple, hero, miss a couple of sitters, oxygen thief, regardless of previous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Certainly not ITK, simply chewing the fat earlier in the week when I suggested we target someone like him. I think he scores goals, he may not have done it for Rangers, OF goldfish bowl would have been tough for him. He knows Edinburgh and Hearts, class clown at Hibs, a bit off the rails out of his own environment, possible he would light it up. Its his type of player we lack, whether its him or someone else of his ilk, not really bothered. Like anything else, score a couple, hero, miss a couple of sitters, oxygen thief, regardless of previous Possibly But his 'ilk' is someone who apart from Cup games and a notable relegation play off has not scored at any good level. Shankland comparable. Edited June 28, 2019 by Mikey1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoGwash Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 50 minutes ago, innerjambo said: Hogwash!! What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo, Goodbye Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: What problems has he had that needs fixed? He doesn't have criminal convictions, he hasn't failed a drug test. He likes a wee laugh and he acts a bit daft, but that's it Like chucking TV's out of windows and destroying his own flat? He's an utter bellend and I for one don't want him anywhere near our club. Bottom 6 SPL player at best. And that's probably being generous tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, dellboy1971 said: Heard the rumour that Jason Cummings has been spotted at Riccarton today anyone heard anything I'm gonna stick my neck out here and say I don't think he'll be there for a Heriot Watt open day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jambo, Goodbye said: Like chucking TV's out of windows and destroying his own flat? He's an utter bellend and I for one don't want him anywhere near our club. Bottom 6 SPL player at best. And that's probably being generous tbh. He caused us a bit of grief when he played for Hibs. I would rather he signed for us than went back to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CostaJambo said: I'm gonna stick my neck out here and say I don't think he'll be there for a Heriot Watt open day. Or a graduates reunion. (Or there at all...) Edited June 28, 2019 by Auld Reekin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McStumpy Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, CostaJambo said: I'm gonna stick my neck out here and say I don't think he'll be there for a Heriot Watt open day. These universities don’t clean themselves...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Martin O’Neill sacked by the Tricky Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie1874 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I get the feeling some people wanting Lafferty back because we had a song for him.? He scored a few big goals for us but he missed loads of sitters and definitely WASNT a team player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: Martin O’Neill sacked by the Tricky Trees Fairly getting through the managers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Elwood P said: Better than Morrison? He can score and put crosses into the box so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTBCAL Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sir Gio said: Fairly getting through the managers Players Revolt seemingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: Martin O’Neill sacked by the Tricky Trees Seemingly yet another 'senior player revolt' Sabri Lamouchi (ex Rennes & ivory Coast) being tipped as an immediate replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 minute ago, bazman said: He can score and put crosses into the box so He's 22 now though? Morrison hasn't yet turned 20 and has played 10 games more for Hearts. Both seem to have done well on loan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, PTBCAL said: Players Revolt seemingly Crisis club for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I think the criticism of Morrison is totally unfounded tbh. He’s a young laddie, a teenager in his first team appearances. He has done well, but needs to work on some things. Crazy writing him off when he clearly has the potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: I think the criticism of Morrison is totally unfounded tbh. He’s a young laddie, a teenager in his first team appearances. He has done well, but needs to work on some things. Crazy writing him off when he clearly has the potential. Did well at the start of last season. Lost his way a bit and had injuries. Think he’ll be better with better attacking players around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Morrison suffered the same loss of form as the whole team last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: I think the criticism of Morrison is totally unfounded tbh. He’s a young laddie, a teenager in his first team appearances. He has done well, but needs to work on some things. Crazy writing him off when he clearly has the potential. He needs to be coached correctly This turning back on himself time after time does my head in, surely he should be coached to run across his man? 9/10 times they'll have to foul him. His Crossing definitely needs work, but if he only used his pace to his advantage and ran across men rather than always checking back on himself he'd be a very decent player for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 If we want to be challenging for Europe we can’t rely on a centre half playing centre forward if Uche gets injured. McKenna is rolled out often as an example but he’d played in that position many times before he got to a Hearts. We aren’t a Sunday pub team......build a proper squad ffs. 4 left backs, 3 right backs but only one real CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cruyff Turn said: Did well at the start of last season. Lost his way a bit and had injuries. Think he’ll be better with better attacking players around him. I agree. Even wingers who are a good few years older than him struggle with consistency. Throw a teenage winger in to his debut season in a team that is in flux from injuries and expect him to set the heather on fire? Dreaming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerjambo Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, HoGwash said: What? Funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, kimosavi said: He needs to be coached correctly This turning back on himself time after time does my head in, surely he should be coached to run across his man? 9/10 times they'll have to foul him. His Crossing definitely needs work, but if he only used his pace to his advantage and ran across men rather than always checking back on himself he'd be a very decent player for us He’s a boy. He is learning and adapting. Personally I’d rather not try and train that maverick streak out of him, I’d rather let him get on with it and see if he starts doing it more successfully. I’m a winger at heart, if not in ability. I love players who try and do what he does. I’d sooner he was given the chance to become a Suso or a Milinkovic, than have that beaten out of him and end up a ‘run down the bye-line and swing it in to the box’ automaton, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, DH1986 said: If we want to be challenging for Europe we can’t rely on a centre half playing centre forward if Uche gets injured. McKenna is rolled out often as an example but he’d played in that position many times before he got to a Hearts. We aren’t a Sunday pub team......build a proper squad ffs. 4 left backs, 3 right backs but only one real CF. ?? We have Naismith (fingers crossed), Washington and MacLean who can all play CF. Edited June 28, 2019 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wentworth jambo Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 48 minutes ago, bazman said: He can score and put crosses into the box so Zanatta should be filed in the Wighton category - Championship player at best....will be a "promising youngster" when he's 30. Genuinely would not have him near the 1st team - we have far better young prospects than Zanatta. Morrison is not the finished article either but has way more chance of getting there than Zanatta. Glad to see signings seem to be a much higher quality... