pobster22 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Dbl post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Im sure he has a decent idea of whats going to be offered. For McLaren its more likely about a good career move to help re-establish his profile. Or he's really interested in the challenge at a well run club. Maybe his experiences at more difficult environments eg Mike Ashley in England have led him to look away from England just now. I doubt he needs the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I still think of McLaren being first team coach for the treble winning Man Utd team including Champions League winner. He was a highly rated coach at Derby County under Jim Smith when SAF took him to Man Utd during the treble-winning 1998/99 season. He stayed for another two seasons after that, thus meaning that Man Utd were champions in each of his three seasons there; a 100% record. In that time he was first team coach to players like Beckham, Scholes, Giggs, Yorke, Stam, Sheringham and their captain fantastic: Roy Keane. He won 'Boro their first and only trophy, and took them to their first and only European final. We won the Dutch league with a team that had never won it before. On the other foot, things didn't go to plan at his later stints at Derby, Wolfsburg and Newcastle, but the guy has some serious pedigree. I'd certainly take him at Hearts, and he would increase the club's profile significantly. But would he do a good job for us? There's only one way to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 For McLaren its more likely about a good career move to help re-establish his profile. Or he's really interested in the challenge at a well run club. Maybe his experiences at more difficult environments eg Mike Ashley in England have led him to look away from England just now. I doubt he needs the money. Yeah highly doubtful he needs the money. I think McClaren will see this as a good opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deans-Hearts Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Get him in now........... morale boost for the squad ahead of this weekends game and allows him to asses the team and its numerous weaknesses before the transfer window closes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 After reading that Stampy article I'm practically on my way to the airport now to drive him to Riccarton. Moist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livi Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Surely he'd be aware of the drop in salary before he even pressed send providing his CV Any salary is better than no salary which is what he's on at the moment and he has the chance to put himself into the spotlight again if he can be a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Get him in now........... morale boost for the squad ahead of this weekends game and allows him to asses the team and its numerous weaknesses before the transfer window closes This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartley10 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Do we still have the triple training sessions? Ever since Neilson left the club the professionalism has been on a steady decline for me. McClaren if he's interested please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livi Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Get him in now........... morale boost for the squad ahead of this weekends game and allows him to asses the team and its numerous weaknesses before the transfer window closes This could be why we have gone all quiet on further recruitment. Mrs B did say there would be more signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 There's at least three undercover Hibs trolls on here trying to peddle the myth that they, as 'Hearts supporters', don't want McClaren. Trying to sway the consensus? Or shiteing themselves at the thought of him taking over? I'd say both. FTH. Not sure if you are referring to me and don't really give a shite anyway. My preference would be Freedman over McClaren. I think he'd be hungrier and I think he'd be here for reasons which suit Hearts better than McLarens reasons. Freedman also spoke very well. He'd be considerably cheaper I would imagine and much more likely to hang around more than a season. His record in the last 3-4 years is comparable with McClarens and possibly better depending on how your measuring it. Yes of course McClaren would be a good appointment on the face of it, maybe even a great one. Preferring someone else doesn't make me an undercover Hibs troll. It just makes me different to you. If you cant handle someone having an alternative viewpoint, and everyone who has one is a Hibs troll in your eyes, then you should be questioning your own presence here, not everyone elses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Do we still have the triple training sessions? Ever since Neilson left the club the professionalism has been on a steady decline for me. McClaren if he's interested please. The first season back in the premier league we looked unfit as hell!! And that was with double sessions!! By the way the triple sessions are a bit of a myth. They weren't mandatory and only about 3 players used to turn up!! Even captain Alim used to swerve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 The first season back in the premier league we looked unfit as hell!! And that was with double sessions!! By the way the triple sessions are a bit of a myth. They weren't mandatory and only about 3 players used to turn up!! Even captain Alim used to swerve them. This! team always looked laboured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucille's Thirsty Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 People on here that are saying McLaren wouldn't fit in or he's not managed players at this level, have got to be hobos on the wind up? Regarding Levein at Coral are there any restrictions on him with regards to betting on Hearts like if a player is leaving Hearts he would have a good idea on who too. Is he allowed to bet on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john5698 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 We should want a younger manager, but with experience at a high level,someone who is still hungry to prove himself, it narrows the field a little but they are available. As has been said by some posters if we were to get Steve McClaren this would be a real coup and akin to George Burley, his experience is even greater than Burley's. Can't believe people don't want him. Just who are those high level experienced younger managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquis Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 People on here that are saying McLaren wouldn't fit in or he's not managed players at this level, have got to be hobos on the wind up? Regarding Levein at Coral are there any restrictions on him with regards to betting on Hearts like if a player is leaving Hearts he would have a good idea on who too. Is he allowed to bet on that? Perhaps the people who have doubts about McClaren might be Hearts fans with a different point of view, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 McClaren would be a breath of fresh air and a real coup for the club. Two year deal with options...