The Mighty Thor Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 a pretty savage take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitonastranger Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 50 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Starmer's big speech today. As light on detail on as Rashid's yesterday. It would be really, really good if he actually showed some policy ideas rather than just proposing to continue the shit work being done by the Tories. He's even banging on about 'taking back control' FFS Did he have any opinion on the Tories taking away people's right to strike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Keir Sunak/Rishi Starmer Up here an utterly tragic SNP these days. It’s a thoroughly depressing state of affairs the options available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Starmer is a fraud and the Labour party are no longer the labour party. Too busy looking for the Tory vote and forgotten who they are supposed to be for. He's shit scared of Brexit, if he had any balls he'd promise to reserve it without a referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Keir Sunak/Rishi Starmer Up here an utterly tragic SNP these days. It’s a thoroughly depressing state of affairs the options available. I'm done, bud. Feck the lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I'm done, bud. Feck the lot of them. Totally understandable. Depressing times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, The Real Maroonblood said: Totally understandable. Depressing times. They're all the same. Why they all kneel at big business, is beyond me. Tax them all to feck. If people believe they won't invest in the UK economy, they must be right mugs. Billions to be made even at very high tax. And if they do, nationalise the companies. BT, BP, Shell, Scottish gas, Scottish power, etc... etc... Make these ***** stop taking all the wealth out the country. Wealth out, debt replaces it, serviced by the taxpayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I'm done, bud. Feck the lot of them. Aye I’m at the same stage. SNP I just don’t know what they are anymore tbh. I’m disgusted with them. Labour will get in for one term probably , well that’s if the palest greyest man doesn’t get destroyed by the scum media (it’s not a shoe in yet) and then it’s back to Tory dogshit for another ten years. Place is going doing the toilet in every measurable way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, jack D and coke said: Aye I’m at the same stage. SNP I just don’t know what they are anymore tbh. I’m disgusted with them. Labour will get in for one term probably , well that’s if the palest greyest man doesn’t get destroyed by the scum media (it’s not a shoe in yet) and then it’s back to Tory dogshit for another ten years. Place is going doing the toilet in every measurable way. Put money on Boris being PM come June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: They're all the same. Why they all kneel at big business, is beyond me. Tax them all to feck. If people believe they won't invest in the UK economy, they must be right mugs. Billions to be made even at very high tax. And if they do, nationalise the companies. BT, BP, Shell, Scottish gas, Scottish power, etc... etc... Make these ***** stop taking all the wealth out the country. Wealth out, debt replaces it, serviced by the taxpayers. It’s too late I reckon. There’s only really the NHS left to sell. Then they’ll have to find ways to sell the people. Freeports are a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, ri Alban said: Put money on Boris being PM come June. The people in this country are so ****ing dumb it honestly wouldn’t surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 43 minutes ago, Spitonastranger said: Did he have any opinion on the Tories taking away people's right to strike Nothing. He's being so well managed by his handlers that he avoids anything that could even remotely be used to trip him up. Nothing about strikes or strikers, nothing about the 'bonfire of EU laws' nothing on anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, jack D and coke said: The people in this country are so ****ing dumb it honestly wouldn’t surprise me. It's already planned for after the elections in May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitonastranger Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Nothing. He's being so well managed by his handlers that he avoids anything that could even remotely be used to trip him up. Nothing about strikes or strikers, nothing about the 'bonfire of EU laws' nothing on anything. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Starmer's big speech today. As light on detail on as Rashid's yesterday. It would be really, really good if he actually showed some policy ideas rather than just proposing to continue the shit work being done by the Tories. He's even banging on about 'taking back control' FFS Without sounding like a broken record , he can’t even acknowledge what a woman is . I’m telling you that issue as well as many other issues will be his and labours undoing at the next election . 1 hour ago, Spitonastranger said: Did he have any opinion on the Tories taking away people's right to strike He wouldn’t even join a picket line . We are talking about a Labour leader ! 1 hour ago, ri Alban said: Starmer is a fraud and the Labour party are no longer the labour party. Too busy looking for the Tory vote and forgotten who they are supposed to be for. He's shit scared of Brexit, if he had any balls he'd promise to reserve it without a referendum. How dare you assume he had balls 🏀 Just cause he’s a man 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambof3tornado Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, jack D and coke said: Keir Sunak/Rishi Starmer Up here an utterly tragic SNP these days. It’s a thoroughly depressing state of affairs the options available. Its terrible when your 1st action is to figure out who the least worst is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Without sounding like a broken record , he can’t even acknowledge what a woman is . I’m telling you that issue as well as many other issues will be his and labours undoing at the next election . I suspect that particular issue, whilst close to your heart, will be well down the list (most likely not even on the list) of issues that will determine where people put their X at the next election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Starmer is just a slightly more palatable version of the Tories. It’s quite scary that politicians are so reluctant to rock the boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said: Nothing. He's being so well managed by his handlers that he avoids anything that could even remotely be used to trip him up. Nothing about strikes or strikers, nothing about the 'bonfire of EU laws' nothing on anything. Apart from this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Apart from this FFS I actually sat and listened to his shit speech earlier on too and never heard that at all. 