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Taffin said: ?? We have Naismith (fingers crossed), Washington and MacLean who can all play CF. Not like Uche they can’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, kimosavi said: He needs to be coached correctly This turning back on himself time after time does my head in, surely he should be coached to run across his man? 9/10 times they'll have to foul him. His Crossing definitely needs work, but if he only used his pace to his advantage and ran across men rather than always checking back on himself he'd be a very decent player for us I’ve moved back now but we were in the 5th row of the main stand and most of the time he turned back was because Smith was shouting on the ball. Smith would then turn back and after between 4-8 passes the ball would be hooded forward, stats look great though. The coaches and Smith should be encouraging him to take his man on, Smith doesn’t currently do this. Edited June 28, 2019 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, PTBCAL said: Martin O’Neill sacked by the Tricky Trees ****ing hilarious ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Muller Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I presume Keena, once fit, will be punted on loan again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Not like Uche they can’t. Naismith plays it better than Uche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: Naismith plays it better than Uche. We play it better with the two of them though. You need adequate replacements for every position.....especially up front or you are rarely winning games. Uche McLean Keena Wighton Washington Get another CF in to compete with Uche and with the addition of Walker and Naismith I’d say that part of the squad is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, DH1986 said: Not like Uche they can’t. I'm inclined to say good. Ideally I'd like us not to rely on a big guy holding the ball up trying to win free kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimosavi Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, Icon of Symmetry said: He’s a boy. He is learning and adapting. Personally I’d rather not try and train that maverick streak out of him, I’d rather let him get on with it and see if he starts doing it more successfully. I’m a winger at heart, if not in ability. I love players who try and do what he does. I’d sooner he was given the chance to become a Suso or a Milinkovic, than have that beaten out of him and end up a ‘run down the bye-line and swing it in to the box’ automaton, personally. I get he is a laddie, but run across your man its the basics off being a winger with pace, make that defender make a decision. He'll get it wrong more often than not, and soon you'll have him playing you on a booking or a red card Its no all about making it to the byline all the time, be clever with your pace, give your marker decisions to make. Foul me or let me go past you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, kimosavi said: He needs to be coached correctly This turning back on himself time after time does my head in, surely he should be coached to run across his man? 9/10 times they'll have to foul him. His Crossing definitely needs work, but if he only used his pace to his advantage and ran across men rather than always checking back on himself he'd be a very decent player for us He turns back on himself because 99% of the times he gets the ball the pass is played behind him, not turning back on himself would mean deliberately turning into trouble. Hopefully every bit of ball work done this season has players running laps for every pass behind someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, Taffin said: I'm inclined to say good. Ideally I'd like us not to rely on a big guy holding the ball up trying to win free kicks. That is the we play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, DH1986 said: That is the we play. Yes, and I don't like it. I also don't think that's how we'll play next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, DH1986 said: We play it better with the two of them though. You need adequate replacements for every position.....especially up front or you are rarely winning games. Uche McLean Keena Wighton Washington Get another CF in to compete with Uche and with the addition of Walker and Naismith I’d say that part of the squad is done. I guess we are expecting Walker to cover Naismith’s usual role, when he’s not available. It looks to me like we are assembling a forward and advanced midfield group who can play a number off positions: Naismith - CF, CAM, CM, RM, LM Walker - RM, CAM, LM Clare - RM, CM, RW Washington - CF, RM, CAM, RW Uche - CF, RW etc... could be wrong though. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, Gerd Muller said: I presume Keena, once fit, will be punted on loan again? Probably. From what I’ve seen of him, he’s a bit away from our level. Needs 30 odd games in the Championship next season on loan. If he scores 15-20 goals, he might get a sniff next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Taffin said: Yes, and I don't like it. I also don't think that's how we'll play next year. We’ve always played like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, kimosavi said: I get he is a laddie, but run across your man its the basics off being a winger with pace, make that defender make a decision. He'll get it wrong more often than not, and soon you'll have him playing you on a booking or a red card Its no all about making it to the byline all the time, be clever with your pace, give your marker decisions to make. Foul me or let me go past you To me his pace is a bonus. I see a guy who can beat players for fun until they double up on him. I’d sooner nurture that side of his game and let him beat player after player. Get the fullback behind him on the same page, and CF knowing what he’s up to, and I have a hope we can see a flair player emerge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Icon of Symmetry said: I think the criticism of Morrison is totally unfounded tbh. He’s a young laddie, a teenager in his first team appearances. He has done well, but needs to work on some things. Crazy writing him off when he clearly has the potential. Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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