andi17 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 13 hours ago, Cruyff said: Here is the reality. Hearts will never, I repeat, never, play the OF of the park in a one sided fixture, it's just never going to happen. But... We have competed with Rangers and Celtic in every game this season and we deserved more than we got in some of the games against them. We are also 10 points ahead of Motherwell in 3rd. It shows we are significantly better than the rest. We have done incredibly well to go from Championship winners to best of the rest. We're not far off the OF clubs, we just need a wee bit more quality and game management. With the money we could receive, I think we can move to the next level next season and get closer to them. There is very little to be negative about, we are in a fantastic place on and off the field. It looks like we could achieve more now than anytime in my lifetime. I say that because our future is secure. Our financial situation is getting even stronger. We have the basis of a great squad, recruitment and management team. We have also made changes to improve the Academy. This decade looks very promising for us. 👍 Brilliant post it can be done mate but it ain't gonna happen overnight and unlike the Leicester fairytale scenario we have officials up hear to make sure this will never happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Led Tasso said: People get hung up on Leicester but there are plenty of other examples, albeit some not as recently, such as Valencia and Atletico Madrid in Spain, Lille in France, Wolfsburg in Germany, AZ and Twente in the Netherlands, and so forth. Big resource gaps are the norm in football, but in most leagues a smaller club breaks through every decade or so. Which of these clubs compare favourably to Hearts? 11 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: I agree, I think celtic and rangers are better than ten years ago. Rangers are definitely better. Some Folk are performing fantastic mental gymnastics to have a go at him. Bob is in these folks heads and they can't enjoy Hearts because they want Bob to fail. It's actually turning out to be quite an amusing side effect of Hearts doing well under Bob -Leicesta won da leeg about 6 years ago so Hertz should be beating the of, Ken like say. Cracking stuff. Keep it up. It's amusing. Yes. It is highly amusing. We literally couldn't get a touch of the ball as Celtic popped it around us. Bobs fault .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull's-eye Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Leicester spent half a billion quid and pay massive wages. Thought that was worth mentioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, andi17 said: Brilliant post it can be done mate but it ain't gonna happen overnight and unlike the Leicester fairytale scenario we have officials up hear to make sure this will never happen Unlike Leicester , the of aren't going to **** up as much as spurs, Chelsea, City, arsenal, man Utd etc did either. The simply won't drop points like these teams did for a various reasons. It's a ridiculous comparison. Edited January 30, 2022 by Bazzas right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr Elwood P said: Which of these clubs compare favourably to Hearts? Yes. It is highly amusing. We literally couldn't get a touch of the ball as Celtic popped it around us. Bobs fault .... FWIW I'm not in the "Neilson do better" brigade. The gap is huge and the fact that sometimes we do in fact play them close and win seems to turn into the assumption that if we just "have a go" or "be brave" or whatever we'll take 12 points off of both the uglies every season. Robbie's OF record is pretty sound considering. I think the revenue gap between Valencia and Barça/Real is akin to the gap between Hearts and the OF. AZ is probably closer to a like-for-like comparison with Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi17 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, Bazzas right boot said: Unlike Leicester , the of aren't going to **** up as much as spurs, Chelsea, City, arsenal, man Utd etc did either. The simply won't drop points like these teams did for a various reasons. It's a ridiculous comparison. Aye ok then i think your missing my point but you carry on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Led Tasso said: FWIW I'm not in the "Neilson do better" brigade. The gap is huge and the fact that sometimes we do in fact play them close and win seems to turn into the assumption that if we just "have a go" or "be brave" or whatever we'll take 12 points off of both the uglies every season. Robbie's OF record is pretty sound considering. I think the revenue gap between Valencia and Barça/Real is akin to the gap between Hearts and the OF. AZ is probably closer to a like-for-like comparison with Hearts. We'd need to be in European football most seasons for even that comparison to be a realistic one. We aren't even there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, andi17 said: Aye ok then i think your missing my point but you carry on Your point is nonsense as is the other posters on here demanding things that are no way realistic. Basically grown men in the huff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, Bazzas right boot said: Unlike leciester, the of aren't going to **** up as much as spurs, Chelsea, City, arsenal, man Utd etc did either. The simply won't drop points like these teams did for a various reasons. It's a ridiculous comparison. There have been a few recent years, particularly during the Deila period at Celtic, where it seemed like if we'd been less of a recovering basket case, we could have given them a real run. Looking at that 2015/16 Celtic team, aside from noting have two current players from their squad (Gordon and GMS), imagine the current squad, or better yet the current squad plus another Summer Savage window, going against Ambrose, Izaguirre, Stokes, Griffiths, and Ciftci in Deila's weird lineups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: We'd need to be in European football most seasons for even that comparison to be a realistic one. We aren't even there yet. I was not comparing relative success. I was discussing baseline resources. But yes, success in Europe is undoubtedly the next stepping stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andi17 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, Bazzas right boot said: Your point is nonsense as is the other posters on here demanding things that are no way realistic. Basically