😂 I'm blaming LBC News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: I suspect that particular issue, whilst close to your heart, will be well down the list (most likely not even on the list) of issues that will determine where people put their X at the next election. It’ll be a factor regarding Truth and honesty and the media will Use it quite rightly to crucify Statmer imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 19 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Apart from this Well that’s good news at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: It’ll be a factor regarding Truth and honesty and the media will Use it quite rightly to crucify Statmer imo They’re all at it James. Penny Mordaunt was all for trans rights until she got a sniff of the pm job then suddenly had a change of heart. The SG’s panel has Uber unionist labour guys like Duncan Hotherall on board too. It’s weaponised by god knows who. Utterly bizarre. All of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 He'll say what's required to get elected so who knows, maybe when in power he will go back to his old 'Competent Corbyn' stance as opposed to just not being as crap as the Tories. His big problem is that unlike Blair who came to power with a growing economy, he has been given the ultimate hospital pass, with Tory austerity, economic policy and Brexit fecking public services and the economy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: They’re all at it James. Penny Mordaunt was all for trans rights until she got a sniff of the pm job then suddenly had a change of heart. The SG’s panel has Uber unionist labour guys like Duncan Hotherall on board too. It’s weaponised by god knows who. Utterly bizarre. All of it. Well the polls in Scotland were 2 thirds against the self ID issue so it’s a vote winner for the Tories really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Well the polls in Scotland were 2 thirds against the self ID issue so it’s a vote winner for the Tories really And NS still streets in front as most trusted politician or whatever it was. People ain’t voting Tory up here. Or labour imo. Labour will take some tory votes and apparently Alba will overtake Lib Dem’s. Edited January 5, 2023 by jack D and coke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: And NS still streets in front as most trusted politician or whatever it was. People ain’t voting Tory up here. Or labour imo. Labour will take some tory votes and apparently Alba will overtake Lib Dem’s. Tories not really bothered about Scottish votes in a wesminster election really so they can appeal to their core group down south Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Tories not really bothered about Scottish votes in a wesminster election really so they can appeal to their core group down south Neither labour nor conservatives need to care a jot about a single vote up here I suppose. It’s been proven that they don’t need a single vote up here to win a GE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Neither labour nor conservatives need to care a jot about a single vote up here I suppose. It’s been proven that they don’t need a single vote up here to win a GE. Yep . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Don't mind Keir or his shadow cabinet, I get the impression that some of them actually care about the NHS and the county Whereas the tory filth are only bothered about themselves and thier backers . I know it's not a high benchmark to be better than the tory filth but it is what it is . Arise Sir Keir our next PM When he visits our first minister he can stay at our new hotel .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) Did anyone bother listening or researching? Starmer has clearly said that Labour would repeal any legislation to bring in these anti industrial action laws. He also, quite clearly, talked about empowering regions and cities with powers currently retained centrally. A policy is what that is. He also, quite clearly, said his policy would be to conduct talks and negotiations with unions, instead of refusing to discuss pay because of bullshit 'independent review panel' decisions and using public sector employers as proxy stooges. A policy. Edited January 5, 2023 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, Victorian said: Did anyone bother listening or researching? Starmer has clearly said that Labour would repeal any legislation to bring in these anti industrial action laws. He also, quite clearly, talked about empowering regions and cities with powers currently retained centrally. A policy is what that is. He also, quite clearly, said his policy would be to conduct talks and negotiations with unions, instead of refusing to discuss pay because of bullshit 'independent review panel' decisions and using public sector employers as proxy stooges. A policy. He said nothing. A Tory ******* in a labour disguise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, ri Alban said: He said nothing. A Tory ******* in a labour disguise. I must have imagined the interview I thought I watched. The red Tory schtick is really dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 37 minutes ago, Victorian said: Did anyone bother listening or researching? Starmer has clearly said that Labour would repeal any legislation to bring in these anti industrial action laws. He also, quite clearly, talked about empowering regions and cities with powers currently retained centrally. A policy is what that is. He also, quite clearly, said his policy would be to conduct talks and negotiations with unions, instead of refusing to discuss pay because of bullshit 'independent review panel' decisions and using public sector employers as proxy stooges. A policy. Between 1997-2010 can you tell me which anti union laws the labour government repealed that were brought in under Thatcher and Major Conservative governments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, John Findlay said: Between 1997-2010 can you tell me which anti union laws the labour government repealed that were brought in under Thatcher and Major Conservative governments? No. But I