Jamhammer Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Somebody to really anchor the midfield. I like Cowie but his style of play doesn't suit what we are trying to do. Grzelak is really too limited to be an attacking threat. Defensive work hasn't looked great either. That's already a worry. Curse of the left is lingering I thought he was one of the best players on the park on Saturday. Opinions tho I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucille's Thirsty Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Ben Amos he'll solve everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I thought he was one of the best players on the park on Saturday. Opinions tho I supposeCowie? I love him. Just think he is lost in the system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fandango Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Ramsay Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Rumour is Ben Amos is travelling up to Edinburgh to agree a deal this week (from a Bolton fan in the thread Keeper and attacking player needed) Better wi Grant Amos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Cowie? I love him. Just think he is lost in the systemPrince tho Cowie, as always worked his arse off Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent vega Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Better wi Grant Amos. No idea who that is or if he is any good but for what it's worth I think we could do a lot worse than Ben Amos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Could McGhee be the 'anchor' in midfield ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendricks Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Could McGhee be the 'anchor' in midfield ? He's not even good enough in his actual position never mind playing him in a midfield lacking in any quality. So in short, NO a ridiculous idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 The system we are playing doesn't have an anchor in midfield. The middle centre back pushes forward into that role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Better wi Grant Amos. [emoji38] [emoji38] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 He's not even good enough in his actual position never mind playing him in a midfield lacking in any quality. So in short, NO a ridiculous idea. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderhall Jambo Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 This guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucille's Thirsty Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Michael Ngoo How on earth was he on the books for Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Could McGhee be the 'anchor' in midfield ? As in keeping us still and rooted, probably. In a Footballing sense, no, no and no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 McGhee stepping forward with the ball was fine on Tuesday but more often it was Nowak who wasn't so good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 McGhee stepping forward with the ball was fine on Tuesday but more often it was Nowak who wasn't so good Going forward it will be souttar who fills that role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 McGhee stepping forward with the ball was fine on Tuesday but more often it was Nowak who wasn't so good Novak is shite. Harsh, but in all honesty I don't see what he adds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgieheart Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Where's this Amos chat from ? He cant get a game ahead of Mark Howard, who is brutally poor... so why would we be wanting him ? Still need a First Choice keeper Still need attacking midfielder Winger would be good Do we need to replace Sammon if he (hopefully) goes to St Johnstone ? Would be ideal to get transfer business sorted sharpish ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Going forward it will be souttar who fills that roleYip. McGhee could be his stand in. Sweeping and the spare man in the 3 would not expose his weaknesses. Exactly his best position for his style. Fine on the ball rubbish in the challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Novak is shite. Harsh, but in all honesty I don't see what he adds. Harsh indeed but...the truth hurts. Screaming out for another 2 or 3 quality players. I dont think we are too far away from being a good side if we can just nail a keeper and a couple of midfielders that are decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Ingram Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Where's this Amos chat from ? He cant get a game ahead of Mark Howard, who is brutally poor... so why would we be wanting him ? Still need a First Choice keeper Still need attacking midfielder Winger would be good Do we need to replace Sammon if he (hopefully) goes to St Johnstone ? Would be ideal to get transfer business sorted sharpish ! Wouldn't be signing Amos without a trial. Which should have happened before now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_T Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The goalkeeper situation is like the striker situation in the latter Vlad years by which we are about to go into a league season woefully short in a key area of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Right now I'd happily put a keeper on the backburner and focus on midfielders. I am delighted with our work so far in improving our defence and attacking options. I am absolutely astonished that we haven't signed anyone for the middle of the park yet and so far have relied on Cowie and Buaben. I have nothing against them but let's be honest that isn't going to do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The goalkeeper situation is like the striker situation in the latter Vlad years by which we are about to go into a league season woefully short in a key area of the team. I would hope that the 'keeper issue is sorted before we go to Parkhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Right now I'd happily put a keeper on the backburner and focus on midfielders. I am delighted with our work so far in improving our defence and attacking options. I am absolutely astonished that we haven't signed anyone for the middle of