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FarmerTweedy
18 hours ago, FionaHmfc said:

Larnaca to play Partizan Belgrade. Think I’m right in saying the chances of us getting them or Fenerbache/Dynamo Kiev v Slovacko are higher since this lot are in pot 4. Pot 1 draws teams from Pot 4 first and then it moves onto Pot 3? 

There's an equal chance (14.29)% of us being drawn against any of the tie winners from pots three and four.  There's a higher likelihood of facing a team from pot 3 (71.43%) than from pot 4 (28.57%) due to there being 5 ties in pot 3 and only 2 in pot 4.  It makes no difference at all to the chances whether it's pot 4 drawn first or pot 3.

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Is the play off round draw seeded or random?  I guess what I am asking is do we know we will be away first?  Got something potentially planned for 18th August.

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Ricardo Quaresma
59 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said:

There's an equal chance (14.29)% of us being drawn against any of the tie winners from pots three and four.  There's a higher likelihood of facing a team from pot 3 (71.43%) than from pot 4 (28.57%) due to there being 5 ties in pot 3 and only 2 in pot 4.  It makes no difference at all to the chances whether it's pot 4 drawn first or pot 3.

 

If we don't get the 1st pot 4 opponent, it then becomes 5-1, that we get the 2nd pot 4 opponent

 

Just sayin'...

 

 

 

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57 minutes ago, TexasAndy said:

Is the play off round draw seeded or random?  I guess what I am asking is do we know we will be away first?  Got something potentially planned for 18th August.

 

Not seeded as the draw is made before the teams are confirmed.  Not been confirmed yet, but if it's the same as the Q3 draw which I suspect it will be, the first team drawn will be the home team for the first leg.  Could of course then be swapped around depending on circumstances eg. a city with 2 or more teams due to play on the same night.

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7 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

If we don't get the 1st pot 4 opponent, it them becomes 5-1, that we get the 2nd pot 4 opponent

 

Just sayin'...

 

If you change any of the parameters then of course the odds are going to change.  If we don't get either of the two pot 4 teams then there's a 100% chance we're going to get a pot 3 team...

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Ricardo Quaresma
58 minutes ago, TexasAndy said:

Is the play off round draw seeded or random?  I guess what I am asking is do we know we will be away first?  Got something potentially planned for 18th August.

 

It's not seeded, 7 teams will be drawn against 7 teams

 

We will know whether we are at home when the draw is done; the problem is, if it's away, then we won't know where until the other 2 teams finish their matches; we play the winner

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Ricardo Quaresma
1 minute ago, Waterboy said:

 

If you change any of the parameters then of course the odds are going to change.  If we don't get either of the two pot 4 teams then there's a 100% chance we're going to get a pot 3 team...

 

That's obviously what we need; the thing about this is that it's subject to the law of random

 

I don't like the law of random; it especially sucks in Scottish domestic cups and it has sucked in Europe before too

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25 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

It's not seeded, 7 teams will be drawn against 7 teams

 

We will know whether we are at home when the draw is done; the problem is, if it's away, then we won't know where until the other 2 teams finish their matches; we play the winner

Ok thanks.

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28 minutes ago, Waterboy said:

 

Not seeded as the draw is made before the teams are confirmed.  Not been confirmed yet, but if it's the same as the Q3 draw which I suspect it will be, the first team drawn will be the home team for the first leg.  Could of course then be swapped around depending on circumstances eg. a city with 2 or more teams due to play on the same night.

Ok thanks.  

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Ricardo Quaresma
1 minute ago, TexasAndy said:

Ok thanks.  

NP

 

If we are drawn at home, plus utd play at home, it may be that utd will be switched to away leg first; if dundee is within 30 miles (is it?) because they are in the lower competition

 

Normally, it would be because of lower co-efficient, but ours is the same as theirs, 7.380

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1 minute ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

NP

 

If we are drawn at home, plus utd play at home, it may be that utd will be switched to away leg first; if dundee is within 30 miles (is it?) because they are in the lower competition

 

Normally, it would be because of lower co-efficient, but ours is the same as theirs, 7.380

Cool.  My query is purely selfish in the sense that if we are at home on the 18th I will want to be 2 places at once.  No contest in the end!

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Ricardo Quaresma
5 minutes ago, TexasAndy said:

Cool.  My query is purely selfish in the sense that if we are at home on the 18th I will want to be 2 places at once.  No contest in the end!

 

Well, if UEFA switch a location of a tie, you'll know within 24 hours

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AlphonseCapone
17 hours ago, Waterboy said:

Possible opponents whittled down to...

 

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Cheers, this is really handy. Few obvious teams we'd want to avoid there. 

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iwasthere1954
34 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

NP

 

If we are drawn at home, plus utd play at home, it may be that utd will be switched to away leg first; if dundee is within 30 miles (is it?) because they are in the lower competition

 

Normally, it would be because of lower co-efficient, but ours is the same as theirs, 7.380

Dundee is more than 40 miles from Edinburgh. 

