HoGwash Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Not in the SPFL they won't Yes they will. Oops - way too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I thought it wasn't but obviously it's looking like I'm wrong. SPFL = Scottish Professional Football League Organisation encompassing both the Ladbrokes Premiership, Championship and Leagues 1 and 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Spackler Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I see somebody mentioning a Debit Card there earlier. Surely that's OK for Hearts? Or have I ballsed up when I renewed using my one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGF Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I see somebody mentioning a Debit Card there earlier. Surely that's OK for Hearts? Or have I ballsed up when I renewed using my one? Cash and cheque good. Card bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Spackler Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Cash and cheque good. Card bad. Baws. Sorry Hearts.I thought Debit would be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Cash and cheque good. Card bad. Is there much difference between the charges for a debit card and a cheque. I thought they were about the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Not in the SPFL they won't Yes, in the SPFL! They are in the SPFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I thought the 'SPFL' was the collective name for all the leagues. It is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffa Bacon Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Is there much difference between the charges for a debit card and a cheque. I thought they were about the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I thought it wasn't but obviously it's looking like I'm wrong. I didn't wonder for a moment if you had a major scoop regarding their financial position! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 How much capacity will we lose in segregation? I'm assuming a judgment will be made on how big a gap is required based on previous meetings between clubs ie bigger gap v Celtic, smaller gap v Killie. Cant wait for the season to start, it seems to have been ages since we played our last game. good question the first Rangers game crowd was still 17,000 despite segregation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Is there much difference between the charges for a debit card and a cheque. I thought they were about the same. Sorry I didn't understand!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf's Mate Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I didn't wonder for a moment if you had a major scoop regarding their financial position! Lol no. That's the thing about living away from Scotland. I pay virtually no notice of what's going on about anything other than Hearts. I thought that it was Scottish Premier Football League and thought I'd even heard it mentioned on beeb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Great take up rate but I'm still banging on about the club missing a trick re STs that aren't being used for games. No mention in the ST pack about gifting the ticket back to the club No online facility to allow people to do it easily without having to phone ( I realise that for some, phoning the club and doing so isn't an issue but for others it is) This was raised with David Southern back in Oct 2012 and nothings been done. I really don't see what the difficulty is. Time for an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddley Walker Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Great take up rate but I'm still banging on about the club missing a trick re STs that aren't being used for games. No mention in the ST pack about gifting the ticket back to the club No online facility to allow people to do it easily without having to phone ( I realise that for some, phoning the club and doing so isn't an issue but for others it is) This was raised with David Southern back in Oct 2012 and nothings been done. I really don't see what the difficulty is. Time for an email. I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure you can phone the club and request this on a game-by-game basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure you can phone the club and request this on a game-by-game basis. Yeah you can. The point I'm making and have been for ages, is that not everyone knows that. There has been no pro-active communication from the club to tell ST holders that this is something that can be easily done and highlighting the financial benefits to the club. I'm sure David Southern told me that there were around 400 tickets returned for one of the Hibs games that they could then re-sell. That's potentially a five figure sum! I'd like to see Hearts publicising it pro-actively and looking at how to make it really simple for people to do. That includes giving them at least a couple of options on how they d it i.e. phone/online/over the counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie_Rules Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Great take up rate but I'm still banging on about the club missing a trick re STs that aren't being used for games. No mention in the ST pack about gifting the ticket back to the club No online facility to allow people to do it easily without having to phone ( I realise that for some, phoning the club and doing so isn't an issue but for others it is) This was raised with David Southern back in Oct 2012 and nothings been done. I really don't see what the difficulty is. Time for an email. Totally agree. Out of the group I go to the games with there is usually always someone that cant make it due to work etc, it needs to be made easy for fans to put their seat up for sale, its potentially gifting the club an extra ?20+ Dont believe a company like Ticketmaster should find it too difficult to implement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Totally agree. Out of the group I go to the games with there is usually always someone that cant make it due to work etc, it needs to be made easy for fans to put their seat up for sale, its potentially gifting the club an extra ?20+ Dont believe a company like Ticketmaster should find it too difficult to implement What about giving the ticket holder a ?5 voucher to the shop if the seat is sold too so gives fans a bit of an incentive to let the ticket office know they cant make a game. Ideally we wouldnt have to give the voucher incentive but it is a win win if the seat is re-sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddley Walker Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Yeah you can. The point I'm making and have been for ages, is that not everyone knows that. There has been no pro-active communication from the club to tell ST holders that this is something that can be easily done and highlighting the financial benefits to the club. I'm sure David Southern told me that there were around 400 tickets returned for one of the Hibs games that they could then re-sell. That's potentially a five figure sum! I'd like to see Hearts publicising it pro-actively and looking at how to make it really simple for people to do. That includes giving them at least a couple of options on how they d it i.e. phone/online/over the counter. