gar jambo Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Faded Seat said: Dunno why I’ve been dragged into your reply about “Dundee” Ok mate it was not for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamhammer Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, stevie1874 said: Big difference throwing guys in against Bassey, Tavernier, Goodson etc. We were playing against Rocky & Porteous And Porteous had been booked. Someone running at him would have seen him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leisham38 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 After going two up at home to Forest, Newcastle made 5 subs. Anderson remained on the bench. Only one of three outfield players to do so. You’d expect Newcastle to buy a couple more and they had 4 players out injured. Surely for his development a loan move would be better. If I was Joe I’d be checking back in this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 43 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Well last I read was his agent said he was happy there just now and would be happy to stay until the end of the season Exactly the same wording as for the Japanese lad last year. Is it the same agent?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jamhammer said: And Porteous had been booked. Someone running at him would have seen him off. So had their LB early doors. Yet we decided at no point to play with width and make them challenge again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Leisham38 said: After going two up at home to Forest, Newcastle made 5 subs. Anderson remained on the bench. Only one of three outfield players to do so. You’d expect Newcastle to buy a couple more and they had 4 players out injured. Surely for his development a loan move would be better. If I was Joe I’d be checking back in this morning Wishful thinking mate. The guy is more talented than Billy Gilmour (who I rate) but he got an EPL loan. Lets not set ourselves up for yet another fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Leisham38 said: After going two up at home to Forest, Newcastle made 5 subs. Anderson remained on the bench. Only one of three outfield players to do so. You’d expect Newcastle to buy a couple more and they had 4 players out injured. Surely for his development a loan move would be better. If I was Joe I’d be checking back in this morning Boro have had a loan and a £4m bid turned down for him recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Exactly the same wording as for the Japanese lad last year. Is it the same agent?? no idea mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just now, Robbies Tackle said: Boro have had a loan and a £4m bid turned down for him recently. That might be because it’s Boro though, it’s not quite Sunderland but it isn’t far off rivalry wise. They rate the lad. Newcastle Social media team were gushing over him in pre season. If I was to put a percentage on it I’d guess less than 20% chance we’re gonna get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I've no idea if there's a chance of getting Anderson, but this time last year Woodburn had "impressed in pre-season". He was also making the bench in EPL games, and we were getting stories that Klopp wanted to keep him in the squad. I think he'll most likely go on loan to a Championship team once Newcastle have sorted their incoming business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, ramrod said: As it pushes towards the end of the window players will start commiting to clubs. It's inevitable that the quality of player we are now after will have options It's just a case of being patient and I've no doubt Savage and the rest of the team will be working round the clock on getting deals over the line Forrest, Shankland, Grant and Knowles are all evidence of the quality Savage has been able to attract , I have zero worries he will deliver another couple , its just a case of being patient till the right players are ready to commit. But what of every other team that have got obviously key players in by now? Why are we the only ones waiting for their “major” signings? Edited August 8, 2022 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Wishful thinking mate. The guy is more talented than Billy Gilmour (who I rate) but he got an EPL loan. Lets not set ourselves up for yet another fall. That is a wild, wild shout. He's played 3 minutes of first team football above League Two level. Have you even seen him play? Gilmour had played 22 times for Chelsea and won man of the match at the Euros against England before getting an EPL loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 I’m starting to think our remaining signings are going to be loans, with our permanent transfer business (inbound at least) being done. That we’re waiting late into the window because we have to be patient on other team’s doing their business. As if it was us going for a player on a permanent, the need to wait is less for all parties involved, dependent on the circumstances of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: That might be because it’s Boro though, it’s not quite Sunderland but it isn’t far off rivalry wise. They rate the lad. Newcastle Social media team were gushing over him in pre season. If I was to put a percentage on it I’d guess less than 20% chance we’re gonna get him. While I of course hope you would be correct I would have to argue in terms of location, league and club Middlesbrough would be ideal for the guy if out on loan. We are more likely to get a Boro loan player not going to play because of Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, DC_92 said: That is a wild, wild shout. He's played 3 minutes of first team football above League Two level. Have you even seen him play? Gilmour had played 22 times for Chelsea and won man of the match at the Euros against England before getting an EPL loan. Ok. You think we’ll get him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: I’m starting to think our remaining signings are going to be loans, with our permanent transfer business (inbound at least) being done. That we’re waiting late into the window because we have to be patient on other team’s doing their business. As if it was us going for a player on a permanent, the need to wait is less for all parties involved, dependent on the circumstances of course. Or we are waiting for a scrag end that is released at the end of the window. Great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 23 minutes ago, DC_92 said: That is a wild, wild shout. He's played 3 minutes of first team football above League Two level. Have you even seen him play? Gilmour had played 22 times for Chelsea and won man of the match at the Euros against England before getting an EPL loan. Of course he hasn't. It's a nonsensical