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartley10 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 The first season back in the premier league we looked unfit as hell!! And that was with double sessions!! By the way the triple sessions are a bit of a myth. They weren't mandatory and only about 3 players used to turn up!! Even captain Alim used to swerve them. Disappointing to hear! I'd like to see someone with the highest experience possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Dan Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 McClaren would be a breath of fresh air and a real coup for the club. Two year deal with options...! No options when it comes to beating the Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I think mclaren coming in would also be a huge boost for daly. An experienced figure to mentor him and give him time to develop and eventually succeed him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford donald Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 People on here that are saying McLaren wouldn't fit in or he's not managed players at this level, have got to be hobos on the wind up? Regarding Levein at Coral are there any restrictions on him with regards to betting on Hearts like if a player is leaving Hearts he would have a good idea on who too. Is he allowed to bet on that? No.Common sense would tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Burley was given the tools McLaren will not have that luxury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychocAndy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 The "He would cost too much" argument doesn't really stand up. Hearts have a vacancy for a Head Coach, McClaren has said he fancies the job, he will know, roughly, the pay for the job, but still applies for it. He must be missing the buzz of being in and around footballers, passing on ideas, out thinking other managers. He may get headhunted by other clubs, or use us as a shop window, but for that to happen we will be winning. A win win for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Any salary is better than no salary which is what he's on at the moment and he has the chance to put himself into the spotlight again if he can be a success. Precisely. A club on the up we are, believe it or not. Not surprised people of his calibre are interested, it's an attractive job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Burley was given the tools McLaren will not have that luxury He won't have the same tools, certainly. He will have some more than decent tools of his own already though, and his new workshop would be furnished with some nifty kit too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 He won't have the same tools, certainly. He will have some more than decent tools of his own already though, and his new workshop would be furnished with some nifty kit too.I think he will be disappointed. Our idea of ambition and investment will fall short of his. I hope not but that's my expectation based on our current economic place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartmitchell Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Do we still have the triple training sessions? Ever since Neilson left the club the professionalism has been on a steady decline for me. McClaren if he's interested please. Interesting point. I was at Riccarton the day after the Dunfermline game and it was dead. Robbie would've had them in either running them into the ground as punishment for being so poor or assessing where it went wrong and learning from it. I don't believe we are working as hard as we used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 No he isnt. For once Glastonbury has a point. I work in Wiltshire and my colleagues are all taking the piss as a result of our interest in McLaren. I don't want him or his brolley anywhere near Tynecastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YMWrules Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 McClaren doesn't feel like a right fit for Hearts at this moment,I feel as supporters we have lost all touch with our coaches and problaby most of our players,I'm not sure he is the man to unite the club as our problems run deeper than our shite starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ1984 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Out to 13/8 Freedman into 8/1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ1984 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 McClaren doesn't feel like a right fit for Hearts at this moment,I feel as supporters we have lost all touch with our coaches and problaby most of our players,I'm not sure he is the man to unite the club as our problems run deeper than our shite starting 11. If he puts a team on the park that wins games the support would be united. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 People on here that are saying McLaren wouldn't fit in or he's not managed players at this level, have got to be hobos on the wind up? Regarding Levein at Coral are there any restrictions on him with regards to betting on Hearts like if a player is leaving Hearts he would have a good idea on who too. Is he allowed to bet on that? Think that example would be called as insider info and is illegal. If you have insider info and invest money in shares you can get in some pretty serious doodoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I think he will be disappointed. Our idea of ambition and investment will fall short of his. I hope not but that's my expectation based on our current economic place That did cross my mind right enough. However, after reading Stampy's article, I am less worried about that. I think his friendship with Levein may mean that he is more than aware of what he would be taking on. One thing I don't think Levein can be criticised for fairly, is ambition. Levein since coming back to Hearts has sometimes fallen short on some areas, but he's tried to bring in some top players and helped facilitate others. He's taken a chance on a few others too, but hey... maybe he's a gambling man! I think Levein, McClaren and MacPhee could be a pretty good football management structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Walsh Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 If mclaren is appointed, it would lift the entire club in a way that we have not seen since Burley arrived over 10 years ago. I'm very proud of what the club has achieved off the pitch since admin but recently, I feel little connection with the players or coaches. I'm hoping that mclaren would change that and give us a team to want to get behind fully. Exactly where I am at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Not sure if you are referring to me and don't really give a shite anyway. My preference would be Freedman over McClaren. I think he'd be hungrier and I think he'd be here for reasons which suit Hearts better than McLarens reasons. Freedman also spoke very well. He'd be considerably cheaper I would imagine and much more likely to