muldoon74 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) Picture it: Last day of season, title decider at ibrox Rangers v Hearts... Hearts need only to draw... 1-0, 89 mins, lafferty through on an open Rangers goal.... Would u trust him not to squaff it into the stands deliberatley? Scoring means denying beloved gers title win etc... I wouldn't. Edited August 6, 2019 by muldoon74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4forDevries Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: His antics at Tynie, last season, means he can go **** himself. IMO. Fans need to remember this. I think he could be disruptive to the harmony of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Tenor said: So the headline is Kyle Lafferty wants Hearts return as he says Tynecastle move would be 'ideal'. Here's a few quotes from that article that suggest otherwise: "I’m gutted for my daughter that she won’t see me wear the Rangers shirt ... and that’s so hard to take. She’ll never see me play for the team that I love and the one she will support." - So, 'Daddy or chips' will be 'daughter or Hearts'... 🙄 "People don’t realise how big a club they (Hearts) are" - aye, we do! "We (Rangers) can definitely win the league and go on to win a cup." - you don't ****ing play for them anymore! "I’ll watch all the games I can and wherever I am or whatever club I’m with I hope to be free for the last game for Rangers and watch them lift the trophy." - Well you'll no be at this one, ya devious prick! My thoughts after reading this are definitely don't sign him. Would he score the winner for us against Rangers in a cup final....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, muldoon74 said: Picture it: Last day of season, title decider at ibrox Rangers v Hearts... Hearts need only to draw... 1-0, 89 mins, lafferty through on an open Rangers goal.... Would u trust him not to squaff it into the stands deliberatley? Denying beloved gers title win etc? I wouldn't. That's not going to happen. He did bang one in top bins from a free kick against them though. Maybe he meant to send that out one of Murrayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster20 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) I don't care how much he loves Rangers. To be frank I trust him to score more than any of our current forwards and for that reason I'd love it if he signed for us. Wighton & Keena out on loan and Laff in would be lovely. Edited August 6, 2019 by Rooster20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, MrBones said: Yes, what's that got to do with him taking a pay cut to join them? People at the time saying he had to go as it was the last big move he would get. Turns out he was getting less than at Hearts Maybe he did take a pay cut but maybe he also received a big signing-on fee from Rangers plus other benefits. He would never have been back at Ibroke if we hadn't been happy enough to sell him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naeclue Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Thanks but no thanks from me. If Rangers hadn’t come in and we’d had KL during injury spell our last season would have been different. Now I think we have more foundations in place, and are better off continuing to build, (under whichever manager). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I'm not convinced he would be the same player, and he was bang average a lot of the time first time out, without the motivation of being able to earn a move back to Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Maclean couldn’t score in a brothel so what’s the point having him? Bring him on to slow things down as we try to defend a 1-0 lead which we’ll throw away through a silly mistake anyway? He has helped us lose a hell of a lot of games even though he is an “intelligent player, good guy” according to the happy clappers. Give me a Lafferty who has the IQ of a labrador, hates all things green, does **** all for the whole game then bangs in a winner over a Maclean, any day. Pay cut to join Rangers is a belter though 😂 had to have been meaning his move to Hearts. IQ of a Labrador is generous they are smart dogs Labradors are lovely, friendly, good-natured dogs, but even for dogs, they're bloody stupid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I can’t understand his obsession with that club. He isn’t even a local lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4forDevries Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Finlay James said: With Naismith, Walker, Washington, Ikpeazu, Mulraney, we have plenty of guys who can score and create goals. Rather than Lafferty, I'd prefer we spent our budget on 2 quality midfielders as that is our weakness right now. Spot on. Add in McLean is still clever and Keena is raw hungry talent. No brainer.midfield players needed. Just watch the Aberdeen game again. Edited August 6, 2019 by 4forDevries A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) Several things would need to happen before I'd welcome him back 1) he holds a press conference confirming it was a mistake to leave us, and that he shouldn't have left us. Also apologising to Ann Budge and Levein for throwing their help back in his face. Furthermore apologises wholeheartedly about his antics calling himself a walloper on live tv for what he did to us. 2) He makes it clear he's here for the team not for himself, so he trains with the young team for the first month playing only reserve games for that month 3) He vows to commit his future to Hearts and ONLY hearts with no affiliation for any other team. Any mention of said team outwith hearts on Social Media, in the press, anywhere else etc, is an automatic fine in wages 4) He does not conflict with other players and acts as a senior pro, in the mould of Berra, Naismith and the like. 5) He celebrates every goal against Rangers as if it was Celtic he's scored against 6) The wage we provide him will be no more than 3k per week Call me Lord