Boxing and UFC

[Sten Guns]

google is your friend

Google also tells me Tu Pac is alive, man didn't go to the moon, 9/11 was an inside job and the earth is actually flat.

 

GTF man.

[Samuel Camazzola]

Google also tells me Tu Pac is alive, man didn't go to the moon, 9/11 was an inside job and the earth is actually flat.

 

GTF man.

I don't think you need Google to tell you man didn't go to the moon...

[Masonic]

[Rab]

Terence Crawford fighting Julius Indongo for the undisputed title tonight. No one is giving Indongo a chance.

 

If Crawford does win he'll be the first undisputed champ since 2004, and you can't say he doesn't deserve it, there's no one at 140 in his league.

[Masonic]

Terence Crawford fighting Julius Indongo for the undisputed title tonight. No one is giving Indongo a chance.

 

If Crawford does win he'll be the first undisputed champ since 2004, and you can't say he doesn't deserve it, there's no one at 140 in his league.

 

would be nice if he moved up and fought one time keith thurman

[Generic Username]

Less than a week now until the super fight/spectacle/freakshow(delete as appropriate). The closer it gets the more convinced it'll play out as follows;

 

McGregor to come flying out the first two rounds, desperate to land a knockout blow, then being gassed.

Floyd to mug him off for 12 rounds and take it via a unanimous decision.

[Masonic]

buzzing for conor fight the hypes gaining momentum

[Ribble]

Less than a week now until the super fight/spectacle/freakshow(delete as appropriate). The closer it gets the more convinced it'll play out as follows;

 

McGregor to come flying out the first two rounds, desperate to land a knockout blow, then being gassed.

Floyd to mug him off for 12 rounds and take it via a unanimous decision.

 

I hope this is exactly how it goes tbh, I really hope this is the one and only crossover fight between professional boxing and MMA.

[Tazio]

Less than a week now until the super fight/spectacle/freakshow(delete as appropriate). The closer it gets the more convinced it'll play out as follows;

 

McGregor to come flying out the first two rounds, desperate to land a knockout blow, then being gassed.

Floyd to mug him off for 12 rounds and take it via a unanimous decision.

 

My ideal would be for Mayweather drop him in the first 30 seconds for exactly an 8 count and then humiliate him for several rounds before dropping him in the last 30 seconds of the last round. 

[AlimOzturk]

I hope this is exactly how it goes tbh, I really hope this is the one and only crossover fight between professional boxing and MMA.

If he loses badly it will be. If he gives it a good go and lose it might still be. If he wins though...

 

People don't know how badly Diaz roughed him up in the boxing department. Can only imagine what one of the best boxers of all time will do.

[Sten Guns]

Do you really think McGregor will gas? I'm not so sure. 5 minutes of MMA is totally different to 3 minutes of boxing.

 

I think his gas tank will be fine. His boxing skills compared to Floyds boxing skills is where the real issue will be. Not fitness.

 

All in my opinion anyway.

[Ivan Drago]

Still expect Mayweather to win on points, a decision that will have been agreed beforehand

[Rocco_Jambo]

Do you really think McGregor will gas? I'm not so sure. 5 minutes of MMA is totally different to 3 minutes of boxing.

 

I think his gas tank will be fine. His boxing skills compared to Floyds boxing skills is where the real issue will be. Not fitness.

 

All in my opinion anyway.

 

The gulf in boxing skills is the main reason he'll probably gas.

 

Presumably his plan will be to start fast, have a high output early doors and try and get Mayweather out of his comfort zone and try and hurt him early doors because he knows he can't outbox him.

 

I doubt he'll bother throwing jabs and run the risk of getting countered so presumably most of his shots are going to be power punches he'll be trying to load up on. He'll be lucky to have an accuracy of much above 10% with power punches. Having 8 or 9 of every 10 of his power punches hit fresh air or glance off shoulders will tire him out pretty quick and I can't see him (or many boxers) keeping that up for more than half the fight.

[Judge Fudge]

The gulf in boxing skills is the main reason he'll probably gas.

 

Presumably his plan will be to start fast, have a high output early doors and try and get Mayweather out of his comfort zone and try and hurt him early doors because he knows he can't outbox him.

