Walter Bishop Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Why has Hamilton not been give the same penalty as Di Resta??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Great battle now with Vettel, Alonso and Button. Surely Vettel can't hold them out on those tyres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 what a race, carnage in the middle and the top 3 next to each other vettel i think he just won because of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 or has his tyres just gave up on him & when the safety car comes in buton pipps the both of them?? no matter what best race in monaco in years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 vettel wins after red flag petrov is stuck in his car, or something well done to everyone, what a really good race pleasing juve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 OK I don't know a lot about F1, but I had money on Vettel winning. With the race being over with 6 laps to go, has he been declared the winner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since.1902 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 OK I don't know a lot about F1, but I had money on Vettel winning. With the race being over with 6 laps to go, has he been declared the winner? Not yet , going to be restarted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 whats the point in restarting this race?? utter pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 He'll feckin lose now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 the race is going to be restarted, 6 laps of wheel to wheel racing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Race isn't over yet. Should be a good few laps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 whats the point in restarting this race?? utter pointless Not if you are Alonso or Button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 IF Tyres can be changed then vettel has won this race im not to sure but kannae see the top 3 being altered, unless Jensen can get a good start from the restart still think its pointless in restarting imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since.1902 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 It did seem a bit daft you can change your wings but not your tyres, gotta be vettels race now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 mind you IF you think about it, there is still scope for a assive crash going into tabac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasman Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 whats the point in restarting this race?? utter pointless Seems bizarre... Petrov was (briefly) unconscious, so they had to carry out a "medical extraction" to get him out the car. Repairs carried out on the grid, along with tyre changes, then a Safety Car restart on cold tyres. There could be more twists in the last half dozen laps yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Seems bizarre... Petrov was (briefly) unconscious, so they had to carry out a "medical extraction" to get him out the car. Repairs carried out on the grid, along with tyre changes, then a Safety Car restart on cold tyres. There could be more twists in the last half dozen laps yet... lets hope so, good to see hispancia still in the race juve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaap's Sigh Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Have they been allowed to change their tyres then? Had to nip out there. Edit - I see they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 mind you IF you think about it, there is still scope for a assive crash going into tabac There's every chance. Alonso was getting angry before the red flag. Should be good viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 quality another crash ect, great viewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Gosling Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Yaldi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Monaco is a fecking dump. Terrible, terrible circuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Do you think Hamilton will get another penalty? 30 seconds onto his time maybe? Maldonado was having a great race until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Do you think Hamilton will get another penalty? 30 seconds onto his time maybe? Maldonado was having a great race until then. i think he will either get a 20s penalty, or a grid penalty for the next race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 i think he will either get a 20s penalty, or a grid penalty for the next race Never thought about the grid penalty. Still think it'll be a time penalty of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 lewis hamilton ............... and i quite '' is it coz i is black'' quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 lewis hamilton ............... and i quite '' is it coz i is black'' quality twitter is going mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 lewis hamilton ............... and i quite '' is it coz i is black'' quality did he actually say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaap's Sigh Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 did he actually say that? Just watched the interview. Think it was said tongue in cheek. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/13588664.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Lewis Hamilton is a spoiled brat. He's been McLaren's golden boy for years, with everybody telling him how amazing he is. And there's no doubt he's a top driver. But it's never his fault. And he chucks the toys out the pram like a petulant child everytime something goes against him. I didn't see what happened in qualifying, but he was quite rightly penalised for the move on Massa during the race. 100% his fault. He's been number 1 his whole career, and now his car isn't as competitive and his driving style ruins his tyres he makes desperate, rash moves more and more often. He's a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Lewis Hamilton is a spoiled brat. He's been McLaren's golden boy for years, with everybody telling him how amazing he is. And there's no doubt he's a top driver. But it's never his fault. And he chucks the toys out the pram like a petulant child everytime something goes against him. I didn't see what happened in qualifying, but he was quite rightly penalised for the move on Massa during the race. 100% his fault. He's been number 1 his whole career, and now his car isn't as competitive