il Duce McTarkin Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dazo said: Moan like **** on a football forum ? That will show them. Seriously though, short of torching our local Shell office, what weapons do the general public have at their disposal? The level of profiteering going on is practically robbery. It's just another transfer of wealth from the poor to the better off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, Dazo said: Moan like **** on a football forum ? That will show them. 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 46 minutes ago, Dazo said: Moan like **** on a football forum ? That will show them. multiple times a day though he must be making a difference surely ……… nope not a jot 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Only 5% of the shell profit worldwide figure relates to UK Start jailing energy executives with excessive retained profits that will bring prices down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Dazo said: Moan like **** on a football forum ? That will show them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, manaliveits105 said: multiple times a day though he must be making a difference surely ……… nope not a jot 😂 Village quiet today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, The Mighty Thor said: Village quiet today? Think he’s at the pub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, The Mighty Thor said: Village quiet today? Toenails is best ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Dirk McTarkin said: Seriously though, short of torching our local Shell office, what weapons do the general public have at their disposal? The level of profiteering going on is practically robbery. It's just another transfer of wealth from the poor to the better off. The only weapon is our vote. Unfortunately we don’t get to use that often enough to make an immediate difference. I don’t mind businesses making money and not fan out of windfall tax but looking like the only way to get something back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Dirk McTarkin said: Seriously though, short of torching our local Shell office, what weapons do the general public have at their disposal? The level of profiteering going on is practically robbery. It's just another transfer of wealth from the poor to the better off. Not a lot, change suppliers if you can find a cheaper tariff elsewhere & try and make energy savings on your own amount of energy usage, simply put, the lower your bill = the less amount of profit they make from you, I think that's the only real options open to most people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Shell reporting record profits of only £32 billion. By the way your energy bill is going up 40% in April. But we can’t impose a windfall tax on them, or they’ll be forced to cut jobs! Poor energy firms, running on a shoestring budget so they are… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 The people of France took to the streets to protest a 2 year increase to the pension age, meanwhile saddos in this country see it as some kind of badge of honour when their quality of life is decimated just so businesses can generate record profits… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Shell reporting record profits of only £32 billion. By the way your energy bill is going up 40% in April. Fair brought a tear to my eye knowing I've been part of contributing to some corporation making record profits. I can't find the words to describe such a colossal achievement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 "We can't tax them, they'll stop investing in Britain" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cade said: "We can't tax them, they'll stop investing in Britain" UK government: You’re making an awful lot of profit right now, and the customers who are funding it are struggling live. We’re going to take some of those profits. Oil & gas company: Do that and we’ll cut jobs. Besides, we’re going to invest those profits back into our business. UK government: Will that benefit the customers by lowering their bills? Oil & gas company has left the chat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 How about we nationalise them and use half the profits to lower the prices at the pumps and the other half to give public sector workers a pay rise? Big business is ripping the absolute pish out of the Uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter McGavin Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cade said: How about we nationalise them and use half the profits to lower the prices at the pumps and the other half to give public sector workers a pay rise? Big business is ripping the absolute pish out of the Uk. Someone will be along shortly to tell you that’s the most backwards, inconceivably mental and disastrous idea that anyone has ever thought of, ever. How will the private shareholders cope eh? Did you even consider them at all? Much better to stick with what we’ve got and let the private companies run riot unchallenged. That’ll serve us better in the long run, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said: Someone will be along shortly to tell you that’s the most backwards, inconceivably mental and disastrous idea that anyone has ever thought of, ever. How will the private shareholders cope eh? Did you even consider them at all? Much better to stick with what we’ve got and let the private companies run riot unchallenged. That’ll serve us better in the long run, apparently. 