Vaccination certificates needed at Tynecastle?

[escobri]

3 minutes ago, Awbdy Oot said:

 

More truth in that meme than you probably think.

Sadly your right.

[XB52]

This thread has gone from being sad to pure bat shit mental. Our new flat earth posters have taken over and, sadly, the more easily influenced have joined them in jumping the shark. Maybe we should have a sub section of the shed, say called Qanon maybe where they would feel more at home

[Red Card Ref]

If you go on the government website, you'll see they lowered the threat level of Covid back in 2020

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

 

NOT a high consequence infectious disease. If you are unhappy with this, please contact the government to complain.

 

Also, the CDC website tells us the average winter flu is MORE dangerous than Covid 19.

 

The ONS website tells us the death rate in 2020 did not spike up. It was only the 9th highest in the last 20 years. Yes, 8 of the last 20 years have had worse death rates.

 

Please check this out if you don't believe me.

 

Also, the PCR tests are 97% inaccurate. This is proven in a court of law. Please check that out too. 

 

 

[Beni]

[frankblack]

19 minutes ago, Red Card Ref said:

If you go on the government website, you'll see they lowered the threat level of Covid back in 2020

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

 

NOT a high consequence infectious disease. If you are unhappy with this, please contact the government to complain.

 

Also, the CDC website tells us the average winter flu is MORE dangerous than Covid 19.

 

The ONS website tells us the death rate in 2020 did not spike up. It was only the 9th highest in the last 20 years. Yes, 8 of the last 20 years have had worse death rates.

 

Please check this out if you don't believe me.

 

Also, the PCR tests are 97% inaccurate. This is proven in a court of law. Please check that out too. 

 

 

 

Complete drivel conclusion shopping lifted from some batshit mental conspiracy theory blog.

 

The link you provided does not mean what you think it does.  It simply means that Covid is now better understood and death is less likely because of this and vaccines.

 

Nothing else you quoted is credible.

[Auldbenches]

3 minutes ago, frankblack said:

 

Complete drivel conclusion shopping lifted from some batshit mental conspiracy theory blog.

 

The link you provided does not mean what you think it does.  It simply means that Covid is now better understood and death is less likely because of this and vaccines.

 

Nothing else you quoted is credible.

The levels they'll go to try and discredit things are amazing.  

Covid is hoax and vaccines don't work etc.  Are sesame street not doing a covid special to try and educate these people? 

[Ray Gin]

The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

[graygo]

8 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

https://youtu.be/sWLdZFCMx8Y

 

Wish I could remember how to embed a video.

Edited September 3, 2021 by Awbdy Oot

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, XB52 said:

This thread has gone from being sad to pure bat shit mental. Our new flat earth posters have taken over and, sadly, the more easily influenced have joined them in jumping the shark. Maybe we should have a sub section of the shed, say called Qanon maybe where they would feel more at home

 

[Beni]

15 minutes ago, Awbdy Oot said:

 

Wish I could remember how to embed a video.

 

They usually embed automatically.

 

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

1 hour ago, Red Card Ref said:

If you go on the government website, you'll see they lowered the threat level of Covid back in 2020

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

 

NOT a high consequence infectious disease. If you are unhappy with this, please contact the government to complain.

 

Also, the CDC website tells us the average winter flu is MORE dangerous than Covid 19.

 

The ONS website tells us the death rate in 2020 did not spike up. It was only the 9th highest in the last 20 years. Yes, 8 of the last 20 years have had worse death rates.

 

Please check this out if you don't believe me.

 

Also, the PCR tests are 97% inaccurate. This is proven in a court of law. Please check that out too. 

 

You missed out that it's seasonal or mentioned Sweden. Nearly a clean sweep on covid nutcase bingo. Must try harder.

 

[Red Card Ref]

1 hour ago, frankblack said:

 

Complete drivel conclusion shopping lifted from some batshit mental conspiracy theory blog.

