johnking123 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 We need to win on Saturday. Then sign some more quality players in midfield and goalkeeper. Then we may see a bigger shift in tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 If my figures are even close to accurate, then the Hospitality STs aren't selling very well. There were 872 STs available between the five lounges and the private boxes based on the original announcement. The club also said that to 80 seats in the "Private Members Lounge" had sold out. That suggests that the other lounges and boxes have only sold a fraction of their capacity. I don't know what the issue is, e.g. pricing, excess availability or the fact that the lounges won't actually be ready before January, but I'd suspect that the club will view the sales as disappointing. The same issue is apparent in the Premium ST section where there are 250 seats, but only 68 have been sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 If my figures are even close to accurate, then the Hospitality STs aren't selling very well. There were 872 STs available between the five lounges and the private boxes based on the original announcement. The club also said that to 80 seats in the "Private Members Lounge" had sold out. That suggests that the other lounges and boxes have only sold a fraction of their capacity. I don't know what the issue is, e.g. pricing, excess availability or the fact that the lounges won't actually be ready before January, but I'd suspect that the club will view the sales as disappointing. The same issue is apparent in the Premium ST section where there are 250 seats, but only 68 have been sold. If the Premium ST seats are not selling, let's tear down the police box and put the cops there. Just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 If my figures are even close to accurate, then the Hospitality STs aren't selling very well. There were 872 STs available between the five lounges and the private boxes based on the original announcement. The club also said that to 80 seats in the "Private Members Lounge" had sold out. That suggests that the other lounges and boxes have only sold a fraction of their capacity. I don't know what the issue is, e.g. pricing, excess availability or the fact that the lounges won't actually be ready before January, but I'd suspect that the club will view the sales as disappointing. The same issue is apparent in the Premium ST section where there are 250 seats, but only 68 have been sold. I don't think hospitality sounds great value for money right now - there's a very minor discount for the suites because they won't be ready until January. Around 11 games. Presume they'll get Gorgie hospitality until the suites are ready, but that's a trek to your seat and not quite what you're paying your money for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanmac Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Don't think I'd be in any hurry to buy a private box that ain't going to be ready til god knows when. Once it's all up and running it'll all sell out. I have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 If my figures are even close to accurate, then the Hospitality STs aren't selling very well. There were 872 STs available between the five lounges and the private boxes based on the original announcement. The club also said that to 80 seats in the "Private Members Lounge" had sold out. That suggests that the other lounges and boxes have only sold a fraction of their capacity. I don't know what the issue is, e.g. pricing, excess availability or the fact that the lounges won't actually be ready before January, but I'd suspect that the club will view the sales as disappointing. The same issue is apparent in the Premium ST section where there are 250 seats, but only 68 have been sold. I would imagine that a lot of folk who would buy seats for special occasions in the Premier section, (at Premier prices, circa ?40-?50) have already got season tickets throughout the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I would imagine that a lot of folk who would buy seats for special occasions in the Premier section, (at Premier prices, circa ?40-?50) have already got season tickets throughout the ground.That would be my thinking on this aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley_ Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, didn't we release the premium seats in the new stand after the rest of the seats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyboy Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Anyone still waiting on new ST cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboJen Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Basic sums would suggest that if we sold 14,000 that would leave us 6,000 seats (I'm led to believe) available. Just use FF's dot count. He's got 2,200ish seats remaining around the stadium, plus the 400ish that we'd get in section K as well. So at the moment there's around 2,600 seats available for season tickets and/or walk ups for the Aberdeen match (they'll get 1,400 away tickets). Our figure is also dependent on hospitality sales, so there may be more home seats if hospitality doesn't sell out, although the expecting would be that it will for category A matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kettering jam tart Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Not quite. Of the 2,400 or so that you mention, there's still a huge chunk of hospitality seats in that figure that's almost certain to go in the big games, there's a couple of chunk of seats near the front of the stand that aren't likely to be used for general sales (behind the technical areas) and then there's the directors box (not sure of the number of seats in there) and of course the remaining premium seats. In terms of 'ordinary' / non-hospitality / non-director / non-premium seating, I would imagine it would be more like 1,000 or so available. Some amount of hospitality seats we have then? I'm not picking fault, I'm no expert on certain aspects of the capacity of certain areas, but your saying 800-1,000 seats are going to be for hospitality sales? I don't want them to have the roseburn either but I'm looking at the bigger picture and based