Unknown user Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Oh was it a joke then? Apologies if so - I read that much shite on here it's hard to tell the difference........... Oh I don't even know now! Ijust thought you were lashing out a bit, taking it a bit personally. Don't let it get to you and go back to being a poster I enjoy, if that's not too patronising. Your contribution is appreciated by right thinking Hearts fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coatbridgejambo Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Flats flats glorious flats.. oh wait nah we are getting a new main stand instead, delayed by 2 month, pain in the arse? Aye it is but worth the wait imo, could be worse, we could be playing at murrayfield permanently, relax. spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 The question you asked at the meet the manager event typifies you, panic merchant who doesn't listen to what is being said. I wasn't at the meet the management event?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) There is still a lot of water or steel to go under the bridge here I am no panic merchant but I know what can happen when things start to go wrong on a construction project I got 16/1 on the Wembley rebuild not being complete for the 2006 cup final when that was set as the completion date in the autumn of 2005. It was clear that there were still major issues then. It didn't open until the 2007 final. Of course this is no Wembley but it is a job with many challenges. Doesn't matter if everyone on site bleeds maroon, there is inherent optimism bias in on completion dates on construction programmes particularly when they start to drift. People make a living out of the consequences. Also, no offence, but having mostly jambo contractors on site doesn't equate to us having the best quality workforce on site. Anyway, time will tell ?18m and a 12 month build might seem like a bargain a year from now. Edited August 6, 2017 by Jammy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Curtainwall companies do not design the look of the facade, they can only install to the Architects specification.....but then again you'd need to be a idiot not to know that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 There is still a lot of water or steel to go under the bridge here I am no panic merchant but I know what can happen when things start to go wrong on a construction project I got 16/1 on the Wembley rebuild not being complete for the 2006 cup final when that was set as the completion date in the autumn of 2005. It was clear that there were still major issues then. It didn't open until the 2007 final. Of course this is no Wembley but it is a job with many challenges. Doesn't matter if everyone on site bleeds maroon, there is inherent optimism bias in on completion dates on construction programmes particularly when they start to drift. People make a living out of the consequences. Also, no offence, but having mostly jambo contractors on site doesn't equate to us having the best quality workforce on site. Anyway, time will tell ?18m and a 12 month build might seem like a bargain a year from now. Everything would've been ready for the 9th Sept apart the seats I think it was more than late seats that caused the delays with Wembley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 This is perhaps a lot better A bit more time now on certain things Not getting home advantage for 3 games but might actually help the players as we settle into the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Everything would've been ready for the 9th Sept apart the seats I think it was more than late seats that caused the delays with Wembley Yep - you didn't read the bit where I said this was no Wembley Different projects have their own challenges. Smaller projects aren't necessarily more straightforward - from Budges and Thomaso's own lips this one isn't. What other activities are being delayed by the seating - what contractors are involved? What other work have they got planned as they thought they'd have moved off site by then? Can they hang around? If they do, don't we have to pay their costs (answer we do) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) This is perhaps a lot better A bit more time now on certain things Not getting home advantage for 3 games but might actually help the players as we settle into the season. Those who opted for hospitality STs might end up getting a better deal out of it, given the suites wouldn't have been fully operational at first where as Murrayfield will. Think Budge said come the Killie game a few of the suites will be fully operational (unless they forget to order chairs - wouldn't put it past them). Edited August 6, 2017 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewboy Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 There is still a lot of water or steel to go under the bridge here I am no panic merchant but I know what can happen when things start to go wrong on a construction project I got 16/1 on the Wembley rebuild not being complete for the 2006 cup final when that was set as the completion date in the autumn of 2005. It was clear that there were still major issues then. It didn't open until the 2007 final. Of course this is no Wembley but it is a job with many challenges. Doesn't matter if everyone on site bleeds maroon, there is inherent optimism bias in on completion dates on construction programmes particularly when they start to drift. People make a living out of the consequences. Also, no offence, but having mostly jambo contractors on site doesn't equate to us having the best quality workforce on site. Anyway, time will tell ?18m and a 12 month build might seem like a bargain a year from now. http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-ready-go-to-work-on-tynecastle-s-new-main-stand-1-4287392Not far off 12 months for the first phase and maybe ?1-2m over initial estimates. Not bad all things considered! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Yep - you didn't read the bit where I said this was no Wembley Different projects have their own challenges. Smaller projects aren't necessarily more straightforward - from Budges and Thomaso's own lips this one isn't. What other activities are being delayed by the seating - what contractors are involved? What other work have they got planned as they thought they'd have moved off site by then? Can they hang around? If they do, don't we have to pay their costs (answer we do) Seats can go in anytime - they just get bolted on. Who does that I don't know, but I imagine we haven't got a group of workies whose sole job was to bolt the seats down (and are now sitting on their arse until the shipment arrives). It probably means more hands on deck elsewhere, particularly hospitality. Edited August 6, 2017 by kila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Nice sharp images. Used https://pixady.com to host them so no compression/resizing Though the trouble with using third party hosting is when folk look back on this thread in years time, a number of the photos won't be visible anymore Would like to see better forum image hosting here, that way the