hang around more than a season. His record in the last 3-4 years is comparable with McClarens and possibly better depending on how your measuring it. Yes of course McClaren would be a good appointment on the face of it, maybe even a great one. Preferring someone else doesn't make me an undercover Hibs troll. It just makes me different to you. If you cant handle someone having an alternative viewpoint, and everyone who has one is a Hibs troll in your eyes, then you should be questioning your own presence here, not everyone elses. Debate is fine, but every single Hibs troll seems dead against McClaren. Strange eh? And for the record, I wasn't referring to you. But as we've discussed before, you know that I think you're Hibs. And you don't give a **** what I think. So it's all good :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 That did cross my mind right enough. However, after reading Stampy's article, I am less worried about that. I think his friendship with Levein may mean that he is more than aware of what he would be taking on. One thing I don't think Levein can be criticised for fairly, is ambition. Levein since coming back to Hearts has sometimes fallen short on some areas, but he's tried to bring in some top players and helped facilitate others. He's taken a chance on a few others too, but hey... maybe he's a gambling man! I think Levein, McClaren and MacPhee could be a pretty good football management structure. Maybe Craig likes a punt I hope you are correct. Other teams all with momentum. We need a full 180 at the moment. McLaren will be a coup. If we back him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Only just catching up but have people actually said he's not managed at this level as in being a bad thing [emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Maybe Craig likes a punt I hope you are correct. Other teams all with momentum. We need a full 180 at the moment. McLaren will be a coup. If we back him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adayinmay Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Debate is fine, but every single Hibs troll seems dead against McClaren. Strange eh? And for the record, I wasn't referring to you. But as we've discussed before, you know that I think you're Hibs. And you don't give a **** what I think. So it's all good :-) Really? Are they? Every H1b5 friend I have are texting me "are you really wanting the 'Wally with the Brolly'? They're all having a good old chuckle- and putting on false Dutch accents! He may be hugely qualified and a name coup but be braced with the easy piss taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Really? Are they? Every H1b5 friend I have are texting me "are you really wanting the 'Wally with the Brolly'? They're all having a good old chuckle- and putting on false Dutch accents! He may be hugely qualified and a name coup but be braced with the easy piss taking. Honestly dont care about piss taking when he starts winning games nobody will be laughing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Only just catching up but have people actually said he's not managed at this level as in being a bad thing [emoji23] I can't get my head around the fact that Hearts fans wouldn't want him? The mind boggles. Let's go for freedman instead..... Nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Really? Are they? Every H1b5 friend I have are texting me "are you really wanting the 'Wally with the Brolly'? They're all having a good old chuckle- and putting on false Dutch accents! He may be hugely qualified and a name coup but be braced with the easy piss taking. Your Hibs supporting mates are either thick as ****, or over-compensating for the shudder they are experiencing whilst this remains a possibility. You really need to be able to recognise this. Yes, Hibs fans calling Steve McClaren the Wally with the Brolly will keep me up at nights right enough. I'm bracing myself as we speak. The pop-corn toothed, water bottle kicking, wife-beating mutant in the Hibs dugout is more than enough entertainment already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I can't get my head around the fact that Hearts fans wouldn't want him? The mind boggles. Let's go for freedman instead..... Nuts. It's Kickback J [emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Boy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I can't get my head around the fact that Hearts fans wouldn't want him? The mind boggles. Let's go for freedman instead..... Nuts. Aye but Wally wiv a Brolly, eh no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Debate is fine, but every single Hibs troll seems dead against McClaren. Strange eh? And for the record, I wasn't referring to you. But as we've discussed before, you know that I think you're Hibs. And you don't give a **** what I think. So it's all good :-) I think you'd be better served discussing this in private with the moderating team. Clearly you've got some proof and can identify these individuals. I'd be more than happy to identify and prove myself to a moderator. Until that request comes along, do us a favour and shut yer puss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiler Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Back in the day we used to drink pints of wine (amongst other things) down the Cowgate. Sam would be made very welcome I'm sure Drank my first snakebite down the Cowgate back in the day, maybe Sneaky Petes but cani mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzroy Pointon Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Really? Are they? Every H1b5 friend I have are texting me "are you really wanting the 'Wally with the Brolly'? They're all having a good old chuckle- and putting on false Dutch accents! He may be hugely qualified and a name coup but be braced with the easy piss taking. They really cant take the piss out of anyone when they have a horrible ned that square go's people in the street as a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I think you'd be better served discussing this in private with the moderating team. Clearly you've got some proof and can identify these individuals. I'd be more than happy to identify and prove myself to a moderator. Until that request comes along, do us a favour and shut yer puss. Haha na yer orite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 For once Glastonbury has a point. I work in Wiltshire and my colleagues are all taking the piss as a result of our interest in McLaren. I don't want him or his brolley anywhere near Tynecastle. You've gone soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunciboyjambo Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Levein is in the bookies a lot, he likes a bet or two on the dogs. People on here that are saying McLaren wouldn't fit in or he's not managed players at this level, have got to be hobos on the wind up? Regarding Levein at Coral are there any restrictions on him with regards to betting on Hearts like if a player is leaving Hearts he would have a good idea on who too. Is he allowed to bet on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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