 

The link you provided does not mean what you think it does.  It simply means that Covid is now better understood and death is less likely because of this and vaccines.

 

Nothing else you quoted is credible.

No, this was written before the lockdown. Waaaaay before a vaccine was even a discussion, so you are wrong there.

 

As for the drivel - did you check the CDC website? If so, you'll have found a graph showing us diseases versus the survival rate. What had a higher survival rate between the flu and covid? Covid. Fact.

COVID-19 Survival Rates

• Age 0-19: 99.997%
• Age 20-49: 99.98%
• Age 50-69: 99.5%
• Age 70+: 94.6%

This is the covid survival rate from the CDC itself, not a conspiracy website.

 

Regarding the death rate - 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsintheukfrom1990to2020

 

Again, this is not from a nut job website, its from the ONS site. Check out the death rates from the last 20 years.

 

Is the PCR test fit for purpose?

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507937-covid-pcr-test-fail/

What did a European Court say? No it's not.

 

Any issues regarding the facts, please tell the government run websites their data is wrong. 

 

How would you feel if I told you the man who invented the mRNA technology is strongly AGAINST putting it into humans.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/mrna-inventor-says-young-adults-shouldnt-have-to-get-covid-vaccine/ar-AALnhq5

Check out his interview on YouTube. This article doesn't tell what he said.

 

Or the now ex-Vice President of Pfizer warning us against the vaccine too?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death/

 

The inventor of the PCR test spike out against using it as a tool to find covid.

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=30880

 

There a thousands more doctors and pathologists warning us, but they are shut down quickly.

I only hope you understand this information and data (data from government run websites) is making people wary of getting the vaccine, especially if you have more chance of dying from the flu!!!

[frankblack]

3 hours ago, Red Card Ref said:

No, this was written before the lockdown. Waaaaay before a vaccine was even a discussion, so you are wrong there.

 

As for the drivel - did you check the CDC website? If so, you'll have found a graph showing us diseases versus the survival rate. What had a higher survival rate between the flu and covid? Covid. Fact.

COVID-19 Survival Rates

• Age 0-19: 99.997%
• Age 20-49: 99.98%
• Age 50-69: 99.5%
• Age 70+: 94.6%

This is the covid survival rate from the CDC itself, not a conspiracy website.

 

Regarding the death rate - 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsintheukfrom1990to2020

 

Again, this is not from a nut job website, its from the ONS site. Check out the death rates from the last 20 years.

 

Is the PCR test fit for purpose?

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507937-covid-pcr-test-fail/

What did a European Court say? No it's not.

 

Any issues regarding the facts, please tell the government run websites their data is wrong. 

 

How would you feel if I told you the man who invented the mRNA technology is strongly AGAINST putting it into humans.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/mrna-inventor-says-young-adults-shouldnt-have-to-get-covid-vaccine/ar-AALnhq5

Check out his interview on YouTube. This article doesn't tell what he said.

 

Or the now ex-Vice President of Pfizer warning us against the vaccine too?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death/

 

The inventor of the PCR test spike out against using it as a tool to find covid.

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=30880

 

There a thousands more doctors and pathologists warning us, but they are shut down quickly.

I only hope you understand this information and data (data from government run websites) is making people wary of getting the vaccine, especially if you have more chance of dying from the flu!!!

 

More conclusion shopping with some truly obscure links and/or sensationalist articles from obscure sources.

 

Here is some reading for you:

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210708-true-or-false-countering-the-claims-of-covid-19-vaccine-sceptics

 

On PCR tests:

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking/covid-19-pcr-test-reliable-despite-commotion-about-ct-values

 

As for your allegations about the inventor of PCR tests (who died before the pandemic):

https://www.thejournal.ie/kary-mullis-pcr-testing-factcheck-debunk-hse-5271830-Nov2020/

 

Your desperation to prove some global conspiracy is like something from the X Files.