 

I doubt he'll bother throwing jabs and run the risk of getting countered so presumably most of his shots are going to be power punches he'll be trying to load up on. He'll be lucky to have an accuracy of much above 10% with power punches. Having 8 or 9 of every 10 of his power punches hit fresh air or glance off shoulders will tire him out pretty quick and I can't see him (or many boxers) keeping that up for more than half the fight.

Spot on.

He's also used to fighting less rounds, different mentality required for this one. Mayweather will take him into deep water, don't think McGregor will handle the mental side of going potentially 12 rounds. And floyd will expose that early. One of the main differences at the top level between the two sports is that the mma fighters go in pumped up for a quick result either way. Think floyd might toy with him for six or seven then drop him with body shots. Or win by dq.

[Generic Username]

Do you really think McGregor will gas? I'm not so sure. 5 minutes of MMA is totally different to 3 minutes of boxing.

 

I think his gas tank will be fine. His boxing skills compared to Floyds boxing skills is where the real issue will be. Not fitness.

 

All in my opinion anyway.

If he goes all out for the first couple of rounds, there's every chance he'll be like Joshua was in his fight with Klitschko, and need a few rounds to level himself out again. I don't think there's any part of the McGregor game plan that involves going the distance or out-pointing Floyd.

 

How Floyd deals with the inevitable early onslaught will be interesting.

 

What will potentially save McGregor's tank from emptying though is the lack of energy he'll expel from not throwing constant leg kicks, on top of the volume of punches he throws. The whole thing is going to be very intriguing.

[moogsy]

The closer this gets the more I can't see any result other than a Mayweather KO. The 8oz gloves will be far more of a benefit to Mayweather, it's what he's fought in for the vast majority of his fights and the volume and precision of punches he will land are going to cause serious issues for McGregor. The way Mayweather operates he would never agree to changing the glove size if he thought it was going to cause him any significant issues.

 

I also can't see Mayweather fighting again after this so he's likely to be far less cautious about injuring his hands. Hopefully we might see a return to his 'Pretty Boy Floyd' days. I can see this fight playing out something like his fight against Diego Corrales; physically a much bigger guy who was meant to cause him all sorts of problems but who Floyd ended up dropping numerous times on his way to a TKO in the later rounds.

Edited August 22, 2017 by moogsy

[Jeff]

Is Gervonta Davis on the undercard? The kid is special and Floyd is mentoring him

[Rocco_Jambo]

Is Gervonta Davis on the undercard? The kid is special and Floyd is mentoring him

 

He is. In a crap fight though.

[Jeff]

He is. In a crap fight though.

Hes still really good to watch. Quick as lightening.

[Rocco_Jambo]

Hes still really good to watch. Quick as lightening.

 

Looks a pretty meaningless fight though against a guy who hasn't really fought anyone. But I suppose they're not going to spend money on a decent opponent since the farce main event sells the PPV anyway.

 

Cleverley v Badou Jack looks only decent fight on undercard.

[AlimOzturk]

Isn't Tyson's fury's brother fighting Joseph Parker later in the year ad well?

 

Is he any good because Parker is no mug

[ZeroHour]

Still expect Mayweather to win on points, a decision that will have been agreed beforehand

I hardly think Merryweather is going to need to fix the scorecards vs some unskilled irish drunktank wrestler. This fight seemingly gives legitimacy to a 'sport' that generally consists of braindead cavemen humping each other in a cage.

[Generic Username]

Tell us more about McGregor's wrestling pedigree...

[Tazio]

I read a report today claiming that

MacGregor will put on up to 12 pounds between the weigh in and the fight as he has apparently done this before. If he does go down the route of cutting to get to the required weight it will be a drain physically that won't be of any use in a boxing match. He will certainly be heavier than Mayweather but this practice isn't something boxers do as they know that messing with your body so severely before a fight isn't wise.

[ZeroHour]

I read a report today claiming that

MacGregor will put on up to 12 pounds between the weigh in and the fight as he has apparently done this before. If he does go down the route of cutting to get to the required weight it will be a drain physically that won't be of any use in a boxing match. He will certainly be heavier than Mayweather but this practice isn't something boxers do as they know that messing with your body so severely before a fight isn't wise.

You must be joking. There's barely a boxer that doesn't drain & rehydrate up.

