vegas-voss Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 6-2 again it's workrate for GGG one nice shot from Canelo but that's it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Interesting fight. I think Canelo might be the smarter boxer but GGG is relentless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 5-2 for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 7-2 Canelo looking tired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Canelo still looks dangerous and is harder than coffin nails. GGG has to be well on top though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Interesting fight. I think Canelo might be the smarter boxer but GGG is relentless.Canelo technically def the better of the two but it's not enough to win the rounds it is just a little burst each round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I'm not seeing any power in Canelo's punches now. He's throwing but there's nothing behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Best round for Canelo but he could no sustain it but I would maybe give it to him so 7-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Canelo again but he needs the knockout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 7-4 at best for Canelo. Last round - here we go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Golovkin won by 3 atleast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just never had the power to trouble GGG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Hell of a last round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Got to give the last to Canelo. Has to be a win for GGG overall though. Great fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Brilliant fight, 2 great fighters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 A joke result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Shocking scoring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Shocking decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 118-110 Canelo? WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 118-110 Canelo? WTF? Outrageous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 What the ****ing hell is the female judge on? That is absolutely insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Absolute nonsense especially that first judge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why boxing is now a joke sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) This is the stuff that does no good for boxing Edited September 17, 2017 by vegas-voss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 It's a rematch and more money for everyone i suppose but how anyone can look at that decision and not wonder what the hell just happened is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppleTarts Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 118-110 Canelo Easy Golovkin win for me, bizarre result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Money judging. As in another fight makes more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Canelo thought he won at least 7 rounds no way Edited September 17, 2017 by vegas-voss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 GGG shows a lot of class in refusing to state the obvious. Canelo slightly deluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Money judging. As in another fight makes more money.Pretty much none of them even look that bothered by the draw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Used to like Canelo but wtf is he on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 this is rotten, what a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/11/24/13738184/top-rank-take-issue-nac-assigning-adalaide-byrd-to-judge-lomachenko-walters-boxing-news Having concern over the athletic commissions? appointments of judges and referees is nothing new in combat sports. From an MMA perspective, Jon Jones wasn?t too keen on John McCarthy reffing his (obviously cancelled) UFC 200 rematch with Daniel Cormier, but the Nevada Athletic Commission appointed him anyway. In the world of boxing, with the big Vasyl Lomachenko (6-1, 4 KOs) vs. Nicholas Walters (30-0-1, 24 KOs) showdown just two days away, executives at Top Rank, which promotes both fighters, have voiced their concern over the appointment of a judge who?s well known to both boxing and MMA fans. Top Rank VP of Boxing Operations, Carl Moretti, told BoxingScene that the promotion requested to the Nevada Athletic Commission that Adalaide Byrd not be one of the ringside judges for this fight, but they didn?t get their wish granted. ?We respectfully requested that Adalaide Byrd not be assigned to this fight,? Moretti said. ?From there it went on to a conversation [with NSAC executive director Bob Bennett] about how she is a good judge. Some judges can have good nights and can have bad nights. But when she has bad nights, she seems to be too far away from the score. Bob defended her left and right. He didn?t wanna listen to our objection.? Byrd has a bit of a reputation for turning in ... interesting scorecards, whether in MMA or boxing. Some of her notable moments include: Awarding Leonard Garcia a completely baffling 29-28 victory over Nam Phan in their first meeting in 2010, which Garcia won by split decision. Turning in a 30-27 scorecard in favor of Melvin Guillard against Jamie Varner, who wound up winning the fight on the strength of the other two judges scoring it 30-27 for him. Scoring a 10-round shutout win for Jose Benavidez Jr. over Francisco Santana this past July, when most observers (and the other two judges) had it considerably closer than that. Scoring Gerald Washington a 97-93 winner over Amir Mansour in October 2015, which led to a split draw outcome that was seemingly a win for Mansour. Having Jessie Magdaleno up 118-110 in his unanimous decision win over Nonito Donaire on the undercard of this month?s Pacquiao vs. Vargas pay-per-view. It was perceived as an extremely wide scorecard for an otherwise close fight with a clear winner. The Benavidez-Santana and Magdaleno-Donaire were among several boxing matches cited by Moretti when they objected to Byrd being on Lomachenko-Walters. Alas, no dice for them, and Moretti ripped into the NAC for the process they?ve put in place. ?The whole