[Auldbenches]

1 hour ago, frankblack said:

 

More conclusion shopping with some truly obscure links and/or sensationalist articles from obscure sources.

 

Here is some reading for you:

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210708-true-or-false-countering-the-claims-of-covid-19-vaccine-sceptics

 

On PCR tests:

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking/covid-19-pcr-test-reliable-despite-commotion-about-ct-values

 

As for your allegations about the inventor of PCR tests (who died before the pandemic):

https://www.thejournal.ie/kary-mullis-pcr-testing-factcheck-debunk-hse-5271830-Nov2020/

 

Your desperation to prove some global conspiracy is like something from the X Files.

Thanks for putting the effort in to put a stop to his garbage.   I wonder if he'll read your link and reply to you?  

Over to you Mr Mulder.

[Auldbenches]

5 hours ago, Red Card Ref said:

No, this was written before the lockdown. Waaaaay before a vaccine was even a discussion, so you are wrong there.

 

As for the drivel - did you check the CDC website? If so, you'll have found a graph showing us diseases versus the survival rate. What had a higher survival rate between the flu and covid? Covid. Fact.

COVID-19 Survival Rates

• Age 0-19: 99.997%
• Age 20-49: 99.98%
• Age 50-69: 99.5%
• Age 70+: 94.6%

This is the covid survival rate from the CDC itself, not a conspiracy website.

 

Regarding the death rate - 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsintheukfrom1990to2020

 

Again, this is not from a nut job website, its from the ONS site. Check out the death rates from the last 20 years.

 

Is the PCR test fit for purpose?

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507937-covid-pcr-test-fail/

What did a European Court say? No it's not.

 

Any issues regarding the facts, please tell the government run websites their data is wrong. 

 

How would you feel if I told you the man who invented the mRNA technology is strongly AGAINST putting it into humans.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/mrna-inventor-says-young-adults-shouldnt-have-to-get-covid-vaccine/ar-AALnhq5

Check out his interview on YouTube. This article doesn't tell what he said.

 

Or the now ex-Vice President of Pfizer warning us against the vaccine too?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death/

 

The inventor of the PCR test spike out against using it as a tool to find covid.

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=30880

 

There a thousands more doctors and pathologists warning us, but they are shut down quickly.

I only hope you understand this information and data (data from government run websites) is making people wary of getting the vaccine, especially if you have more chance of dying from the flu!!!

There's a post with links saying you're talking shite.  Will you read the articles and reply to him.  If you don't, we'll take that as you conceding.

 

[Beni]

4 hours ago, Red Card Ref said:

As for the drivel - did you check the CDC website? If so, you'll have found a graph showing us diseases versus the survival rate. What had a higher survival rate between the flu and covid? Covid. Fact.

COVID-19 Survival Rates

• Age 0-19: 99.997%
• Age 20-49: 99.98%
• Age 50-69: 99.5%
• Age 70+: 94.6%

This is the covid survival rate from the CDC itself, not a conspiracy website.

 

Did you check the CDC website?

Why not just post the link?

Is it because what you posted was a work of fiction?

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/22/tweets/viral-tweet-cites-made-cdc-covid-19-survival-rates/

 

4 hours ago, Red Card Ref said:

How would you feel if I told you the man who invented the mRNA technology is strongly AGAINST putting it into humans.

 

I'd feel he's a bit hypocritical for taking the vaccine himself.

2 minutes into this video.

 

He's quoted in the article saying the risk/benefit analysis for young people being vaccinated isn't being done.

Yesterday's JCVI recommendation kinda holes that opinion below the waterline.

 

4 hours ago, Red Card Ref said:

Regarding the death rate - 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsintheukfrom1990to2020

 

Again, this is not from a nut job website, its from the ONS site. Check out the death rates from the last 20 years

 

Life expectancy has improved over the last 20 years, which is why excess deaths are used to compare death rates over time. Here's what it looks like when you don't cherry pick.

