Is there anything in politics more shit than the Labour Party?

[The Real Maroonblood]

1 minute ago, pablo said:

Smell the fear

[ri Alban]

3 minutes ago, pablo said:

Smell the fear

[The Mighty Thor]

Just now, pablo said:

Smell the fear

Oh for sure.

 

Keith flip flopping while adopting Tory doctrine and Broon out regurgitating his pish from 2014?

 

Labour are one slip-up mention of Brexit away from the whole thing collapsing around them. 

 

Wait til the shitehawks like Rothermere, Barclay & Murdoch get after him 😂

 

 

[il Duce McTarkin]

Just now, The Mighty Thor said:

 

Keith flip flopping while adopting Tory doctrine and Broon out regurgitating his pish from 2014?

 

Labour are one slip-up mention of Brexit away from the whole thing collapsing around them. 

 

Wait til the shitehawks like Rothermere, Barclay & Murdoch get after him 😂

 

 

 

Great, just what we should all be hoping for. That'll learn em.

[The Mighty Thor]

Just now, Dirk McTarkin said:

 

Great, just what we should all be hoping for. That'll learn em.

Why would middle England vote for Labour pretending to be the Tories when they can just vote for the Tories?

 

That's the dangerous ground they've wandered into. What do they stand for? What does Starmer stand for? 

 

Exact same policies as Rashid? 😂😂

 

 

[pablo]

A Labour Government delivering inclusive change for the whole of Britain is a Nats worst nightmare. Desperate stuff now as it dawns on them what's happening.

[The Mighty Thor]

11 minutes ago, pablo said:

A Labour Government delivering inclusive change for the whole of Britain is a Nats worst nightmare. Desperate stuff now as it dawns on them what's happening.

What's happening? Like a 'Levelling-up' type thing? 😂

 Are you taking the 'Broon" Kool-Aid? 

 

 

 

 

[BlueRiver]

SNP acolytes on here talking about empty political rhetoric shows a startling lack of self-awareness. 

 

Any closer to that long-promised 2nd referendum lads? 

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, BlueRiver said:

SNP acolytes on here talking about empty political rhetoric shows a startling lack of self-awareness. 

 

Any closer to that long-promised 2nd referendum lads? 

Shush 🤫 ! That so called Indy Ref won’t be happening until after 2025 at the earliest ! Talk about getting strung along 

[BlueRiver]

Just now, JudyJudyJudy said:

Shush 🤫 ! That so called Indy Ref won’t be happening until after 2025 at the earliest ! Talk about getting strung along 

 

They'll just keep sipping that kool-aid I guess....

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, BlueRiver said:

 

They'll just keep sipping that kool-aid I guess....

Aye clinging on to every lie they get telt . It’s a cult . 

[Ulysses]

So, lads...

 

 

 

...the Labour Party?

[BlueRiver]

5 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

So, lads...

 

 

 

...the Labour Party?

 

Landslide majority inbound. Sir Keir as PM. Good stuff. 

[pablo]

1 minute ago, Ulysses said:

So, lads...

 

 

 

...the Labour Party?

 

Paying a blinder on the Brexit debate. Not allowing the Tories to attack them on the issue, but acutely aware that the country will want a change in direction in the coming years. Abolishing the HOL. Decentralising power away from Westminster. Banning MPs from holding second job stopping foreign investment in political parties.

 

Wouldn't be sure how easy any of that will be to deliver, but if a criticism of Labour has been we don't know what they stand for, they've went some way to start addressing that.

 

They're winning the next GE by a landslide in my opinion.

[JudyJudyJudy]

7 minutes ago, pablo said:

 

Paying a blinder on the Brexit debate. Not allowing the Tories to attack them on the issue, but acutely aware that the country will want a change in direction in the coming years. Abolishing the HOL. Decentralising power away from Westminster. Banning MPs from holding second job stopping foreign investment in political parties.

 

Wouldn't be sure how easy any of that will be to deliver, but if a criticism of Labour has been we don't know what they stand for, they've went some way to start addressing that.

