Peebo Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 A bigger question - what will these morons do if panic buying starts due to distribution shortages? Probably start calmly selling shit that they have just stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deek Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Are we a fit proper country to host the Olympic Games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Youtube link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y0lHpKzfE8 Graffiti - '**** Cameroon'. That's the intelligence level of the rioters summed up right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Incredible stuff. I wonder what Dave will propose to do as it's obvious the Met police is stretched beyond breaking point and it's also obvious that without the helicopter support units they are fecking clueless on the ground. Between this and the arse falling out the stock market it's not a great holiday period for Dave & the gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Kilpatrick Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Incredible stuff. I wonder what Dave will propose to do as it's obvious the Met police is stretched beyond breaking point and it's also obvious that without the helicopter support units they are fecking clueless on the ground. Between this and the arse falling out the stock market it's not a great holiday period for Dave & the gang. Good news on the stockmarket though. Helicopter Ben is firing up the US printing presses again. What could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Where this goes from here we will find out tonight, every there is a much subdued night which the police can get out of control then last night was the peak and things will return to normal. But if it keeps the same intensity and level (or even dare I say it steps up) then I can see it spreading to more cities and causing greater problems over the next few nights. The next 24 hours will be crucial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 All because of Cilla Black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C 7 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I cant even comprehend these little w@nks mentalities, Id dearly love to see the police and army wade in and kick *** out off the little sh!ts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hibshater Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I cant even comprehend these little w@nks mentalities, Id dearly love to see the police and army wade in and kick *** out off the little sh!ts! This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N User Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Wouldn't surprise me if residents start to protect their streets tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wibble Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 This was always going to happen. It's simply a repeat of the Brixton riots and the Bradford riots in years gone by. People who are trapped in a "ghetto" with no prospect of anything other than a lifetime of minimum wage (at best) will always have dummy spits when one of their own is shot dead by the same cops who hassle the crap out of said ghetto dwellers on a daily basis. The real disgrace is how badly it has been handled by the police and how piss weak the response of politicians, especially the Prime Minister, has been. No leadership whatsoever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCw9_avTlYs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Calling for the army to come out? Saying this is all about race? Good job I'm about to sit down at my desk. This thread is heading rapidly downhill. folk being dismissive of the need to consider that the army have to be brought in. bring the feckin army in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Wouldn't surprise me if residents start to protect their streets tonight. I am really surprised no one has been killed as yet (except the black geezer in Tottenham). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 The media just compared it to The Blitz! :Vlad-Stupid: :goodone: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester copperpot Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 The media just compared it to The Blitz! :Vlad-Stupid: :goodone: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Saw on the news that the rioters smashed up a hairdressers. Fight the power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 The media enjoy a wee sprinkling of exaggeration these days eh? P.s WTF is COBRA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 This country is a disgrace, imagine if it was America they would have put an end to it on the 1st night. The police need to be allowed to wade in with battons, rubber bullets and get the water canons over from Northern Ireland. Peoples lives are being ruined and businesses are being destroyed. I would love to see a convoy of tanks rolling round London Town! This is how the Lithuanians do it! (With Vlad`s permission of course. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 The media enjoy a season wee sprinkling of exaggeration these days eh? P.s WTF is COBRA? It stands for - Cabinet Office briefing room A. Its where the PM and his cronies get together for tea and scones and decide how to deal with issues such as these riots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 The media enjoy a season wee sprinkling of exaggeration these days eh? P.s WTF is COBRA? cabinet office, breifing room A. they named their highest ranking civil contingency after a room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Stop ******* About Get Intae Them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 It must be said however... The Metropolitan police are a bit shit It starts with their recruitment. They'll take people that L&B would reject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT1959 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Darcus Howe on BBC. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory House M.D. Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 cabinet office, breifing room A. they named their highest ranking civil contingency after a room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Darcus Howe on BBC. Unbelievable. What were they thinking by letting that moron speak? Trying to compare criminal trash burning down furniture stores to protesters in Syria. If that's an 'educated' mindset for some, it really makes you wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Darcus Howe on BBC. Unbelievable. What is that clown saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12XU Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14456050 With scenes like this surely its time for CS gas and rubber bullets to push the scum back. Its going to be a long summer in London ( and beyond )- but something like this has been on the cards for months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT1959 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 What is that clown saying? Basically saying it is a global issue of the impoverished, alienated youth. Compared it to Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tams bird Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Deafening silence from the usual equal rights for ethnic minorities groups social do-gooders. The Tory government (and it is) should pull their heads out each others arsed and get the troops in. The minute these scumbags started confronting innocent people in their own home is the moment the professional badboys need set loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Basically saying it is a global issue of the impoverished, alienated youth. Compared it to Syria. What a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Deafening silence from the usual equal rights for ethnic minorities groups social do-gooders. The Tory government (and it is) should pull their heads out each others arsed and get the troops in. The minute these scumbags started confronting innocent people in their own home is the moment the professional badboys need set loose. correct. a visible presence of armed forces and their hardware. armed troops patrolling the streets... AND a mandate to use full force if they themselves are engaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Basically saying it is a global issue of the impoverished, alienated youth. Compared it to Syria. He has a point re alienated youth, imo. Not condoning these rioters, as I've posted elsewhere largely it's just criminality. It's not bakers they're breaking into is it? It's luxury goods stores. There's no politics; the anti-police rhetoric is pure reflex hate and as for the guy who was killed, most of the people rioting didn't know him. Still, interesting there wasn't even a fraction of the same reponse when Ian Tomlinson was killed by a cop ON CAMERA. Interesting to note that austerity cuts in Tottenham closed 8 out of 13 local youth clubs. Saving a penny only to lose a pound. The Syrian analogy is stretching it a bit though, that is a political movement, but perhaps what you have is a consequence of the consumerist society that has been created over the last 30 odd years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Deafening silence from the usual equal rights for ethnic minorities groups social do-gooders. The Tory government (and it is) should pull their heads out each others arsed and get the troops in. The minute these scumbags started confronting innocent people in their own home is the moment the professional badboys need set loose. What precisely do you expect them to say? And do you honestly think that martial law is going to help things in the long run? correct. a visible presence of armed forces and their hardware. armed troops patrolling the streets... AND a mandate to use full force if they themselves are engaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT1959 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 He has a point re alienated youth, imo. Not condoning these rioters, as I've posted elsewhere largely it's just criminality. It's not bakers they're breaking into is it? It's luxury goods stores. There's no politics; the anti-police rhetoric is pure reflex hate and as for the guy who was killed, most of the people rioting didn't know him. Still, interesting there wasn't even a fraction of the same reponse when Ian Tomlinson was killed by a cop ON CAMERA. Interesting to note that austerity cuts in Tottenham closed 8 out of 13 local youth clubs. Saving a penny only to lose a pound. The Syrian analogy is stretching it a bit though, that is a political movement, but perhaps what you have is a consequence of the consumerist society that has been created over the last 30 odd years. Aye, very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 What precisely do you expect them to say? And do you honestly think that martial law is going to help things in the long run? it's all very well to someone over this but how else are the authorities expected to contain it? it's already patently clear that the police are virtually powerless. is society just expected to ride it out until the rioters get bored of their recreational thuggery and mass looting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 it's all very well to someone over this but how else are the authorities expected to contain it? it's already patently clear that the police are virtually powerless. is society just expected to ride it out until the rioters get bored of their recreational thuggery and mass looting? Oh, it needs stopped, no doubt about it, however my concern is that some folk may think that the problem is over once the rioters are stopped. The issues in our society run much deeper and what we are seeing is simply a sympton of the consumer capitalist society we live in. Until the causes of such behaviour are looked into and sorted we shall simply go round in circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Aye, very good. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 P.s WTF is COBRA? It's a lovely Indian lager, I hope to feck they don't target their UK brewery next, I love that stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Oh, it needs stopped, no doubt about it, however my concern is that some folk may think that the problem is over once the rioters are stopped. The issues in our society run much deeper and what we are seeing is simply a sympton of the consumer capitalist society we live in. Until the causes of such behaviour are looked into and sorted we shall simply go round in circles. i'm glad we can agree on the immediate urgency to contain. the underlying issues do indeed require a huge, far reaching review. the time for that is when order has been restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makateer Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 He has a point re alienated youth, imo. Not condoning these rioters, as I've posted elsewhere largely it's just criminality. It's not bakers they're breaking into is it? It's luxury goods stores. There's no politics; the anti-police rhetoric is pure reflex hate and as for the guy who was killed, most of the people rioting didn't know him. Still, interesting there wasn't even a fraction of the same reponse when Ian Tomlinson was killed by a cop ON CAMERA. Interesting to note that austerity cuts in Tottenham closed 8 out of 13 local youth clubs. Saving a penny only to lose a pound. The Syrian analogy is stretching it a bit though, that is a political movement, but perhaps what you have is a consequence of the consumerist society that has been created over the last 30 odd years. The thing is Boris, it isn't just luxury goods stores. On the news this morning they showed a street that where an Oxfam shop was trashed. Yesterday there was pictures of looting in an Iceland shop. What are they after, second hand jumpers and microwavable pizzas? It is just completely mindless destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I agree with the analogy re: alienated youth, uprisings and social networking. It's just that the Arab Spring had a point, whereas this has taken a point and turned it into mindless looting. All sympathy went out the window when it became clear that this was zilch to do with the death of a man at the hands of police in Tottenham, and everything to do with opportunistic vandalism and theft. The hoardes have undermined the whole exercise of displaying mass anger at the way police treat the underclasses, and the point has been irrevocably lost. What he said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 The thing is Boris, it isn't just luxury goods stores. On the news this morning they showed a street that where an Oxfam shop was trashed. Yesterday there was pictures of looting in an Iceland shop. What are they after, second hand jumpers and microwavable pizzas? It is just completely mindless destruction. You're right. It has escalated from what appeared to be a new form of "steaming" to as you say, mindless destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Chimp Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 http://catchalooter.tumblr.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=327J3ISiVOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Oh, it needs stopped, no doubt about it, however my concern is that some folk may think that the problem is over once the rioters are stopped. The issues in our society run much deeper and what we are seeing is simply a sympton of the consumer capitalist society we live in. Until the causes of such behaviour are looked into and sorted we shall simply go round in circles. You don't think that possibly there is simply a latent criminality in Tottenham with black youths and hanger-on white youths who all aspire to some pathetic 'gangsta' lifestyle. People always trot out the "deprived/alienated/poor" lines, yet these kids have the same access to education as the rest of the country, they simply don't go. There are plenty of poor kids across the UK (and I do agree about your wider point - that capitalism fuels a consumerism that rubs it in the faces of those who can't afford the stuff they are told they need) but they aren't rioting every weekend because they can't afford a PS3. The key question here is - where the **** are the parents of these rioters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexton Hardcastle Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I take it The North Face jackets are standard issue at the bbc/sky news? Hope their outlets never got done over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckauskas Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Apparently an extra 10,000 officers on the streets of London tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToYouToMe Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Get the troops in. Absolutely disgusting scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_vlad Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 not everyone is jobless.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redm Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Check out the @riotcleanup and #Riotwombles work today. Fantastic response. I had to put myself to bed last night before it got too much for me but that cheered me up no end this morning. Brilliant. See that 'Britishness' thing I normally can't really get my head around? Well, that response? It's very British. Yep yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ultraviolet Catastrophe Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMa9dMGuX5k&feature=youtu.be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1-XlVJSQ24&feature=player_embedded The second one Mental Puts paid to the myth that it's just black people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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