GinRummy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, martoon said: So is the answer, GR. What seals it for me is the amount of players in the past who just couldn’t be arsed playing for us or were obviously not committed. Now he’s made his choice, he can **** off tbh. I think he’ll be away by Tuesday anyway but always a chance he won’t be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lithuania Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, lost in space said: It depends. Are we signing an other CB? Is Souttar going to continue to be committed to us? Will we have a better chance of retaining third? He’s committed to Rangers. End of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, TypoonJambo said: It's a no from me. If there's a **** off ya ungrateful rat option I'll take that one as well. …don’t forget @Japan Jambos ‘hang him from a lamppost by the danglies!’ 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointon Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 If Robbie plays that rat ******* he will be getting both barrels as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott herbertson Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 My answer would be don't know, until the club or the player make it more clear what has happened. eg if the player has received a pre-contract offer through his agent, and told Hearts, but Rangers haven't, and if the manager and player believe he can give his all in games against teams other than Rangers, my answer would be yes. If the player didn't inform the club about the pre-contract agreement in advance, my answer would be no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatsd Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I would rather we got Gary Locke out of retirement and play him than have Souttar playing again. Only those that are 100 percent committed to Hearts shout have the privilege of wearing the badge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gillsland jack Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Sorry folk's, not buying all this Judas/rat stuff, its really difficult to make it as a professional in the modern game, its a short career if you manage to make it at a pro club in the first place, the reality is that so many players will get lost to the pro game by the age of 21-23, on the scrap heap, dreams shattered but worst of all, treated like absolute shite by the clubs they have probably been with since the age of 12 or 14 or younger, so nope, don't give me all this loyalty tosh, if a player has a chance to control his own destiny, then he should look after himself and his family without a backward glance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1986 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 It’s a definite no for me. The biggest reasons being the reaction from the fans will have a detrimental effect on the rest of the team. It’s a distraction we don’t need at this vital stage of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VALDOS' Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Gillsland jack said: Sorry folk's, not buying all this Judas/rat stuff, its really difficult to make it as a professional in the modern game, its a short career if you manage to make it at a pro club in the first place, the reality is that so many players will get lost to the pro game by the age of 21-23, on the scrap heap, dreams shattered but worst of all, treated like absolute shite by the clubs they have probably been with since the age of 12 or 14 or younger, so nope, don't give me all this loyalty tosh, if a player has a chance to control his own destiny, then he should look after himself and his family without a backward glance. Far to sensible a post for this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Apologies if already posted but saw Joel Sked tweeted this. Souttar was actually the third best performer out of our 3 centre halves. Not saying he won't be missed but it's maybe not the blow we might have anticipated at the start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) I put no on the basis we don't have to play players in the wrong position while he sits on his arse. Ideal world we sign a decent replacement and move on, but I don't want us losing points to make a point Edited January 15, 2022 by jambopilms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCant Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Poll up now Two polls now 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, GinRummy said: What seals it for me is the amount of players in the past who just couldn’t be arsed playing for us or were obviously not committed. Now he’s made his choice, he can **** off tbh. I think he’ll be away by Tuesday anyway but always a chance he won’t be. That sort of behaviour is a team thing. I cannot see a player sandwiched between Craig Gordon and Cammy Devlin managing to get away with being like that... Many of you are playing into Rangers hands with the above votes... Edited January 15, 2022 by Spellczech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: Two polls now 😂 Like the number 26 bus 😂 my fault for not putting poll in the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Spellczech said: That sort of behaviour is a team thing. I cannot see a player sandwiched between Craig Gordon and Cammy Devlin managing to get away with being like that... Many of you are playing into Rangers hands with the above votes... I doubt the club, rangers or Souttar will pay the slightest bit of attention. When did Ann Budge pander to the fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionN Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Don’t think you can play Souttar now. Looks very bad on Neilson to play players who don’t want to be here & are leaving over players who want to play. Backed in to a corner unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 NO. Don't