 

They're winning the next GE by a landslide in my opinion.

Yes all good stuff really . Much needed changes . 

[Ked]

24 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

So, lads...

 

 

 

...the Labour Party?

Looking like they will miss an open goal .

[micole]

36 minutes ago, BlueRiver said:

 

Landslide majority inbound. Sir Keir as PM. Good stuff. 

Yes, well for 4/ 5 years at least,  then the Tories get back in and round and round we go again.

[JudyJudyJudy]

One less problem for Labour to worry about at the next general election 

 

 

https://unherd.com/thepost/goodbye-eddie-izzard-and-good-riddance/

[The Mighty Thor]

7 hours ago, pablo said:

 

Paying a blinder on the Brexit debate. Not allowing the Tories to attack them on the issue, but acutely aware that the country will want a change in direction in the coming years.

😂

 

Absolutely shitting it every time he's asked about it in an interview. 

 

What should terrify every Labour voter is that he's 'looked at what Brexit means and sees no need to change it'.

 

4% loss of GDP and an economy in tatters and he sees no need to change it? 😂

 

The Tories know that he's lying through his teeth and so do the public, or they will do when Rothermere/Murdoch/Barclay unleash the attack dogs.

 

Add to that heady mix;

No change to migration policy

No support for striking workers (mostly members of..........The Labour Party)

 

In fact all that Keith and the brains trust at Labour HQ could come up with is to abolish the House of Lords. Oh wait! that was last week's policy, this week it is 'reform' the House of Lords. 😂

 

Two years from a GE and the whole Labour strategy has the reek of Terry Butcher's green and white army about it. We all know how that one panned out. 

[The Mighty Thor]

7 hours ago, Ked said:

Looking like they will miss an open goal .

This.

[Pans Jambo]

27 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

😂

 

Absolutely shitting it every time he's asked about it in an interview. 

 

What should terrify every Labour voter is that he's 'looked at what Brexit means and sees no need to change it'.

 

4% loss of GDP and an economy in tatters and he sees no need to change it? 😂

 

The Tories know that he's lying through his teeth and so do the public, or they will do when Rothermere/Murdoch/Barclay unleash the attack dogs.

 

Add to that heady mix;

No change to migration policy

No support for striking workers (mostly members of..........The Labour Party)

 

In fact all that Keith and the brains trust at Labour HQ could come up with is to abolish the House of Lords. Oh wait! that was last week's policy, this week it is 'reform' the House of Lords. 😂

 

Two years from a GE and the whole Labour strategy has the reek of Terry Butcher's green and white army about it. We all know how that one panned out. 

I think this about covers it:

 

[Pans Jambo]

8 hours ago, pablo said:

 

Paying a blinder on the Brexit debate. Not allowing the Tories to attack them on the issue, but acutely aware that the country will want a change in direction in the coming years. Abolishing the HOL. Decentralising power away from Westminster. Banning MPs from holding second job stopping foreign investment in political parties.

 

Wouldn't be sure how easy any of that will be to deliver, but if a criticism of Labour has been we don't know what they stand for, they've went some way to start addressing that.

 

They're winning the next GE by a landslide in my opinion.

 

[pablo]

28 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

😂

 

Absolutely shitting it every time he's asked about it in an interview. 

 

What should terrify every Labour voter is that he's 'looked at what Brexit means and sees no need to change it'.

 

4% loss of GDP and an economy in tatters and he sees no need to change it? 😂

 

The Tories know that he's lying through his teeth and so do the public, or they will do when Rothermere/Murdoch/Barclay unleash the attack dogs.

 

Add to that heady mix;

No change to migration policy

No support for striking workers (mostly members of..........The Labour Party)

 

In fact all that Keith and the brains trust at Labour HQ could come up with is to abolish the House of Lords. Oh wait! that was last week's policy, this week it is 'reform' the House of Lords. 😂

 

Two years from a GE and the whole Labour strategy has the reek of Terry Butcher's green and white army about it. We all know how that one panned out. 