 

In 2020 the number of excess deaths, as a proportion of the population, rose by 12.1% compared with the average of the previous five years.

To put that in perspective, that's the biggest leap in any year since 1940. Bigger than during the 1951 flu epidemic. Bigger than during the Asian flu in the 1950s or the Hong Kong flu in the 1960s. In fact the only other years that come close - save for 1940 - are 1929, in which there was a global flu pandemic on top of an economic crash; 1918, year of the Spanish flu; and 1915, during the First World War. 

 

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-how-mortality-rates-in-2020-compare-with-past-decades-and-centuries-12185275

 

[XB52]

5 hours ago, Red Card Ref said:

No, this was written before the lockdown. Waaaaay before a vaccine was even a discussion, so you are wrong there.

 

As for the drivel - did you check the CDC website? If so, you'll have found a graph showing us diseases versus the survival rate. What had a higher survival rate between the flu and covid? Covid. Fact.

COVID-19 Survival Rates

• Age 0-19: 99.997%
• Age 20-49: 99.98%
• Age 50-69: 99.5%
• Age 70+: 94.6%

This is the covid survival rate from the CDC itself, not a conspiracy website.

 

Regarding the death rate - 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsintheukfrom1990to2020

 

Again, this is not from a nut job website, its from the ONS site. Check out the death rates from the last 20 years.

 

Is the PCR test fit for purpose?

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507937-covid-pcr-test-fail/

What did a European Court say? No it's not.

 

Any issues regarding the facts, please tell the government run websites their data is wrong. 

 

How would you feel if I told you the man who invented the mRNA technology is strongly AGAINST putting it into humans.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/mrna-inventor-says-young-adults-shouldnt-have-to-get-covid-vaccine/ar-AALnhq5

Check out his interview on YouTube. This article doesn't tell what he said.

 

Or the now ex-Vice President of Pfizer warning us against the vaccine too?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death/

 

The inventor of the PCR test spike out against using it as a tool to find covid.

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=30880

 

There a thousands more doctors and pathologists warning us, but they are shut down quickly.

I only hope you understand this information and data (data from government run websites) is making people wary of getting the vaccine, especially if you have more chance of dying from the flu!!!

And just to prove my point here's another one.this place is turning into fox news

[Ron Burgundy]

There is some first class trolling going on but watching the reaction of folk who are probably jumping out their skin every time a person within 50 yards coughs is fantastic.😆

 

Well played the flat earthers.  🤣

[Dennis Reynolds]

6 hours ago, Red Card Ref said:

 

Or the now ex-Vice President of Pfizer warning us against the vaccine too?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/exclusive-former-pfizer-vp-your-government-is-lying-to-you-in-a-way-that-could-lead-to-your-death/

 

 

Just to add to the other replies to your other points (is this classed as a pile on?) Dr Mike Yeadon was never Vice President of Pfizer. He was VP of a department at Pfizer. A department that was wound up and he lost his job. A department that had nothing to do with vaccines. He's a grifter who has managed to get everyone hook, line and sinker by not correcting them 👍

 

Is this classed as doing my own research? 

 

[milky_26]

9 hours ago, Red Card Ref said:

If you go on the government website, you'll see they lowered the threat level of Covid back in 2020

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

 

NOT a high consequence infectious disease. If you are unhappy with this, please contact the government to complain.

 

Also, the CDC website tells us the average winter flu is MORE dangerous than Covid 19.

 

The ONS website tells us the death rate in 2020 did not spike up. It was only the 9th highest in the last 20 years. Yes, 8 of the last 20 years have had worse death rates.

 

Please check this out if you don't believe me.

 

Also, the PCR tests are 97% inaccurate. This is proven in a court of law. Please check that out too. 

 

 

if we were playing BS bingo i would be calling house now

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 hours ago, Beni said:

 

Did you check the CDC website?

Why not just post the link?

Is it because what you posted was a work of fiction?