was referring to Starmer and Labour's words today. Whether they do repeal any new laws is open to opinion. If they don't then they'll need to answer for it. But that's their position at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Costanza said: He'll say what's required to get elected so who knows, maybe when in power he will go back to his old 'Competent Corbyn' stance as opposed to just not being as crap as the Tories. His big problem is that unlike Blair who came to power with a growing economy, he has been given the ultimate hospital pass, with Tory austerity, economic policy and Brexit fecking public services and the economy That's a cracking analogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) Starmer said absolutely nothing other than 3 work sloganism and opinion. No policy on anything other than make Brexit work and take back control. The rest? Just the same as the Tory and they like that the Tory are going to do their bidding on the Unions. Labour aren't labour, they are Red Tory lite. Anything for power. Edited January 5, 2023 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Keith changes with the wind - his shadow cabinet are an utter joke and not to be trusted. Labour would be an absolute disaster in government Rishi will clawback the polls over next couple of years and hopefully get another term and UK back on track . Huzzah ! Labour are shit FACT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, manaliveits105 said: Keith changes with the wind - his shadow cabinet are an utter joke and not to be trusted. Labour would be an absolute disaster in government Rishi will clawback the polls over next couple of years and hopefully get another term and UK back on track . Huzzah ! Labour are shit FACT you been propping up the bar in Stratties gadjie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 52 minutes ago, Victorian said: Did anyone bother listening or researching? Starmer has clearly said that Labour would repeal any legislation to bring in these anti industrial action laws. He also, quite clearly, talked about empowering regions and cities with powers currently retained centrally. A policy is what that is. He also, quite clearly, said his policy would be to conduct talks and negotiations with unions, instead of refusing to discuss pay because of bullshit 'independent review panel' decisions and using public sector employers as proxy stooges. A policy. I actually sat and listened to it on LBC news. Like Rashids one yesterday it's a period of my life I won't get back. I genuinely never heard the bit about Labour repealling any employment legislation but I've subsequently seen the video 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, Victorian said: No. But I was referring to Starmer and Labour's words today. Whether they do repeal any new laws is open to opinion. If they don't then they'll need to answer for it. But that's their position at the moment. I will categorically state now that if Labour form the next government, that they WILL NOT repeal any existing or new laws brought in by conservative governments with regards to the trade unions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, John Findlay said: I will categorically state now that if Labour form the next government, that they WILL NOT repeal any existing or new laws brought in by conservative governments with regards to the trade unions. Sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT1959 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 On news earlier it was explained that the Tory Strike policy was released “after” Starters speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Jeffros Furios said: you been propping up the bar in Stratties gadjie Long time ago 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 https://www.thenational.scot/news/23251681.keir-starmer-concerns-scotlands-gender-laws/?fbclid=IwAR1r3N6Dz84-VPVjaoOyioNfBYK549Ykkd8MJACpWlWShySTl_qVW87fUwc Oh well a stopped clock us at least right twice a day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Albert Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Labour actually saying some interesting things about reforming the NHS. Both their Health spokesman recently and today Starmer in the Telegraph of all places. Any proposals from the Tories would be portrayed as an attack on a much loved institution so Labour is the best hope for much needed reform. Reduction in bureaucracy and giving patients access to treatments and consultants without the barrier of increasingly unavailable GPs. GPs over time becoming NHS employees rather than profit making businesses. To quote Starmer "the idea the service is still the envy of the world is plainly wrong". and "well meaning reverance has supplanted reality. Could be a vote winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) I would happily give Labour a chance to govern to see what they can do Edited January 15, 2023 by Nucky Thompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Francis Albert said: Labour actually saying some interesting things about reforming the NHS. Both their Health spokesman recently and today Starmer in the Telegraph of all places. Any proposals from the Tories would be portrayed as an attack on a much loved institution so Labour is the best hope for much needed reform. Reduction in bureaucracy and giving patients access to treatments and consultants without the barrier of increasingly unavailable GPs. GPs over time becoming NHS employees rather than profit making businesses. To quote Starmer "the idea the service is still the envy of the world is plainly wrong". and "well meaning reverance has supplanted reality. Could be a vote winner. Self referall was one of them and I’ve never heard anything dafter in my life unless I’ve picked it up wrong. People just deciding who they need to see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, jack D and coke said: Self referall was one of them and I’ve never heard anything dafter in my life unless I’ve picked it up wrong. People just deciding who they need to see? Yes im wondering what that means too ? Surely we all " self refer" when contacting the GP anyway.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack D and coke Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Yes im wondering what that means too ? Surely we all " self refer" when contacting the GP anyway.? I believe it was to do with seeing someone at a hospital. You decide yourself who you want to see. Surely not but that’s what it sounded like… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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