'let the markets decide' I believe is the mantra of the those filling their pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I don't have a problem with profits, but we all need to benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said: 'let the markets decide' I believe is the mantra of the those filling their pockets. Which itself is absolute bollocks. There are many, many thousands of subsidies and tax breaks available for various different types of business. Around £80 billion a year, on average, depending on what's offered and how many apply. The UK is not a free market economy. They just pretend it is. And I include housing benefit in that. That's your taxes being given straight to landlords, so they can keep their rents nice and high. That's another £23.4 billion a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 A lot of these profits is paid out in dividends to 'the shareholders'. A lot of the share holdings is owned by the pension funds. Guess who tends to have pension policies with the pension funds that are performing on steroids due to excess, unexpected, unearned, fixed & fiddled global marketplace derived profits... and who tends to not afford to have such pensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Meanwhile... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64491243 People should be going to prison for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Victorian said: Meanwhile... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64491243 People should be going to prison for this. To be fair to them , they've 'paused' the procedure. 😂 Probably not great optics on the day one of your rivals turns 32 billion profit to have your rent a thugs booting pensioners doors in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, Victorian said: Meanwhile... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64491243 People should be going to prison for this. Especially the debt collectors who think that because they have a court order that that let's them do whatever they want. I sincerely hope that the tw@t in the video I seen this morning spent all afternoon in the jobcentre today, complete scumbag of the highest order, he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: To be fair to them , they've 'paused' the procedure. 😂 Probably not great optics on the day one of your rivals turns 32 billion profit to have your rent a thugs booting pensioners doors in If only we had the option to elect a government who might enact some new legislation and regulations to force a code of conduct on predatory parasites. All underpinned by the threat of financial and criminal penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, Victorian said: If only we had the option to elect a government who might enact some new legislation and regulations to force a code of conduct on predatory parasites. All underpinned by the threat of financial and criminal penalties. 😂 They can't even get rid of the bullies and tax dodgers from within. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Especially the debt collectors who think that because they have a court order that that let's them do whatever they want. I sincerely hope that the tw@t in the video I seen this morning spent all afternoon in the jobcentre today, complete scumbag of the highest order, he was. It's what happens when you allow private enterprises to operate, red in tooth and claw in the jungle, without keeping an eye on them and telling them what is and isn't acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, The Mighty Thor said: 😂 They can't even get rid of the bullies and tax dodgers from within. Don't you have to be either or both to be in this government? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Victorian said: Don't you have to be either or both to be in this government? No you can also be a nonce. There's plenty noncing from that lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Victorian said: It's what happens when you allow private enterprises to operate, red in tooth and claw in the jungle, without keeping an eye on them and telling them what is and isn't acceptable. It's all about reaching their targets so they can get their commission, there are some real hardnosed scumbags amongst that lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, The Mighty Thor said: No you can also be a nonce. There's plenty noncing from that lot Forgot that qualifying criteria. Despite the wealth of previous examples. Tax thief [ ] Bully / sociopath [ ] Nonce [ ] (tick where appropriate) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 7 hours ago, Dazo said: Moan like **** on a football forum ? That will show them. What do you suggest? Hanging the crooked b******s? Maybe if the junta called an election we could vote them out and bring in an administration that isn't just in it for the elite. Looks like they will hang on as long as they can and wreak maximum damage to the cou try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il Duce McTarkin Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, i wish jj was my dad said: What do you suggest? Hanging the crooked b******s? 2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: No you can also be a nonce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Especially the debt collectors who think that because they have a court order that that let's them do whatever they want. I sincerely hope that the tw@t in the video I seen this morning spent all afternoon in the jobcentre today, complete scumbag of the highest order, he was. I suppose one good thing about Scotland is this kind of thing isn’t allowed . I hate all those “ poverty porn” programmes too , like “ can’t pay won’t pay “ etc . Repulsive “ tv “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: I suppose one good thing about Scotland is this kind of thing isn’t allowed . I hate all those “ poverty