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/22/tweets/viral-tweet-cites-made-cdc-covid-19-survival-rates/

 

 

I'd feel he's a bit hypocritical for taking the vaccine himself.

2 minutes into this video.

 

He's quoted in the article saying the risk/benefit analysis for young people being vaccinated isn't being done.

Yesterday's JCVI recommendation kinda holes that opinion below the waterline.

 

 

Life expectancy has improved over the last 20 years, which is why excess deaths are used to compare death rates over time. Here's what it looks like when you don't cherry pick.

 

In 2020 the number of excess deaths, as a proportion of the population, rose by 12.1% compared with the average of the previous five years.

To put that in perspective, that's the biggest leap in any year since 1940. Bigger than during the 1951 flu epidemic. Bigger than during the Asian flu in the 1950s or the Hong Kong flu in the 1960s. In fact the only other years that come close - save for 1940 - are 1929, in which there was a global flu pandemic on top of an economic crash; 1918, year of the Spanish flu; and 1915, during the First World War. 

 

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/covid-19-how-mortality-rates-in-2020-compare-with-past-decades-and-centuries-12185275

 

So what’s even more suspicious is That CDC won’t actually publish survival rates for “ a variety of reasons” yet happy to scare the shit out of people regarding their possible changes of croaking it with covid ? 

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

There is some first class trolling going on but watching the reaction of folk who are probably jumping out their skin every time a person within 50 yards coughs is fantastic.😆

 

Well played the flat earthers.  🤣

Yes let the lockdown , now passport zealots get on with being shit scared . I’m getting on with my life , not obsessed and analysing the daily deaths , icu etc.  That’s not living 

[jack D and coke]

12 hours ago, Red Card Ref said:

If you go on the government website, you'll see they lowered the threat level of Covid back in 2020

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

 

NOT a high consequence infectious disease. If you are unhappy with this, please contact the government to complain.

 

Also, the CDC website tells us the average winter flu is MORE dangerous than Covid 19.

 

The ONS website tells us the death rate in 2020 did not spike up. It was only the 9th highest in the last 20 years. Yes, 8 of the last 20 years have had worse death rates.

 

Please check this out if you don't believe me.

 

Also, the PCR tests are 97% inaccurate. This is proven in a court of law. Please check that out too. 

 

 

Ah another new poster pushing the same

bolloks. 
Splendid. 

[Boab]

12 hours ago, XB52 said:

This thread has gone from being sad to pure bat shit mental. Our new flat earth posters have taken over and, sadly, the more easily influenced have joined them in jumping the shark. Maybe we should have a sub section of the shed, say called Qanon maybe where they would feel more at home

That would be a restriction. They don’t like restrictions. Keep them out in the open so we can keep an eye on them !

As I’ve already said though, there is a thread about Covid. A big, **** off one ! I thought this was about getting into Tynecastle ? 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Boab said:

That would be a restriction. They don’t like restrictions. Keep them out in the open so we can keep an eye on them !

As I’ve already said though, there is a thread about Covid. A big, **** off one ! I thought this was about getting into Tynecastle ? 

Or maybe just silence them from having a view point ? That worked well

in Germany in the 1930s ! 

[Boab]

9 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Or maybe just silence them from having a view point ? That worked well

in Germany in the 1930s ! 

See, XB !

[JudyJudyJudy]

8 minutes ago, Boab said:

See, XB !

I tend not to reply to him he’s one of the chief pitch forkers 👍😂

[John Findlay]

Downloaded my passport on the way to work this morning. A happy chappy me.

[Red Card Ref]

The way people are debating here issue is worrying. I have linked official stats from government websites and it's casually dismissed as rubbish anti vaxxer propaganda.

I'm not anti vax. I've had the usual vaccinations myself, so has my child. But the Covid jab? Not for me. It doesn't add up. Using the official government data, not mainstream media, you see no spike in death rates and the threat level is the same as the average winter flu. I can't see how this can be argued.