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 What about giving the ticket holder a ?5 voucher to the shop if the seat is sold too so gives fans a bit of an incentive to let the ticket office know they cant make a game. Ideally we wouldnt have to give the voucher incentive but it is a win win if the seat is re-sold Good idea, also means likely more money spent on merchandise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novoman Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Not pulling you up either, but for anyone who has not yet renewed, paying by cheque also saves the club money. I wrote my first cheque in ages yesterday. Renewed 2 today, paid by cheque .. Aaahh cheque the power of the pen .. PHM, lol A few more fans arrived while I was browsing the shop , also renewing season tickets . Onwards and upwards, looking forward to the new season .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 10,000 figure will encourage people too good result - decent value too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 How many season tickets can we actually sell,remembering a need to keep some for walk ups? Has the club announced the cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 H: 87 J: Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussAsia Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 How many season tickets can we actually sell,remembering a need to keep some for walk ups? Has the club announced the cap? I would assume that if we can sell out the 3 home stands plus H and J in the Roseburn then section K will be used for walk ups.. I don't know what that would add up to but i guess around 15400.. assuming that our capacity is around 17600.. Roseburn stand holds around 3600.. add in 1400 for sections H and J.. Please correct me if that seems wrong.. I guess there may be around 500-1000 for hospitality.. so maybe 14400 season tickets available.. Regarding segregation how much is actually needed? I remember being at Ibrox where there was only a McEwans lager sponsor sheet covering about 5 seats separating us from the home fans.. That would seem enough to me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkmmgcycbwc Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I would assume that if we can sell out the 3 home stands plus H and J in the Roseburn then section K will be used for walk ups.. I don't know what that would add up to but i guess around 15400.. assuming that our capacity is around 17600.. Roseburn stand holds around 3600.. add in 1400 for sections H and J.. Please correct me if that seems wrong.. I guess there may be around 500-1000 for hospitality.. so maybe 14400 season tickets available.. Regarding segregation how much is actually needed? I remember being at Ibrox where there was only a McEwans lager sponsor sheet covering about 5 seats separating us from the home fans.. That would seem enough to me.. A few years back at Ibrox I counted 3 empty rows plus one occupied by stewards (wonder who they were supporting?) and that was "segregation" in Murray's day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc-jambo Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Now: 83 in H 17 in Wheatfield (including 14 extra ones just released at the corner flag in G!) 7 in Main Stand none in Gorgie = 107 in total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 For anyone interested, myself, my dad and my laddie are all renewing in G on Monday. So there's another three confirmed ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 In regards to folk handing tickets back, as well as publicising it, maybe the club need to give an incentive to do so? Say for example that if your seat sells, you get a ?5 discount in the club shop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 In regards to folk handing tickets back, as well as publicising it, maybe the club need to give an incentive to do so? Say for example that if your seat sells, you get a ?5 discount in the club shop? The club only benefits from resales if the game is a sellout. If there are other seats available in the ground, then the purchaser could just as easily take up one of them. The exception being the possibility of a premium seat being repurchased rather than a cheaper seat, but the benefit is marginal, certainly not enough to justify a discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 H: 87 J: Gone Is it pretty much only K to sell then when the tickets are up for sale next week? Incedible if it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGF Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Is it pretty much only K to sell then when the tickets are up for sale next week? Incedible if it is. ...and ones that haven't been renewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
post221 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Myself and 3 of my kids just renewed for lower G.......circumstance dictates that debit card had to be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobreath Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Now: 14 extra ones just released at the corner flag in G!) They don't normally sell those ones in G, either because of a TV gantry just at the back of them, or wee bit too close to the away fans when Celtic or Hibs came calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Yeah you can. The point I'm making and have been for ages, is that not everyone knows that. There has been no pro-active communication from the club to tell ST holders that this is something that can be easily done and highlighting the financial benefits to the club. I'm sure David Southern told me that there were around 400 tickets returned for one of the Hibs games that they could then re-sell. That's potentially a five figure sum! I'd like to see Hearts publicising it pro-actively and looking at how to make it really simple for people to do. That includes giving them at least a couple of options on how they d it i.e. phone/online/over the counter. I have made my season ticket available a couple of times over the phone with no problem. I agree there should be some kind of awareness campaign about this facility. While I am on the subject I would just like to enquire why there is no similar facility for away match tickets. I had a ticket I was unable to use for the Rangers match at Ibrox. i didn't know anyone who wanted to go in my place and as I was unwilling to give the ticket to a stranger I thought i would hand the ticket into Tynecastle for the club to sell/give away. The girl in the TO was adamant that they could not take the ticket off me , even when I explained that I didn't want any money for it. The response I received on that occasion disappointed me. Surely they could have found a deserving person to take it. I was advised to send the ticket in to Rangers but it was too late for that anyway as up till a couple of days before the game I was still in a position to attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Robbo Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I don't have a cheque book. Don't think I've ever written one either. kids these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I think the Roseburn only holds about 3,400 nowadays, since the removal of row 1 in 2005. The 10,000 barrier will become a 13,000 barrier once we start signing players, although I'm glad the club is keeping one section for walk-ups. Tynecastle is going to be a home sell-out next season. Great news. I agree with the point that the club need to advertise that un-used ST seats can get given back to the club for re-sale. I did this a lot with my 'spare' ST seat last season, and I reckon the club made about ?200 from it from selling it back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 In regards to folk handing tickets back, as well as publicising it, maybe the