and his driving style ruins his tyres he makes desperate, rash moves more and more often. He's a dick. A lot of what you say may be right, but he is the best driver in F1 and without a doubt the most exciting to watch... I prefer to watch people who at least try to overtake as opposed to being happy to drive round and settle for whatever position they find themselves off the line. The mclaren is without doubt now on par with the red bull duing the race at least and many people suspect probably quicker... He was incredibly unlucky yesterday when Massa blocked him and then the crash prevented him taking a likely pole position. The incidents today were his fault and he deserved the penalties but at least he makes it interesting... Hope to god vettel has a couple of DNF's soon.. So Hamilton, button and Alonso get back in the race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 A lot of what you say may be right, but he is the best driver in F1 and without a doubt the most exciting to watch... I prefer to watch people who at least try to overtake as opposed to being happy to drive round and settle for whatever position they find themselves off the line. The mclaren is without doubt now on par with the red bull duing the race at least and many people suspect probably quicker... He was incredibly unlucky yesterday when Massa blocked him and then the crash prevented him taking a likely pole position. The incidents today were his fault and he deserved the penalties but at least he makes it interesting... Hope to god vettel has a couple of DNF's soon.. So Hamilton, button and Alonso get back in the race Nonsense to the bold part. Many pundits reckon that for raw speed it's Alonso, and Vettel is the best in terms of a whole driver package of speed and brains. You kind of defeat your own argument by talking about the McLaren being at least as fast as the Red Bull in race trim. If that was the case surely the best driver would be taking them during the race? Hamilton is quick and a very good driver but not the myth the British media have made him out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Hamilton is a glorified go-kart racer. He drives his car into the ground, ruins the tyres, wrecks the engine, attempts overtaking maneouvers that have no chance of sticking and acts like a spoilt brat every time he crashes. Good to watch though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I agree with Tazio and Cade. I'd put Hamilton behind Vettel and Alonso. Vettel won last season when the tyres degraded far less, and he's doing the same this year. I also really hope we get to see Kubica back and racing in a more competitive car. I think he would be a genuine contender in a Red Bull, McLaren or Ferrari. Hope he can get fit as he would be a perfect replacement for Webber at Red Bull who unfortunately isn't looking the driver he was the last 2 years, or Massa at Ferrari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Sorry boys but not many of the f1 pundits agree with you.. Vettel is a good driver but has been in an utterly dominant car, he should be winning all the time it is that much better-he looks to have taken a step forward this year tho, Hamilton beat Alonso in the same car in his rookie year and won the championship in a slower car than the Ferrari in his second year... As for all the stuff about wrecking tyres, engines - that is just factually wrong... There is no evidence of that at all... Hamilton and Alonso are regarded as the best in the business and vettel looks like joining them in thy company, will be interesting to see what happens when he is not in a dominant car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Ps - the mclaren has only been equal to the rbr in race trim over the last 2 races, Hamilton hounded rbr on a track considered to be their strongest last time out in barca to the surprise of many,unfortunately its very difficult to owrtake at barca too especially with short drs zone and I think he was very unlucky to start back in the pack in this race... The next races will be interesting especially when RBR loose their qualy 3 retarded ignition trick by silverstone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Le Clos Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 I think he's a top driver, but I'd still put him 3rd behind Vettel and Alonso. I think Alonso is better now that he was when Hamilton beat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flux Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-whitmarsh-says-hamilton-apologized/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest juvehearts Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 The Bahrain Grand Prix will return to the Formula 1 calendar on 30 October mixed feelings about this but i suppose its good for the sport juve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 In my opinion if you put Vettel, Hamilton and Alonso in the same cars to race, you still wouldn't be sure who would win, there are so many variables, track, tyre choice even how they feel on the day. We are very fortunate to have three such brilliant drivers racing at the moment, Button and Webber are not too far behind, and DiResta might well some good too. Overall if I had to pick one it would be Hamilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 In my opinion if you put Vettel, Hamilton and Alonso in the same cars to race, you still wouldn't be sure who would win, there are so many variables, track, tyre choice even how they feel on the day. We are very fortunate to have three such brilliant drivers racing at the moment, Button and Webber are not too far behind, and DiResta might well some good too. Overall if I had to pick one it would be Hamilton. If I had the choice of all 3 for my imaginary team I'd pick Alonso. He's relentless. All F1 drivers are much the same in terms of pace and racecraft but Alonso is the best at the moment. Hamilton, Vettel, Rosberg, and Kubica are not far behind though. Everybody else is slightly behind them. I fear for Kubicas future though. I can't see him in F1 again but I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcapital Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Hamtilon and alonso are a class above vettel, vettel is good no doubt about it but almost everything he has done has been from the front of the grid, could probably count the amount of overtakes hes done in his career on one hand Hamilton on the other hand, if you made a highlights reel of overtakes in races since