on sales of 14,000 (if we sell that) wouldn't be enough to stop that happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Some amount of hospitality seats we have then? I'm not picking fault, I'm no expert on certain aspects of the capacity of certain areas, but your saying 800-1,000 seats are going to be for hospitality sales? I don't want them to have the roseburn either but I'm looking at the bigger picture and based on sales of 14,000 (if we sell that) wouldn't be enough to stop that happening There are 872 Hospitality STs available in the main stand, but also up to another 422 match day hospitality seats available in the Gorgie stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelgeJambo Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Anyone still waiting on new ST cards I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hueyview Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 There are 872 Hospitality STs available in the main stand, but also up to another 422 match day hospitality seats available in the Gorgie stand. As previously said, that's a lot of hospitality..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Anyone still waiting on new ST cards Not got mine yet - e mail I received when I renewed stated I'd receive it "sometime in July"! 4 more sleeps ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Don't think I'd be in any hurry to buy a private box that ain't going to be ready til god knows when. Once it's all up and running it'll all sell out. I have faith.This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I don't actually care if the sectarians get the whole of the Roseburn. What I care about is that we thrash them. If they pay a premium for that privilege, that's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Said before there are far too much hospitality options for a club our size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars plastic Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Said before there are far too much hospitality options for a club our size. I believe a couple of the lounges are already sold out. Take the second floor for instance, that'll be catering for up to 600 outwith match day. The club are building a facility to generate income where we couldn't do previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Said before there are far too much hospitality options for a club our size. How much is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homme Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 How much is there? Isn't there 5 different packages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Said before there are far too much hospitality options for a club our size. I'm pretty sure the club will be delighted to sell a couple of hundred season passes for hospitality. I imagine their strategy will go beyond Hearts supporters and to be drawing in big business' corporate entertainment budgets that will otherwise be spent at Ibrox, Parkhead or Murrayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John mcCartney Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I don't actually care if the sectarians get the whole of the Roseburn. What I care about is that we thrash them. it figures....you on the other side of the world and this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Dave Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Too many hospitality seats to me is the right thing to do. They are by far and away the most profitable seats and we need to think forwards about growth might be, not what demand is today. The stadium capacity is constrained by council health and safety rules so we need to maximise this side of things. I think the gorgie suite holds 300-400 and that pretty much sold out every week in the past few years. I suspect the Gorgie suite will change to an informal bar type thing for normal punters once the new facilities are up and running (not ITK, just my guess). As others have said, people/companies will more likely buy season tickets for hospitality once they see what they are getting for a whole season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 If Premier seats dont sell lets put the charity tickets in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I believe a couple of the lounges are already sold out. Take the second floor for instance, that'll be catering for up to 600 outwith match day. The club are building a facility to generate income where we couldn't do previously. Agreed i didnt expect it to be completely sold out in all areas in our first season with a half built stand but we need this size going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavK1012 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I don't actually care if the sectarians get the whole of the Roseburn. What I care about is that we thrash them. If they pay a premium for that privilege, that's good. Its a bit diff for folk that are at Tynie and have to see and hear that first hand I have to say though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Would KB ever be in a position to buy a table of ST in a lounge and raffle them off every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Isn't there 5 different packages? I've no idea exactly how much there is and how many seats are put aside for the packages. As you said there is far too much hospitality I thought you'd know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Would KB ever be in a position to buy a table of ST in a lounge and raffle them off every week. Good idea maybe a whole table of 10 in the Sky thingy and auction off 2 seats at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Would KB ever be in a position to buy a table of ST in a lounge and raffle them off every week.Would be nice to see the "internet hard men" face to face. Absolute carnage..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I have just said on the new stand thread that we should sell the seats that will have a full view once the police box goes as bronze category half STs or sell now and relocate the buyers until ready. Thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Would be nice to see the "internet hard men" face to face. Absolute carnage..! I've done JKB Hospitality before and a nicer bunch of people you couldn't meet. Great days out. The people acting daft on here probably wouldn't be allowed into hospitality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I've done JKB Hospitality before and a nicer bunch of people you couldn't meet. Great days out. The people acting daft on here probably wouldn't be allowed into hospitality. Obviously they only turn into the exorcist when they're on the keyboard..