 

The Scottish electorate now know that a vote for Labour means real change. Real change across the UK. It's big.

 

Nationalism has never looked more tired, narrower and more parochial than it does this morning. The bitter hardline politics of the SNP and The Tories are coming to an end.

 

Support for Scottish Nationalism will retreat to the lunatic fringe from where it came.

[joondalupjambo]

8 hours ago, pablo said:

 

Paying a blinder on the Brexit debate. Not allowing the Tories to attack them on the issue, but acutely aware that the country will want a change in direction in the coming years. Abolishing the HOL. Decentralising power away from Westminster. Banning MPs from holding second job stopping foreign investment in political parties.

 

Wouldn't be sure how easy any of that will be to deliver, but if a criticism of Labour has been we don't know what they stand for, they've went some way to start addressing that.

 

They're winning the next GE by a landslide in my opinion.

Saying a lot of good stuff is ok but the key test for Labour will be seeing these proposed changes in a manifesto and the detail in the backup policy documents.  That will sway the undecided otherwise it could just be seen as huff and puff. However that said you could be right regardless, Labour landslide incoming.

 

All the media need to do is remind voters of the COVID response, the deaths and the Queen sitting on her own at Philips funeral.  Assuming the powerful behind the scenes allow it.

[Roxy Hearts]

Labour are just being their usual, lying selves. Hate them. 

[Jeffros Furios]

Sir Keir is a good man and it will bring me great  joy when he wins the GE ...

Anything Is better than the currency bunch of ***** who have ripped the pish for years. 

In Keir we trust  ! 

[John Findlay]

Typical opposition. Promise you the world, then deliver the square root of **** all. I predict the house of Lords as it is will still be here a hundred years from now.

Winning the next GE guaranteed?

I personally wouldn't be to sure about that.

[il Duce McTarkin]

1 hour ago, Jeffros Furios said:

Sir Keir is a good man and it will bring me great  joy when he wins the GE ...

Anything Is better than the currency bunch of ***** who have ripped the pish for years. 

In Keir we trust  ! 

 

Good post. It's sad to see some once objective posters utterly blinded to Sir Kier's attempt at pragmatism by the seperatist nationalism that hatred for the Tories has driven them to, Jeffros.

 

Fear leads to anger… anger leads to hate… hate leads to suffering.

 

 

[Pans Jambo]

2 hours ago, pablo said:

 

The Scottish electorate now know that a vote for Labour means real change. Real change across the UK. It's big.

 

Nationalism has never looked more tired, narrower and more parochial than it does this morning. The bitter hardline politics of the SNP and The Tories are coming to an end.

 

Support for Scottish Nationalism will retreat to the lunatic fringe from where it came.

Been saying that for the last 15 years and guess what?

Edited December 6, 2022 by Pans Jambo

[jack D and coke]

11 hours ago, pablo said:

 

Paying a blinder on the Brexit debate. Not allowing the Tories to attack them on the issue, but acutely aware that the country will want a change in direction in the coming years. Abolishing the HOL. Decentralising power away from Westminster. Banning MPs from holding second job stopping foreign investment in political parties.

 

Wouldn't be sure how easy any of that will be to deliver, but if a criticism of Labour has been we don't know what they stand for, they've went some way to start addressing that.

 

They're winning the next GE by a landslide in my opinion.

You can’t seriously believe they’re abolishing the HoL? 
They’ve been promising this for over a century. 
Labour might well get in for one term but then it’s back to Tory again and then Labour will promise they’ll abolish the HoL and more devolution (as close to federalism as is possible 🤣) to get re-elected  and round and round we’ll go. 
 

[jack D and coke]

Saying that you believed Boris when he said he was going to build a tunnel to NI with roundabouts under the Irish Sea so aye you probably do. 

[The Mighty Thor]

5 hours ago, pablo said:

 

The Scottish electorate now know that a vote for Labour means real change. Real change across the UK. It's big.

 

Nationalism has never looked more tired, narrower and more parochial than it does this morning. The bitter hardline politics of the SNP and The Tories are coming to an end.