Sugar Edited August 6, 2019 by Absolute Scenes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 As a player he's the kind of guy we need. As a human being he's a snake and the kind of guy we need to avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gashauskis9 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 By all means bring him back on a pay as you play deal and only play him against Celtic and Hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, jambo19 said: Goals against Hibs, Motherwell, Rangers. Even goals against east fife, something our current strikers couldn't do. He also didn't get much service given how weak the squad was then. Would I start him, no I'd rather Washington and Naismith. Would I rather he came on over MacLean, Wighton or Uche... yes. Naismith could be our box to box midfielder we’ve been crying out for a while for with lafferty and Washington up front. Naismith drops deep when he’s upfront anyways so might as well play him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I think senior members of the squad would be asked their opinion on this one...for example, would Naismith be happy with Kyle coming back etc? Personally, I wouldn't have him back...he may have scored goals, but he brought out the worst of some sections of the support. Think money would be better spent on some quality in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, MrBones said: Yes, what's that got to do with him taking a pay cut to join them? People at the time saying he had to go as it was the last big move he would get. Turns out he was getting less than at Hearts He would've got a hefty signing on fee with umpteen bonuses attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Prof said: Biggest obstacle to him returning is KL. FTFY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sraman Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 To all of the eejits desperate to bring this eejit back to Hearts: Do you remember when our very own young Mr. Cochrane scored a peach of a goal against Celtic? Do you remember him peeling away and starting to run towards the Hearts fans so that he could celebrate his wonderful strike with his own? Do you remember who stopped him from doing this so he could hold him up in front of the Celtic support like some shite pseudo religious get it up ye's? He belongs in the 20th century, we took a chance on him, gave him all the help he needed, he messed it up. He isn't good enough for a team we are looking to challenge, therefore, if we are serious about wanting to challenge them, he isn't good enough for us. The Club needs to keep moving forward, signing him again couldn't possibly be considered a forward move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sraman said: To all of the eejits desperate to bring this eejit back to Hearts: Do you remember when our very own young Mr. Cochrane scored a peach of a goal against Celtic? Do you remember him peeling away and starting to run towards the Hearts fans so that he could celebrate his wonderful strike with his own? Do you remember who stopped him from doing this so he could hold him up in front of the Celtic support like some shite pseudo religious get it up ye's? He belongs in the 20th century, we took a chance on him, gave him all the help he needed, he messed it up. He isn't good enough for a team we are looking to challenge, therefore, if we are serious about wanting to challenge them, he isn't good enough for us. The Club needs to keep moving forward, signing him again couldn't possibly be considered a forward move. First guy ever to give a GIRUY to those cuddly Celtic supporters so for that reason I'm out. Plus the fact he wasn't born n bred on Gorgie Road like every other player in our history. Edited August 6, 2019 by Forever Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Demolition Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Is he better than Wighton? Yes. is he better than Keena? Yes. is he better than Maclean? Yes. is he better than Uche? Yes. is he better than Washington? Jury’s out. this would be a no brainer. I have no concerns about his allegiance to Rangers, he would still do a job for us. Every team needs a maverick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, chester copperpot said: You sure Levein wouldn't want him back. Levein really likes him from what I am told. I'd like this to happen as him and Washington would be brill up front IMO. From what you are told is it true that Naismith can't stand him ? Would not want to disrupt the harmony in the squad. Most importantly would we agree to have it written into his contract that he gets time off to go see The Rangers ? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Several things would need to happen before I'd welcome him back 1) he holds a press conference confirming it was a mistake to leave us, and that he shouldn't have left us. Also apologising to Ann Budge and Levein for throwing their help back in his face. Furthermore apologises wholeheartedly about his antics calling himself a walloper on live tv for what he did to us. 2) He makes it clear he's here for the team not for himself, so he trains with the young team for the first month playing only reserve games for that month 3) He vows to commit his future to Hearts and ONLY hearts with no affiliation for any other team. Any mention of said team outwith hearts on Social Media, in the press, anywhere else etc, is an automatic fine in wages 4) He does not conflict with other players and acts as a senior pro, in the mould of Berra, Naismith and the like. 5) He celebrates every goal against Rangers as if it was Celtic he's scored against 6) The wage we provide him will be no more than 3k per week Call me Lord Sugar Sounds fair enough to me ☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Louis Valois Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 I reckon Levein was more than happy to get rid of him last August. I very much doubt we will