his career began, he would pobably feature in about 25-30 % of them Alonso is just quick although its interestin that hamilton beat him in the same car Hamilton will often perform higher than is expected of the car, whilst vettel, although an obviously great driver when you compare him with webber, pretty much does whats expected of his car People said the same about hamilton and say 'wait til hes in a slow car and see what hes made of' well hes had a few seasons of that and still shines, wheh vettel starts racin in a car that doesnt dominate and still shines i will start puttin him up there with hamilton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Hamtilon and alonso are a class above vettel, vettel is good no doubt about it but almost everything he has done has been from the front of the grid, could probably count the amount of overtakes hes done in his career on one hand Hamilton on the other hand, if you made a highlights reel of overtakes in races since his career began, he would pobably feature in about 25-30 % of them Alonso is just quick although its interestin that hamilton beat him in the same car Hamilton will often perform higher than is expected of the car, whilst vettel, although an obviously great driver when you compare him with webber, pretty much does whats expected of his car People said the same about hamilton and say 'wait til hes in a slow car and see what hes made of' well hes had a few seasons of that and still shines, wheh vettel starts racin in a car that doesnt dominate and still shines i will start puttin him up there with hamilton What about Vettel in the Toro Rosso? Didn't he win at Monza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 What about Vettel in the Toro Rosso? Didn't he win at Monza? He did, but monza Is a strange, virtually no downforce circuit and weirdly the torro Rosso was quick, circuit and if you watched it the gods were with him in that race big time... Interesting to note in his rookie year he was generally well beaten by v liuzzi, ( Hamilton beat a 2x world champ and was incredibly unfortunate not to win title in 2nd fastest car-a feat he achieved in his 2nd year) last season vettel crashed god knows how many times and nearly threw it away in an utterly dominant car... This season he is doing his job brilliantly and has clearly taken a step forward. It will be interesting to watch when rbr is not dominant and he doesn't start on pole... When he doesn't start on pole his win conversion rate is very poor even compared to webber never mind alonso and Hamilton... He is getting there IMO but you don't prove it starting on pole in a car 1sec a lap quicker than your rivals We should see by silverstone as it's widely anticipated that rbi's 100% retarded ignition for qualy will be banned by then removing their massive qualy advantage and resulting in much closer race pace across he field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 He did, but monza Is a strange, virtually no downforce circuit and weirdly the torro Rosso was quick, circuit and if you watched it the gods were with him in that race big time... Interesting to note in his rookie year he was generally well beaten by v liuzzi, ( Hamilton beat a 2x world champ and was incredibly unfortunate not to win title in 2nd fastest car-a feat he achieved in his 2nd year) last season vettel crashed god knows how many times and nearly threw it away in an utterly dominant car... This season he is doing his job brilliantly and has clearly taken a step forward. It will be interesting to watch when rbr is not dominant and he doesn't start on pole... When he doesn't start on pole his win conversion rate is very poor even compared to webber never mind alonso and Hamilton... He is getting there IMO but you don't prove it starting on pole in a car 1sec a lap quicker than your rivals We should see by silverstone as it's widely anticipated that rbi's 100% retarded ignition for qualy will be banned by then removing their massive qualy advantage and resulting in much closer race pace across he field Hamilton beating Alonso is a misnomer. They had equal points and if McLaren had backed either as no.1 driver then that driver would have won the championship. I agree about Vettel needing to prove himself as he needs to come through the field to win but he certainly showed his doubters something at the Spanish GP by sweeping past Button and Alonso in 1 lap. Its good that there are a good few drivers looking fairly equal too. Makes a nice change from the dominant years of Schumacher in the Ferrari, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingantti1874 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Hamilton beating Alonso is a misnomer. They had equal points and if McLaren had backed either as no.1 driver then that driver would have won the championship. I agree about Vettel needing to prove himself as he needs to come through the field to win but he certainly showed his doubters something at the Spanish GP by sweeping past Button and Alonso in 1 lap. Its good that there are a good few drivers looking fairly equal too. Makes a nice change from the dominant years of Schumacher in the Ferrari, I agree, I actually think vetted is now at the same level - he just needs to prove it... Re vetted sweeping past button and alonso tho.. Button was on a different strategy preserving tyres.. Alonso was some 3sec a lap slower on the hards... Looking fwd to Canada big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 I agree, I actually think vetted is now at the same level - he just needs to prove it... Re vetted sweeping past button and alonso tho.. Button was on a different strategy preserving tyres.. Alonso was some 3sec a lap slower on the hards... Looking fwd to Canada big time Canada is a superb track. Very fast. Is it true there's going to be 2 DRS zones in the race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 increased calendar for 2012 to 21 races My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsy Van Gaverson Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Canada is a superb track. Very fast. Is it true there's going to be 2 DRS zones in the race? Yip. 2 DRS zones. It is going to be chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Currahee! Posted June 4, 2011 Share Posted June 4, 2011 Yip. 2 DRS zones. It is going to be chaos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZqBbLyp6oo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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