post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Ok. You think we’ll get him? No idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: Ok. You think we’ll get him? Maybe we will, maybe we won't. Why are you panicking about signings when we have professionals who are actually paid to perform this task? Just relax and leave it to them instead of constantly worrying over something you can't change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Probably get the “we are happy with what we’ve got”patter in the next week or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: But what of every other team that have got obviously key players in by now? Why are we the only ones waiting for their “major” signings? I would imagine that the club believe Shankland to be a ‘major’ signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Maybe we will, maybe we won't. Why are you panicking about signings when we have professionals who are actually paid to perform this task? Just relax and leave it to them instead of constantly worrying over something you can't change. I’m not worried. If the club choose not to really push on with signings this summer I will accept that that’s our model and that we can’t spend decent money on the players they want in time for the early stages of the season. I will therefore accept that we aren’t capable of really pushing forward as we have been told. If we all know the score then worry or hope disappears and you accept your position. We’d have to accept that we don’t have the money to spend like our rivals - but that would be disappointing given what we have been told to date about ambitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Agentjambo said: Probably get the “we are happy with what we’ve got”patter in the next week or two. We’ll be signing more players. That ‘patter’ will happen after they sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I would imagine that the club believe Shankland to be a ‘major’ signing. He’s a good signing, agreed. He doesn’t take us to the next level though. He just replaces the goals we all thought Boyce would be scoring but can’t anymore. Thats my point. He isn’t of a standard we couldn’t have got in last season. Doesn’t mean I think he is bad but it feels as if our player signings/targets this summer are stuck in or left overs from our 2021 basket not our “next level” 2022 campaign. Edited August 8, 2022 by Tom Hardy’s Dug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 20 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: I’m starting to think our remaining signings are going to be loans, with our permanent transfer business (inbound at least) being done. That we’re waiting late into the window because we have to be patient on other team’s doing their business. As if it was us going for a player on a permanent, the need to wait is less for all parties involved, dependent on the circumstances of course. Loans are most likely, but there are still quite a few free agents with decent pedigrees and there'll also be players in the last year of their contracts that clubs will most likely be looking to cash in on (Paddy Lane?). Basically, I think it's a bit early to draw that conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 hour ago, All roads lead to Gorgie said: Yes, and then we can finally open the Bucks Fizz Not sure, far too many still be living in the land of make believe here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, davemclaren said: I would imagine that the club believe Shankland to be a ‘major’ signing. Of course. But he isn't an improvement on Simms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: He’s a good signing, agreed. He doesn’t take us to the next level though. He just replaces the goals we all thought Boyce would be scoring but can’t anymore. Thats my point. He isn’t of a standard we couldn’t have got in last season. Doesn’t mean I think he is bad but it feels as if our player signings/targets this summer are stuck in or left overs from our 2021 basket not our “next level” 2022 campaign. This mythical ‘next level’ is, for me, maintaining out third place regularly. Something we haven’t achieved very often in our history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Robbies Tackle said: Of course. But he isn't an improvement on Simms. It’s almost unfortunate that Simms turned out so good for us. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just now, Robbies Tackle said: Of course. But he isn't an improvement on Simms. I don’t know how anyone can reach that conclusion after 2 games. If he continued to score a goal every two games will you change your mind? Totally different players but they both bring important things to the side. Comparing them isn’t simple imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just now, davemclaren said: This mythical ‘next level’ is, for me, maintaining out third place regularly. Something we haven’t achieved very often in our history. The next level for me is incrementally increasing the quality of players we sign as we bring in more income. We haven’t done that this season. we are shopping from the same if not a lower standard than last year. SPL level players (Shankland, Forest, Neilson), token Aussie, and Grant who I like but the most positive noises about him I have read are that he is like Ollie Lee but more mobile (and I liked Ollie Lee) Even one of our marquee targets - Lee. Is he of a higher standard than the Japanese lad we were after last year? Not obviously from what I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I don’t know how anyone can reach that conclusion after 2 games. If he continued to score a goal every two games will you change your mind? Totally different players but they both bring important things to the side. Comparing them isn’t simple imo. It depends how many other goals were scored in each game and by which team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Since we are after players to make us better, we will be after players who can get a game at English championship level, but we can't compete with them wages wise. I imagine we have to wait for those players who don't get picked up by a team right at the end of the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 The transfer window is a chain reaction. Take Obafemi last year. Man United sign Ronaldo, sell Dan James to Leeds, Swansea net 2 million sell on and buy Obafemi. It's waiting for players to become spare or penny drops they are not wanted where they are, books getting balanced and so on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just now, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: It depends how many other goals were scored in each game and by which team. 