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Obviously they only turn into the exorcist when they're on the keyboard..!No, they are as decent on here as they are in person. Anyone acting the goat on here are probably kids or strange people like that green guy who has a problem with...well...everything.Take every post with a pinch of salt....and definitely not seriously ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 If my figures are even close to accurate, then the Hospitality STs aren't selling very well. There were 872 STs available between the five lounges and the private boxes based on the original announcement. The club also said that to 80 seats in the "Private Members Lounge" had sold out. That suggests that the other lounges and boxes have only sold a fraction of their capacity. I don't know what the issue is, e.g. pricing, excess availability or the fact that the lounges won't actually be ready before January, but I'd suspect that the club will view the sales as disappointing. The same issue is apparent in the Premium ST section where there are 250 seats, but only 68 have been sold. Will be lots of empty seats showing directly in front of tv cameras then Not a great impression to show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Dave Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Will be lots of empty seats showing directly in front of tv cameras then Not a great impression to show I would imagine the vast majority of hospitality sales are typically on a game by game basis anyway. I usually do it once per year and I'm sure there are many others in the same boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I would imagine the vast majority of hospitality sales are typically on a game by game basis anyway. I usually do it once per year and I'm sure there are many others in the same boat. Yeah fair enough, good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I would imagine the vast majority of hospitality sales are typically on a game by game basis anyway. I usually do it once per year and I'm sure there are many others in the same boat. I would say that the largest proportion of hospitality will be done on a game by game basis I find there will be very few actively doing this for a full season upfront so I dont actually think the hospitality sales are that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Dave Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I would say that the largest proportion of hospitality will be done on a game by game basis I find there will be very few actively doing this for a full season upfront so I dont actually think the hospitality sales are that bad. The key point is, we now have room for growth in this high revenue space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I've done JKB Hospitality before and a nicer bunch of people you couldn't meet. Great days out. The people acting daft on here probably wouldn't be allowed into hospitality. Indeed. Pissheads to a man (or woman) though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboelite Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 The key point is, we now have room for growth in this high revenue space Absolutely growth in this area is much more profitable as you say than standard ST sales so its important to have that level of scope and will make a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Sorry, diodn't see the earlier posts on this. Seems the club are saying we have sold about 13.5k of season tickets and they are hopeful of achieving the target of 14k. http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6086 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Seems the club are saying we have sold about 13.5k of season tickets and they are hopeful of achieving the target of 14k. http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6086 And that we had 13,800 season ticket holders in 2016/17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Would KB ever be in a position to buy a table of ST in a lounge and raffle them off every week. We are always looking at ways to allow subscribed members the chance of subsidised hospitality and we recently bought two premier season tickets. We will continue to look for opportunities, particularly in the new stand, but a table of 10 for a whole season might be a stretch too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Get rid of Cathro and we will easily get over the 14k. Keep him in place and Ann Budge can remain hopeful. Sorry, diodn't see the earlier posts on this. Seems the club are saying we have sold about 13.5k of season tickets and they are hopeful of achieving the target of 14k. http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/6086 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Wed have hit 15,000 if we had a competent manager.. Unless we sign a big name manager I think this year it will make very little difference who we have running the team. Even then I would be surprised if we saw an instant big jump in sales. I am surprised how well tickets have sold this year and as a support we deserve a lot of credit for our continued support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Get rid of Cathro and we will easily get over the 14k. Keep him in place and Ann Budge can remain hopeful. No evidence to back this up. Our season ticket sales are going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 No evidence to back this up. Our season ticket sales are going well. If we were not completely pish then we'd get more fans.. It's a safe assumption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Yep you just need to look back to the 2005/06 season as proof If we were not completely pish then we'd get more fans.. It's a safe assumption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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