see him in a Hearts strip again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Treasurer Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, Hampden Demolition said: Was he better than Wighton? Yes. Was he better than Keena? Possibly but Keena will only improve (unlike KL) Was he better than Maclean? . Probably Was he better than Uche? Totally different type of player Was he better than Washington? CW will only get better as he settles in this would be a no brainer. I have no concerns about his allegiance to Rangers, he would still do a job for us. Every team needs a maverick! Either way KL is yesterdays news, he did nothing of note playing for his beloved sevco, highly unlikely he will be any more motivated playing for anyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosteve1902 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Sraman said: To all of the eejits desperate to bring this eejit back to Hearts: Do you remember when our very own young Mr. Cochrane scored a peach of a goal against Celtic? Do you remember him peeling away and starting to run towards the Hearts fans so that he could celebrate his wonderful strike with his own? Do you remember who stopped him from doing this so he could hold him up in front of the Celtic support like some shite pseudo religious get it up ye's? He belongs in the 20th century, we took a chance on him, gave him all the help he needed, he messed it up. He isn't good enough for a team we are looking to challenge, therefore, if we are serious about wanting to challenge them, he isn't good enough for us. The Club needs to keep moving forward, signing him again couldn't possibly be considered a forward move. people need to wake up that cochrane isn't that good. hes okay and has potential needs a loan though cause he's not there yet. Edited August 6, 2019 by Jambosteve1902 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sraman Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: First guy ever to give a GIRUY to those cuddly Celtic supporters so for that reason I'm out. Plus the fact he wasn't born n bred on Gorgie Road like every other player in our history. Good for you! I'm sure you'll enjoy the 21st century when you finally get here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 The usual twitter goons getting themselves up in arms that some people don’t think he’s a sensible signing. Jamie_jambo. That boys bloody chronic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sraman Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jambosteve1902 said: people need to wake up that cochrane isn't that good. hes okay and has potential needs a loan though cause he's not there yet. I'm glad you got the point of my post. Nice to know someone's paying attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosteve1902 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, Sraman said: I'm glad you got the point of my post. Nice to know someone's paying attention. if you post a pointless point in a post, il pick on it your moaning that fans are excited about bringing a player into the squad who put bums on seats only player in our team who can score the goal he did vs celtic has the ability to win games himself and gives us a good striker, How dare the fans want that! Im not that arsed either way if he joins but ridiculing people for wanting us to buy a good player is stupid even for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 24 minutes ago, Sraman said: To all of the eejits desperate to bring this eejit back to Hearts: Do you remember when our very own young Mr. Cochrane scored a peach of a goal against Celtic? Do you remember him peeling away and starting to run towards the Hearts fans so that he could celebrate his wonderful strike with his own? Do you remember who stopped him from doing this so he could hold him up in front of the Celtic support like some shite pseudo religious get it up ye's? He belongs in the 20th century, we took a chance on him, gave him all the help he needed, he messed it up. He isn't good enough for a team we are looking to challenge, therefore, if we are serious about wanting to challenge them, he isn't good enough for us. The Club needs to keep moving forward, signing him again couldn't possibly be considered a forward move. It’s a bad day when a Hearts player is criticised for a bit of GIUY in front of the hooped demons. Personally, i’d write it into players’ contracts as a prerequisite ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodami Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 In so many ways a pathetically sad character. Sectarian views that belong to another era, attitudes to women that belong to another era, he is a man child who has never grown up. These things don't go unnoticed in any industry, never mind the village that is professional football. Dealing with addiction is undoubtedly phenomenonally difficult but even when he was in a situation when he was being supported by good people he chose to revert to type. He's nearing the end of his career now and is basically whoring himself in the press trying to get a move. That really doesn't augur well. You really have to worry for Kyle Lafferty in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Had he played in the SCF we probably would have won. Do I want him now? no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Finlay James said: With Naismith, Walker, Washington, Ikpeazu, Mulraney, we have plenty of guys who can score and create goals. Rather than Lafferty, I'd prefer we spent our budget on 2 quality midfielders as that is our weakness right now. Naismith is the only one that could possibly score 20+. Walker low double digit if lucky....the others will struggle to get into double figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Munro Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 KL was only good last year because he wanted to move to Rangers. With that outcome effectively impossible (they're not going to take him for a third time) the motivation is gone as so will (most of the goals). He'll still possibly get into double figures, but the goals will come if and when he wants them to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 52 minutes ago, muldoon74 said: Picture it: Last day of season, title decider at ibrox Rangers v Hearts... Hearts need only to draw... 1-0, 89 mins, lafferty through on an open Rangers goal.... Would u trust him not to squaff it into the stands deliberatley? Scoring means denying beloved gers title win etc... I wouldn't. 