Jambo-Jimbo Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 hours ago, theshed said: Petrol has went up another penny from what it was the other week. If oil is going to come down it’s about time it came down at the pump as well Yeh, in 3 months time mate. Goes up like a rocket and comes down like a feather, that's the usual way it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: Yeh, in 3 months time mate. Goes up like a rocket and comes down like a feather, that's the usual way it works. its the rip-off way, conned right left and centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 7 hours ago, JamesM48 said: 10% rise in a week. Boasting again eh, James? 😳 6 hours ago, jonesy said: The establishment snack comes at a premium, James. This chap knows a classy nibble when he sees it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Morgan said: Boasting again eh, James? 😳 This chap knows a classy nibble when he sees it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucky Thompson Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 7 hours ago, theshed said: Petrol has went up another penny from what it was the other week. If oil is going to come down it’s about time it came down at the pump as well Diesel has been going up a penny a week since the they dropped it 5p after the cut in duty. At the same time crude has dropped in price, yet they are still increasing fuel prices instead of dropping them. We are getting absolutely ripped off at the pumps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, JamesM48 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonlegions Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) Inflation.. Good one. Those that are not affected by it will always spin it ,aw well ,thats life .. Edited April 26, 2022 by maroonlegions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Harry Potter said: its the rip-off way, conned right left and centre. 31 minutes ago, Nucky Thompson said: Diesel has been going up a penny a week since the they dropped it 5p after the cut in duty. At the same time crude has dropped in price, yet they are still increasing fuel prices instead of dropping them. We are getting absolutely ripped off at the pumps It's been going on for years (decades), which is why we really need a regulator, to try and put a stop to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Spaffer briefed he was holding a crisis cabinet meeting today to show that the Tories are on it. Outcome? Zilch. Nada. Same as it ever was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Asking for "innovate and cost-free ideas" to fix the cost of living crisis. "Ah've no' got a scooby boys, ony eh youz got a plan?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: It's been going on for years (decades), which is why we really need a regulator, to try and put a stop to this. Best solution would be to stop buying it but that wont happen. some folk need cars for their work, drive to glasgow, then again could bus it. a week of no shows at the pump would soon get the prices down, but some folk cant leave the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwindonJambo Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: Best solution would be to stop buying it but that wont happen. some folk need cars for their work, drive to glasgow, then again could bus it. a week of no shows at the pump would soon get the prices down, but some folk cant leave the car. I've worked from home for over 2 years. Haven't refueled since last August. Driven just under 200 miles since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 25 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: Best solution would be to stop buying it but that wont happen. some folk need cars for their work, drive to glasgow, then again could bus it. a week of no shows at the pump would soon get the prices down, but some folk cant leave the car. That's the problem unfortunately. They've got people over a barrel (no pun intended). I don't have much sympathy on the fuel cost front, the higher the better imo. Less driving would only be good for everyone in the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Cade said: Asking for "innovate and cost-free ideas" to fix the cost of living crisis. "Ah've no' got a scooby boys, ony eh youz got a plan?" The genius plan? Reduce the frequency of your MOT to every 2 years. BOOM! Getting on with the day job 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 So, vehicles that would usually fail an MOT, be deemed unsafe to operate on the roads and get sold for scrap would instead be on the roads for an entire extra year before being found defective? Insurance companies would be loving that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Harry Potter said: Best solution would be to stop buying it but that wont happen. some folk need cars for their work, drive to glasgow, then again could bus it. a week of no shows at the pump would soon get the prices down, but some folk cant leave the car. 2 hours ago, Taffin said: That's the problem unfortunately. They've got people over a barrel (no pun intended). I don't have much sympathy on the fuel cost front, the higher the better imo. Less driving would only be good for everyone in the long term. In rural areas most folks don't have any other option but to use a car, there isn't trains or trams and there is often an infrequent bus service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: In rural areas most folks don't have any other option but to use a car, there isn't trains or trams and there is often an infrequent bus service. Then they'll need to pay for the fuel then. Hopefully it costs them a fortune in taxation in future. I'm rural and I can get two buses an hour. I don't though, you're right, I drive. If it cost me £3 a litre, I'd soon stop though, or go electric. Less driving doesn't equate to no driving though. If those who don't need to drive didn't, and those in rural areas only did it once or twice a week we'd be in a much better place imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Just saying.....I don't think unemployed young folks with tatoos and iphones are the cause of poverty. Bigger picture out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Section Q said: Just saying.....I don't think unemployed young folks with tatoos and iphones are the cause of poverty. Bigger picture out there. Pathetic isn't it. Why do we always turn on each other, instead of the real culprits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo_jim2001 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Pathetic isn't it. Why do we always turn on each other, instead of the real culprits. Divide and conquer.. government and royalty have done that for centuries 💥🧐 Edited April 27, 2022 by Jambo_jim2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Pathetic isn't it. Why do we always turn on each other, instead of the real culprits. We do that because a large chunk of the population get fed shite everyday from the mail/sun/express and the BBC and Facebook and other such nonsense. The halfwits believe it. Then its the brown people's fault or the single parents fault or the dole scroungers fault or the sweaty socks fault. Absolute mugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dazo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 hours ago, ri Alban said: Pathetic isn't it. Why do we always turn on each other, instead of the real culprits. Good to see some legendary irony there Ri. