Sharpie Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: Cheers for posting this link - fascinating stuff. My tuppence worth - Burdiehouse is actually a corruption of Bordeaux house - named after a place that was some kind of inn , selling French wines . Was Edinburgh at one point way back almost totally French spoken, and steps were taken to bring that to a halt. I seem to recall gardyloo being the word that started the conversation I was in, actually being garde de leau the French version originally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 5 hours ago, bobsharp said: Was Edinburgh at one point way back almost totally French spoken, and steps were taken to bring that to a halt. I seem to recall gardyloo being the word that started the conversation I was in, actually being garde de leau the French version originally. Don't know about your first part but the highlighted part is what I believe to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANOJAMBO Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 6 hours ago, bobsharp said: Was Edinburgh at one point way back almost totally French spoken, and steps were taken to bring that to a halt. I seem to recall gardyloo being the word that started the conversation I was in, actually being garde de leau the French version originally. French was the language of the royal court in England post 1066 , so I suppose there was a French influence but Edinburgh was an eastern facing port so much influence from France/Germany & "Holland" - apparently there was a lot of interaction from the Scottish fishing fleets . When I did my French Higher 40 years ago my teacher would talk about "old Scottish" words that had French origins. And there are lots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, NANOJAMBO said: French was the language of the royal court in England post 1066 , so I suppose there was a French influence but Edinburgh was an eastern facing port so much influence from France/Germany & "Holland" - apparently there was a lot of interaction from the Scottish fishing fleets . When I did my French Higher 40 years ago my teacher would talk about "old Scottish" words that had French origins. And there are lots. There was also the "Auld Alliance" between Scotland and France between 1295 and 1560 which saw a lot of French words enter Scots language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, Lemongrab said: If anyone fancies a wee read:- http://www.oldandnewedinburgh.co.uk/ I just learned from a quick deek at it, that the Pleasance's name was originally Placentia, named after an Italian city (now Piacenza). Not so. It comes from 'plesance' an old Scots word meaning park/garden. The Placentia story is originally taken from the name of a nunnery whuch was said to be located there called St Marys of Placentia but this has long since been proven to be wrong. https://canmore.org.uk/site/52131/edinburgh-pleasance-convent-of-st-mary-of-placentia Edited August 11, 2018 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I miss this shop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
been here before Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Ahhh Greys. I once bought a small plastic watering can with a brass rose, a large clothes pulley and a glass mantle for a parrafin lamp out of there in one swoop. No other single shop could have stock like that. They sold stuff no-one else did. Brilliant shop that probably hadnt changed that much since 1870. Much missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 3 hours ago, been here before said: Not so. It comes from 'plesance' an old Scots word meaning park/garden. The Placentia story is originally taken from the name of a nunnery whuch was said to be located there called St Marys of Placentia but this has long since been proven to be wrong. https://canmore.org.uk/site/52131/edinburgh-pleasance-convent-of-st-mary-of-placentia Haha, I noticed that on another site and came to post the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 The famous Castle Terrace hole in the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 On 10/08/2018 at 17:41, Maroon Sailor said: Bob on his way to Niddrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 55 minutes ago, Morgan said: I am very happy with that picture, it actually makes me look a lot better than the spectacle I provided between Parkside Terrace and Park Road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, bobsharp said: I am very happy with that picture, it actually makes me look a lot better than the spectacle I provided between Parkside Terrace and Park Road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¼½¾ Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, bobsharp said: I am very happy with that picture, it actually makes me look a lot better than the spectacle I provided between Parkside Terrace and Park Road. There might be a plaque up commemorating it Bob. I'll take a look next time I'm passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 21 hours ago, NANOJAMBO said: French was the language of the royal court in England post 1066 , so I suppose there was a French influence but Edinburgh was an eastern facing port so much influence from France/Germany & "Holland" - apparently there was a lot of interaction from the Scottish fishing fleets . When I did my French Higher 40 years ago my teacher would talk about "old Scottish" words that had French origins. And there are lots. There could be a whole new thread on scots words or sayings which come from foreign langauges. Dinnae fash yerself - from French Dinnae ken - German or Dutch Greetin - Spanish All the romany words too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 5 hours ago, Lemongrab said: There might be a plaque up commemorating it Bob. I'll take a look next time I'm passing. This plaque is to commemorate where PC Robert Sharp attempted to board an Edinburgh corporation number 2 bus whilst on his way to sign on duty at Niddrie police station. A section of the Edinburgh community had not been so entertained for many a year. Signed the Lord Provost.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 22 hours ago, Sydney said: There could be a whole new thread on scots words or sayings which come from foreign langauges. Dinnae fash yerself - from French Dinnae ken - German or Dutch Greetin - Spanish All the romany words too. Braw is a Swedish word with the same meaning as the Scots word (good) I'm not sure which came first or if they are related. I'm sure Bairn is also a Swedish or maybe Norwegian word for child. (That's from watching Wallander, The Bridge or other 'Scandi' tv progs on BBC4 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyBatistuta Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I wonder who we were playing at home that weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 5 hours ago, luckyBatistuta said: I wonder who we were playing at home that weekend Brenda still moaned the grass was to long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dboy Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 On 10/08/2018 at 13:20, Lemongrab said: If anyone fancies a wee read:- http://www.oldandnewedinburgh.co.uk/ I just learned from a quick deek at it, that the Pleasance's name was originally Placentia, named after an Italian city (now Piacenza). This is an interesting site on the derivation of street names (If it has not already been linked) https://www.scribd.com/document/57398403/Edinburgh-Street-Names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Dboy said: This is an interesting site on the derivation of street names (If it has not already been linked) https://www.scribd.com/document/57398403/Edinburgh-Street-Names Thanks for that. Quite interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 On 11/08/2018 at 20:16, Lemongrab said: There might be a plaque up commemorating it Bob. I'll take a look next time I'm passing. Make sure the photos sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carl Fredrickson Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Maroon Sailor said: Loads of great photos on this thread over the last couple of days. Pardon my ignorance but from these ;photos it would look like the train station was built then the hotel was built on/around it. Am I correct in thinking this? It is a part of Edinburgh that I am rarely in but I know the entrance to the car park of the hotel still has the iron surround from the old station. I find the old photos fascinating - the view down towards the bridges with no traffic - if only..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Carl Fredrickson said: Loads of great photos on this thread over the last couple of days. Pardon my ignorance but from these ;photos it would look like the train station was built then the hotel was built on/around it. Am I correct in thinking this? It is a part of Edinburgh that I am rarely in but I know the entrance to the car park of the hotel still has the iron surround from the old station. I find the old photos fascinating - the view down towards the bridges with no traffic - if only..... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Princes_Street_railway_station Edited August 17, 2018 by Maroon Sailor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carl Fredrickson Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Princes_Street_railway_station Thats what I was thinking of - cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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been here before Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Maroon Sailor said: Looking up Dalry Road from Haymarket? Although those flats above the shops on the left dont look right having said that. Edited August 17, 2018 by been here before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Maroon Sailor? You've found some absolutely brilliant photos over the past two months. Any chance you could find some of the Braids and Buckstone? Would be much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, been here before said: Looking up Dalry Road from Haymarket? Although those flats above the shops on the left dont look right having said that. Raeburn Place 1965 Edited August 17, 2018 by Maroon Sailor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Morgan said: Maroon Sailor? You've found some absolutely brilliant photos over the past two months. Any chance you could find some of the Braids and Buckstone? Would be much appreciated! Braidburn Dairy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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