 

On top of that, many doctors, pathologists, scientists, MP's and even presidents of other countries have stood against this. Isn't that enough to make you stop and think? Or are they all quacks? 

 

I'm not gonna check this thread anymore, I know what's coming and can't be bothered with the childish posts. Believe it or not I've spent hundreds of hours researching this. I'm very confident I would win a debate with anyone on the subject face to face. Through JKB tho? Let's be honest, nobody is changing anyone's mind. I respect everybody's decision whether they do or don't get the jab. Hope others are the same.

[graygo]

6 minutes ago, Red Card Ref said:

The way people are debating here issue is worrying. I have linked official stats from government websites and it's casually dismissed as rubbish anti vaxxer propaganda.

I'm not anti vax. I've had the usual vaccinations myself, so has my child. But the Covid jab? Not for me. It doesn't add up. Using the official government data, not mainstream media, you see no spike in death rates and the threat level is the same as the average winter flu. I can't see how this can be argued.

 

On top of that, many doctors, pathologists, scientists, MP's and even presidents of other countries have stood against this. Isn't that enough to make you stop and think? Or are they all quacks? 

 

I'm not gonna check this thread anymore, I know what's coming and can't be bothered with the childish posts. Believe it or not I've spent hundreds of hours researching this. I'm very confident I would win a debate with anyone on the subject face to face. Through JKB tho? Let's be honest, nobody is changing anyone's mind. I respect everybody's decision whether they do or don't get the jab. Hope others are the same.

 

Why do people with the same views as yourself automatically assume that nobody else has done any research on this and come to their own conclusions? Are the ones against vaccination the only critical thinkers?

[milky_26]

1 minute ago, Awbdy Oot said:

 

Why do people with the same views as yourself automatically assume that nobody else has done any research on this and come to their own conclusions? Are the ones against vaccination the only critical thinkers?

then they say they wont debate it as others have made up their mind and wont change it. yet they refuse to look at the other side and will never change their minds about their views

[Beni]

14 minutes ago, Red Card Ref said:

The way people are debating here issue is worrying. I have linked official stats from government websites and it's casually dismissed as rubbish anti vaxxer propaganda.

I'm not anti vax. I've had the usual vaccinations myself, so has my child. But the Covid jab? Not for me. It doesn't add up. Using the official government data, not mainstream media, you see no spike in death rates and the threat level is the same as the average winter flu. I can't see how this can be argued.

 

On top of that, many doctors, pathologists, scientists, MP's and even presidents of other countries have stood against this. Isn't that enough to make you stop and think? Or are they all quacks? 

 

I'm not gonna check this thread anymore, I know what's coming and can't be bothered with the childish posts. Believe it or not I've spent hundreds of hours researching this. I'm very confident I would win a debate with anyone on the subject face to face. Through JKB tho? Let's be honest, nobody is changing anyone's mind. I respect everybody's decision whether they do or don't get the jab. Hope others are the same.

 

Why not counter the specific points that have been made in reply you your posts?

Or just like all the others when your claims are examined in detail are you just going to shout "DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH" and run away?

[Jambo-Jimbo]

11 minutes ago, Awbdy Oot said:

 

Why do people with the same views as yourself automatically assume that nobody else has done any research on this and come to their own conclusions? Are the ones against vaccination the only critical thinkers?

 

Because only they know the truth, everybody else are just brainwashed sheep or seagulls or whatever else it is this week.

[luckydug]

19 hours ago, joondalupjambo said:

19th / 20th July. Boris announces vaccine passports may be needed for night club entry and other things like football games.

 

27th July.  Nicola will you do the same please?

 

28th July. SNP we are nae doing it mate.

 

1st August. Nicola I have got myself into yet another jam and said about these passport thingy's please give me a hand and help me save face?

 

2nd August Up your's Bojo. Love Nicola xxx

 

3rd August.  Aw come on Nic love.  If you say you will do this for me, maybe say that you will do them by October, and take all the flak then we will give you loads more dosh for your kitty.