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FarmerTweedy
1 hour ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

If we don't get the 1st pot 4 opponent, it then becomes 5-1, that we get the 2nd pot 4 opponent

 

Just sayin'...

 

 

 

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If we don't get any of the first 6 potential opponents drawn out, it becomes a 100% certainty that we get the other one!  So what?

 

And why do people so often follow up utterly stupid statements with "just sayin'"??????

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Heartsmad1874
15 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

The big question on everyone's lips tonight is will Bodo score at least 2 goals?


1-0 already so i'd say yes definitely

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Just now, Heartsmad1874 said:


1-0 already so i'd say yes definitely

I knkw someone who will be happy.

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1 minute ago, Heartsmad1874 said:

Just found the Bodo game on IPTV

Watching it out the corner of my eye. Bodo look like they’ll wipe the floor with this mob

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Heartsmad1874
15 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

I knkw someone who will be happy.


Theres the second. Linfield down to 10.

 

Looks like their gonna drop and play the loser from Qarabag/Zurich.

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Ricardo Quaresma
23 minutes ago, FarmerTweedy said:

If we don't get any of the first 6 potential opponents drawn out, it becomes a 100% certainty that we get the other one!  So what?

 

And why do people so often follow up utterly stupid statements with "just sayin'"??????

 

FS, who pissed on your chips :rofl:

 

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Ricardo Quaresma
57 minutes ago, iwasthere1954 said:

Dundee is more than 40 miles from Edinburgh. 

 

48 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Thankfully. 

 

Good

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Ricardo Quaresma

Fenerbahce V Dynamo Kyiv in 25 minutes

 

Would rather not play Kyiv out of those two

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Just now, Ricardo Quaresma said:

Fenerbahce V Dynamo Kyiv in 25 minutes

 

Would rather not play Kyiv out of those two

We’ll need to avoid both of those I think

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The Hogfather
1 minute ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

Fenerbahce V Dynamo Kyiv in 25 minutes

 

Would rather not play Kyiv out of those two

 

Trip to Poland would be a good trip, however we'd certainly go out.

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Ricardo Quaresma
Just now, JimmyCant said:

We’ll need to avoid both of those I think

 

Absolutely

 

1 of them go tonight; rather that was Kyiv

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Ricardo Quaresma
2 minutes ago, The Hogfather said:

 

Trip to Poland would be a good trip, however we'd certainly go out.

 

I'd rather Kyiv knocked the turks out tonight; wonder what the odds are

 

ETA: Kyiv are 3/1 to win tonight

 

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RustyRightPeg
15 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said:

Hope bongo has enough tissues tonight 


Literally just came here after I saw the score and was gonna comment on bongo glimt 😂 

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Heartsmad1874
Just now, hughesie27 said:

Zurich pull 1 back v Qarabag

 

2-3


Need Qarabag to win this can't have them in the same draw as us😥

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Just now, hughesie27 said:

Zurich pull 1 back v Qarabag

Now level on agg. We really want Zurich to lose this and avoid a possible nightmare trip 

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Heartsmad1874
2 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

Now level on agg. We really want Zurich to lose this and avoid a possible nightmare trip 


Be looking at about £700-900 and thats flying from London

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davemclaren
1 minute ago, Heartsmad1874 said:


Be looking at about £700-900 and thats flying from London

I think your travel insurance might be expensive. 😄

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7 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

Now level on agg. We really want Zurich to lose this and avoid a possible nightmare trip 

Ah. Flashscore had the score updated but now the Agg score.

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Heartsmad1874
3 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

I think your travel insurance might be expensive. 😄


You'd have to have pretty deep pockets to be going to that

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Do we have a rough idea what sort of teams we might face in the groups yet? For either Comp. Obviously there will be quite a lot.

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Heartsmad1874
1 minute ago, hughesie27 said:

Do we have a rough idea what sort of teams we might face in the groups yet? For either Comp.


 

Europa League Group Stage

Roma

Man Utd

Arsenal

Lazio

Braga

Feyenoord

Rennes

Real Sociedad

Real Betis

Union Berlin

Freiburg

Nantes

 

Nobody confirmed for Conference League group stage yet

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3 minutes ago, Heartsmad1874 said:

Pretty chastening night for Linfield. 7-0

 

Very impressive from Bodo, all on a budget similar to that of Albion Rovers I believe which makes it all the more impressive.

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Heartsmad1874
Just now, hughesie27 said:

Zalgaris take the lead v Malmo. 2-0 agg.


Not good but then i suppose if Malmo are losing over two legs they must now be the inferior team. Still wouldn't fancy us against them.

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The Hogfather

Actually happy about Malmo potentially going out. A very tough side, but far easier to get to than Vilnius.

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