😂 that’s a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: The next level for me is incrementally increasing the quality of players we sign as we bring in more income. We haven’t done that this season. we are shopping from the same if not a lower standard than last year. SPL level players (Shankland, Forest, Neilson), token Aussie, and Grant who I like but the most positive noises about him I have read are that he is like Ollie Lee but more mobile (and I liked Ollie Lee) Even one of our marquee targets - Lee. Is he of a higher standard than the Japanese lad we were after last year? Not obviously from what I can see. Token Aussie bit clueless mate. If you can't see he is a quality signing you are not going to be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 47 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: But what of every other team that have got obviously key players in by now? Why are we the only ones waiting for their “major” signings? We don't know if that's the case, other clubs could and probably will be still on the look out for players Aberdeen and particularly Hibs are persuing a scatter gun policy where as it looks like we are being a bit more selective in our signings. I prefer the way we're going about our business but i get the frustration from some fans it's understandable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I don’t know how anyone can reach that conclusion after 2 games. If he continued to score a goal every two games will you change your mind? Totally different players but they both bring important things to the side. Comparing them isn’t simple imo. Good post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Token Aussie bit clueless mate. If you can't see he is a quality signing you are not going to be happy He looks decent. A bit naive but he looks good. I haven’t said we have signed shite. But we don’t seem to be close to the same market we we’re last season - EPL potential players from their U23 teams for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: The transfer window is a chain reaction. Take Obafemi last year. Man United sign Ronaldo, sell Dan James to Leeds, Swansea net 2 million sell on and buy Obafemi. It's waiting for players to become spare or penny drops they are not wanted where they are, books getting balanced and so on One perfect example. Are we going for players of better quality than Obafemi this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, ramrod said: We don't know if that's the case, other clubs could and probably will be still on the look out for players Aberdeen and particularly Hibs are persuing a scatter gun policy where as it looks like we are being a bit more selective in our signings. I prefer the way we're going about our business but i get the frustration from some fans it's understandable Hibs yes. Aberdeen don’t look scattergun to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, ramrod said: We don't know if that's the case, other clubs could and probably will be still on the look out for players Aberdeen and particularly Hibs are persuing a scatter gun policy where as it looks like we are being a bit more selective in our signings. I prefer the way we're going about our business but i get the frustration from some fans it's understandable Not too sure how accurate this is,Aberdeen have signed few internationalists including a striker who got a brace at the weekend and another striker who scored on his full debut. Hibs have just signed an international winger who won them a point against us,we need to get the finger out imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Leveins Battalion said: Not too sure how accurate this is,Aberdeen have signed few internationalists including a striker who got a brace at the weekend and another striker who scored on his full debut. Hibs have just signed an international winger who won them a point against us,we need to get the finger out imo. Hibs we’re lucky with Boyle. I don’t think any of us would have complained about signing Miovski though. We’d have been delighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I don’t know how anyone can reach that conclusion after 2 games. If he continued to score a goal every two games will you change your mind? Totally different players but they both bring important things to the side. Comparing them isn’t simple imo. Of course if he does so but as it stands we have downgraded up top and in defence. We definitely need more bodies even to compliment Shankland. Especially with all the games we are to play coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just now, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: One perfect example. Are we going for players of better quality than Obafemi this year? I agree with you to a certain extent, but you have to look at the perspective that the squad was also thin last year, these players theoretically give us better cover. I agree we need better players, Rowles I think fits the bill, we do want 2 preferably 3 bits of quality, but they cost and often wait very late because they do have options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, davemclaren said: It’s almost unfortunate that Simms turned out so good for us. 😄 Thems the breaks of a loan deal sadly eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just now, Robbies Tackle said: Of course if he does so but as it stands we have downgraded up top and in defence. We definitely need more bodies even to compliment Shankland. Especially with all the games we are to play coming up. As it stands we don’t know if we’ve downgraded. The two players in question have only played two games. Give them a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Just now, Leveins Battalion said: Not too sure how accurate this is,Aberdeen have signed few internationalists including a striker who got a brace at the weekend and another striker who scored on his full debut. Hibs have just signed an international winger who won them a point against us,we need to get the finger out imo. Obv but they have signed some utter shite aswell .Boyle isn't up for debate but their other signings wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 11, infact only Boyle and Cadden look anywhere near the required standard . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Our transfer budget this season is no different to last years. Hence why we are signing players of similar budget and “funnily enough”ability to last year. Our budget next season will be healthier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Token Aussie bit clueless mate. If you can't see he is a quality signing you are not going to be happy In the same way it's impossible to write someone off after two games, the opposite is also true. It's far too soon to know the quality, or not, of any of our new signings yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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