 

4th August.  How much?  

 

5th August Oodles and oodles.

 

6th August.  Leave it with me Bojo.

 

1st September.  Dear Scotland we are going to have vaccine passports for night club entry and large events.

 

2nd September.  Boris do you need our bank sort code and account details?

 

 

It's amazing how circumstances change. 

We should demand that our leaders stick rigidly to statements and plans no matter how much a situation has evolved. 

That would be the way to go 😂

[Taffin]

14 minutes ago, luckydug said:

It's amazing how circumstances change. 

We should demand that our leaders stick rigidly to statements and plans no matter how much a situation has evolved. 

That would be the way to go 😂

 

Out of interest what evolved to be different over that timeline?

 

I don't keep up with the state of play in Scotland anymore.

[luckydug]

Anyone else having problems printing their Covid certificate. 

Downloaded no bother but won't print just a blank sheet of paper coming out. 

Printer is working for other things 🤔

[milky_26]

1 minute ago, luckydug said:

Anyone else having problems printing their Covid certificate. 

Downloaded no bother but won't print just a blank sheet of paper coming out. 

Printer is working for other things 🤔

if it is a pdf maybe try taking a snapshot of it and pasting into a word doc then try printing it.

[Gizmo]

23 hours ago, Auldbenches said:

Didn't realise you were a teacher.  Cushy number if you can do that and post on here all day.  Is it half day on a Friday? 

 

Perhaps the Janitorial services are quiet on a Friday? 

 

2 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

Ah another new poster pushing the same

bolloks. 
Splendid. 

 

'new'. Perhaps it's time the mods cleaned up all these 'alt' accounts?

[kila]

This thread is proper mental

 

Either some clever trolling or some incredibly lost minds. The irony will be if they end up in hospital as the autumn cases take more of a toll on the unvaccinated adults because there'll (hopefully) be no lockdown, though I'm sure some would still deny it even during their final breath.

 

If the vaccine is doing its thing, and the majority have taken it so we can return to normal, then a growing number of unvaccinated deaths as we head towards winter would be deemed acceptable. NHS bed numbers/resources will ultimately dictate if some restrictions are re-introduced though I doubt there'll be a lockdown if the vaccinated are coping.

 

Edited September 4, 2021 by kila

[Ray Gin]

16 hours ago, Red Card Ref said:

 

Also, the CDC website tells us the average winter flu is MORE dangerous than Covid 19.

 

The ONS website tells us the death rate in 2020 did not spike up. It was only the 9th highest in the last 20 years. Yes, 8 of the last 20 years have had worse death rates.

 

 

 

 

It's almost as if the country was locked down or something to keep the numbers down. Weird.

[Boab]

5 minutes ago, kila said:

This thread is proper mental

 

Either some clever trolling or some incredibly lost minds. The irony will be if they end up in hospital as the autumn cases take more of a toll on the unvaccinated adults because there'll (hopefully) be no lockdown, though I'm sure some would still deny it even during their final breath.

 

If the vaccine is doing its thing, and the majority have taken it so we can return to normal, then a growing number of unvaccinated deaths as we head towards winter would be deemed acceptable. NHS bed numbers/resources will ultimately dictate if some restrictions are re-introduced though I doubt there'll be a lockdown if the vaccinated are coping.

 

You would hope some of it was trolling but you’re never too sure.

The best one I heard from last year was the Rabbi who said C19 was a punishment from god for homosexuality ! 
He then got it, and died !

I had to sit down when I heard that one or I would have done myself an injury !

 

[Unknown user]

3 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Or maybe just silence them from having a view point ? That worked well

in Germany in the 1930s ! 

House!

[Ray Gin]

1 minute ago, Smithee said:

House!

 

[redjambo]

3 hours ago, Red Card Ref said:

The way people are debating here issue is worrying. I have linked official stats from government websites and it's casually dismissed as rubbish anti vaxxer propaganda.

