Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, redjambo said: I wouldn't expect perfection. There's no such thing anyway. Hopefully the club will make the right call as to when the time is right, and hopefully that will be soon due to members of the tiny minority being fairly quickly given the heave-ho or persuaded to change their behaviour for the good of the club. Certainly, if we get our house in order and visiting fans are not abiding by the same rules, then I expect vigorous debate on here and a lot of noise to be made about it. But I feel the club should be given a chance first to get ourselves sorted out and to decide exactly what the rules are going to be (standing, national flags, etc.) which experience over the next few weeks should make more clear. That's great in theory but in practice, if our fans react to scummy behaviour from opposing fans then they are the ones who suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingstonjambo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, MacDonald Jardine said: So we'll charge the away clubs for the damage caused by it will we? do you mean in the away end? if so we already do. if you mean by sectarianism, we have to rid ourselves of it before do anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scnorthedinburgh Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said: Thanks for sharing. Ok how much of that was pure profit, and how much of that was over bid? Ever had a mate do a homer for you at mates rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRudi_2012 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, obua said: It has been stated by the club on numerous occasions it is over budget.Most people have accepted the situation,also one of the reasons being that we diverted some funds to storm to the top of the league.But sorry I forgot your not here to hijack the thread with talk about the new main stand build. Well said ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRudi_2012 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, Scnorthedinburgh said: Ok how much of that was pure profit, and how much of that was over bid? Ever had a mate do a homer for you at mates rate? No idea mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, livingstonjambo said: do you mean in the away end? if so we already do. if you mean by sectarianism, we have to rid ourselves of it before do anything else Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellokello Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 hours ago, amadjambo said: If Lennon had not been hit by a coin we would have received a fraction of the criticism, and a tiny fraction at that. Can,t remember wee Jimmy getting involved in all the other coin throwing incidents,from other stadiums,must be a vote winner,to protect wee Lenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diez Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, redjambo said: As I've said, I think that was due to not wanting to be accused of whataboutery, combined with wanting to get our own house in reasonable order first. Hopefully we will be turning our attentions to visiting fans soon, and if we don't then I expect a lot of noise to be made about the fact that we haven't. Hearts and Ann Budge have had ample opportunity to turn their attentions to the behaviour of fans frequenting the School end. Doing so during a period where Hearts fans were behaving in the stadium and largely being praised for their contribution to the club. It didn’t happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingstonjambo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, MacDonald Jardine said: Why? why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, MacDonald Jardine said: Why? Because people in glass houses.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, livingstonjambo said: why not? Why do we have to wait until we're absolutely squeaky clean before calling out sectarianism from the away fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, El Diez said: Hearts and Ann Budge have had ample opportunity to turn their attentions to the behaviour of fans frequenting the School end. Doing so during a period where Hearts fans were behaving in the stadium and largely being praised for their contribution to the club. It didn’t happen. Better late than never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRudi_2012 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Barack said: Would you, or your mate, who despite taking financial profit from Hearts & Ann Budge in particular, wish to retract said defamatory accusations? In light of documented records on the subject? What accusations were made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, El Diez said: Hearts and Ann Budge have had ample opportunity to turn their attentions to the behaviour of fans frequenting the School end. Doing so during a period where Hearts fans were behaving in the stadium and largely being praised for their contribution to the club. It didn’t happen. our own football authorities should be doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRudi_2012 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, El Diez said: Hearts and Ann Budge have had ample opportunity to turn their attentions to the behaviour of fans frequenting the School end. Doing so during a period where Hearts fans were behaving in the stadium and largely being praised for their contribution to the club. It didn’t happen. Folk on here defend her to the hilt. You will get no explanation as to why she chooses to ignore the behavioir of away fans at Tynie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingstonjambo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, MacDonald Jardine said: Why do we have to wait until we're absolutely squeaky clean before calling out sectarianism from the away fans? we dont, look at this from 4 years ago, wont suit your position though https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2859570/Celtic-hit-Hearts-supporters-Ann-Budge-s-open-letter-vow-work-rivals-eradicate-bad-fan-behaviour.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obua Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, KingRudi_2012 said: What accusations were made? The multi million pound fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, MacDonald Jardine said: Why do we have to wait until we're absolutely squeaky clean before calling out sectarianism from the away fans? Who said we do? Just wait until we see how the next few weeks pan out. The battle against visiting fans' behaviour has a different nature to the one against our tiny minority - best not to fight on two fronts at exactly the same time, as Napoleon and others have found out to their cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Dino Velvet said: Because people in glass houses.... In the eyes of Celtic certainly, and Hibs to an extent, we never will be completely clear. Any criticism will be labelled "sectarian ". What we need is a clear definition of what that means, if only as interpreted by the club, then we call out everyone on the same criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, KingRudi_2012 said: What accusations were made? You should know, you made them. Remember, about someone making "millions" from a £500,000 invoice his company sent, for works on the stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingstonjambo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said: Folk on here defend her to the hilt. You will get no explanation as to why she chooses to ignore the behavioir of away fans at Tynie. pish yet again, look at this from years ago https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2859570/Celtic-hit-Hearts-supporters-Ann-Budge-s-open-letter-vow-work-rivals-eradicate-bad-fan-behaviour.