[vegas-voss]

I read a report today claiming that

MacGregor will put on up to 12 pounds between the weigh in and the fight as he has apparently done this before. If he does go down the route of cutting to get to the required weight it will be a drain physically that won't be of any use in a boxing match. He will certainly be heavier than Mayweather but this practice isn't something boxers do as they know that messing with your body so severely before a fight isn't wise.

Mayweather thinks Conor looks 10lb overweight limit just now

[Tazio]

You must be joking. There's barely a boxer that doesn't drain & rehydrate up.

Not to that extreme level.

[ZeroHour]

Not to that extreme level.

12lb is about average for junior mw. Canelo & Chavez Jr have done close to 2stone.

Edited August 22, 2017 by ZeroHour

[cosanostra]

Jon Jones - please say it's not true.

Gutted.

[vegas-voss]

Jon Jones - please say it's not true.

Gutted.

Certainly looks like it's true.Guess Mark Hunt was right when he gave him no credit for the win

[cosanostra]

Certainly looks like it's true.Guess Mark Hunt was right when he gave him no credit for the win

 

Trying to keep an open mind for the guy as I find it hard to believe that he would cheat on purpose.

I just don't think that's what he'd do, this time around at least.

Very classy response from DC.

[vegas-voss]

Trying to keep an open mind for the guy as I find it hard to believe that he would cheat on purpose.

I just don't think that's what he'd do, this time around at least.

Very classy response from DC.

Aye very dignified from Cormier

[cosanostra]

I'm the opposite probably one of the least surprising fails of test. Up there with Lesnar at getting popped.

 

He has already been done once for a failure.

 

There have been numerous rumours for a long time about his ped useage.

 

He has tested positive for recreational drugs and readily admits to Caning it, even in run up to fights.

 

He was involved in a hit and run whilst stoned.

 

I think it's fair to say the guy likes the drugs!

 

He may be an exceptional fighter but he has continually shown questionable judgement and penchant for repeating mistakes.

 

I'd like to think he learned from his previous but that doesn't seem to be how he works.

 

Hope I'm wrong and some **** up testing or something, as otherwise I imagine we will never see him in the cage again.

 

Should just make a match for him and lesnar at let the pair juice up to the gills!!!

 

 

His previous ban was for an oestrogen blocker from a gas station generic brand viagra. Not exactly performance enhancing.

His explanation was accepted and found to be true by USADA so although he clearly likes drugs, he's never been popped for a steroid, which this is apparently.

Hard to know what to believe.

[Sten Guns]

This Jon Jones situation makes absolutely no sense to me.

 

I think there will be a reasonable explanation.

[RustyRightPeg]

Cant believe Jones. As you will see by the way I hyped him up before the Cormier rematch I'm a massive fan. If it is all true, I'm gutted.

[Gavsy Van Gaverson]

His previous ban was for an oestrogen blocker from a gas station generic brand viagra. Not exactly performance enhancing.

His explanation was accepted and found to be true by USADA so although he clearly likes drugs, he's never been popped for a steroid, which this is apparently.

Hard to know what to believe.

Viagra certainly is performance enhancing

[Masonic]

joke like bones could have done anything in the sport even moved up and won heavyweight too but hes fkd it now they will ban him for a couple years so much for the brock or stipe fight

[cosanostra]

Viagra certainly is performance enhancing

I was waiting for someone to say that. I regretted that one as soon as i posted it.

[cosanostra]

It was on the banned list so he broke the rules. Irrespective of it being performance enhancing or not, though it's on list for a reason, he received a ban for it. Whilst the use of estrogen blockers often goes hand in hand with steroid use.

As an aside amazing how many fit and young professional athletes need dick pills!!!

You admit he clearly like the drugs. Why you and others are surprised, surprises me. Anyway the only thing we do know he's flagged for a failed drug test; again.

Turinabol is what's being reported as being poped for.

Maybe brock v jones happens at wrestle mania!

I'm not 100% convinced he's consciously tried to cheat this time or last time.

Did you hear his reason for the duck pills on his long form Rogan interview? It sounded feasible I guess but it was accepted and ratified by USADA hence the 1yr ban.

To take a single oral dose of an anabolic steroid, the day before a fight makes absolutely no sense. It would have no effect or benefit to take it as apparently, it takes some time and repeated use for the drug to build up enough to start to work.