I'm not anti vax. I've had the usual vaccinations myself, so has my child. But the Covid jab? Not for me. It doesn't add up. Using the official government data, not mainstream media, you see no spike in death rates and the threat level is the same as the average winter flu. I can't see how this can be argued.

 

On top of that, many doctors, pathologists, scientists, MP's and even presidents of other countries have stood against this. Isn't that enough to make you stop and think? Or are they all quacks? 

 

I'm not gonna check this thread anymore, I know what's coming and can't be bothered with the childish posts. Believe it or not I've spent hundreds of hours researching this. I'm very confident I would win a debate with anyone on the subject face to face. Through JKB tho? Let's be honest, nobody is changing anyone's mind. I respect everybody's decision whether they do or don't get the jab. Hope others are the same.

 

[frankblack]

3 hours ago, Red Card Ref said:

The way people are debating here issue is worrying. I have linked official stats from government websites and it's casually dismissed as rubbish anti vaxxer propaganda.

I'm not anti vax. I've had the usual vaccinations myself, so has my child. But the Covid jab? Not for me. It doesn't add up. Using the official government data, not mainstream media, you see no spike in death rates and the threat level is the same as the average winter flu. I can't see how this can be argued.

 

On top of that, many doctors, pathologists, scientists, MP's and even presidents of other countries have stood against this. Isn't that enough to make you stop and think? Or are they all quacks? 

 

I'm not gonna check this thread anymore, I know what's coming and can't be bothered with the childish posts. Believe it or not I've spent hundreds of hours researching this. I'm very confident I would win a debate with anyone on the subject face to face. Through JKB tho? Let's be honest, nobody is changing anyone's mind. I respect everybody's decision whether they do or don't get the jab. Hope others are the same.

 

Still waiting for you to answer any of the responses that prove you are spreading complete crap.

[The Real Maroonblood]

8 minutes ago, redjambo said:

 

[joondalupjambo]

Anyone have trouble logging into the system to download the vaccine certificate.  I have not kept any letters and used the system only to re-schedule an appointment, my wife did the same.

 

Went to the download and had to get my user name, got that by selecting the recover user name option then no password so used the forgotten your password link and the whole thing just went into a long hold then got message saying either never registered, locked out on attempts and so on.  I obviously must have registered to re-schedule my appointment and only had the one attempt at the forgotten password.  I wonder if it is because I have had to use both links, recover name and forgotten password in the one session?

[The Mighty Thor]

This is destined for the JKB classics. 

 

It's like a release for the boys that have had their arses handed to them for 18 months on the Coronavirus thread. 

 

Sterling work by Beni earlier, fact checking the living daylights out of what was clearly a pile of utter shite. 

[joondalupjambo]

3 hours ago, luckydug said:

It's amazing how circumstances change. 

We should demand that our leaders stick rigidly to statements and plans no matter how much a situation has evolved. 

That would be the way to go 😂

😀

 

My post was just me racking my brains, and being a bit tongue in cheek on why the big u turn by the SG in such a short space of time.  I cannot work it out by the stats because although we are on the up in Scotland in terms of cases we are nowhere near where we have been in the past. 

 

I have to think that it is either a deal has been struck in the background to get both Governments onto the same page, and that can be sweetened by cash handouts or some other kind of political favours or the SG have had a big re-think and now believe in passports.  The latter is way too meek for me and tend to think that the SG may be thinking about playing a longer political game here.  

 

They could be thinking we might need more Furlough cash over the winter if things go really t$ts up and so better keep Boris sweet and/or they are going down this route to show some in the EU that we are happy to align with their thinking on the passports.  Whatever it is, the strong believe that passports are the answer for the SG is just not sitting right.  As I say some play is afoot.

 

As for getting pollies sticking to their word or original statements, must chance of that happening as getting a chocolate fireguard to work 😀

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Smithee said:

House!