😂 Rangers in a title race, you’re at it. Absurd scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamorgan Jambo Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 If we have the sort of cash that would be needed to sign Lafferty I'd prefer us to get a better keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosteve1902 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: 😂 Rangers in a title race, you’re at it. Absurd scenario They'l be closer to title than they are to Aberdeen in 3rd place Edited August 6, 2019 by Jambosteve1902 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 He is not coming back to Hearts. He is seen as a disruptive influence and more trouble than he is worth. Steven Naismith can't stand the guy as well which would have been taken into account. He is finished at the top level and will most likely move abroad if anyone will take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagan Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 We need his goals, let's face it. I'd take him back if he was willing to take a modest wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sraman Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jambosteve1902 said: if you post a pointless point in a post, il pick on it your moaning that fans are excited about bringing a player into the squad who put bums on seats only player in our team who can score the goal he did vs celtic has the ability to win games himself and gives us a good striker, How dare the fans want that! Im not that arsed either way if he joins but ridiculing people for wanting us to buy a good player is stupid even for you. Yep, you've got the point of my post alright. Good lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jodami said: In so many ways a pathetically sad character. Sectarian views that belong to another era, attitudes to women that belong to another era, he is a man child who has never grown up. These things don't go unnoticed in any industry, never mind the village that is professional football. Dealing with addiction is undoubtedly phenomenonally difficult but even when he was in a situation when he was being supported by good people he chose to revert to type. He's nearing the end of his career now and is basically whoring himself in the press trying to get a move. That really doesn't augur well. You really have to worry for Kyle Lafferty in the future. Good Post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Boab said: It’s a bad day when a Hearts player is criticised for a bit of GIUY in front of the hooped demons. Personally, i’d write it into players’ contracts as a prerequisite ! I think it's more of the reasons why he does this. He doesn't care about Hearts, he's a rangers fan putting one over Celtic. I think that's what irks, a little. I don't care either way what he does in front of them either way, but as far as taking him back... not for me. I don't think he'd be value for Money now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Glamorgan Jambo said: If we have the sort of cash that would be needed to sign Lafferty I'd prefer us to get a better keeper. Yip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosteve1902 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, Sraman said: Yep, you've got the point of my post alright. Good lad. still not got the point of you being on kickback though need help with that one. evident troll/slavour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Smith's right boot said: I think it's more of the reasons why he does this. He doesn't care about Hearts, he's a rangers fan putting one over Celtic. I think that's what irks, a little. I don't care either way what he does in front of them either way, but as far as taking him back... not for me. I don't think he'd be value for Money now. Don’t think him coming back would be a good thing either, bud. In fact, i’m dead against it. Celebrating in front of the green menace ? 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big man Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 37 minutes ago, Hampden Demolition said: Is he better than Wighton? Yes. is he better than Keena? Yes. is he better than Maclean? Yes. is he better than Uche? Yes. is he better than Washington? Jury’s out. this would be a no brainer. I have no concerns about his allegiance to Rangers, he would still do a job for us. Every team needs a maverick! Spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, luckydug said: From what you are told is it true that Naismith can't stand him ? Would not want to disrupt the harmony in the squad. Most importantly would we agree to have it written into his contract that he gets time off to go see The Rangers ? 😂 I have no idea normally what goes on at Hearts so you may be right. Was told Whelan had signed on saturday so WTF do I know 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sraman Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Just now, Jambosteve1902 said: still not got the point of you being on kickback though need help with that one. evident troll/slavour. Mad Buvien oot!! That better for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambosteve1902 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Sraman said: Mad Buvien oot!! That better for you? much of the same terrible patter from you. just leave it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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