grown men in the huff. Yea of course i am wow what a weirdo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Led Tasso said: FWIW I'm not in the "Neilson do better" brigade. The gap is huge and the fact that sometimes we do in fact play them close and win seems to turn into the assumption that if we just "have a go" or "be brave" or whatever we'll take 12 points off of both the uglies every season. Robbie's OF record is pretty sound considering. I think the revenue gap between Valencia and Barça/Real is akin to the gap between Hearts and the OF. AZ is probably closer to a like-for-like comparison with Hearts. Valencia, Lille and Atletico Madrid etc all have access to UEFA competition money. We have only made the Europa League group stages once. I would say the gap in Scotland is almost insurmountable. The Dutch example's probably offer the greatest hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy T Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, Bull's-eye said: Leicester spent half a billion quid and pay massive wages. Thought that was worth mentioning. Also they caught all the big guns in a massive transitional period, iirc Spurs were the team chasing them for the title. We’d need both Celtic and Rangers to be a mess and say Hibs and Aberdeen to be as average as the rest. The Leicester league win really was the aligning of the stars. Not taking anything away from such a monumental achievement but it’s unlikely to happen again for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamborich Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 40 minutes ago, Jambo in Bathgate said: No need for profanity. Your argument is now lost 😂 In what way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, Led Tasso said: I was not comparing relative success. I was discussing baseline resources. But yes, success in Europe is undoubtedly the next stepping stone. So was I. If we were in European competition and group stages year in year out and we're in about 3rd or 4th every season, then your example is the best. Feynoord winning the league recently as well. The reality is we've been shit for every season apart from 1 in the last decade. We need to get 3rd/4th consistently first, then like we agree- European football. We're not even there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 9 hours ago, davemclaren said: I agreed, second next season or he’s out. 🤔 The better the players the easier the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Independence Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 ...... as a 65yo supporter, thanks, RN/AB/FoH...... I have enjoyed every game this season and the attendances/atmosphere at Tynecastle! Not always been this way and anyone my age knows what I mean! However, we usually beat the H1b5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, jr ewing said: The better the players the easier the job. It’s all about belief, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, davemclaren said: It’s all about belief, I believe. I believe so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, davemclaren said: It’s all about belief, I believe. What happens if the celtic and rangers players believe as well! 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, jr ewing said: The better the players the easier the job. What happens if the better players of another team believe as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboj Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 The boy needs to see a barber urgently - in danger of going a bit Bobby Charlton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 57 minutes ago, Led Tasso said: FWIW I'm not in the "Neilson do better" brigade. The gap is huge and the fact that sometimes we do in fact play them close and win seems to turn into the assumption that if we just "have a go" or "be brave" or whatever we'll take 12 points off of both the uglies every season. Robbie's OF record is pretty sound considering. I think the revenue gap between Valencia and Barça/Real is akin to the gap between Hearts and the OF. AZ is probably closer to a like-for-like comparison with Hearts. Is there honestly Hearts fans in a “Neilson do better” brigade? I wanted him out after Brora but he has quite simply done a fantastic job this season, obviously Joe Savage’s role has played a major part in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Elwood P Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 37 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: So was I. If we were in European competition and group stages year in year out and we're in about 3rd or 4th every season, then your example is the best. Feynoord winning the league recently as well. The reality is we've been shit for every season apart from 1 in the last decade. We need to get 3rd/4th consistently first, then like we agree- European football. We're not even there yet. We've won the Championship twice; Scottish Cup once, finished 3rd and are on track for another 3rd plane finish just now. I'd say that's 5 good seasons out of 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: What happens if the better players of another team believe as well? But are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 57 minutes ago, andi17 said: Yea of course i am wow what a weirdo The boot chap is Hibs , he's best ignored . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, jr ewing said: But are they? The fact that one of them is taking one of our best players from us answers that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: The fact that one of them is taking one of our best players from us answers that. So they will have one come the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, jr ewing said: So they will have one come the summer. Aye, that will be thier first for while. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamborich Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: We've won the Championship twice; Scottish Cup once, finished 3rd and are on track for another 3rd plane finish just now. I'd say that's 5 good seasons out of 10? Your wasting your time trying to explain mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: We've won the Championship twice; Scottish Cup once, finished 3rd and are on track for another 3rd plane finish just now. I'd say that's 5 good seasons out of 10? You've missed the post conversation and lost the context. The post was in comparison to AZ, how they've been in about the top of the Dutch league and us challenging the of. 2 demotions/ relegations and subsequent promotions are not good seasons or a platform from which to challenge the of. Finishing 3rd/4th regularly and being in Europe would imo make the AZ comparison more fair. We're no where near that consistency in our own league never mind in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Led Tasso said: FWIW I'm not in the "Neilson do better" brigade. The gap is huge and the fact that sometimes we do in fact play them close and win seems to turn into the assumption that if we just "have a go" or "be brave" or whatever we'll take 12 points off of both the uglies every season. Robbie's OF record is pretty sound considering. I think the revenue gap between Valencia and Barça/Real is akin to the gap between Hearts and the OF. AZ is probably closer to a like-for-like comparison with Hearts. You go on about gaps. Valencia still have the money to buy top class football players. And so do AZ. If Hearts could buy the same quality as Valencia we'd be in the champions league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamborich Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said: You've missed the post conversation and lost the context. The post was in comparison to AZ, how they've been in about the top of the Dutch league and us challenging the of. 2 demotions/ relegations and subsequent promotions are not good seasons or a platform from which to challenge the of. Finishing 3rd/4th regularly and being in Europe would imo make the AZ comparison more fair. We're no where near that consistency in our own league never mind in Europe. You are delusional Leicester proved it can be done if we continue with your attitude we are fecked 13 thousand season ticket holders want to believe we can take them on the only way we can win the league is to believe, this shit about budgets and better players is wrong if you have that attitude then what's the point. There's 24 points to be won against the old firm beat them we give ourselves a chance Neilson's first half tactics against Celtic was imo wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankblack Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, jamborich said: You are delusional Leicester proved it can be done if we continue with your attitude we are fecked 13 thousand season ticket holders want to believe we can take them on the only way we can win the league is to believe, this shit about budgets and better players is wrong if you have that attitude then what's the point. There's 24 points to be won against the old firm beat them we give ourselves a chance Neilson's first half tactics against Celtic was imo wrong You are having a complete 'mare. Continuing all night to post the same fairytale nonsense is desparate while ignoring the glaring gaps in your logic that many people have clearly identified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamborich Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 7 hours ago, Bull's-eye said: Leicester spent half a billion quid and pay massive wages. Thought that was worth mentioning. Compared to Manchester United, Manchester City, liverpool and Chelsea get real Thought that was worth mentioning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamborich Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, frankblack said: You are having a complete 'mare. Continuing all night to post the same fairytale nonsense is desparate while ignoring the glaring gaps in your logic that many people have clearly identified. Lol seriously which part is fairytale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, jamborich said: Lol seriously which part is fairytale That wishful thinking posters on a football forum 'believing' will lead to winning the league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 7 hours ago, Mr Elwood P said: We've won the Championship twice; Scottish Cup once, finished 3rd and are on track for another 3rd plane finish just now. I'd say that's 5 good seasons out of 10? Freudian slip 😜? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) We are moving in the right direction to challenge, we need to win more games on the road against the dross we will face on Tuesday. It’s a shame because we’ve been telling the naysayers and happy clappers all season that the uglies are there for the taking, but we’re just not quite ready to sustain a challenge. Rangers are ten points worse off and Celtic despite spending millions have around the same points as they had under Lennon apparently. The CL money will hopefully be wasted by whoever gets it, hopefully the zombies as they have debts to pay. Edited January 31, 2022 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Bull's-eye said: Leicester spent half a billion quid and pay massive wages. Thought that was worth mentioning. Was £45m on Tielemans? And Valencia, did they not spend about £25m for Negredo not that long in the past. Aye, Hearts are very similar to these teams. Edited January 31, 2022 by ri Alban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, jamborich said: Compared to Manchester United, Manchester City, liverpool and Chelsea get real Thought that was worth mentioning It's not even the same. Leicester can afford the best. It's just the very best go to Liverpool, Man city and Real Madrid. We can't compete for the the best available who'd play in Scotland, it's not financially available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 6 hours ago, jamborich said: You are delusional Leicester proved it can be done if we continue with your attitude we are fecked 13 thousand season ticket holders want to believe we can take them on the only way we can win the league is to believe, this shit about budgets and better players is wrong if you have that attitude then what's the point. There's 24 points to be won against the old firm beat them we give ourselves a chance Neilson's first half tactics against Celtic was imo wrong Nonsense, what happens if the OF players have the "attitude" as well? Or Aberdeen, Hibs, Motherwell players for that matter. It takes a lot more than attitude. It's not a "step up" film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: We are moving in the right direction to challenge, we need to win more games on the road against the dross we will face on Tuesday. It’s a shame because we’ve been telling the naysayers and happy clappers all season that the uglies are there for the taking, but we’re just not quite ready to sustain a challenge. Rangers are ten points worse off and Celtic despite spending millions have around the