King Of The Cat Cafe Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just now, Jamboelite said: Tynecastle template as far as i know. Is it not the same width, but a bit longer? (I'll wait....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coburg Hearts Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, ramrod said: Come on FF ,don't you think that CL would just have said that then ? Its not cloak and dagger stuff , we are trying to get the game on for the 5th but have a plan B , that's it . Exactly this. Much ado about sweet feck all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobar PHM Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jamboelite said: Which is stating the obvious. True, but we haven't done any work at that end of the stand for weeks. Possibly its because it needs to be open for the big plant to get access to the front, but still doesn't look like it can be done in 3 weeks to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Fox Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 On 11/10/2017 at 11:12, Erik said: The default response to this is that the previous plan (with an opening date of September) essentially went out the window when the delays were announced and the revised date of 5th November was announced. The plan and order of work was reprioritised at that stage, although looking between the lines - I think its pretty clear to most that, seats or no seats, we were never making the September deadline. But yeah, that's the answer - we're in a different position now thanks to a different plan. If the re-planning means that we're still going to miss the date even with a 2 month extension though, that will be pretty poor in my opinion. It’s looking like it’s going ‘to the wire’ on readiness. The reprioritised plan was either; 1. Correct plan but key dates have been missed or, 2. It was over ambitious with no contingency time for unforeseen activities built in. Unfortunately it now all feels very tight. By now I’d have expected key equipment eg fire fighting equipment (extinguishers) etc and all signage eg exit signs to be in place. Equipment testing eg smoke detection, lighting etc in progress. Staff (stewards) training, facility familiarisation etc to be happening to ensure crowd safety . Police, ambulance & fire authorities public events plans etc development near completetion etc. Regardless whenever it’s ready TYNECASTLE PARK will be fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 From FB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Parmesan Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, wavydavy said: Levein said that we had the pitch dimensions made the same as Tynecastle for the Aberdeen game so would imagine the same for Saturday. It's the same width, but longer, as the goalposts go in where the rugby posts usually are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobreath Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 36 minutes ago, Meestah Sahmon said: Whatever the badge is made of in the pictures shown has creases in it, Does it? Looks like it could just be reflections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I think it will all come down to when/if the remaining seats arrive in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Gene Parmesan said: It's the same width, but longer, as the goalposts go in where the rugby posts usually are. Correct. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-squeeze-murrayfield-pitch-aberdeen-11133335 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Gene Parmesan said: It's the same width, but longer, as the goalposts go in where the rugby posts usually are. Both Tynecastle and international rugby pitches are 100m long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussAsia Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just now, Rudolf said: Correct. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/hearts-squeeze-murrayfield-pitch-aberdeen-11133335 I wonder if we could alter it for the St Johnstone game.. We needed it tight for a tough battle against Aberdeen and possibly again against Rangers.. However St Johnstone where they are much better on the tight pitch I wonder if we have the opportunity to widen it to give ourselves more space.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandylejambo Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 If it's not ready on the 5th Nov, it's not the end of the world, but it is a bit disappointing considering they should have been ready to take the support two months before, we have years and years to live with the new stand but someone should get their arse kicked if there is another delay because after the first missed date they should have been careful in their forecasting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Parmesan Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: Both Tynecastle and international rugby pitches are 100m long. Better tell Craig Levein and the Murrayfield groundstaff bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: From FB 2 minutes ago, Nobreath said: Does it? Looks like it could just be reflections. Those aren't reflections. Evidently it's not fitted "flush" yet and requires more tinkering and appears to have a bit of a sunken section in the middle, so I'm sure it'll look grand once completely done. I appreciate the symbolism attached to the badge going back up on the front of the stand, I just personally didn't have it in my mind we'd be putting a sheet of plastic over an outline of a heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, wavydavy said: Levein said that we had the pitch dimensions made the same as Tynecastle for the Aberdeen game so would imagine the same for Saturday. A bit longer but same width https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-make-bt-murrayfield-pitch-same-width-as-tynecastle-1-4553961/amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviskan Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Won't it simply be a protective thin sheet of clear plastic...which will be pulled off once the build is finished (i.e. like what you get on a new phone to protect the screen)? My OCD over detail is once again nitpicking...but I'd have moved the badge slightly lower, so that the point at bottom went into the row or windows below more. Also think the lettering should have been spaced out more in Tynecastle Park...after seeing a picture of illuminated letters earlier in the thread. The lighting on those letters gave an outline of the letter that wasn't touched by the neighbouring letter...our sign (if it's the same backlit lighting), the light will basically just bleed into each neighbouring letter...rather than giving an outline (i think?!). But cest la vie...still fecking awesome! Edited October 19, 2017 by Deviskan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Deviskan said: Won't it simply be a protective thin sheet of clear plastic...which will be pulled off once the build is finished (i.e. like what you get on a new phone to protect the screen)? Could well be something like that. Perhaps when it's been flattened out/tightened and the lighting put