club need to give an incentive to do so? Say for example that if your seat sells, you get a ?5 discount in the club shop? Great minds think alike - see my post at 2:40 today haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swanny17 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Great minds think alike - see my post at 2:40 today haha for myself! Genuinely didn't see your post bud! Maybe we should get a seat each on the board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavydavy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I think the Roseburn only holds about 3,400 nowadays, since the removal of row 1 in 2005. The 10,000 barrier will become a 13,000 barrier once we start signing players, although I'm glad the club is keeping one section for walk-ups. Tynecastle is going to be a home sell-out next season. Great news. I agree with the point that the club need to advertise that un-used ST seats can get given back to the club for re-sale. I did this a lot with my 'spare' ST seat last season, and I reckon the club made about ?200 from it from selling it back on. I wonder if the fact that the phase two season ticket sale starts on 10 June coincides with the date we can start registering players was intentional by the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Lol no. That's the thing about living away from Scotland. I pay virtually no notice of what's going on about anything other than Hearts. I thought that it was Scottish Premier Football League and thought I'd even heard it mentioned on beeb. It's entirely possible you did hear that on the beeb, there were a number of times during the season that I heard them talking about teams getting back up to the SPFL! It's fair enough for someone like you, a bit away from what's going on, but it's very poor from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 The club only benefits from resales if the game is a sellout. If there are other seats available in the ground, then the purchaser could just as easily take up one of them. The exception being the possibility of a premium seat being repurchased rather than a cheaper seat, but the benefit is marginal, certainly not enough to justify a discount. Unless we have a bad season, there are likely to be sellouts galore next season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 kids these days Adults these days too... most banks don't issue cheque books nowadays unless you specifically request one, and most people never have any need to request one! Cheques are very 20th century!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I wonder if the fact that the phase two season ticket sale starts on 10 June coincides with the date we can start registering players was intentional by the club? I'm not sure but last summer's signings were announced in a slick procession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Cash and cheque good. Card bad. A debit card payment is exactly the same as a cheque payment and the club is quite happy for you to pay for your ticket with one. I have checked this with senior management. What they don't want is for you to pay by credit card because the credit card company charges a fee, plus your payment is only released to Hearts in staged payments over the course of the football season, as we are still regarded as a bad credit risk. The reason for this is because, if you pay by credit card, the card company automatically insures you against the risk of the club not being able to deliver the service for which you have paid. If you pay by debit card, the money is transferred straight from your account to the club's - nothing is withheld and, if the club did go bust (unlikely!) you are on your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTweedy Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I wonder if the fact that the phase two season ticket sale starts on 10 June coincides with the date we can start registering players was intentional by the club? Phase two doesn't start until the 15th! Phase one pricing and renewals ends on the 10th, then the 11th, 12th and 13th are reserved for folk who have bought but would like to move seat to do so if there are any available that they'd prefer, and then phase two gets under way on Monday 15th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGF Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 A debit card payment is exactly the same as a cheque payment and the club is quite happy for you to pay for your ticket with one. I have checked this with senior management. What they don't want is for you to pay by credit card because the credit card company charges a fee, plus your payment is only released to Hearts in staged payments over the course of the football season, as we are still regarded as a bad credit risk. The reason for this is because, if you pay by credit card, the card company automatically insures you against the risk of the club not being able to deliver the service for which you have paid. If you pay by debit card, the money is transferred straight from your account to the club's - nothing is withheld and, if the club did go bust (unlikely!) you are on your own. I stand corrected. Looks like my raiding the the Gorgie ATMs was all for naught, although it did feel good strolling up to the ticket office with ?300 cash in hand. I only hope my seat grants a good view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartsfc_fan Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I paid by debit card, only because its tricky for me to get to Tynecastle on non-match days due to working 9-5. Glad using this method doesn't seem to cost the club any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d39HoM Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I paid by debit card, only because its tricky for me to get to Tynecastle on non-match days due to working 9-5. Glad using this method doesn't seem to cost the club any more. What kind of % are we talking about? I was under the (apparently misguided) impression that debit card was as good as cash. On a side note...absolutely buzzing for this season...Aberdeen at home first game please. HHGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of The Cat Cafe Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 A debit card payment is exactly the same as a cheque payment and the club is quite happy for you to pay for your ticket with one. I have checked this with senior management. What they don't want is for you to pay by credit card because the credit card company charges a fee, plus your payment is only released to Hearts in staged payments over the course of the football season, as we are still regarded as a bad credit risk. The reason for this is because, if you pay by credit card, the card company automatically insures you against the risk of the club not being able to deliver the service for which you have paid. If you pay by debit card, the money is transferred straight from your account to the club's - nothing is withheld and, if the club did go bust (unlikely!) you are on your own. Actually, as has been pointed out numerous times in this thread, there is a charge to the club for handling debit cards. "Visa has already announced its new interchange rates for UK debit cards to its members ? 0.2% of transaction value + 1 pence per transaction (capped at a total of 50p) for chip and pin transactions. These changes will take effect as of 1 March 2015. " For a transaction of above ?245, the charge is 50p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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