porn” programmes too , like “ can’t pay won’t pay “ etc . Repulsive “ tv “ Not allowed nowadays, however I can remember the days when the sheriff's held warrant sales in people's houses and gardens, brutal back in those days, guess England will catch up with Scotland eventually and ban the dreconian practices which take place there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, jonesy said: Exactly. Saves fitting prepayment meters in their homes. Oh, you mean... Ah. They would if they could get away with it. Right, you're poor. Off to prison with you. You'll need to pay for your keep though. You'll need to sign away your state pension or your organs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said: I suppose one good thing about Scotland is this kind of thing isn’t allowed . I hate all those “ poverty porn” programmes too , like “ can’t pay won’t pay “ etc . Repulsive “ tv “ I watched it happen to a neighbour's house about 3 years ago, they picked the lock, changed the meter, and locked the door behind them when they left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Smithee said: I watched it happen to a neighbour's house about 3 years ago, they picked the lock, changed the meter, and locked the door behind them when they left. That’s a surprise . I’m positive that debt collectors can’t enter houses though in Scotland . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, JudyJudyJudy said: That’s a surprise . I’m positive that debt collectors can’t enter houses though in Scotland . They weren't collecting debt, they were changing the meter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, Smithee said: They weren't collecting debt, they were changing the meter. Perfectly legal too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Smithee said: They weren't collecting debt, they were changing the meter. Hopefully a big feck off Dog is sleeping when he walks in and wakes it up. And it hates being woken up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 01/02/2023 at 06:48, Dazo said: Might be usual for some Octopus are allowing new customers to sign up to their tracker tariff. This tariff tracks the wholesale price so can be a lot cheaper than standard tariffs many of us are on. You need to switch from your current supplier first then switch to the tracker tariff once switch over. You need to keep an eye on it though as obviously wholesale prices go up as well as down. It’s a lot cheaper at the moment though for those on standard tariffs. You need a smart meter to get this tariff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: You need a smart meter to get this tariff. Cheers for the info. I didn’t look too deeply into it as it’s not for me but might be useful for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 01/02/2023 at 06:54, mrmarkus1981_1 said: Looks like I've been put on this automatically. Flexible is their standard tariff. The one Dazo mentioned is called Agile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dazo said: Cheers for the info. I didn’t look too deeply into it as it’s not for me but might be useful for some. I was going to but I don’t have a smart meter. Think I’ve applied about 20 times to them for one 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, hmfc_liam06 said: I was going to but I don’t have a smart meter. Think I’ve applied about 20 times to them for one 😂 I don’t want a smart meter but used to get pestered all the time to have one installed. They gave up eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynecastle_Park Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Smithee said: They weren't collecting debt, they were changing the meter. It happened to me about 10 years ago, maybe a bit longer. I was working but struggling badly with my mental health and finances, those crooks did that to me. The prepayment metre caused a fortune as well, even though it was also collecting the debt, it seemed to just eat cash. I spent many days and nights without any power in my old flat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tynecastle_Park said: It happened to me about 10 years ago, maybe a bit longer. I was working but struggling badly with my mental health and finances, those crooks did that to me. The prepayment metre caused a fortune as well, even though it was also collecting the debt, it seemed to just eat cash. I spent many days and nights without any power in my old flat That’s sounds like hell. It was obviously a luxury for you. It’s certainly a luxury for a lot of people now. Fortunately I’ve never been in that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tynecastle_Park Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: That’s sounds like hell. It was obviously a luxury for you. It’s certainly a luxury for a lot of people now. Fortunately I’ve never been in that position. It really was a dark time for me (no pun intended). Freezing cold showers in the morning, with literally nothing else. No TV, no phone, no cooking appliances, no light in the evening. Thankfully those days are behind me, but those prepayment metres are horrific and shouldn't be allowed. It's one of the reasons I really find it hard not to respond to people who regularly blame the poor, mentally ill and disabled for the horrible situation many find themselves in. Edited February 3, 2023 by Tynecastle_Park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real Maroonblood said: I don’t want a smart meter but used to get pestered all the time to have one installed. They gave up eventually. Ironically you’ll wait ****ing ages just now if you actually wanted one fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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