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 10 hours ago, Cade said: So, vehicles that would usually fail an MOT, be deemed unsafe to operate on the roads and get sold for scrap would instead be on the roads for an entire extra year before being found defective? Insurance companies would be loving that. **** me Cade that’s some spin/outlook on the proposal. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, Dazo said: **** me Cade that’s some spin/outlook on the proposal. 😂 It's a very practical viewpoint. The spin part is thinking that you're winning by saving £54.85. If you're able to afford a car of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 10 hours ago, Taffin said: Then they'll need to pay for the fuel then. Hopefully it costs them a fortune in taxation in future. I'm rural and I can get two buses an hour. I don't though, you're right, I drive. If it cost me £3 a litre, I'd soon stop though, or go electric. Less driving doesn't equate to no driving though. If those who don't need to drive didn't, and those in rural areas only did it once or twice a week we'd be in a much better place imo. So can we, most of the time, however the timings don't fit in with work, Mrs JJ for example, even getting the first bus doesn't get her into work until at least 20-25 minutes after her shift starts & over an hour and a half on a Sunday and that's if the buses are running as they often ger cancelled at the last minute due to weather/crash etc. As what happened here on Saturday due to a fatal crash and the road being closed for over 6 hours, buses can't get routed on the B roads, cars can though. I agree a lot of people drive who don't need to, you need only look at the school run to see that or folks getting into their car to pop around to the shop which is only a few hundred yards away. Anyway electric is probably the way to go, but then we'd need more charging points, which are few and far between out here at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 If they are thinking about playing around with the MOT's, why don't they extend the period when a new car needs an MOT, how many 3 year old cars fail an MOT let alone fail on something major and dangerous, very very few I'd think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 On 26/04/2022 at 05:05, The Mighty Thor said: It's pretty stark when you see it laid out like that. It'll not register with the mugs that swallow the daily Nazi/Express tropes or the Tory voting narcissists. Turns even if you 'get a joab' thanks to these self-serving wanks you're still up to your ears in the tam kite. There is a narrative about making work pay and that it commands a premium over living on benefits. That conversation is very difficult to have as the mud gets slung almost immediately. I would suggest though that the minimum wage ought to be set high enough that folks on it can live without constantly looking over their shoulder. The notion that we need to subsidise full-time staff with top up benefits makes very little sense to me at all - we are effectively subsidising companies and dissuading investments in productivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: If they are thinking about playing around with the MOT's, why don't they extend the period when a new car needs an MOT, how many 3 year old cars fail an MOT let alone fail on something major and dangerous, very very few I'd think. They could also link this in some way to cars that are regularly serviced in order to remove an arbitrary fixed point; car goes in, it gets checked over, 'MOT' is extended for 18 months as long as you keep getting it serviced you don't need a mindless/expensive/inconvenient separate visit. It's my experience that garages are pretty expert at giving out lists of items that need/should/could be corrected. It would stand to reason that the cars more at risk are those that are not being routinely maintained. Quite pleased to see some of this red tape being looked at TBH; we have a tendency to add on bureaucracy as a knee jerk reaction when something bad happens then never have the courage to look at it later, accept some risk and remove it. No doubt there will be a flurry of objections from the part of the motor trade who specialise in MOT's highlighting the safety risks as they set out their stall to protect their vested interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: So can we, most of the time, however the timings don't fit in with work, Mrs JJ for example, even getting the first bus doesn't get her into work until at least 20-25 minutes after her shift starts & over an hour and a half on a Sunday and that's if the buses are running as they often ger cancelled at the last minute due to weather/crash etc. As what happened here on Saturday due to a fatal crash and the road being closed for over 6 hours, buses can't get routed on the B roads, cars can though. I agree a lot of people drive who don't need to, you need only look at the school run to see that or folks getting into their car to pop around to the shop which is only a few hundred yards away. Anyway electric is probably the way to go, but then we'd need more charging points, which are few and far between out here at the moment. We need cheaper electric cars, too expensive for the average worker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Dazo said: **** me Cade that’s some spin/outlook on the proposal. 😂 MOT is, after all, a safety check and not just some random thing you do just to give garages money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: If they are thinking about playing around with the MOT's, why don't they extend the period when a new car needs an MOT, how many 3 year old cars fail an MOT let alone fail on something major and dangerous, very very few I'd think. you do realise new cars can come with problems, be a few folk who will wear out break pads in 2 years, 20000 miles average, brakes shot, some folk think an MOT is a service, beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 47 minutes ago, Cade said: MOT is, after all, a safety check and not just some random thing you do just to give garages money. That’s debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: It's a very practical viewpoint. The spin part is thinking that you're winning by saving £54.85. If you're able to afford a car of course. The spin part is all these unsafe cars that would be bombing about that weren’t on the road beforehand. 