 

Support for Scottish Nationalism will retreat to the lunatic fringe from where it came.

The Scottish electorate have tumbled to the branch office politics of the legacy parties. They've seen the con. Keith doesn't have the hutzpah of Tony B Liar to sell the con properly.

 

Aye nationalism is finished. It's all over. 😂

 

As time rolls on the lunatic fringe exposes itself as those who wish to continue to seek to be ruled by politicians in another country. Oh and those poor souls who still believe in the right of rule by dint of the birth canal you fell from. 

 

 

 

 

[pablo]

34 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

The Scottish electorate have tumbled to the branch office politics of the legacy parties. They've seen the con. Keith doesn't have the hutzpah of Tony B Liar to sell the con properly.

 

Aye nationalism is finished. It's all over. 😂

 

As time rolls on the lunatic fringe exposes itself as those who wish to continue to seek to be ruled by politicians in another country. Oh and those poor souls who still believe in the right of rule by dint of the birth canal you fell from. 

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, I guess we'll see over the next few years what happens. Labour appear to at least be putting together a vision on how the future could be like. Will it resonate with the electorate? I don't know....but up against a one line manifesto which can't be delivered and isn't even a priority for most? Good luck.

[The Mighty Thor]

41 minutes ago, pablo said:

 

Okay, I guess we'll see over the next few years what happens. Labour appear to at least be putting together a vision on how the future could be like. Will it resonate with the electorate? I don't know....but up against a one line manifesto which can't be delivered and isn't even a priority for most? Good luck.

 

We will indeed.

 

Particularly against a one line manifesto from a lunatic fringe party that is finished. 

 

What could possibly go wrong for Keith and wee Anus?

 

[jack D and coke]

2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

 

We will indeed.

 

Particularly against a one line manifesto from a lunatic fringe party that is finished. 

 

What could possibly go wrong for Keith and wee Anus?

 

Goagsy “inturvenshun” Broon will look out for us.
English electorate vote them in so sit doon jockos. 
 

Edited December 6, 2022 by jack D and coke

[The Mighty Thor]

4 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Goagsy “inturvenshun” Broon will look out for us.
English electorate vote them in so sit doon jockos. 
 

Aye but it's a democracy likesy 😂

 

Risible. 

[Ulysses]

18 hours ago, BlueRiver said:

 

Landslide majority inbound. Sir Keir as PM. Good stuff. 

 

Looking that way, yet it's not that long since the Tories were looking set to cruise the next GE.  What happened?  Did Labour get better?  Or did they get lucky with opponents who seem to be, er, the only thing in politics more shit than them?

 

18 hours ago, pablo said:

 

Paying a blinder on the Brexit debate. Not allowing the Tories to attack them on the issue, but acutely aware that the country will want a change in direction in the coming years. Abolishing the HOL. Decentralising power away from Westminster. Banning MPs from holding second job stopping foreign investment in political parties.

 

Wouldn't be sure how easy any of that will be to deliver, but if a criticism of Labour has been we don't know what they stand for, they've went some way to start addressing that.

 

They're winning the next GE by a landslide in my opinion.

 

That's got an appearance of a package, though it seems to be unravelling a little already.  But it's more than they had as little as six months ago.

 

 

18 hours ago, Ked said:

Looking like they will miss an open goal .

 

I sometimes think that as well, TBH.

[BlueRiver]

15 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

Looking that way, yet it's not that long since the Tories were looking set to cruise the next GE.  What happened?  Did Labour get better?  Or did they get lucky with opponents who seem to be, er, the only thing in politics more shit than them?

 

Bit of both I reckon. Starmer hasn't sprinted to show his hand too early before a general election and has sensibly stood off at times as the Tories implode. He's fortunately not got the baggage that some former front benchers had too to make him as easy a target. 

 

I'd expect to see a lot more in clear policy positions soon but there's no point unveiling everything early and letting the Tories nick the more palatable centrist ones to attempt reinvention number 7. Let them carry on digging their own graves for the time being. 