A single dose, after weighing in, with no possible benefit seems completely pointless.

Hard to know what to think.

[cosanostra]

I have heard the jones podcast, though I can't say I found his story all that convincing. From memory which is hazy, he goes between a mate giving him something to he bought in a store. If I'm honest I found it suspect as, particularly, when your a professional athlete and you know what you stick in your body could cost you millions. I just don't see much logic in a mate giving you a pill and thinking, I'll take this without checking.

However, not that my opinion matters. He got banned for the failure and to fail again in a similar manner would be even crazier!

I'm not sure where you getting your info ref the single dose. If its teammate I'm not sure how he would know the analysis of a drug results to say single use or whatever? that seems an incredibly detailed knowledge of a failed drug test, not usada would give that info out.

im not 100% convinced he's done purpose. However, considering his history it's seems way more likely that not. Innocent till proven guilty but this is typical jones!

The info re a single dose of oral steroid was on lowkick or bloody elbow article. No idea if it's true or still online.

[Generic Username]

Good lord Jon Jones loves drugs.

[AlphonseCapone]

If he loses badly it will be. If he gives it a good go and lose it might still be. If he wins though...

 

People don't know how badly Diaz roughed him up in the boxing department. Can only imagine what one of the best boxers of all time will do.

 

Diaz is significantly bigger than Mayweather tbf. Not saying he won't outbox Conor obviously but he won't rough him up in the same way if that makes sense.

 

 

If he goes all out for the first couple of rounds, there's every chance he'll be like Joshua was in his fight with Klitschko, and need a few rounds to level himself out again. I don't think there's any part of the McGregor game plan that involves going the distance or out-pointing Floyd.

 

How Floyd deals with the inevitable early onslaught will be interesting.

 

What will potentially save McGregor's tank from emptying though is the lack of energy he'll expel from not throwing constant leg kicks, on top of the volume of punches he throws. The whole thing is going to be very intriguing.

 

Interesting points there. He is going from having to worry about kicks and being wrestled to only worry about a man's hands. Albeit the fastest and most precise pair of hands.

 

I hardly think Merryweather is going to need to fix the scorecards vs some unskilled irish drunktank wrestler. This fight seemingly gives legitimacy to a 'sport' that generally consists of braindead cavemen humping each other in a cage.

 

The first bolded word made you look silly. The second showed you have absolutely no idea what you are on about.

[ZeroHour]

Diaz is significantly bigger than Mayweather tbf. Not saying he won't outbox Conor obviously but he won't rough him up in the same way if that makes sense.

 

 

 

Interesting points there. He is going from having to worry about kicks and being wrestled to only worry about a man's hands. Albeit the fastest and most precise pair of hands.

 

 

The first bolded word made you look silly. The second showed you have absolutely no idea what you are on about.

Forgive me, male-on-male floor humping is indeed something I lack knowledge on.

[cosanostra]

Forgive me, male-on-male floor humping is indeed something I lack knowledge on.

You don't rate BJJ, Sambo or Wrestling as valid sports? MMA fighter have to master between 2 and 4 different sports to compete at anything like an elite level. Boxers have only one.

I like MMA and boxing but I find MMA way more exciting and I find the umpire decisions more agreeable on the whole.

[Generic Username]

Forgive me, male-on-male floor humping is indeed something I lack knowledge on.

 

Evidently.

 

Unless you're talking about Damien Maia and how guys must feel when he gets them in the clinch. The thought "I'm about to be floor humped" probably does whizz round guys heads at that point.

[Masonic]

3 days to go lol 2,000 tickets left

[Generic Username]

What's the T Mobile arena hold? Twenty thousand odd? Given the utterly ridiculous pricing of the tickets I'm amazed there's so few left.

[Gavsy Van Gaverson]

3 days to go lol 2,000 tickets left

I'd say they've done very well to sell as many as they have at those prices.

[Tazio]

It's actually 7000 left according to the BBC.

[Ivan Drago]

I hardly think Merryweather is going to need to fix the scorecards vs some unskilled irish drunktank wrestler. This fight seemingly gives legitimacy to a 'sport' that generally consists of braindead cavemen humping each other in a cage.

Win win for everyone. Mayweather gets his record and a shitload of money, McGregor keeps his reputation and gets a shitload of money. And money is the only reason this fight is going ahead.