on it'll all be grand. This is the downside of us having instant access to images where things aren't 100%. It doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to ask the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niblick1874 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 18 hours ago, scott herbertson said: The huge surprise is that that machine is going to streeeetchhhh those letters across the whole facade! You've had me chuckling a lot lately scott. Keep it up please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUTOL Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Barack said: If it’s to be backlit like the lettering, then they’d have spent more time today, wiring it in, surely? The metal back box/heart outline that was fixed up last night has the led lights and wiring etc in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said: Better tell Craig Levein and the Murrayfield groundstaff bro. Assuming CL is right and the pitch is 5m longer than Tynecastle, it just means that the football goal posts can't be in the same position as the rugby ones. From the laws of rugby union 1.2 Required dimensions for the playing enclosure (a) Dimensions. The field of play does not exceed 100 metres in length. Each in-goal does not exceed 22 metres in length. The playing area does not exceed 70 metres in width. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Meestah Sahmon said: Those aren't reflections. Evidently it's not fitted "flush" yet and requires more tinkering and appears to have a bit of a sunken section in the middle, so I'm sure it'll look grand once completely done. I appreciate the symbolism attached to the badge going back up on the front of the stand, I just personally didn't have it in my mind we'd be putting a sheet of plastic over an outline of a heart. It's a vinyl print, back lit on clear shaped heart so the lighting can illuminate the badge - what's your isssue? Do you know how these things are designed and used? Any experience of graphics? Of were you expecting it to be cast from the ore extracted from the Royal Mile - then back lit through the iron. The best for a quality seemless finish - is the one we've installed. The best for illuminating from the rear - is the one we've installed. The best for longevity - is the one we've installed. The best for removing and replacing - is the one we've installed. The one on the old stand was fitted in 2 sections and you could see the split down the middle, it was also fading. You'll be moaning about there only being white sugar at the food kiosks next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Barack said: If it’s to be backlit like the lettering, then they’d have spent more time today, wiring it in, surely? What was the Old Stand’s Heart made of? I’d be more than a little bit surprised if the finished article is some sort of vinyl. One that has to stand up to the rigours of intense heat blazing through it for hours. Maybe Thomaso, or Obua can shed some (ahem) light. Intense heat? From an LED??? You ever touched an LED? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, sandylejambo said: If it's not ready on the 5th Nov, it's not the end of the world, but it is a bit disappointing considering they should have been ready to take the support two months before, we have years and years to live with the new stand but someone should get their arse kicked if there is another delay because after the first missed date they should have been careful in their forecasting. No: as long as it's at Murrayfield. staring at tickets already bought for travel on November 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: Assuming CL is right and the pitch is 5m longer than Tynecastle, it just means that the football goal posts can't be in the same position as the rugby ones. From the laws of rugby union 1.2 Required dimensions for the playing enclosure (a) Dimensions. The field of play does not exceed 100 metres in length. Each in-goal does not exceed 22 metres in length. The playing area does not exceed 70 metres in width. Is it 100 meters from try line to try line or does that include the space behind the goals where trys can be scored... Ps. To those asking, of course that's the final badge. It looks just as good as the old one. Not one of you will know what the old one was made of nor will you have ever g9ven it a though but there are some on here desperate to complain about what the new one is made from. Edited October 19, 2017 by hughesie27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just now, Barack said: I like the badge. Calm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Armageddon said: It's a vinyl print, back lit on clear shaped heart so the lighting can illuminate the badge - what's your isssue? Do you know how these things are designed and used? Any experience of graphics? Of were you expecting it to be cast from the ore extracted from the Royal Mile - then back lit through the iron. The best for a quality seemless finish - is the one we've installed. The best for illuminating from the rear - is the one we've installed. The best for longevity - is the one we've installed. The best for removing and replacing - is the one we've installed. The one on the old stand was fitted in 2 sections and you could see the split down the middle, it was also fading. You'll be moaning about there only being white sugar at the food kiosks next. Who lit the fuse on your tampon? Christ. I'm not stood at the front of the stand with a black bag full of tiny replica stands kicking them up MacLeod Street. My original question was whether it was the finished article and if it was just a plastic covering - so we've now established, thanks in part to you going bananas, is that it's actually a thin vinyl print, that'll be smoothed out to remove the apparent "creases" in it and then backlit with the electrics housed in the casing put up yesterday? Awesome. That was literally all I was after, just a bit of information. I think I've got about 11 posts on a 500 odd page thread so let's not be angling at me being one of the fizzers who's been on here for months going mental about things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 What CL actually said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaap's Sigh Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 The badge looks great but as another poster has mentioned there seems to be some creasing/bumfeling (sp) at the point of the badge. Hopefully this is rectified as my OCD couldn't cope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Barack said: Still might want some clubs off you in the new year, so I’m keeping you onside. LOL - happy to help! Liam is the man to beat next season with a new driver in the bag! I think I should ignore this thread until the stand is finished! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Sounds like we will be playing in front of 3 stands on the 5th with the new stand not housing supporters, would be my guest. They say they are determined to get the game on but kinda didn’t mention having the stand ready which is what makes me think we’d be happy to play with the new stand closed for the 5th. That’s only my take on it all, maybe be total non sense and un do able but that’s my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Better font size than the badge though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just now, busby1985 said: Sounds like we will be playing in front of 3 stands on the 5th with the new stand not housing supporters, would be my guest. They say they are determined to get the game on but kinda didn’t mention having the stand ready which is what makes me think we’d be happy to play with the new stand closed for the 5th. That’s only my take on it all, maybe be total non sense and un do able but that’s my guess. So an auction to decide who among season ticket holders gets a seat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, busby1985 said: Sounds like we will be playing in front of 3 stands on the 5th with the new stand not housing supporters, would be my guest. They say they are determined to get the game on but kinda didn’t mention having the stand ready which is what makes me think we’d be happy to play with the new stand closed for the 5th. That’s only my take on it all, maybe be total non sense and un do able but that’s my guess. Cant see that happening. It'll be 4 stands or it'll be murrayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, busby1985 said: Sounds like we will be playing in front of 3 stands on the 5th with the new stand not housing supporters, would be my guest. They say they are determined to get the game on but kinda didn’t mention having the stand ready which is what makes me think we’d be happy to play with the new stand closed for the 5th. That’s only my take on it all, maybe be total non sense and un do able but that’s my guess. Too many supporters to play in front of three stands If delayed it'll be at Murrayfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William H. Bonney Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: What CL actually said So basically, mibbes aye, mibbes naw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic Username Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Ask the same question but not on JKB; "It's a thick synthetic, like the material used on the roof of Oriam. It will be head sealed around the metal outline" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busby1985 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just now, Mikey1874 said: So an auction to decide who among season ticket holders gets a seat? Very good point haha. Murrayfield it is then. Sad face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Levein is just messing about the stand will be ready awbody calm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimthejambo Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 It is just a material that is stretched over the frame. When it’s finished and all the creases are out it will look great. Does appear to to be a nightmare to put up though. They get creases out of one part and they appear elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, busby1985 said: Very good point haha. Murrayfield it is then. It is a very tight timescale Need to send tickets out for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, jimthejambo said: It is just a material that is stretched over the frame. When it’s finished and all the creases are out it will look great. Does appear to to be a nightmare to put up though. They get creases out of one part and they appear elsewhere It looks great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl1965 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, Armageddon said: It's a vinyl print, back lit on clear shaped heart so the lighting can illuminate the badge - what's your isssue? Do you know how these things are designed and used? Any experience of graphics? Of were you expecting it to be cast from the ore extracted from the Royal Mile - then back lit through the iron. The best for a quality seemless finish - is the one we've installed. The best for illuminating from the rear - is the one we've installed. The best for longevity - is the one we've installed. The best for removing and replacing - is the one we've installed. The one on the old stand was fitted in 2 sections and you could see the split down the middle, it was also fading. You'll be moaning about there only being white sugar at the food kiosks next. ONLY WHITE SUGAR - RAGIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Is it 100 meters from try line to try line or does that include the space behind the goals where trys can be scored... The "Field of Play" is try line to try line - this is 100 metres. The in-goal (try scoring) area is a max 22 m but may be shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Mikey1874 said: It is a very tight timescale Need to send tickets out for example Yup and its for reasons such as that one that they will need to make a call sooner rather than later on it. Simple waiting up till the night before to make a call on where the game will be played isn't an option for reasons such as that. At some point in the next few days I'd imagine, someone is going to have to make a call on whether we will play the match at Tynie or Murrayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_hmfc Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Rudolf said: Small print bigger than what looks like at least 2 and a half foot lettering? Specsavers for you... 2 hours ago, No Wing Mirrors on Trains. said: No, no you haven't. "Oh no it's okay I found it, s-a-r-c-a-s-m." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, jimthejambo said: It is just a material that is stretched over the frame. When it’s finished and all the creases are out it will look great. Does appear to to be a nightmare to put up though. They get creases out of one part and they appear elsewhere We could iron it once a week, although i. knew somebody who ironed his curtains and fell out the windae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, jimthejambo said: It is just a material that is stretched over the frame. When it’s finished and all the creases are out it will look great. Does appear to to be a nightmare to put up though. They get creases out of one part and they appear elsewhere It will be all right on the night. I am sure whoever manufactured the sign has still to be paid in full (warranty period). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMFC86 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, King Of The Cat Cafe said: No: as long as it's at Murrayfield. staring at tickets already bought for travel on November 5 Yeah they will have to confirm soon. I’ve held off getting my travel organised until I know, what’s happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: It looks great Would look better without the crease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Old Castle Rock said: We could iron it once a week, although i. knew somebody who ironed his curtains and fell out the windae Add it to the multi-million pound window cleaning contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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