photos stay with JKB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Used https://pixady.com to host them so no compression/resizing Though the trouble with using third party hosting is when folk look back on this thread in years time, a number of the photos won't be visible anymore Would like to see better forum image hosting here, that way the photos stay with JKB I'm new to a paid sub on here but isn't image hosting part of it? Is it not good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Tarkin Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 They look shit. Aye they do, but I still like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Used https://pixady.com to host them so no compression/resizing Though the trouble with using third party hosting is when folk look back on this thread in years time, a number of the photos won't be visible anymore Would like to see better forum image hosting here, that way the photos stay with JKB You can upload directly to KB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I remain sceptical about the face caps (yes, I know what we see now isn't the final product). If I remember correctly, it was confirmed earlier in the thread that the caps between the light grey glazed panels will be the same colour as the caps between the clear class panels. I'm really not sure about that....... surely that's still going to result in the striped / grid type look? I'd have thought that the caps should be as invisible as possible. Caps between the grey glazed panels should be the very same grey colour that the panels are, and between the clear glass should be something like black I'd have thought. I'd have thought the aim would be to make the thing look as seamless as possible, no? Creating the illusion of one long piece of glass from Gorgie End to School End? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I wasn't at the meet the management event?? Yet you claimed to have asked a question at the event as per post 956 on that thread. Flogel14, on 09 May 2017 - 10:45 AM, said: This might have been discussed already, but the fan who tried to justify our past success in signing foreign players by mentioning Skacel and Fyssas. Yes these guys were great players and we would all love to have players of that calibre at the club nowadays, but getting players in like that on the wages they command nearly killed our club. Not their fault as individuals, but we can no longer recruit players outwith our means like that. I couldn't believe someone would actually bring that up! That was me Ok, Flogel, Bruno (Aguiar and Pascale), Rousset etc etc Wyness, Sutton, Nelson etc etc The point is "going British" guarantees **** all. Lazy lazy lazy argument that is wrong as much as it is lazy. Any team that we have had over the last 20 years that has had any success at all and/or played any kind of attractive "non-eye bleeding" football has had foreigners in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I wasn't at the meet the management event?? http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/169310-meet-the-management-event/page-20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jambo, Goodbye Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Busted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 What a numptie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/169310-meet-the-management-event/page-20I brought the point discussed in that post up earlier on that thread - re-read the thread. I wasn't at any meeting neither was Geoff who then agreed with my point. As continually gets pointed out I'm never anywhere near Tynecastle, particularly on a Monday evening when I've been working on central London all day... Edited August 7, 2017 by Jammy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Saw this photo on the FB group. What's interesting is that, looking at the distance and angle between the concourse and the touchline, you get a real sense here of the how the lower section will be a more shallower rake compared to other sections of the ground. I actually think this is a good part of the design, because from the TV gantry, you'll see more fans over that side of the pitch when the action is there...if you know what I mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegementality Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I brought the point discussed in that post up earlier on that thread - re-read the thread. I wasn't at any meeting neither was Geoff who then agreed with my point. As continually gets pointed out I'm never anywhere near Tynecastle, particularly on a Monday evening when I've been working on central London all day... Well I was at that event and that very question was asked by a guy, if memory serves, late 40's/early 50's, greyish hair, just about broke his neck to run up to get the mike from Scott Wilson. Couldn't have been you though cos you'd have been working in central London all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Gin Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Saw this photo on the FB group. What's interesting is that, looking at the distance and angle between the concourse and the touchline, you get a real sense here of the how the lower section will be a more shallower rake compared to other sections of the ground. I actually think this is a good part of the design, because from the TV gantry, you'll see more fans over that side of the pitch when the action is there...if you know what I mean? It's going to be barely noticeable. Edited August 7, 2017 by Ray Gin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Well I was at that event and that very question was asked by a guy, if memory serves, late 40's/early 50's, greyish hair, just about broke his neck to run up to get the mike from Scott Wilson. Couldn't have been you though cos you'd have been working in central London all day.I don't have grey hair mate Not yet Despite Hearts and despite JKB (and despite the missus). And I'm early 40s... I don't even know the question you are talking about and as one of the biggest blaws on here who doesn't give a **** what people think why would I lie? I'll PM you a photo of me if it sets your mind at ease I'd just need a tenner from you... Edited August 7, 2017 by Jammy T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JALBO Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Saw this photo on the FB group. What's interesting is that, looking at the distance and angle between the concourse and the touchline, you get a real sense here of the how the lower section will be a more shallower rake compared to other sections of the ground. I actually think this is a good part of the design, because from the TV gantry, you'll see more fans over that side of the pitch when the action is there...if you know what I mean? It's good to get back to pictures on this thread! The 4 degree difference in the gradient between the lower section and upper section will be discernible, but not dramatic - I think it'll still fit very well with the rest of the stadium. It'll be another wee factor amongst several (from inside the ground) that identify the main stand as the main stand. I think it'll also make for a very good seating and visual experience - much better than the flatter gradient that were there with the old lower N and T sections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I don't have grey hair mate Not yet Despite Hearts and despite JKB (and despite the missus). And I'm early 40s... I don't even know the question you are talking about and as one of the biggest blaws on here who doesn't give a **** what people think why would I lie? I'll PM you a photo of me if it sets your mind at ease I'd just need a tenner from you... I can think of another person who charges ten pounds for PMs and sends photos of themselves...but not necessarily of their face! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I can think of another person who charges ten pounds for PMs and sends photos of themselves...but not necessarily of their face! That was the point of the joke Don't worry siege it's free for you mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 That was the point of the joke You tossed that one up in the air for me to knock out of the park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammy T Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 You tossed that one up in the air for me to knock out of the park Aye I just needed to thwart the JammyT = Greenginger follow up chat.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Stand will look great. Still can't believe they ordered two escalators but forgot 6,000 seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
...a bit disco Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Anybody know about the dugouts? Apparently going to be 'sunken' I've heard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar the Horrible Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Stand will look great. Still can't believe they ordered two escalators but forgot 6,000 seats. Just make it a large standing section? They appeared to have forgoten filling in the corners as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellor Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Nice sharp images. I assume the glass wall frontage (as per pic below) has still to be added to mask all the office windows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I assume the glass wall frontage (as per pic below) has still to be added to mask all the office windows? 5-1 ya rocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I assume the glass wall frontage (as per pic below) has still to be added to mask all the office windows? This is an old artists impression - you need to refer to the latest version released by the Club a few months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Am I the only one who thinks the glass looks Sh!t? Not that I care that much, still an improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All roads lead to Gorgie Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Anybody know about the dugouts? Apparently going to be 'sunken' I've heard? Dugouts, dugouts; Quick someone order the dugouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kila Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Am I the only one who thinks the glass looks Sh!t? Not that I care that much, still an improvement. To me, it looks really good from the sides, not so much straight on. But given the budget and timescale, not that fussed about how pretty the outside is as long as the inside is top class (which I'm sure it will be). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I assume the glass wall frontage (as per pic below) has still to be added to mask all the office windows? Aye there'll be a ghost car zooming past too! Keep up ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) I assume the glass wall frontage (as per pic below) has still to be added to mask all the office windows? The same image posted earlier this morning on the .net thread about our brand new stand. Not even trying to hide. Edited August 7, 2017 by hughesie27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Anybody know about the dugouts? Apparently going to be 'sunken' I've heard? There won't be any, they'll be using a wee section of the stand IIRC Edited August 7, 2017 by ManMoth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Landmesser Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 There won't be any, they'll be using a wee section of the stand IIRCLike Old Trafford? Shteve will feel right at home... Sent from my FP2 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellor Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 This is an old artists impression - you need to refer to the latest version released by the Club a few months ago. Is this the most recent impression? If so, it's still described as a 'glass wall' but compared to the original artist's impression (which looks quite spectacular) that no longer seems to be the case. It's more like two rows of office windows with some cladding in between? http://seasontickets.heartsfc.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Is this the most recent impression? If so, it's still described as a 'glass wall' but compared to the original artist's impression (which looks quite spectacular) that no longer seems to be the case. It's more like two rows of office windows with some cladding in between? http://seasontickets.heartsfc.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucille's Thirsty Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Is this the most recent impression? If so, it's still described as a 'glass wall' but compared to the original artist's impression (which looks quite spectacular) that no longer seems to be the case. It's more like two rows of office windows with some cladding in between? http://seasontickets.heartsfc.co.uk/ Come on now when all of this is done our new main stand will be the best looking in Scotland and that includes Celtic and Rangers as theirs is more retro. I would mention Hibs but their main stand looks like an amazon warehouse, if you made you're way to Dunfermline you get a good idea why I would say that, it's like a replica of your main stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Great people are taking an interest Big club attracts people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romanov Stole My Pension Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Come on now when all of this is done our new main stand will be the best looking in Scotland and that includes Celtic and Rangers as theirs is more retro. I would mention Hibs but their main stand looks like an amazon warehouse, if you made you're way to Dunfermline you get a good idea why I would say that, it's like a replica of your main stand. To be honest the external brickwork at both Ibrox and Parkhead looks very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandylejambo Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I assume the glass wall frontage (as per pic below) has still to be added to mask all the office windows? it's nice of the people in the flats letting us put the badge on their wall, wouldn't get that down your way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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