same points as they had under Lennon apparently. The CL money will hopefully be wasted by whoever gets it, hopefully the zombies as they have debts to pay. Your comparing rangers to an unbeaten season, they have lost 1 game and are on for 90 plus points. Celtic had a bad start but then improved, 12 wins out of 13 games or some shite like that. This "the of are vulnerable or there for the taking" needs to be put to bed, they'll both be on about 90 points and win around 75% of their games. We've never been close to that. Many thought we'd struggle for top 6 before the season started, suddenly the of are vulnerable and if we believe we can win the league. It's beyond fantasy stuff. We take care of the games you mention, get 3rd we're on the right track. Challenging the of is a, bit away yet and that's if it every happens. Of we have 2 or 3 good seasons, depressingly our team wil be ripped apart and we'll be rebuilding again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 10 hours ago, jamborich said: Compared to Manchester United, Manchester City, liverpool and Chelsea get real Thought that was worth mentioning The gap was still far smaller than us to Celtic or Rangers. Your point about attitiude and belief. Motherwell displayed belief, dogged determination and fight against us on Saturday. Guess what? It counted for nowt. Perhaps they simply didn't believe enough, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watt-Zeefuik Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 16 hours ago, ri Alban said: You go on about gaps. Valencia still have the money to buy top class football players. And so do AZ. If Hearts could buy the same quality as Valencia we'd be in the champions league. It's about the proportion of the gap to the leaders. If Valencia somehow played in the same league as Celtic and Rangers but had the same TV and extra income as they do in La Liga, they'd be winning the league most years. To put it in silly mathematical terms, it's about the ratio. (Celtic+Rangers)/Hearts approximately equals (Barca+Real)/Valencia. If this is a bridge too far, as mentioned before, AZ are about the same size as Hearts, and Ajax are about the same size as Celtic. It's possible to win the title but no AZ fan can expect them to go toe-to-toe with Ajax every game, every time. Regardless, these mid-sized clubs winning their leagues built that squad over several years before their magical runs. We are two years into a rebuild job, the first year of which had extremely restricted crowds, restricted revenue, and the difficulty of recruiting players to play in the Championship for a season. These examples show that there's hope, but not, as some of Robbie's critics insist, if we just "show belief" and "get intae them" or "get the tactics right." This season against Celtic in the league, we have a win and two games where except for a terrible offside call and a missed penalty, we could have gotten a result. That's not bad at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 21 hours ago, Led Tasso said: There have been a few recent years, particularly during the Deila period at Celtic, where it seemed like if we'd been less of a recovering basket case, we could have given them a real run. Looking at that 2015/16 Celtic team, aside from noting have two current players from their squad (Gordon and GMS), imagine the current squad, or better yet the current squad plus another Summer Savage window, going against Ambrose, Izaguirre, Stokes, Griffiths, and Ciftci in Deila's weird lineups. Reckon you are being hard on Deila. Compared to every other Celtic manager since Billy McNeil he was given sod all to spend and very little to work with. Aberdeen couldn't even get close -17pts in 2014/15, ICT third; -15 the next season with us in third as a promoted team then after the next manager replaced him and was given money Aberdeen were -30 in 2016/17... The guy did what few Celtic managers have done and brought through several young players too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloustonHMFC Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 14 hours ago, jamborich said: Lol seriously which part is fairytale No one in Scottish football will ever do what Leicester done. A club like ours should not be looking for a one off, anomaly, season. We should be looking to build our challenge. That means consolidating our position as the 'best of the rest', having runs in Europe, investing wisely, improving our squad and our revenue. We should be working towards challenging the OF but should not be looking for a fluke, it should built on a solid base to continue it consistently and that's only going to happen with time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, CloustonHMFC said: No one in Scottish football will ever do what Leicester done. A club like ours should not be looking for a one off, anomaly, season. We should be looking to build our challenge. That means consolidating our position as the 'best of the rest', having runs in Europe, investing wisely, improving our squad and our revenue. We should be working towards challenging the OF but should not be looking for a fluke, it should built on a solid base to continue it consistently and that's only going to happen with time. Finding a way to undo the damage of the Bosman ruling is what we need. At the moment the OF merrily dismantle any team which tries to compete with them and even worse seem to have contacts at foreign clubs who are willing to get involved in this ploy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Watt-Zeefuik Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Spellczech said: Reckon you are being hard on Deila. Compared to every other Celtic manager since Billy McNeil he was given sod all to spend and very little to work with. Aberdeen couldn't even get close -17pts in 2014/15, ICT third; -15 the next season with us in third as a promoted team then after the next manager replaced him and was given money Aberdeen were -30 in 2016/17... The guy did what few Celtic managers have done and brought through several young players too... That's fair about Deila I suppose. I suppose the greater point is that 15/16 team was a significantly worse Celtic team than the present one, and one that I think our current squad could go toe-to-toe with. Obvious rejoinder to that being that Celtic didn't spend money then because they didn't need to. If we were threatening them, they would have signed a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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