the park yet and so far have relied on Cowie and Buaben. I have nothing against them but let's be honest that isn't going to do the job. A better keeper is worth maybe 5- 10 points. A better midfield imo, 20 points + I'm with you at least one good midfielder is the priority. Aberdeen have Christie, Stewart, McLean and tansey... Oh and GMS.... We are miles behind that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigolo-Aunt Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Right now I'd happily put a keeper on the backburner and focus on midfielders. I am delighted with our work so far in improving our defence and attacking options. I am absolutely astonished that we haven't signed anyone for the middle of the park yet and so far have relied on Cowie and Buaben. I have nothing against them but let's be honest that isn't going to do the job. I don't often agree with you Bauld but that is spot on the bit highlighted. Would add though that getting a keeper in is vital. Can only think we are waiting on someone and there is something at the players end holding things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 A better keeper is worth maybe 5- 10 points. A better midfield imo, 20 points + I'm with you at least one good midfielder is the priority. Aberdeen have Christie, Stewart, McLean and tansey... We are miles behind that. Not Tansey but the rest and Shinnie. Where we are sadly lacking. Cowie does nothing wrong but we need better than what we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Not Tansey but the rest and Shinnie. Where we are sadly lacking. Cowie does nothing wrong but we need better than what we haveCowie would add energy to a midfield of quality, for example using Aberdeen, Cowie for tansey would work. Tansey gives hem balance and allows the attacking players, to attack. Cowie Could do that for us with his energy, he lacks a bit quality to because threat and/ or control games. We have prince and a walker and Djoum who blow hot and cold, supported by Novak... We haven't replaced tziolos or kitchen, harry can't play too many games. We must have midfielders incoming. Aberdeen must have 40 +goals in that midfield, we have maybe 20 and thats walker, when he tends to score in batches and is on penalty's. Jesus, between this and the Cathro out threads and the worst result threads, this place needs monitored. Depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego10 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The centre of midfield is our key area. At the moment it's, with the goalkeeping position, the weakest area of the team. I genuinely think one good signing would make a huge difference if it is someone who can be a dynamic driving force. Djoum and Cowie with a more physical player beside them would work well imo. Djoum should be playing a bit deeper for us as he does for Cameroon I think. Which means however that we'd need to leave out Walker or Goncalves if we are going to stick with the 3-5-2. Not against that as the team is more important than individuals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debut 4 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 A better keeper is worth maybe 5- 10 points. A better midfield imo, 20 points + I'm with you at least one good midfielder is the priority. Aberdeen have Christie, Stewart, McLean and tansey... Oh and GMS.... We are miles behind that. yip. In midfield they have what we don't. Athleticism, positivity, needle and toughness. They have one wee shit in Shinnie who goes through tackles and drives forward in possession. McLean is a bit more all round. They have a good mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferryjambo99 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Hamilton isn't and will never be good enough, new keeper is a priority. Surprised we haven't tried starting Martin ahead of prince, he's looked good when he's come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauld Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Buaben was all set to join Ross County. It didn't happen but the club had agreed he could go. You can't have a club the size of Hearts relying on a player who's best option recently was to join Ross County. We have Djoum and Martin but neither are the type we need. The type we need is the player who can play alongside these players. Djoum, Cowie and Martin can all create things but we're missing the terrier in the Vidal type mentality who will allow them to go and do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo1954 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Missing a player with imagination in the middle of the park,and a decent goalkeeper. Bottom six if we don't sort it. Cowie and Bauben not the solution,journeyman at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobskeldon Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Missing a player with imagination in the middle of the park,and a decent goalkeeper. Bottom six if we don't sort it. Cowie and Bauben not the solution,journeyman at best. We need someone who will boss the midfield, a Ross Draper type of player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The good thing now is we find ourselves in the situation where the most pressing issues in our squad have been resolved and we can now take our time on identifying the right man between the sticks and in midfield. Certainly taking our time!!! Fingers crossed we have a new keeper soon in time before the Celtic game! Running out of days now though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Djoum, Cowie and Martin can all create things but we're missing the terrier in the Vidal type mentality who will allow them to go and do that. An Ian Black type of a player. Wore his heart on his sleeve did Blackie. I always liked Tommy Gronlund in the midfield terrier role. Hearts sorely need someone in that role. A Brellier or a Palazuelos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Agree with what folk are saying, soft as shite in the midfield, need a tough nut in there. Need a passer and someone that can belt one in from distance. Fulton, Cameron types required. Desperately need a keeper though. If teams go back to front against us, put a lot of crosses in and get a lot of set pieces then I fear that we will lose a lot of soft goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 We are miles behind the Hibs midfield as well, Rudi. I defy anyone to say that anyone of McGinn, McGeoch, Bartley and probably their new Lithuanian would not improve our midfield. Urgently need this remediated because Cathro's job may well depend on it. Possibly, but imo we are over rating hibs a little. Walker and Djoum would improve hibs, not so sure about Aberdeen. However, as you say it needs fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 We are miles behind the Hibs midfield as well, Rudi. I defy anyone to say that anyone of McGinn, McGeoch, Bartley and probably their new Lithuanian would not improve our midfield. Urgently need this remediated because Cathro's job may well depend on it. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 An Ian Black type of a player. Wore his heart on his sleeve did Blackie. I always liked Tommy Gronlund in the midfield terrier role. Hearts sorely need someone in that role. A Brellier or a Palazuelos. What we need are players who can play with dynamism and pace. We are just so slow and pondering, we pass pass pass......and pass again, it's Scottish football FFS, we are not and never will be Barcelona, and we are not in LaLiga Scottish football like it or not is football played differently from other leagues, and to be successful you need players who have dig and determination and who get the ball forward as quickly as possible, this was how Alex MacDonalds Hearts side of Robbo Colquhoun and Sandy Clark played , industrial but very exciting at times. Fair enough this might not work in the European arena, but we are talking about Hearts in Scotland, European football is an argument for another day. It's now obvious Cathros football "philosophy " is not suitable for Scottish football, we are not and never will be Barcelona Why the hell do we make 5 passes when in most cases 1 pass will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManorJambo Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 What about Liam Henderson from Celtic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboJen Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 An Ian Black type of a player. Wore his heart on his sleeve did Blackie. I always liked Tommy Gronlund in the midfield terrier role. Those were the two who came to my mind while reading the last couple of pages. For now I think I'd play Cowie slightly deeper and start Martin instead of Buaben, but in all honesty we probably need two: even if one is just a destroyer who breaks things up and gives the ball straight to the more technical players. We definitely need creativity though. Djoum is disinterested and Walker's better scoring than creating and even that hasn't happened from him so far this season, with a host of missed chances in the cup games so far - unlike his potential replacement, Cadden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I am surprised we haven't done anything with midfield to date. Once 3 4 3 is proved to be a pipe dream we seriously lack midfielders and wide players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac80 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 What about Liam Henderson from Celtic? Lol. He will be at the vermin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_jailer Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 What about Liam Henderson from Celtic? Would be a great signing but unfortunately I think he will end up at Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Those were the two who came to my mind while reading the last couple of pages. For now I think I'd play Cowie slightly deeper and start Martin instead of Buaben, but in all honesty we probably need two: even if one is just a destroyer who breaks things up and gives the ball straight to the more technical players. We definitely need creativity though. Djoum is disinterested and Walker's better scoring than creating and even that hasn't happened from him so far this season, with a host of missed chances in the cup games so far - unlike his potential replacement, Cadden. Djoum was definitely disinterested last season, but he's only played about 15mins so far this year, and apparently he was quite sparky up at Peterhead - I'd wait and see how he settles in with the new players (if he's still here in September that is...). We definitely need a scrappy little bollix in the middle though - a Darian Mckinnon-type, but better and not a scumbag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribble Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I honestly think that the biggest issue we have with the midfield is that we don't have 2 players that 'get' each other, you can train and coach players all you want but sometimes players are just on the same wavelength. None of our midfielders seem to know what the person with the ball is going to do next, if they guess the ball is going short then it's long and vice versa. hopefully we can bring someone in that 'gets' one or two of the others and everything falls into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 We need the type of midfielder that was out on the pitch on Saturday (not) doing the 1/2 time draw!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboJen Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Djoum was definitely disinterested last season, but he's only played about 15mins so far this year, and apparently he was quite sparky up at Peterhead - I'd wait and see how he settles in with the new players (if he's still here in September that is...). We definitely need a scrappy little bollix in the middle though - a Darian Mckinnon-type, but better and not a scumbag! If we got the 2015/16 Djoum back we'd immediately become a better prospect. I hope he knuckles down and realises that good performances for us will give him a much better chance of getting the move he wants. If he plays deeper as he does for Cameroon he could be a lot like Ian Black but without the bite. A spine of Souttar, Djoum and a new creative, attacking midfielder would (should) change our play dramatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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