process kind of feels like a joke because the Nevada commission sends out lists of officials and asks if you object to them,? Moretti said. ?Then, when you object to them, you have to provide written documentation as to why. And when I did provide documentation of several scores she was off on and fights she was off on, he rejected that. So I said, ?Well, then what?s the purpose of going through this whole process and wasting everybody?s time? If you ask for written documentation and don?t wanna read what?s in front of you or you don?t wanna believe it, what?s the point?? We got into a heated discussion. It?s sort of like, ?We?re here to preserve democracy, but not practice it.? ? For the record, the other judges on Lomachenko vs. Walters are Burt Clements and Glenn Trowbridge, both of whom had Andre Ward narrowly defeating Sergey Kovalev by a 114-113 scoreline in last week?s HBO PPV main event. While Lomachenko has won his last 3 fights by KO, his 2014 126 lbs world title win over Gary Russell Jr. did have an odd 114-114 draw turned in by Lisa Giampa, which made a fairly obvious win seem more close than it actually was. As for Walters, the lone non-win on his record came in his last fight against current WBA ?regular? 130 lbs champion Jason Sosa, whom he fought to a majority draw in upstate New York. The one judge who didn?t score it a draw had it for Sosa, which was more indefensible than the already indefensible draw scores conjured up by the other judges. Oh, boxing. Bloody Elbow will have live, round-by-round coverage of Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Nicholas Walters on Saturday, November 26th. The card airs live on HBO Boxing, with the broadcast kicking off at 10:35 PM ET. For more boxing coverage, check out Bad Left Hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Adelaide Byrd is either off her head or suspicious. She has previous for this sort of thing apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 #AdalaideByrd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Had ?400 on Golovkin. Feeling rather sore at the minute.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 It's a rematch and more money for everyone i suppose but how anyone can look at that decision and not wonder what the hell just happened is beyond me. [quote name="cosanostra" post="6260991" The second that ridiculous 118-110 score was announced I thought we were getting the draw for a rematch. Scandalous decision. After the McGregor mayweather farce this was an opportunity for boxing to show what a real fight was and we get that joke of a decision. Still, rematch it is. Btw kudos to Boxnation for showing a backdrop of Amir Khan getting knocked spark out by Canelo as he was giving his comments on the fight.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosanostra Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Had ?400 on Golovkin. Feeling rather sore at the minute.. Daaaaaaaamn mate. That's a kick in the nuts. Scandalous really but obviously, nothing ever happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Won't be watching any rematch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 There wont be a rematch. Guarantee Alvarez pulls out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 WWE is more legit than this farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 What I dont get is why 118-110. If she gives Alvarez it by 1 i could maybe understand but 8??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 https://twitter.com/hashtag/Canelo?src=tren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irufushi Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Had ?400 on Golovkin. Feeling rather sore at the minute.. Ouch! Had 50 on tko/ko for ggg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 That 118-110 scorecard has been put together by someone who decided the result before the fight took place. I've thought for a while now that the system of judging in boxing is archaic and needs a massive overhaul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Just watched that - 118-110 ? Nonsense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Guns Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) Boxings biggest night and that happens. Ridiculous. The Teddy Atlas clips doing the rounds on social media are hard to argue with. Edited September 17, 2017 by Sten Guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Turn Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Missed the fight live as I couldn't stay awake but just finished watching it. It was a close fight imo, GGG was clearly the one coming forward, the aggressor, he threw a lot more punches, he landed a lot more punches but a lot of them were jabs that never bothered Canelo. Canelo was more accurate with his punches and landed more big hits on Golovkin than GGG did on him and they were cleaner hits. Canelo lands more big hits in 8 of the rounds than Golovkin did so if the judge was marking him on that, that's where he's getting 118-110 from. I'd have had it down as a draw having watched it, GGG maybe just edges it slightly having landed more. Very tough one to call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogsy Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Missed the fight live as I couldn't stay awake but just finished watching it. It was a close fight imo, GGG was clearly the one coming forward, the aggressor, he threw a lot more punches, he landed a lot more punches but a lot of them were jabs that never bothered Canelo. Canelo was more accurate with his punches and landed more big hits on Golovkin than GGG did on him and they were cleaner hits. Canelo lands more big hits in 8 of the rounds than Golovkin did so if the judge was marking him on that, that's where he's getting 118-110 from. I'd have had it down as a draw having watched it, GGG maybe just edges it slightly having landed more. Very tough one to call. Agree with this totally. Personally had Canelo edging it slightly but can't argue with a draw. All the calls of a robbery etc. are ridiculous. Canelo far better defensively and landed the cleaner shots, Golovkin with more volume and relentless pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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