want him anywhere near the first team or Tynecastle for that matter. He’s made it clear where he wants to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Mister Dee said: Souttar is one of the best young defenders we’ve had since the days of Maclaren and Levein. He's good, yes. To compare him in ability to these two however, is sheer folly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Rather give Gnanduillet a run of games at RCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I doubt the club, rangers or Souttar will pay the slightest bit of attention. When did Ann Budge pander to the fans? Ann Budge isn't the one who'll be trying to negotiate a fee with Rangers. If the fans react furiously to Soapy if he is played then it either forces us to bench him and pay him, or accept pretty much any pittance Rangers offer...Support the team and ignore Souttar would be the best reaction to this. Give the club it's best chance of getting the £500k they are apparently seeking. That is what our role is. Not to behave like angry teenagers. Tynecastle is a great stadium for supporting the team but it is a terrible one if we don't do what we are meant to do. Edited January 15, 2022 by Spellczech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Costanza said: Apologies if already posted but saw Joel Sked tweeted this. Souttar was actually the third best performer out of our 3 centre halves. Not saying he won't be missed but it's maybe not the blow we might have anticipated at the start of the season. He's clearly our best defender. No point in saying otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasavallan Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Who's this Souttar character a'body is talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Spellczech said: Ann Budge isn't the one who'll be trying to negotiate a fee with Rangers. If the fans react furiously to Soapy if he is played then it either forces us to bench him and pay him, or accept pretty much any pittance Rangers offer...Support the team and ignore Souttar would be the best reaction to this. Give the club it's best chance of getting the £500k they are apparently seeking. That is what our role is. Not to behave like angry teenagers. The fans will react badly. Doesn’t really matter what’s said on here, it matters what happens in the ground. Dismissing anyone who raises their voice as an angry teenager is just shitting on anyone’s opinion except yours. Fan anger over lots of things has happened for as long as I can remember at a host of clubs. This won’t be any different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, SectionN said: Don’t think you can play Souttar now. Looks very bad on Neilson to play players who don’t want to be here & are leaving over players who want to play. Backed in to a corner unfortunately. Winka won't be going full into challenges either especially against his zombie rulers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb1874 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Mister Dee said: Souttar is one of the best young defenders we’ve had since the days of Maclaren and Levein. it’s a short career -especially with his injuries. We’ve supported and looked after him through his injuries, and developed him from a player with potential, to a full internationalist. This is how he thanks us. **** him. Judas **** Not that good...not better than Elvis, nor Webster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Slim Stylee Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I’m genuinely gutted about it. Any other club would be tinged with understanding but he can **** off now. 🙁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Can’t really answer this as my preference is to agree a settlement and let him go in the window. However, if we don’t do that whethe he plays none, any or many matches I’ll leave to the club if they think he will improve the team. My view is it will likely be too much of a distraction for everyone involved if they play him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1953 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Ann Budge isn't the one who'll be trying to negotiate a fee with Rangers. If the fans react furiously to Soapy if he is played then it either forces us to bench him and pay him, or accept pretty much any pittance Rangers offer...Support the team and ignore Souttar would be the best reaction to this. Give the club it's best chance of getting the £500k they are apparently seeking. That is what our role is. Not to behave like angry teenagers. Tynecastle is a great stadium for supporting the team but it is a terrible one if we don't do what we are meant to do. Pretty much this. The club are playing hard ball to get a decent fee and they don't need us screwing it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Everybody losing their shit here Hearts knew he would go. They know that Winning the league is totally essential for Rangers so are gonna play as hard as possible over letting him leave in Jan. Its a game and it takes time to play it out Goldson could get a nasty injury in next game and the situation changes again. no point in everyone demanding stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 If we play him against Saints and bench him in the cup game I will absolutely loose my $#!t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Hi Mr McNamara Bolt ya radge. What a ****ing ridiculous post. Edit - that I see you've been rightfully pulled up for now. Edited January 15, 2022 by tian447 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 41 minutes ago, 4marsbars said: Which makes me wonder - does it help or hinder the rest of the team if fans boo Souttar? Because, like all of us here, I want this team to succeed. Hearts are bigger than one player. Robbie has to keep Snakey away from the squad. He's no use to us now damaged goods if you like. Playing Souttar