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRudi_2012 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, obua said: The multi million pound fraud. Absolute drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, redjambo said: Who said we do? Just wait until we see how the next few weeks pan out. The battle against visiting fans' behaviour has a different nature to the one against our tiny minority - best not to fight on two fronts at exactly the same time, as Napoleon and others have found out to their cost. Who said we do? You've just suggested precisely that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said: What accusations were made? You are at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said: Folk on here defend her to the hilt. You will get no explanation as to why she chooses to ignore the behavior of away fans at Tynie. Another lie from you. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2859570/Celtic-hit-Hearts-supporters-Ann-Budge-s-open-letter-vow-work-rivals-eradicate-bad-fan-behaviour.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRudi_2012 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, SUTOL said: You should know, you made them. Remember, about someone making "millions" from a £500,000 invoice his company sent, for works on the stand. You have lost track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, MacDonald Jardine said: Who said we do? You've just suggested precisely that. "absolutely squeaky clean"? As it is almost the season: Oh no I haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, KingRudi_2012 said: You have lost track. Are you denying it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingstonjambo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, SUTOL said: Another lie from you. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2859570/Celtic-hit-Hearts-supporters-Ann-Budge-s-open-letter-vow-work-rivals-eradicate-bad-fan-behaviour.html shhh dont post that, doesnt suit the agenda..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said: our own football authorities should be doing that They will probably go with the old adage that the old squirm are only following their " traditions" and that makes it all right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRudi_2012 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Barack said: Good effort. Obama was one of the biggest war cheat fraudsers going so I can see you can spot one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, livingstonjambo said: pish yet again, look at this from years ago https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2859570/Celtic-hit-Hearts-supporters-Ann-Budge-s-open-letter-vow-work-rivals-eradicate-bad-fan-behaviour.html Again the original story was Ann having a go at both sets of fans. Celtic fans find this objectionable because they do no wrong. Going forward when do we ever hit the point that we're so innocent we can possibly criticise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRudi_2012 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, SUTOL said: Are you denying it now? That people profited to the tune of millions from our new stand? Na I am not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said: I doubt we will ever reach that stage sadly. We won't if people like you get their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XB52 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Well at least this thread has brought another troll out of the woods, I suspect he will not last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, KingRudi_2012 said: That people profited to the tune of millions from our new stand? Na I am not. Who then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, MacDonald Jardine said: Again the original story was Ann having a go at both sets of fans. Celtic fans find this objectionable because they do no wrong. Going forward when do we ever hit the point that we're so innocent we can possibly criticise? when we get rid if the scum that shouldn't be in the stands. Does this include swearing or occasionally standing up? Naw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diez Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, XB52 said: Well at least this thread has brought another troll out of the woods, I suspect he will not last long. Play the ball not the man. Far too easy to aim accusations rather than discuss the point. Christ, Mothy tried to nail him with an FOH question and got clamped so resorted to similar. Sad times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Riccarton3 said: when we get rid if the scum that shouldn't be in the stands. Does this include swearing or occasionally standing up? Naw. Who said it did? But one wrong shout and we'll be falling over ourselves to apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, redjambo said: Who said we do? Just wait until we see how the next few weeks pan out. The battle against visiting fans' behaviour has a different nature to the one against our tiny minority - best not to fight on two fronts at exactly the same time, as Napoleon and others have found out to their cost. In 3 weeks time, the Orcs come calling. If our fans were so sectarian then they'll be joining the choruses, won't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said: In 3 weeks time, the Orcs come calling. If our fans were so sectarian then they'll be joining the choruses, won't they? I'm sure you remember when that used to happen Geoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingstonjambo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, XB52 said: Well at least this thread has brought another troll out of the woods, I suspect he will not last long. should have been launched 24 hours ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRudi_2012 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, El Diez said: Play the ball not the man. Far too easy to aim accusations rather than discuss the point. Christ, Mothy tried to nail him with an FOH question and got clamped so resorted to similar. Sad times. It is why KB is unable to act a a platform for a wider spectrum of our support. Bullying and silencing of different views is widespread and is reflective of the silencing of debate that exists in Scotland at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRudi_2012 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, livingstonjambo said: should have been launched 24 hours ago You sound so democratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, SUTOL said: I'm sure you remember when that used to happen Geoff. I actually don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjambo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, Geoff Kilpatrick said: In 3 weeks time, the Orcs come calling. If our fans were so sectarian then they'll be joining the choruses, won't they? It's going to be an interesting match in many ways, Geoff. When the Rangers fans sing their sectarian songs, as they will undoubtedly do, then our fans will have every right to loudly take our club to task if we do nothing about it. The club has three weeks to decide how it is going to approach the matter. Could it mark the advent of a new no-nonsense approach to OF fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diez Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, livingstonjambo said: should have been launched 24 hours ago On what grounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRudi_2012 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, SUTOL said: Who then? No idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, redjambo said: It's going to be an interesting match in many ways, Geoff. When the Rangers fans sing their sectarian songs, as they will undoubtedly do, then our fans will have every right to loudly take our club to task if we do nothing about it. The club has three weeks to decide how it is going to approach the matter. Could it mark the advent of a new no-nonsense approach to OF fans? I'd like to hope so but I can see a 3 monkeys stance being adopted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, KingRudi_2012 said: It is why KB is unable to act a a platform for a wider spectrum of our support. Bullying and silencing of different views is widespread and is reflective of the silencing of debate that exists in Scotland at the moment. You were getting called out for bullshit you aired on the stand. That isn't bullying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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