😂 Not saying this is the solution but the mot system does need an overhaul. 3-10 year old cars should not be paying for a yearly mot imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperstarSteve Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 12 hours ago, Cade said: So, vehicles that would usually fail an MOT, be deemed unsafe to operate on the roads and get sold for scrap would instead be on the roads for an entire extra year before being found defective? Insurance companies would be loving that. Correct but they done a test run on this during first year of covid. 6 months free extension and some drivers got as much as 12 months. Be interesting to know how many crashes were caused by that decision as all I’ve seen for the past two years on STV news is car crash stories daily. Granted can’t say I’d paid attention to those stories before the government made that decision and could just be the newspapers pushing more crash stories to help the governments agenda of getting cars off the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: We do that because a large chunk of the population get fed shite everyday from the mail/sun/express and the BBC and Facebook and other such nonsense. The halfwits believe it. Then its the brown people's fault or the single parents fault or the dole scroungers fault or the sweaty socks fault. Absolute mugs. One thing they forget, we spend all our money on the UK economy. The smokers spend a fortune, otherwise it would be banned completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: We do that because a large chunk of the population get fed shite everyday from the mail/sun/express and the BBC and Facebook and other such nonsense. The halfwits believe it. Then its the brown people's fault or the single parents fault or the dole scroungers fault or the sweaty socks fault. Absolute mugs. Can I ask which news outlets you get your information from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 33 minutes ago, Dazo said: That’s debatable. I'm perfectly happy to take out the debate and have my cars MOT tested every year. Better than having a debate in court of law after wiping out a family cause my car wasn't road worthy from a fault that would have been picked up at said check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Harry Potter said: We need cheaper electric cars, too expensive for the average worker. I'm average, and I have one. I mist be moving up a class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ked said: Can I ask which news outlets you get your information from? Where do you get yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Japan Jambo said: They could also link this in some way to cars that are regularly serviced in order to remove an arbitrary fixed point; car goes in, it gets checked over, 'MOT' is extended for 18 months as long as you keep getting it serviced you don't need a mindless/expensive/inconvenient separate visit. It's my experience that garages are pretty expert at giving out lists of items that need/should/could be corrected. It would stand to reason that the cars more at risk are those that are not being routinely maintained. Quite pleased to see some of this red tape being looked at TBH; we have a tendency to add on bureaucracy as a knee jerk reaction when something bad happens then never have the courage to look at it later, accept some risk and remove it. No doubt there will be a flurry of objections from the part of the motor trade who specialise in MOT's highlighting the safety risks as they set out their stall to protect their vested interests. Aye, let's extend the MOT cause you changed your plugs and oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Let's hope if a Lorry, Bus or other juggernaut that ploughs through people because of this policy of neglect, that it's the Government that brings it in, that's hit out on a walkabout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I'm average, and I have one. I mist be moving up a class. obviously earning too much lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Put the cap back on energy, get rid of the Green tax, abolish the NI rise and windfall tax these robbing *******s in the North sea. That will help better than MOTs and teachers being child minders. Put income tax up if you want to tax properly. Especially the crooks who make millions from doing very little in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Harry Potter said: obviously earning too much lol. I wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, ri Alban said: I'm perfectly happy to take out the debate and have my cars MOT tested every year. Better than having a debate in court of law after wiping out a family cause my car wasn't road worthy from a fault that would have been picked up at said check. Its easy to pick out extremes to make a point. Of course cars need to be checked but through regular servicing and biannual mots the extreme example you give isn’t really a concern. Especially for cats under 10 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Harry Potter said: you do realise new cars can come with problems, be a few folk who will wear out break pads in 2 years, 20000 miles average, brakes shot, some folk think an MOT is a service, beyond me. Isn't tyres and brakes checked as part of your service, at least ours are usually. Any faults or wearing with tyres, pads, discs we are told about and recommended to get fixed/replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Japan Jambo said: I would suggest though that the minimum wage ought to be set high enough that folks on it can live without constantly looking over their shoulder. The notion that we need to subsidise full-time staff with top up benefits makes very little sense to me at all - we are effectively subsidising companies and dissuading investments in productivity. Absolutely agree, how can making work pay when many have to still rely on benefits to survive, it just doesn't make sense to me either. Making work pay should mean just that, that you don't need to rely on benefits anymore as your wage, even full-time minimum wage is enough to live off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, ri Alban said: Aye, let's extend the MOT cause you changed your plugs and oil. absolutely not what I'm saying, nor advocating. Hell, let's just leave it the way it is and pile more and more costs on top and not question whether or not we are getting value from the process, much easier to do nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Jambo-Jimbo said: If they are thinking about playing around with the MOT's, why don't they extend the period when a new car needs an MOT, how many 3 year old cars fail an MOT let alone fail on something major and dangerous, very very few I'd think. Thanks, given me a chance to have a moan about an MOT. £1200 I'm having to shell out today on a 5 year old car. 😟😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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