 

For avoidance of doubt I see that pragmatism in Starmer's approach as Labour improving. It looks like we have someone in charge who wants to be in power for a change and isn't just interested in student politicking. 

Edited December 6, 2022 by BlueRiver

[Pans Jambo]

[The Mighty Thor]

6 hours ago, Pans Jambo said:

Thats it. That's Labour's offer. 😂

 

All the other major policies are the same as Rashid's. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

5 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Thats it. That's Labour's offer. 😂

 

All the other major policies are the same as Rashid's. 

It’s Rishi 

[jack D and coke]

6 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Thats it. That's Labour's offer. 😂

 

All the other major policies are the same as Rashid's. 

It’s laughable that Labour wheel this clown out thinking he has any credibility up here anymore. 
Gie yirsel some peace Broon ffs🤡🤡😂😂

Labour are dead here and rightly so. 

[BlueRiver]

Indy ref right round the corner boys? 🤣 cheek calling anything groundhog day. 

 

At least Brown has the defence of not actually having been in power on the years in that post. Details are difficult but you'll get there lads. 

[Gizmo]

On 06/12/2022 at 10:31, jack D and coke said:

You can’t seriously believe they’re abolishing the HoL? 
They’ve been promising this for over a century. 
Labour might well get in for one term but then it’s back to Tory again and then Labour will promise they’ll abolish the HoL and more devolution (as close to federalism as is possible 🤣) to get re-elected  and round and round we’ll go. 
 

They'll be dragging out Gordon Brown's corpse to promise the earth to Scotland in 16 years time as the shebang of bullshit goes on its shitty cycle.

We deserve better than all of these careerist chancers. 
 

[Costanza]

Labour under Starmer offer real change....if only that we have the worst, most incompetent and corrupt Government in history.

What Labour under Starmer don't offer is radical change...something like the 10 pledges he signed up to in the leadership election which have practically all been dropped.

There's likely enough people that are happy that he will say anything to win elections and then renege on that and offer mild tinkering to sort the country's massive problems....but it's hardly ****ing inspiring is it?

[the posh bit]

On 06/12/2022 at 06:47, The Mighty Thor said:

😂

 

Absolutely shitting it every time he's asked about it in an interview. 

 

What should terrify every Labour voter is that he's 'looked at what Brexit means and sees no need to change it'.

 

4% loss of GDP and an economy in tatters and he sees no need to change it? 😂

 

The Tories know that he's lying through his teeth and so do the public, or they will do when Rothermere/Murdoch/Barclay unleash the attack dogs.

 

Add to that heady mix;

No change to migration policy

No support for striking workers (mostly members of..........The Labour Party)

 

In fact all that Keith and the brains trust at Labour HQ could come up with is to abolish the House of Lords. Oh wait! that was last week's policy, this week it is 'reform' the House of Lords. 😂

 

Two years from a GE and the whole Labour strategy has the reek of Terry Butcher's green and white army about it. We all know how that one panned out. 

 

How many times has Liebour played that HoL card? What's left out of their daft wee mob up here will believe anything. 😃

[Mikey1874]

Sunak bounce

 

 

[The Mighty Thor]

1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said:

Sunak bounce

 

 

Even the pensioners didn't vote for him when they had the chance. They went for thick Lizzy in a two horse race 😂

[Japan Jambo]

2 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Even the pensioners didn't vote for him when they had the chance. They went for thick Lizzy in a two horse race 😂

 

What are you talking about? A very, very small portion of the population who happen to pay Conservative party subs voted. Even then she only won 57 to 43%, roughly the same as your Indy defeat no? 

[The Mighty Thor]

3 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

What are you talking about? A very, very small portion of the population who happen to pay Conservative party subs voted. Even then she only won 57 to 43%, roughly the same as your Indy defeat no? 

The leadership election in the summer.

The pensioners who make up the vast majority of that constituency of Tory party members. 

When given the chance to vote for Sunak they didn't.

 

That's what I'm talking about.