midweek and inviting all the abuse and bad feeling to affect the team would be a huge mistake from Neilson. Take him down to Auchinleck and give the last two minutes of the cup tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_A wehatethehibs Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tasavallan said: Who's this Souttar character a'body is talking about? Some SPL crock dud Rangers signed on peanuts for a backup role to play away at the fir park type grounds etc after the champions league games when the big names get rested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RENE Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) Wouldn't play till end of window if no deal done. Edited January 15, 2022 by RENE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, jambo-in-furness said: I have voted yes, he won’t get a career ending injury sitting in the stand. I understand this thinking… and TBH, if he plays or if he’s sent to train with the youths, both scenarios could be bad for sevco. If they don’t meet our demands - they’re playing roulette with their new signing. If we don’t play him (which is my option) sevco will get a very un-match fit player, whose Scotland caps could diminish. If we do play him, not only could Tynie turn poisonous (which would be bad for the team) … but, as you say, he could pick up an injury. I really don’t know why sevco would take the chance either way. They’re not helping their player. I just hope we stand firm… we still have a hand in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, A_A wehatethehibs said: Rather give Gnanduillet a run of games at RCB Great at keeping the ball out the net tbf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo-Jimbo Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 It's a no from me, he's committed his future away from us, therefore we should be building a team without him in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costanza Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: He's clearly our best defender. No point in saying otherwise. Not according to these stats this season, although I think at his best he has the most quality of the 3. Just thought interesting how this season has played out so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Been out for a long walk. Got back to told someone on the radio has said JS was signed from D Utd on a pre-contract so for some it’s a bit of pot calling the kettle black. I don’t know what was involved in that, but it shows he has previous anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly Terraces Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 One way or another, I just can't see how this guy can play for Hearts again, he's effectively a Sevco player now. Either get rid to them in this window (even if we got 300K it would free up a wage as well) or keep & don't play him until his contract with us runs out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydug Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Jumper said: Been out for a long walk. Got back to told someone on the radio has said JS was signed from D Utd on a pre-contract so for some it’s a bit of pot calling the kettle black. I don’t know what was involved in that, but it shows he has previous anyway. Hearts paid Dundee Utd a six figure sum for what was then a raw youth. Hardly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martoon Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 30 minutes ago, GinRummy said: What seals it for me is the amount of players in the past who just couldn’t be arsed playing for us or were obviously not committed. Now he’s made his choice, he can **** off tbh. I think he’ll be away by Tuesday anyway but always a chance he won’t be. I think he'll leave before the window closes. Not sure about the circumstances of how it will come to pass but being a Hearts player from now until May is untenable, imo. Nominal fee/Rangers player on loan...I think something has to be sorted. Failing that, he sits in the stand. No way should he play ahead of players who have committed to the club or those, like Cochrane and TM, who perhaps will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, luckydug said: Hearts paid Dundee Utd a six figure sum for what was then a raw youth. Hardly the same. Ok. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackLadd Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Faddy thinks the Huns will have an injury clause in pre contract. 😈 🤕😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Should our best defender play? Of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132goals1958 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Nelly Terraces said: One way or another, I just can't see how this guy can play for Hearts again, he's effectively a Sevco player now. Either get rid to them in this window (even if we got 300K it would free up a wage as well) or keep & don't play him until his contract with us runs out. Even subconsciously there is no way he can give 100% commitment What happens if we play Sevco in the Scottish Cup or the league particularly if the bigot brothers are vying for automatic entry for Champions league qualification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GYL Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 On the bench next Saturday and made to warm up in front of the Hearts fans....unused subs are still Cup Tied🤤 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) No. He'll get pelters every time he touches the ball. Rather he ****ed off to rangers this month. Edited January 15, 2022 by Sir Craig Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, GYL said: On the bench next Saturday and made to warm up in front of the Hearts fans....unused subs are still Cup Tied🤤 I feel this is all getting personal. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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