TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 He'll be much better when he's got Sturgeon beside him at PMQs and she can give him pointers. It isn't happening according to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Ooft. This is pretty good stuff. No coalition for labour. No deals for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasselhoff Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Ooft. This is pretty good stuff. No coalition for labour. No deals for them. Ed will change his tune if he gets the chance. Got this show recorded so will watch later but according to Twitter Cameron did well and Miliband said Labour didn't overspend when in power which didn't go down well. Sounds good!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Ed should really just have admitted the last Labour Party overspent Audience not buying this. He tried to step away from the Brown-Balls terror when he had Johnson as Shadow Chancellor. When he stepped down that chance at a reboot went. The chart above where debt was rising during the noughties says it all. That size of structural deficit and enormous structural size of the public sector meant the debt ballooning was inevitable when the economy turned down. It also makes it incredibly difficult to reduce the size of the public sector. The SNP are finding favour with a policy which says that they will oppose any reduction in any area subject to Barnett consequential. Incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Ed will change his tune if he gets the chance. Got this show recorded so will watch later but according to Twitter Cameron did well and Miliband said Labour didn't overspend when in power which didn't go down well. Sounds good!! He repeated it over and over. Tory specs off Cameron did do well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Did Sturgeon win this even though she wasn't there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Did Sturgeon win this even though she wasn't there?she is in after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 It isn't happening according to that. Ach, mag, i know you're a purist, but these politicians! Boy, sometimes they say stuff to garner votes and then, well, i'll be darned if they don't just go and do the opposite anyway. A lab-lib coalition isn't utterly impossible, but it would go the way of ol yeller pretty damn fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 He repeated it over and over. Tory specs off Cameron did do well did well. Still don't like or trust him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Not watching but did Mr Ed really say he would prefer a Tory government to working with the SNP ? Talk about putting the final nail in labour in Scotland . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Not watching but did Mr Ed really say he would prefer a Tory government to working with the SNP ? Talk about putting the final nail in labour in Scotland . He did Second Election on the cairds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Not watching but did Mr Ed really say he would prefer a Tory government to working with the SNP ? Talk about putting the final nail in labour in Scotland . He said he'd rather not be in government than do deals with a party who wants Britain to fail. Country over party. Good man. Respect him for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trapper John Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Great to watch a debate without goggle-eyed SNP supporters in the audience shouting down the opposition. Civilised people, the English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieh Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Nick Smegg is a narcissist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trapper John Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 He said he'd rather not be in government than do deals with a party who wants Britain to fail. Country over party. Good man. Respect him for that. Has the House of Commons shop got a frozen section? You''ll find 59 SNP MP's camped there for five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Ach, mag, i know you're a purist, but these politicians! Boy, sometimes they say stuff to garner votes and then, well, i'll be darned if they don't just go and do the opposite anyway. A lab-lib coalition isn't utterly impossible, but it would go the way of ol yeller pretty damn fast. That performance would be hard to come back from though. It'd be pretty embarrassing if he reversed that speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Has the House of Commons shop got a frozen section? You''ll find 59 SNP MP's camped there for five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gordons Gloves Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Great to watch a debate without goggle-eyed SNP supporters in the audience shouting down the opposition. Civilised people, the English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Did Clegg just say "swivelled eye brigade"?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2NaFish Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 That performance would be hard to come back from though. It'd be pretty embarrassing if he reversed that speech. History would see it as far more embarrassing if he gave up his chance at being PM. Is there a situation where they can limp over the line with the lib dems? Anyway, i still say he's playing hardball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 He's right though. Watching QT from Scotchland is just a shout-a-thon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 "Have you got a plan for next week when you become unemployed and your party becomes an irrelevance?" "Charming" This is glorious viewing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gordons Gloves Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 He's right though. Watching QT from Scotchland is just a shout-a-thon i confess to not having seen QT for quite some time. Although i did see the clip of that crazy guy on one during the referendum who was on about jesus and stuff defending the union. That was in Scotland though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddiemac Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 He said he'd rather not be in government than do deals with a party who wants Britain to fail. Country over party. Good man. Respect him for that. it's that bloody mi5 again ,my mate told me he read it on wos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Tbh that guy could have just shouted that outside at Clegg as he left the building. National TV program to put a point across to a leader of a party to hear honest(ish) answers, and he says that. It was amusing, but someone else could've had a more pertinent point to put to Clegg. True but it's inappropriateness made me laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Outstanding song lyrically that is from a group of buskers about this years election.Seems it has struck a chord with electors, good on um. "A troupe of roving British buskers have shot to fame on Facebook after a radical protest song struck a chord with voters preparing to elect the country's next government on 7 May. The group Phat? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32537891 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiewave Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Nick Smegg is a narcissist. Childish name-calling. This is what Scotland has become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibrahim Tall Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I hadn't realised every country in the EU was leaving, doesn't really seem much of a point in leaving if everyone else is before us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I hadn't realised every country in the EU was leaving, doesn't really seem much of a point in leaving if everyone else is before us. I was all for leaving until I heard we were ninth in the queue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Oh clegg. I know I'm bias but killed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Oh clegg. I know I'm bias but killed it.He did pretty well considering he got a bit of a pasting at the start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Miliband's knows that the Tories have done a good job of scaring the English that the SNP will cause havoc in a Lab-Nat pact. He's terrified of a late swing to Tory so he has to distance himself from any notion of such a pact. Labour are slipping and sliding around with no credible plan to form a government. In fact he's now admitting the Labour party will not govern after the election. An utterly shambolic state to get in. More ConDem then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Deflection and whataboutery. Can you answer the question please? I'll let you go first chief. Your mob are in power and turning a blind eye (encouraging) wholesale corporate tax avoidance. Whataboutery your way out of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Did I just hear Nicola clearly state that this election is in no way connected to independence? Dave, Nick, Ed and co must have got that wrong. Or lied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rand Paul's Ray Bans Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 Childish name-calling. This is what Scotland has become. You have no idea what Scotland is actually like as you you ****ed off to Spain years ago. Your self-loathing has no power here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'll let you go first chief. Your mob are in power and turning a blind eye (encouraging) wholesale corporate tax avoidance. Whataboutery your way out of that. they could do more about it. Straight question though that you've refused to engage with - Why did the SNP give ?10m to a company who pays no tax here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trapper John Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) You have no idea what Scotland is actually like as you you messed off to Spain years ago. Your self-loathing has no power here. A bit of an odd and insular view when you have Liberty not Hillary on your signature... Edited April 30, 2015 by Trapper John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rand Paul's Ray Bans Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 A bit of an odd and insular view when you have Liberty not Hillary on your signature... Scotland is not some apocalyptic wasteland as Gorgiewave makes out (or would like it to be). I'm calling out bullshit. He's completely given up on Scotland on the basis of one (possible) election result. A majority of the Scottish people haven't given up on Britain despite probably not getting election results they've desired over the years. Maybe he could learn something from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) "Mr Milliband, would you like to be PM" "No, I hate the jocks so much I'd rather never be PM" So all the (English) Westminster parties have decided to exclude all SNP MPs from everything? That'll save their precious union right enough. British citizens electing British MPs to sit in the British parliament but being blackballed because the big parties don't like them. Edited April 30, 2015 by Cade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Scotland is not some apocalyptic wasteland as Gorgiewave makes out (or would like it to be). I'm calling out bullshit. He's completely given up on Scotland on the basis of one (possible) election result. A majority of the Scottish people haven't given up on Britain despite probably not getting election results they've desired over the years. Maybe he could learn something from them. I haven't and it is going to be proper ugly Friday morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMac Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 "Mr Milliband, would you like to be PM" "No, I hate the jocks so much I'd rather never be PM" :ayeright: it is called a minority government. If the snp want to bring it down that is up to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 "Mr Milliband, would you like to be PM" "No, I hate the jocks so much I'd rather never be PM" :ayeright: Or more like, "Yes and those stupid jocks have already said that I've got their 50 something MPs in the bag". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trapper John Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Scotland is not some apocalyptic wasteland as Gorgiewave makes out (or would like it to be). I'm calling out bullshit. He's completely given up on Scotland on the basis of one (possible) election result. A majority of the Scottish people haven't given up on Britain despite probably not getting election results they've desired over the years. Maybe he could learn something from them. I get the impression on this thread that because he happens to live in Spain, somehow he is unentitled to have an opinion on what's happening at home. By the way, I haven't given up on Britain though there are two governments in place that I don't want or voted for and despise equally. Edited April 30, 2015 by Trapper John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 [emoji38] they could do more about it. Straight question though that you've refused to engage with - Why did the SNP give ?10m to a company who pays no tax here? Jobs. Unless you live in a vacuum, Fife is a shit hole and an unemployment blackspot. The site was assumed by Amazon attracted by sweetners. So Vodafone, HSBC, BP. How much dough is being denied to the exchequer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 That's the price you pay for trying to be honest and provide a clear picture of your intentions to the voters... instead of dealing in ambiguous language and half truths And chicanery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trapper John Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Jobs. Unless you live in a vacuum, Fife is a shit hole and an unemployment blackspot. The site was assumed by Amazon attracted by sweetners. So Vodafone, HSBC, BP. How much dough is being denied to the exchequer? Extremely Tory point of view you have. Expediency and snobbery all in one together. Where's that re-distribution policy by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rand Paul's Ray Bans Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 I get the impression on this thread that because he happens to live in Spain, somehow he is unentitled to have an opinion on what's happening at home. By the way, I haven't given up on Britain though there are two governments in place that I do't want or voted for and despise equally. No one has said he isn't entitled to an opinion of what's happening here. Everyone else is entitled to tell him he's talking shite, if they so wish, also. Good to hear, Trapper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rand Paul's Ray Bans Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 I haven't and it is going to be proper ugly Friday morning going by the campaigns so far, it's going to be a bumpy few years, not just Friday morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trapper John Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 No one has said he isn't entitled to an opinion of what's happening here. Everyone else is entitled to tell him he's talking shite, if they so wish, also. Good to hear, Trapper. Anyone else can, not everyone. Some may agree with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaganator Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 "Mr Milliband, would you like to be PM" "No, I hate the jocks so much I'd rather never be PM" So all the (English) Westminster parties have decided to exclude all SNP MPs from everything? That'll save their precious union right enough. British citizens electing British MPs to sit in the British parliament but being blackballed because the big parties don't like them. Erm they haven't excluded them. You can't stand in 8% of seats & demand a seat in government. Ed has said he'll lead a minority government. If you want to make that more likely vote labour, Don't waste your vote on a party that want the country to fail and can never form a government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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